Animation Appreciation Thread #15
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:27
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:30
Reasons not to kill yourself in 2013:
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:32
>looking forward to Free
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:33
>>3
>not looking forward to Kigami water FX
do you even sakuga?
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Anonymous 2013-05-15 11:35
>>3
Take that kind of attitude to /a/.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:36
>>4
Kigami will be too busy with real anime like Chuu22 and KnK; he has too much dignity to work on Free.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:36
>Mitsuo Iso might work
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 11:59
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:10
Confirmed Trigger team:
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:16
Official KLK "Imaishi Bros" attendance record; fill it as the show progresses:
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:17
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:18
>>11
Why does he still have the hobo beard.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:24
>>9
I'm quite sure Osamu Kobayashi will show up
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 12:39
Trigger follows Kobayashi on twitter.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 13:18
>>9
Confirmed? From where?
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 13:24
>>9
Chikaoka Sunao is the only animator Ordet has.
Don't take him away from Yamakan.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 13:57
>>15
Sushio confirmed the LWA staff on NewType.
And Shota Iwasaki confirmed that he is working on it on Twitter.
>>16
Ordet used Mai Yoneyama, Megumi Kouno and Yusuke Yoshigaki for BRS TV, it's only fair.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 13:57
What was the staff listing for the Project X OP?
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:21
meguùmi kouno at trigger ????????
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:28
>>19
She wants to be the next Hironori Tanaka.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:30
Kouno did KA for the Trigger-episodes of Idolmaster, SAO and VividRed... doesn't mean much considering she was a regular in both IMAS and VR.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:33
Kouno-chan is part of the A-1 clique with goripon. They should show up in KLK unless they're very busy with the idolmaster movie.
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Anonymous 2013-05-15 14:37
Kouno-chan is my waifu
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:39
Tanaka>Kouno
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:40
Arasan>Kouno
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 14:42
Tanaka's best works > Kouno's best works
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 15:25
Arasan (classical period) > Current Arasan (post-classical period) > Tanaka's best works > Early Developed Arasan (prot-classical period) > Kouno's best works > Current Kouno > Ohira's best works > Current Tanaka > Early Arasan (pre-proto-classical period)
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 15:33
I have feeling we gonna see Tanaka in Kill-La-Kill since he's everywhere, also he already worked in Gurren 2nd movie
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 15:37
>>28
He did? Which scene?
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 15:44
>>29
The bit when the Anti-Spiral rips apart the TTGL.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 17:27
Tanaka was also in Yoshinari's episode of P&S.
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:17
What is Ahoboy up to lately?
https://twitter.com/aho_boy
wasn't he the guy who hired all the young animators back then?
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:24
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:24
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:26
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:26
wind sakuga MAD?
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:40
>>32
He directed Yuyushiki #3
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 19:43
>>32
Bringing young talent to Yuyushiki right now. He directed 3 (with desuran as the AD, great episode) and will direct 7 next with (majiro AD) and 9 as well. Lots of youngsters in the show.
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Anonymous 2013-05-15 19:44
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 22:37
>>33
http://atpaint.jp/tereska/src/1332355211757.gif
I think this is Kenichi Kutsuna in Ao no Exorcist #17
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Anonymous
2013-05-15 22:49
>©TRIGGER・中島かずき
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 0:29
BahiJD: I'm very happy working on the current animation project. Full artistic freedom.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 0:31
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 0:35
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 5:49
Yuzuru Tachikawa finished Shingeki no Kyojin ep 7 a few moments ago.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 5:51
>>43
Nice digital work and coloring. I wonder how profitable is it for studios to work on video game cutscenes/openings.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 6:04
>>41
wat
so only Trigger and Aniplex are funding?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 6:32
>>42
>Space Dandy has full artistic freedom.
Oh man, is this going to be some kind of Ohira, Hisashi Mori type sakuga madness?
Also I think it depends on the episode director and the animation supervisor.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 6:39
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 6:51
>>49
Looks like there's going to be another sakuga panel this Friday, hopefully it gets uploaded.
https://plus.google.com/photos/115837430604346486194/albums/5876632320237339889
Nice screencap of Tanaka's Ookami-san episode
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 6:57
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 7:08
Photo Yuasa today.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 7:33
>>52
Bracing for disappointment
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 7:44
I wonder if KLK's lack of production committee is what Kameda was so excited about a few months ago regarding Trigger changing things for animators everywhere.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 7:58
Looks like Trigger is very confident regarding their show's success to not have it being funded by a huge production commitee. That'd also be their end x)...
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:02
Hi people.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:11
>>56
Maybe by looking in details to lots of episodes, and being aware of who worked on that episode exaclty in order to try to define his/her animation style?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:12
>>57
I mean by "being aware of who worked on that episode exaclty" to look to the animation staff on ANN for example.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:17
>>55
To be fair, Aniplex is a huge production committee; most of the money for Aniplex productions comes from Aniplex. The lack of "production committee" just means that the concept came from Imaishi himself rather than, just to name an example, suits.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:35
>>43
Storyboard, Unit director: Takuya Nonaka
Assistant director: Yuichi Itou
Animation director: Atsushi Osagawara
Key Animation: Nozomu Abe, Atsushi Ikariya, Ryouma Ebata, Mitsuru Obunai, Go Kimura, Masayuki Kunihiro, Masayuki Kouda (lol wat), Tomonori Sudou, Takayuki Mogi, Takuya Nonaka, Yuichi Itou, Atsushi Osagawara, Tetsuya Takeuchi, etc
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:41
>>60
That's a pretty big KA list for something so short and standard.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:44
>>55
when their project is funded by themselves, the who staff will get paid double the usual rates.
Also they will have more time to animate.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:46
>>43
>>60
No wonder why it looks so damn good
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:57
>>58
Ann , wikipedia etc
yep
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 8:58
>>56
you just need a trained eye.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 9:02
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 9:18
>>66
Taketani is realism and Okiura folds.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 9:19
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 9:55
>>43
This reminds me of an OP for a game I used to play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV2LtbRgJ64
Not really impressive given the people who worked on it, but it still has some good bits. I'm guessing Okiura did the smile at the end.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 10:02
>>66
Oh wow, he's the guy from Wasurenagumo. Neat.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 10:02
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 10:22
http://imgur.com/a/KClTE
More Tanaka. I hope he gets to be chief AD of a scuba/swimming girls anime.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 10:46
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 10:57
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 11:01
>>66
The Bunny Drop cuts aren't impressive, but the Wasurenagumo and Robotics;Notes cuts certainly are. Guess he's improving.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 11:08
>>71
The kick, most likely.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 11:29
>>60
>Assistant director: Yuichi Itou
Looks like he's becoming a director.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 11:36
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 12:59
Who gives a shit?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 13:01
>>53
You shouldn't expect anything from it to begin with. Yuasa is just doing storyboard for a random episode of a random service anime.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 13:43
It's over, Yuasa is finished
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 15:14
Seriously, what were you expecting from a show like Photo Porno? Although a great director is storybording it, I wasn't expecting much...
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 15:35
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 15:55
Please, could someone say to me how to identify a 3D/CGi animation?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:00
>>84
Just watch more cartoons and you'll be able to tell in due time?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:03
>>84
It looks like a video game.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:03
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:08
>>85
I'm watching a lot, but since this parts are not mentionned anywhere, I couldn't identify them. Thanks for your answer.
Also, how to spot a director's touch in an episode? Animators' works are pretty easy to see, but animators'...
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:10
>>84
The way it moves is one way, it's different from hand-drawn animation. Even CG animation done to move like hand drawn can be spotted if you pay enough attention.
The other big difference is that with CG the visuals look very consistent going from frame to frame (since of course they are 3D models that are not manually redrawn at every frame), while it's very rare for hand-drawn stuff to reach that level of perfection.
Ugly texture/line work also makes CG stand out from hand-drawn stuff.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:14
>>86
Actually, CG stuff in anime doesn't look like a video game at all. The 3D stuff in anime tries to blend with the hand drawn, using similar animation and a low framerate to emulate the limited animation.
If you took some 3D animation out of a video game and put it into an anime without any kind of tweak it would stand out like a sore thumb.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:20
>>89
Thanks a lot man! looking forward to more precisions as well.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:32
>>87
What is happening to Yuasa?
He must be out of money, he is probably just working on this to pay the bills.
Indie guys have a tough time in anime industry.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:35
>>92
He gathered much more than expectied throug his Kikickstarter campaign. I wodner how he could be out of money...
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:42
>>92
He is just helping out a friend; that's how the anime industry works.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:43
>>93
The project is owned by IG.
I don't think he'd get much money from it, probably not more than being an episode director on a TV series.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:44
>>92
Uh, Yokoyama showed up in pretty much everything Yuasa's ever directed so it just makes sense the opposite would happen in his directorial debut.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:46
>>92
I don't think it has anything to do with money. I think Akitoshi Yokoyama being the series director is the only reason why Yuasa has worked on this episode.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:50
>>97
>>96
This. The anime industry, esp among the senior staff members is a close knit world. Lending one another favours is a common occurrence.
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 16:56
Some generic fanservice shots from the end of the PhotoKano episode:
http://i.imgur.com/a9KCS91.jpg
I wonder if Yuasa had any hand in these?
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 20:07
Hataraku Maou-sama! OP - Naoto Hosoda??? http://twitpic.com/cr25in
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Anonymous
2013-05-16 20:20
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:25
>>101
Bahi JD was tweeting about the advantages and disatvantages of a detailed storyboard regarding the key-animations process.
I think the tweets are gone but it was interesting.
Anyway I thought it would be interesting if we would talk about this.
I always thought that detailed storyboards were awesome, so I really can't find the disatvantages of it.
It must be nice for a key-animator to work with Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon.
Imagine all you have to do is just animating, you don't have to be bothered with anything else, just draw and get done with your job.
On detailed storyboards your layout and a few of your keys are basically almost ready.
Keys and even layout are usually done during storyboard by Miyazaki, Kon or Hosoda so I personally like that. Rough storyboards are full of pressure and need a lot more responsibility, I don't think that's the animators job, there is a reason why they are called animator and not director or storyboard artist.
Their job is to make the drawings move, not to think about camera or cinematography and all these stuff that has to be done by the director.
I don't understand how Bahi could think that detailed storyboards would have disatvantages too. But I'm not a professional so reply back if you think I'm wrong
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:41
>>102
Imagine all you have to do is just animating, you don't have to be bothered with anything else, just draw and get done with your job.
Hideaki Anno disagrees with you.
http://i.imgur.com/Kis6nIP.jpg
Now I'm getting an idea why Anno's storyboards are sometimes so shitty and rough.
Maybe he wants to give more room for the animators to improve or just wants them to come up with some ideas.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:47
>>102
Maybe Anno has more trust in his animators than Miyazaki, Hosoda or Kon.
The more time you spend on your storyboards, the more you are worried that your animators would fuck it up. So you draw as much as possible just in case nothing goes wrong.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:49
>>104
That's not always the case.
Some storyboard artists just enjoy drawing detailed boards.
Storyboard artists that have an key-animation background usually draw very detailed.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:53
>>103
Anno is a lazy shit.
Detailed storyboards are the best!
And you can sell them, why would anyone buy a storyboard that looks like fucking junk?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:55
>>106
I would buy all kinds of storyboards, rough or nor. To check out the difference between storyboard and the final layout.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:57
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 4:59
>>108
>>106
GTFO
I was just trying to start a nice discussion about storyboards and you guys already start shitposting.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:00
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:09
>>110
It needs guts to draw such rough storyboards.
I respect him for trusting his animators so much.
Chances are high to mess up everything on this if you are not a good animator.
That's Gainax school.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:12
Directors trust in his team.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:18
>>112
Anno and Imaishi are rebels and what to help the future generation.
Miyazaki and Ghibli are probably demanding and strenuous.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:18
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:20
>>113
I'm sorry for the english. I use translator machine for help.
I think Miyazaki is very strenuous, they don't want to count on young talents because it is a big risk.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:22
>>114
KyoAni doesn't trust their animator.
That's why their animation doesn't have soul.
http://i.imgur.com/xlySdZH.jpg
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:22
118
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:25
>>117
Both of them?
Anno -> Japanese system
KyoAni -> wants to be more like Disney
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:26
http://imgur.com/C4AK9vb,8OZTsB9,5Z8UIu1#0
Okiura's storyboards are very detailed. A detailed storyboard probably helps to give the animators a good idea of how the director expects the animation to look like, useful for shows that are supposed to be visually consistent.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:30
>>119
On Okiura's film I can understand why the boards are so detailed.
It's obvious that not all animators are on the same level as Okiura so he needs to guide them. This is not about trust anymore, this is about helping them.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:30
>>110
That's so shit.
>>103
Is that Hideaki Anno talking or the role he had in that film though? Because that's contradictory to how Anno is described in other sources, which is a control freak, even to the point of personally correcting the drawings he doesn't like just like Miyazaki.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:30
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:32
>>122
Kon should be credited as the layout artist responsible for all shots.
Seriously does this storyboard need any layouts at all?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:32
>>120
Oh the double standards!
125
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:37
Paranoia Agent's animated storyboard
http://youtu.be/25BwhTSKjO8
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:38
Koji Morimoto's storyboards are also very detailed
http://i.imgur.com/ZVGjnwZ.jpg
but Bahi JD mentioned that he had lots of creative freedom working with him.
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/334814927011332096
I think it mainly depends on the director and not on the storyboard.
Detailed storyboards are helpful but they don't block the animators creativity or improvement.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:39
>>125
thanks for sharing.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:43
>>125
these look like final layouts.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 5:49
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 7:33
>>121
That's Anno playing Anno.
He has mentioned it many time that animators suck these days.
That they are all social retards with anxiety issues that they need to go out and understand more than just drawing.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 7:34
https://twitter.com/G1_BARI/status/254586237032210433
Obari considers the storyboard the blueprint of what will appear on the screen. So he draws it detailed enough that in the worst case scenario the storyboard panel can be used as a rough layout for the animator. He also likes to add instructions on how the shadows and shading should be drawn for that particular scene. He also mentions that when working with more talented animators, he can can get away with a simpler board (as they are talented enough to do their own layouts and so forth)
http://vanishingtrooper.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/kanada-genga-vs-obari-stroyboard.jpg
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 8:37
KyoAni confirmed for shit.
133
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 8:42
kyani is bad , i told you
134
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Anonymous 2013-05-17 9:00
You'd think that anyone who wants to troll about KyoAni would do it somewhere more appropiate than in an animation thread.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:23
>>134
How can you defend KyoAni when they say shit like this:
http://i.imgur.com/Pznhl0Z.jpg
Anyone that wants animation to be more like a TV Drama deserves to be mocked.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:34
You can mock them all you want, their animation is still some of the best you see on TV these days.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:37
>>135
Anyone that wants animation to be more like a TV Drama deserves to be mocked
He was making a comparison between animation and live-action.
He didn't say that he wanted animation to be like TV Drama.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:38
>>136
They died with Chuu2 and Tamako, Anon. After Free is completely underwhelming and their Fall show is revealed to be Chuu22, we can bury them for good.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:41
>>135
Except he's not saying that. If you're too retarded to comprehend simple sentences then it's your problem.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 9:59
>>139
Anyone implying that doing animation as if the animator was actor and cameraman is a bad thing isn't a real sakugabro.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:02
>>138
With the direction they're headed, the management has probably realized that there is little reason to spend so much effort on a TV series.
I'll just sit here, rewatching Nichijou and Hyouka.
;_;
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:12
>>141
So they've decided to move away from adaptations and only handle self-produced projects because they thought there's little reason to spend much effort on TV anime?
Does that make sense in your brain?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:18
>>138
How did they die? I hope you're not talking about the content of their series, because that has nothing to do with what we're discussing here.
Chuu2 looked pretty good, Tamako looked weak compared to their other recent series but still above average for TV anime.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:18
Western animated film
145
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:21
>>144
Pretty sure deviating from the storyboard is something that rarely happens, unless you have a very loose one that mainly details the actions.
146
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:29
>>143
No, Chuu2 was ugly as hell. And it had the worst color design ever.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:31
>>146
That's a load of shit, it looked fine.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:36
>>146
I wouldn't say ugly, but it has that digital look reminiscent of Fate/Zero and KnK that I'm not really fond of.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:40
>>146
Chuu2Koi was pretty good looking and it had a bunch of amazing cuts. The effects during the delusions were a bit overdone, but it was part of the silliness of those scenes.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:46
Speaking of digital animation, why haven't other people emulated Kou Yoshinari's post-processing style? It's nice to see people trying different visuals using digital animation, the technology should be taken advantage of.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 10:58
>>150
Too tedious maybe? Some people probably just want to draw/animate and not bother with that or they aren't skilled enough.
There were a few frames in MJP's first episode that pretty much do the reverse. One of the mecha zips by close to the camera and if you pause right there, you can see what seems to be a smear probably done in PS or AE. I've never touched the latter though so I'm not sure.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 11:00
>>150
Example of Kou Yoshinari's post-processing style?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 11:03
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 11:04
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 11:09
>>150
>>152
The recent Nanoha movie has a bunch of smoke and explosions that look really similar to Aninari's style. I thought it was funny when I watched it because if it's him it's got to be uncredited work, but if that's not the case then his influence on other Seven Arcs people is really obvious. It's more noticeable in motion, but compare
http://snag.gy/L15Bg.jpg to things like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3uvuffWLDU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWddLXEM88
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 11:14
157
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 12:50
>>143
Chuu2, Tamako, and the Free PV are all a regression towards early digital composition and color design, with a garishly bright palette. It's pretty astonishing how suddenly KyoAni seemingly lost their artistic pride after reaching the height of digital work in Hyouka.
158
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:02
>>157
You're right, we need more Madhouse shows with a brown color filter over everything. Death to lively palettes.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:04
Hi people! I'm the guy who was asking about how to spot a CG animation in javascript:quote(84,"post1");.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:07
>>158
Ace no Diamond is coming.
Idon't know why but I'm also expecting Madhouse to be animating Sidonia
...
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:19
i was imagining IG doing sidonia
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:20
>>158
Heh, Madhouse's Hunter X Hunter is one of the brightest shows around.
But you can be colorful without being garish. For recent examples, see Little Witch Academia and Jinsei Best Ten.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:31
>>158
Go fuck yourself.
Photo Kano has the best color this season.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:41
Hironori Tanaka worked in Toaru Kagaku no Railgun S #6
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 13:52
>>164
A whole 3 seconds of Tanaka.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 14:00
Hironori Tanaka - Toaru Kagaku no Railgun S #6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fngfx3X7U30
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 14:53
pretty boring
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:52
>>166
I agree with
>>167
this whole scene was all about pans and zooms. The character was just standing there with no impact at all. All the work was done by the compositors.
The sparks and electricity FX didn't impress me.
reminded me to Kameda's FMA scene wich had a lot more impact and motion.
http://youtu.be/9eNRZkgDV9E?t=5m49s
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:53
Why are all the crazy animators going low level lately?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:55
too many in-betweens here.
http://youtu.be/9i_pnvq7RbM
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:57
>>169
They've already built enough reputation to raise the pay.
Now it's time to make money.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:59
>>169
It's the animator crisis.
I think Tanaka and Kameda need some rest or distance for a few months.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 15:59
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 16:01
>>171
Based Yutapon gettin all the money and still delivering good quality shit.
Where is based Tanaka? I miss him.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 16:17
>>170
But it's soooooo smooth
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 16:20
Don't worry, Kameda will do some really badass cuts for Kill la Kill.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 16:21
Steins Gate movie KA: Satoshi Mori, Hiroshi Hamasaki, Hiromi Ishigami, & Masaru Hyodo. Yuu Yamashita was cooperating animation director
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 19:43
Is the Railgun S cuts you guys have been posting credited as a Tanaka anywhere or that's just a supposition you made based on the style?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 19:53
>>178
Tanaka is credited in this episode, and it's a guess based on the animation style.
http://i.imgur.com/k3VK70q.jpg
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 20:04
>>179
Okay. Thanks man.
So I just ought to watch a consequent number of acuts animated by an animator to spot out his/her style, right? But where can I know of this or that show's cut has been animated by this specific animator?
Thansk!
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 20:10
>>180
Just check out animator sakuga MADs, you can get a feel for the animator's drawing style and they show their cuts from various shows. Other than that, key animation books tend to note their works as well. Sometimes animators also confirm their cuts on Twitter if they have one.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 20:19
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 20:21
Also, looks like a director's work is somehow tough to be spotted out. How can you spot it out?
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 21:42
>>183
The best directors are easy to spot, trust me on this.
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 21:47
>>184
That doesn't help much...
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Anonymous
2013-05-17 23:50
>>185
you mean like episode director? Usually you can tell if they do storyboard. Stuff like framing each shot, the angles, even the art direction can be influenced and traced back to the episode director. Yamauchi is like 101 material for this, just watch any of his episodes and you'll get a hang of it
it helps if you know theory behind cinematography, you'll be able to understand "direction" and the likes better
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 6:50
>>185
Osamu Kobayashi uses "ugly" designs.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 8:31
>>183
Tell tale signs;
1 shot composition -
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/just-a-few-observations/
2 camera angels -
3 uses of similar cuts over various works - Shinbo's head tilt for example
4 similar use of colors - Masashi Ishihama's soft/pale coloring in works he directs
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 9:22
>>186 >>188
Great explciations. Thanks man! But I want to ask ou about angles, in intensive action, Tanaka and Aninari for example use various angles. Is this the storyboarder's choice or Tanaka's (Aninari's)? In others situations, it's obviously the storyboarder (Hyouka for example).
Thanks.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 9:38
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 9:51
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 13:39
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 13:53
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 15:07
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 15:07
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 16:21
>>194
That's really his work?
Looks kinda boring.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:02
Tanaka's talent has faded
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:04
>>192
The layout looks better than
>>194 the actual animation
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:05
so amazing, but shitty animated
http://i.imgur.com/ZCggFWc.jpg
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:09
R.I.P. in piece Tanaka ;_;
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:11
rest in peace in piece? The hell does that mean
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:16
>>194
I think Tanaka's style is a terrible match for that show.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:32
At least Muromi-san #7 looked as good as usual. Next week's episode is looking even better.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 17:43
Only Iso can save Titan.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 18:37
>>202
I find that when Tanaka doesn't fully commit his cuts tend to look boring or not very exciting. It's not a common occurance, but since he works on so many things, it can happen.
I also find his mecha animation is his weakest. The cut from Horizon season 1's intro and some of the Gundam AGE stuff fell really flat.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 18:44
>>199
why you dont animate this ? then ?
It seems easy no ?
Go doing it
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 18:47
More Tanaka?
http://imgur.com/N0t7orG,0bmCFmn,gFn8ZOT#0
Shingeki no Kyojin #7 was not bad, at least there's finally another episode without a schedule that's too messed up.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 19:02
>>206
What does that have to do with anything? He never said he could animate that better, he just said it was badly animated. You don't need to be an animator to give an opinion on animation, otherwise this thread wouldn't even exist.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 19:25
I know Tanaka was gettin' low around these times
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 19:26
Still Shot from Hironori Tanaka http://t.co/LATiYjP7Eq
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 20:13
>>208
This thread shouldn't even exist.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 20:31
and then the thread didn't exist
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 20:35
>>211
I disagree, this thread is a nice animation resource. You can always leave if you don't care for the opinions of the people that post here.
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Anonymous 2013-05-18 20:41
Don't reply to retards that can't even type in proper English.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 21:48
Shinji Higuchi confirms on Twitter that he is doing the storyboard for a Kill la Kill episode.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 22:04
The theory about everyone listed in the NewType article hyping KLK and praising Imaishi being involved in the show is true! Incoming Hiramatsu episode and Anno 2-second explosion.
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 22:06
Muromi #7 has some really cute character animation
http://imgur.com/a/KNYHD#0
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Anonymous
2013-05-18 22:11
>>216
Masayuki episode
Tsurumaki episode
Yoshinari episode
Shouko Nakamura episode
Osamu Kobayashi episode
Nishigori episode
Shin Itagaki episode
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 1:01
>>203
The episode before that was awful though. Yuyushiki is still the most consistent series this season.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 2:09
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 3:46
>>204
Iso will never animate a Titan fight.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 4:32
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 5:41
>>222
fantastic.
I don't understand
>>199
This is fantastic. Great motion and power.
Tanaka is back!
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 6:43
>>222
See, that looks more like Tanaka. The other gif people posted was just someone else.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 7:00
Based Tanaka
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 7:39
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 7:41
>>226
Some decent rotoscoping this time
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 8:54
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 9:26
>>220
Director/Storyboard: Shinobu Yoshioka
AD: Yuusuke Matsuo
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 9:41
>>229
Very unlikely.
They are not even at Ordet anymore.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 9:48
>>226
That scene was one of the most impressive things I've seen from recent seasons. It may be rotoscoped, but they did a hell of a good job with it. I just wish I could say the same about the rest of the show.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 9:49
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 10:11
>>230
Yoshioka is, Matsuo left. Something like:
Director/SB: Yoshioka
Animation Director: Sunao Chikaoka
Is more likely.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 10:43
>>233
Yoshioka is a freelancer and now working at A-1 on Ano Hana movie.
He haven't worked at Ordet since BRS and probably left the studio before that.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 13:23
Saint Young Men KA staff: Takaaki Wada, Naoyuki Asano, Isao Hayashi, Takashi Mukouda, Toshiharu Murata, Masayuki Sato, Hiroaki Imaki, Atsushi Yamagata, Keiko Sasaki, & Noriko Takao. 2nd KA: Megumi Kouno, Yuuki Itoh, Ryouji Masuyama.
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 13:27
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 14:09
>>235
It came out already?
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 17:22
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 17:34
>>238
Because they look good
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 20:28
>>238
Are you fucking kidding me. You can hardly tell that it's 3d. This is what SF should've looked like if done right. GG Xrd looks amazing!
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 20:44
>>186
Man, what do you mean through "theory of cinematography"?
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Anonymous
2013-05-19 20:50
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Anonymous 2013-05-19 23:21
The stealth marketing of Kazuma Miki is known?
the ASCII media works 2ch from in the company stealth marketing.
Japanese David Manning.
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2013-05-20 0:07
Anonymous 05/19/13(Sun)23:16 No.85897204
Replies:
>>85897448
So headtilts aside, Shaft tends to make some pretty nice-looking shows.
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Anonymous 05/19/13(Sun)23:22 No.85897606
Replies:
>>85897654
Unfortunately, everything SHAFT puts actual effort into sells like shit.
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Anonymous 05/19/13(Sun)23:23 No.85897654
>>85897606
They didn't really put alot of effort into Sasami.
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Anonymous 05/19/13(Sun)23:25 No.85897765
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Shaft is willing to try different animation styles in a way other studios aren't. This is probably their biggest strength overall.
That being said, they end up with some QUALITY at times due to how unconventional they are.
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Anonymous 05/19/13(Sun)23:26 No.85897882
I really hope you aren't citing that one. I liked it but it's near the bottom of Shaft's list. They clearly half-assed all the animation and if you think throwing in wacky reference faces makes it nice looking I don't know what to say.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 4:51
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 6:52
I really enjoyed the show's art style in SoreMachi.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 6:55
>>232
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKGPhKu3jNg Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN- Trailer #1
My god, that final bit with the blond girl's hair, they really went to huge effort to make their 3D animation emulate 2D animation; they got smears, S&S, traditional anime-like timing.
Other 3DCGI studios, are you even trying?
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 7:11
>>247
That's even better than Sanzigen's BRS, really impressive.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 7:22
Made by arcsystemworks themselves?
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 8:59
http://www.nosub.tv/watch/51196.html
Depth of Field #6
KA:
Rie Sezaki
Shimpei Sawa
Haruka Fujita
Masanao Maruyama
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 9:00
Tachikawa is directing KLK episode 7.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 10:47
Is there a website that lists staff for each episode?
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 10:48
>>252
Japanese Wikipedia has the core staff (writer/storyboard/director/AD). Or you mean all the KA staff?
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 10:56
>>253
I was hoping for KA as well, but that's good enough for now.
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2013-05-20 11:18
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2013-05-20 11:20
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2013-05-20 11:27
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 12:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3OcKAiBfQ
「伏 鉄砲娘の捕物帳(Fuse Teppo Musume no Torimonocho)」 作画集 Animator list ver.0.01
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 12:42
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 12:51
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 18:56
>>247
>>232
So this is the ArcS ystem game that Bahi tweeted about a few months ago.
He was asked to animate for this but it didn't work out because of his schedule with Koji Morimoto and Studio Bones.
But why would they ask him for this game? Aren't the animations all 3D?
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 19:00
>>261
Maybe they used rough 2D animations for the moves and used those as reference for the 3D animations.
Just llke rebuild of evangelion.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 19:01
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 19:02
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 19:05
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2013-05-20 19:11
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2013-05-20 19:39
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2013-05-20 19:55
>>261
Some of the effects look like 2D stuff.
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Anonymous
2013-05-20 21:21
They probably need a 2D artist to draw rough KA and layouts, like most 3DCGI anime studios do these days..
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 1:03
>>261
I think the effect animation is 2D.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 1:28
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 1:33
>>271
Tanaka animated the circus?
273
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 5:23
Anime Mirai 2014 : Ultra Super Pictures, A-1 Pictures, Shinei Doga & Studio 4°C are in
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 5:38
>>273
Yasuhiro YOSHIURA (Time of Eve) is directing USP's short.
Naoyuki ONDA is directing for 4°c.
Ayumu WATANABE (Space Brothers) is directing A-1 pictures short.
Kazuaki IMAI is directing Shinei short. He is an episode director on Doraemon.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 6:31
https://twitter.com/jet_moebro/status/336776826930208768
I guess it would be pointless if he would work through the net on Animemirai since the whole promise is to directly support animators.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 7:16
>>271
>>272
He's in the top KA credits, there is big chance that him
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 7:32
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 8:35
>>273
The hell is Ultra Super Pictures lol
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 8:44
>>278
It's the joint holding company for Trigger, Ordet and Sanzigen.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 8:50
>>279
And Good Smile and Liden Film.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 8:53
>>279
So basically Trigger gets to do this Anime Mirai thing twice. Good for them ^^
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 9:04
>>281
Doubt that.
Those who're in Anime Mirai aren't allowed to work on any other project for 6 months and the production of Anime Mirai will start around the time KLK is airing so don't expect something like LWA. This project is going to be more of Ordet+Liden than Trigger.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 9:51
http://i.imgur.com/hIuOVyW.jpg
sakuga episode in Sparrow's Hotel #6
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 9:57
>>283
Imazaki power. It's still completely lacking in animation, but the difference is... pretty obvious.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 12:04
>>282
>>280
It's not any of them; it's Purple Cow Studios.
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 14:07
Saint Onee-san PV with some raw genga and unfinished cuts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK_xF-qPBik
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 16:01
http://i.imgur.com/Lu41bSJ.jpg
Yuyushiki #7 end card by Kazuchika Kise
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 19:38
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Anonymous
2013-05-21 22:28
The project I worked on with Koji Morimotoさん had it's premiere at the Cannes festival on sunday. Nice!
it was a special screening. Trailer is not out yet.
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/336997950137974785
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 5:42
>Koji Morimoto was sakuga kantoku.
>Animators were Satoru Utsunomiya, Bahi JD, Jamie Vickers, Toru Yoshida, Aoki Yasuhiro
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/337137240524324865
Utsunomiya is back to work?!
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 5:43
Koji Morimoto was sakuga kantoku. Animators were Satoru Utsunomiya, Bahi JD, Jamie Vickers, Toru Yoshida, Aoki Yasuhiro
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 6:06
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 6:26
When is the Star Driver movie coming to DVD?
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 6:35
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 7:52
>>293
>>294
Sakuga incoming
Ao no Exorcist Movie, and HXH Movie are coming on July. Star Driver Movie on August. What left is Toaru Majutsu no Index ???
296
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 11:02
>>295
Toaru Nozomu no Abe on August 28th.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 12:36
>>295
If the HxH movie is anything like the series I wouldn't expect any sakuga.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 13:21
>>297
TV series looks pretty good.
299
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 13:45
Only real sakuga allowed in this thread, poseurs that get excited over any little bit of movement pls go home.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 14:05
>>298
It looks good in an average anime sense, but it has no sakuga. No standout animation.
301
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 14:12
>>300
https://vimeo.com/66587638
I don't watch it, but I think some cuts here look really good.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 14:14
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 14:39
>>302
Not sakugamad worthy, 5/10 wouldn't save.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 15:05
>>301
I don't see any sakuga in there. Sure, it's better than average TV animation, but that by itself doesn't make exceptional. I agree it's not worthy of a sakuga video.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 15:24
>>304
What are you talking about? There is sakuga in the video, it's just a matter of whether the sakuga in there is top notch or not.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 16:11
>>305
I guess that comes down to one own's definition of sakuga. Let's just say there's no outstanding animation in that video, and you won't miss anything by not watching it.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 16:52
>>297
HxH is probably the best animated long running anime that's airing at the moment.
308
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 17:01
>>307
When it comes to average quality, I agree. When it comes to actual sakuga (pieces of outstanding animation), I think it's rock bottom.
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 17:55
310
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 18:43
>>308
I don't know, man; there's a lot of long-running shows out there. Would you really say Hunter X Hunter has less outstanding animation than, say, Space Brothers?
311
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 19:30
>>310
HxH has no outstanding animation, as far as I'm concerned. The series' strong point is that the average animation is really solid for a long running show, with a pretty much complete lack of really ugly episodes. The downside to that is that the animation never goes beyond "pretty nice".
It's really not a sakuga show.
312
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 19:41
>>311
Sure, but I don't think most long running shows have stand-out animation. Naruto, One Piece and Precure do, but what else?
313
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 21:54
One Piece hasn't had stand-out animation in a very long time. Unless you count Naotoshi Shida as stand-out, which I don't.
314
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 22:41
Toei and Pierrot can occasionally have episodes with great animation in their shows, though normally they look mediocre to terrible. Otherwise I don't think there are many (any?) long-running shows with extraordinarily notable animation.
>>313
This is definitely standout animation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce3M_iPCM4U
315
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Anonymous
2013-05-22 23:22
Shin-chan
316
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-22 23:43
>>312
One Piece looks pretty terrible with hardly any good animation.
317
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 1:07
HxH is not a sakuga show the same way that KyoAni is not sakuga
318
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 1:14
>>309
Modern Doraemon movies are well animated.
Check out Nobita and the New Steel Troops if you haven't.
Nobita and the Island of Miracles is not as great has Nobita's Dinosaurs or Steel Troops but it's still better than most anime films for kids out there.
319
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 2:42
>>309
Man, I love the explosion in the fourth gif. So nice.
320
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 4:05
321
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 5:20
>>317
Are you seriously comparing HxH's animation quality to kyoani's? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
322
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 5:53
>>320
This black and white pencil punch should have a name.
I love these kind of hommages, it's like animators doing that Kanada dragon thing.
323
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 10:27
324
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 10:32
>>320
No Obari punch
calls it self sakuga mad
0/10
http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/28 .html ctrl+f 大張パンチ
325
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 10:44
326
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 10:58
>>324
Someone should translate the terms there. It even mentions Yutapon cubes.
327
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 11:05
>>324
>>326
"Takeuchi Wrinkle"
It could be glass, it could be uniform, it could be an empty can but it seems to be soft anyway.
328
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 11:25
329
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 11:56
>>325
Can't be Numata, they're fucking awful.
330
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 12:45
Numata is fucking awful.
331
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-23 12:58
Of course these designs are awful, if you've seen the manga you'd know why. It's already an improvement from that terrible art though.
332
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 17:46
333
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Anonymous
2013-05-23 19:33
Nice effect work here and there^
334
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Anonymous
2013-05-24 4:05
335
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Anonymous
2013-05-24 4:24
336
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Anonymous
2013-05-24 8:59
337
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 10:36
>When pondering about who should be the director, I immediately had Yoshinari (※2) in mind. By the time we told him about our idea, Yoshinari had already started working on a TV series as one of the main staff, and it seemed he was in conflict about whether it was okay to leave the staff. Despite having expected refusal, his answer after a week was, “Let’s do it.” That is when our project started.
338
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 10:52
The guys at Trigger are Yoshinari's best friends, would be totally ass if he had refused to join them and rather do Mass Effect shit at IG.
339
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 10:54
Yuasa is so indie and fashion.
340
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 10:56
>>339
Yuasa and Ohira are "independent meets mainstream"
341
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 10:56
Yuasa is an artist
342
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:00
343
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:02
Yuasa's animation is always on acid
344
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:05
old school Studio 4°c
with Koji Morimoto, Michael Arias, Shoujirou Nishimi, Masaaki Yuasa.
http://www.boilet.net/images_sakka/2004_1102_08.JPG
back then they were the most creative Studio.
345
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:09
346
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:09
>>344
What is Michael Arias doing now?
347
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:42
>>337
>Yoshinari had already started working on a TV series
Which TV series?
348
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 11:50
We will never now. Maybe Guilty Crown or RoboNotes.
349
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 12:14
350
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 12:16
>>345
Nicolas De Crécy
>>346
Being depressed as usual.
351
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 12:23
https://twitter.com/ben_the_bear/status/337958870251106304
According to Maruyama, Takeshi Koike didn't leave Madhouse, he was fired because Redline took so long to make.
Poor Koike, relegated to doing random KA and design work for crappy Live action films. He should just go join Trigger.
352
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 18:15
353
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 19:27
>>351
I can't blame them. How the fuck do you take 7 years to make Redline? They make Ghibli movies in 2 1/2 3 years. Learn from that.
354
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 19:53
>>353
Are you actually comparing Ghibli to Redline? Have you even seen the film?
It had just as much, if not more, animation as a Ghibli film. Plus, an enormous amount of hand-drawn vehicle animation. Plus, WAY more complex character designs. In the time it took to draw one frame of Redline, Ghibli could probably finish an entire sequence.
355
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 21:45
>>337
How do you know Yoshinari was at I.G at the time?
356
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 22:04
>>354
Yeah, I've seen it. I agree with the vehicle argument, but the character design thing doesn't really hold. There wasn't a lot of long scenes with characters walking and interacting. To animate the character scenes there's no way in hell it'd have to take that much time. There were a couple of crowd scenes that didn't have complex movements.
Was Redline an awesome stylish animated movie? YES for sure. Should it have taken anywhere near 7 years to make it? Oh HELL NO!
357
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Anonymous
2013-05-24 22:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9eVSoY2cAE
so Photo Kano rotation shots are actually hand-drawn... 108 drawings were used for this one :
http://twitpic.com/ch72e5
358
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 22:40
I heard that Redline changed the direction half way thought the production. The project started out as an OVA that's why it's not produced by Madhouse's movie studio. Initially, It had a more wacky style(something like Dead Leaves or Trava) but after they decided to make it a movie, they changed the style to make it appeal to wider audiences.
359
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 23:07
>>357
What a waste of effort.
360
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-24 23:13
>>358
Yeah, the style of the pilot is pretty different from the movie.
361
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 0:20
>>332
That was probably the best action sequence in the series. Nicely done.
362
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 3:23
>>356
One of the crowd scene took a whole month from Takafumi Hori to animate
363
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 4:24
>>351
Good riddance. That movie was god awful.
364
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 4:58
https://twitpic.com/ct1med
Smears, in my CGI animation?
365
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 5:08
366
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 5:59
>>358
No. The pilot is just what a pilot does. So they can sell an idea to the producers and get funding. Much like how there was a Sword of the Stranger pilot, that was screened several years before the movie came out. Once the go ahead was given to Redline's movie production. The staff were tasked with creating a high quality movie, with that comes restrictions they must adhere to.
367
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 6:01
>>354
Vehicle animation is not hard in the hands of the right kind of animators. Especially a film like Redline, where many of the senior animators were very much adept at mecha animation (they count vehicles under the 'mecha' banner which refers to anything mechanical)
368
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 6:44
>>362
Is there anything Hori can't animate?
369
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 7:06
>>364
That's exactly what I mentioned earlier. It probably isn't an actual smear like in the new Guilty Gear though.
370
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 7:39
>>351
redline is not live
it's a great animated movie
371
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 7:42
>>353
Your statement doesn't make any sense
Go make movie and you'll come up with more logical thinking
372
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 8:24
>>370
He was probably taking about Katsuhito Ishii's films.
373
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 9:25
Studio BONES' C studio seems to be working on a show called "Tenkai Night" テンカイナイト http://wanpack.main.jp/archives/1603
374
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 10:11
2D animators are so lazy these days.
375
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 10:24
>>374
First, CGI backgrounds
then CGI mecha
followed by CGI background characters
Finally full CGI anime to be the norm?
376
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 10:45
>>374
I guess they(directors) don't want to get fired like Koike.
377
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 10:56
I have lots of responsibility on my animation scene right now. directing, cinematography & animating. because the storyboard was super rough
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/338305258746966017
378
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:22
key-animators can have lots of control on anime if the actual director allows it. Of course we are exchanging ideas together, teamwork！！
I'm very happy that the director has so much trust in my work, it's very exciting that I can put all my ideas in this.
Of course I also feel a lot of pressure but Toshiyuki Inoueさん showed me that it's ok to make mistakes and fail, that's how we progress.
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/338308615897227265
379
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:22
Bahi > Trigger
380
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:25
>>379
Don't start flame wars with Bahi and Trigger.
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/338310400988815361
I don't want to hype anything, or set any big expectations, (;; ^ q ^) let's wait and see how it ends up.
381
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:28
web gen strong
382
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:31
>>380
(;; ^ q ^) let's wait and see how it ends up.
he sounds like he is going to fuck it up badly.
383
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:34
>>382
let's wait and see how it ends up.
I will just wait and see how it ends up.
384
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:39
>>382
inb4 people mistake his cuts for being rotoscoped like in Apollon
385
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 11:39
key-animators can have lots of control on anime if the actual director allows it. this is also one of the reasons why some key-animators become directors later in their career. It's not just about knowing how to animate.
386
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 12:00
Kill la Kill info from the Imaishi All Night Event:
387
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 13:46
388
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 17:15
Based Yoshihara did it again. Muromi-san #8 was amazing.
389
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 18:19
>>388
Takeshi Honda worked on Muromi-san?
Why didn't anyone upload his scene?
And wich scene was done by Rapparu?
390
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 18:20
391
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 18:48
>>390
I believe an "eyecatch" is what those little things at the middle of an episode are called. Before/after commercial breaks, usually says the name of the show.
392
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 19:13
>>389
Did you get that from ANN? It's this person.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=19766
This is the second time I know of this animator appears on Honda's ANN page. (The other was Sakurasou which braves has reported already. What a good job he does keeping ANN credits somewhat accurate.)
393
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-25 22:44
http://i.imgur.com/uUGxMuA.jpg
This flashed very briefly in Muromi #8
What does it mean?
394
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 0:42
>>393
コマ送り禁止 = no frame-by-frame allowed
395
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 8:01
『K』 movie? This is getting... dangerous. (ﾟДﾟ)
396
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 8:29
>>395
Not sure if my body can handle 2 hours of non stop green/blue filters and glare
397
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 11:53
>>396
Watch 5 minutes of this movie and you will go blind forever
but really, if i'm going to watch this movie, it'll for the action sakuga, GoHands gonna pull their best key animators for this one since Mardock Scramble: The Third Exhaust is already finished.
398
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 14:48
I really wish GoHands wouldn't ruin their good animation with their hideous digital processing.
399
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 16:58
somebody to tell me if watanabe have eyes!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Z1uvexzrQ&feature=youtu.be
sorry if already posted, but come on shinichiro, we want to see your eyes!
400
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 22:35
People still use this board?
401
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 22:47
what do you mean ?
402
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-26 22:52
>>400
What other board should they be using?
403
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 5:56
404
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 6:59
Space Dandy confirmed for Fall. Hoping for Yutapon as a regular.
405
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 7:09
406
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 8:19
>>403
Oh wow!
first time to me haha
407
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 9:09
>>404
Yutapon hasn't been a regular in Bones anime since Soul Eater. He will do stuff in episode 1, people will get hyped and he will never appear again... like in Star Driver.
408
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 9:36
>>407
He appeared in Star Driver's finale.
409
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 9:43
>>408
Which part did he work on?
410
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 9:50
>>409
http://i.imgur.com/MrZXh2q.jpg
Took him 10 minutes to draw it.
>>407
BELIEVE
411
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 9:57
412
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 10:36
413
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 10:44
>>411
Maybe training the newer staff? I feel like just having Yutapon in the same building as me would make me a better animator.
414
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 11:02
Norio Matsumoto > Yutapon
415
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 11:09
>>414
I prefer Yutapon's action scenes, but Matsumoto has done more stuff like animating entire episodes and has greater control of the animated form. Despite that, the former's work is a lot more exciting for me to look at.
416
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 11:18
>>414
I'd say Yutapon's animation is more stylish and depicts weight better whereas Matsumoto is faster and shows detailed fight choreography that is more grounded in reality(relatively speaking).
417
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 11:25
418
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 12:20
419
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 12:51
>>415
>>416
Matusmoto has more range than Nakamura; his scenes are more creative and he can't be stereotyped as a single class of animation. Nakamura is a one trick pony, barely any better than Shishida. There is no serious sakuga nerd that would hold Nakamura over Matsumoto, he is a GOD CLASS animator comparable to Inoue and Iso.
420
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 13:03
nakamura is higher than norio in the Top tiers classment i think
421
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 13:19
>Matusmoto has more range than Nakamura; his scenes are more creative and he can't be stereotyped as a single class of animation. Nakamura is a one trick pony,
422
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 14:11
Your opinion is wrong.
423
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 14:50
424
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 14:54
>>420
No, Norio was at the top with Iso.
425
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 16:09
>>420
>>424
What are you guys even taking about
426
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 16:41
アニメ様「『キルラキル』に萌えはあるの？」
427
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 16:42
translation?
428
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 16:46
>>427
AnimeStyle dude: "Is there gonna be moe in Kill la Kill?"
Imaishi: "Sushio is working very hard"
429
Name:
Anonymous 2013-05-27 18:20
>>421
They are both top class action animators, no point in comparing them.
This a million times.
The shit some idiots say in this thread is so moronic sometimes.
430
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 18:43
PS4 > XBOX One
431
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 20:32
432
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-27 20:35
433
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-28 11:56
434
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-28 18:46
>>432
I don't remember this episode. Then again, I haven't watched B:TAS in a hell of a long time. Anyway, that was pretty damn crazy.
435
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 0:16
436
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 0:36
Like past Yuasa productions, its aesthetic leans more toward showing off the incredible detail and fluidity of motion achieved by his animators rather than a clean, spotless “animation-by-committee” look of more conventional productions. In other words, it looks like it was created by real humans, and it’s wonderful for it.
http://www.otakuusamagazine.com/Newsletter/News1/KickHeart_Tokyo_Premiere_Report_5128.aspx
Kick-Heart confirmed for being made by real human beings
437
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 3:35
>>436
This is kind of an insult to everyone working on mainstream shows.
438
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 3:54
Hipster sakuga> mainstream sakuga
439
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 6:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3XULUDfzU
Can someone help me identify the song used here?
I know this is off topic but help would appreciated.
440
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 7:21
>>439
Good Blue by School Food Punishment.
441
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 7:31
>>440
I love you.
You have my eternal gratitude.
442
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 11:14
443
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 11:20
>>442
I for one, welcome our new CGI overlords
444
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 13:45
445
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 15:02
>>437
Yeah. I don't really like this mentality. Putting experimental animation on pedestal for the sole reason of being unconventional. I mean, I enjoy the style of Yuasa as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't think it's more "real animation" than something more standard nor would I want every production to have the style of Mind Game. It's good to have diversity, but standards are usually standards for good reasons. That comment just comes off as unnecessarily arrogant and somewhat pretentious.
446
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 15:28
>>442
THE FUTURE OF SAKUGA
447
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 15:50
>>445
Yuasa didn's say it, it's just the reviewer talking shit.
448
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-29 16:15
449
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 7:50
>>442
why the low framerate?
450
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 7:53
http://raizin-japan.com/interview/02.html
Interview of Ishida Hiroyasu (Fumiko's Confession) about his new film with Takashi Nakamura
451
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 8:04
452
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 9:42
>>442
No joke, this is the future of mass production anime made for fanservice and money purposes.
But Imaishi and all these people are still around, but they will no longer be part of mainstream.
453
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 9:44
>>450
Ishida will save japanese animation
454
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 9:48
455
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 9:54
456
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 9:56
>>454
Makihara will save WIT.
457
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 10:00
>>455
Oh wow, I never guessed that was his work but I remember thinking those cuts were neat when watching E7 back then.
458
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 10:48
Attack on Titan ep. 8: Arifumi Imai did key animation for the scene of Mikasa and Annie killing the last two titans in the supply room. Yasuyuki Ebara did 1st Key Animation for the slow motion punch on the two titans. Katsuhiko Kitada did 2nd KA on it.
459
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 13:04
460
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 13:55
>>451
Anohana rerun... yeah fuck Noitamina
461
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 18:44
>>455
didnt knew it was him
dat dude is a beast
462
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 19:29
Latest episode of Pokemon was another KA solo by Masaaki Iwane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgujH5AuiI
463
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-30 20:07
464
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 0:07
>>459
He's directing a show this season.
465
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 0:36
466
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 3:16
467
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 7:32
>>462
Always impressed he can do solo KA so much, in this day and age where schedules are fucked up and budgets are so badly allocated.
Anyone know why he's able to do it? Does Pokemon have good schedules? Do they actually share some of the merchandising money back to the animators so the aniamtion can be better?
468
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 8:40
>>467
Haven't tight schedules in anime been a normal thing since forever? Still, it's pretty interesting for solo episodes to be more common in older anime though the quality of the animation tends to vary from what I've heard. The rare solo episode today tends to be of pretty high quality work thought only the crazy and talented animators can pull that off.
469
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 11:14
>>466
>no swimming
K-ON with dudes confirmed.
470
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 11:23
>>469
They've shown a guy floating in a pool, that's a good start.
471
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 13:24
Can someone list well-known animators who did solo episode before, I only know
472
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 13:38
>>471
Osamu Kobayashi - Kemonozume #7
Kanako Maru - Casshern Sins #18
Michio Mihara - Kemonozume #12 & Kaiba #4
473
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 13:40
Honey and Clover 7 by Tetsuya Takeuchi
474
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 14:36
Tetsuya Takeuchi - Yuri Seijin Naoko-san (2012)
475
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 14:42
>>471
Yuusuke Matsuo - Fractale 5
Tetsuya Takeuchi - Naoko-san OVA
476
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 16:44
Nobuyoshi SASAKADO (佐々門 信芳) has made his career doing solo episodes. He has like 100 under his name.
http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/pages/32.html
He worked like this all the way from the 80s, through the 90s until the early 00s.
477
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 18:51
Norio Matsumoto did one, right? In You are under Arrest I believe
478
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 20:30
>>477
I think he didn't manage to finish his solo but a good chunk of an episode should contain his work.
479
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 20:43
>>471
Hironori Tanaka - School Days 6
480
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 22:11
http://i.imgur.com/0kNWAG2.jpg
Why does Railgun have so many ADs per episode? It doesn't seem like it's made on a tight schedule.
481
Name:
Anonymous
2013-05-31 22:32
>>480
JC Staff shows always have a lot of ADs; they want to keep the waifus on-model, I guess.
482
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 0:31
483
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 2:27
484
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 9:33
fractale is awesome production wise?
485
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 10:51
>>484
Dude, Fractale saved anime, though it couldn't save itself.
486
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 11:18
>>485
It's called self-sacrifice.
487
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 14:40
Cool effects scene in Oreimo 2 #3 by Teruaki Tokumaru (徳丸輝明) http://twitpic.com/cusvv2
488
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 15:56
Character animation > effects animation > mechanic animation
489
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 16:21
490
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 16:50
effects animation > mechanic animation
491
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 17:27
492
Name:
Anonymous 2013-06-01 18:59
mechanic > effect > character
493
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 19:21
Vehicle> Mechanic>effect>character
494
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 19:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik6-ChwRgeo
What do you think of this kind of guy ?
Sakuga is becoming mainstream shit ?
495
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 19:32
>>493
Vehicle = mecha at least when it comes to japanese animation.
No distinction is made.
Takeshi Koike calls all the car animation in Redline "mecha animation" because mecha means mechanical, not just giant robots.
496
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 20:09
>>495
Fair enough.
A part of mecha is dead then
Maybe it's because turning a car in 2d is just a shitload of problem ,like animating The beautiful belldandy
Too much details and too hard risk of goin off the road and drawing something false
497
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 20:19
>>492
Mecha animation is dying out because it is hard to learn for the youngsters today
But why?
498
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 21:04
Does this milk smell funny to you?
499
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 22:36
>>495
>Vehicle = mecha at least when it comes to japanese animation.
I guess the same person is in charge of them, but animating a robot is still different from drawing vehicles like traditional military hardware or space ships. It also depends if the mecha/vehicle animation is realistic or stylized.
We won't see anything like Stink Bomb again since rigid and geometric forms are much easier to work with in 3D.
500
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-01 22:46
Hunter x Hunter #82 KA:
501
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 1:00
>>497
This generation is to weak according to bahi.
502
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 4:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8EVhUMXms0
Free's character animation should be solid
503
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 4:10
>>502
Can't tell much from the PV because it consists of mostly close-up shots.
504
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 7:53
>>500
Sawada did awesome Killua part.
Kazuto did Kite part?
505
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 8:56
>>502
Looks really bland. RIP in peace, KyoAni.
506
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 9:03
>>505
RIP actually means "rest in peace". No clue to add "in peace".
Seems like real Sakuga guys are also dying. RIP.
507
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 9:15
508
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 9:16
Online sperm donations
509
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 10:42
>>497
I think it's because young animator today have little to no interest in how machine works. Yasuo Otsuka spent his childhood drawing trains and cars and Anno also really fond of airplane in his youth.
510
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 10:45
>>509
Even Miyazaki who is more known for character work, his passion for planes drove him to make Porco Rosso.
511
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 11:07
>>497
Youngsters today just want to animate flashy scenes.
Flashy mecha animation takes too much time and effort.
512
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 12:42
513
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 14:56
514
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 20:12
>>509
And young animatorsnaren't fan of Mecha's (trains, planes, cars etc) nowadays? I don't think that's it.
515
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 21:47
>>514
Young people these days in general aren't as fascinated by mechanical stuff.
516
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 22:15
Mecha animation is also a dead end, lol. Not like 2D animation isn't...
517
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-02 23:37
>>492
Bullshit.
There is no emotional aspect involved in mecha, you don't have to think about how to move a robot or vehicle based on anything but physics.
Character animation is much, much more rewarding artistically, and good character animation is by far more exciting to watch than good mecha animation. You're only thinking about action scenes, forgetting the unlimited range of possibilities for the artform.
Come at me fuckers.
518
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 1:35
>>517
Character animation is much, much more rewarding artistically
Explain further
519
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 1:38
Starting on ep. 9, Attack on Titan added on another series action director to help out: Yuuko Sera. She's worked on ep. 6 and 9.
520
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 1:56
>>518
When you think about how to animate a character, there's a lot of stuff to take into account (at least, if you want to be top-game). Not only the context of the story, but the character's personality, the style of acting you're aiming for (literal/theatrical), how the animation style suits that, and more out-there would be cultural influences on both the animator and the character being animated (which the animator should ideally take into account). And well, animating emotions is simply much harder because it requires a higher degree of empathy and understanding than action.
If you want to talk physics only, it would depend on the artstyle. Animating a really detailed design would be infinitely harder than mecha animation simply due to all the bones and muscles moving when someone talks, not only in the face but in the whole body.
Not that anyone in animation would want such a realistic approach to the drawings, but still, generalizing "mecha animation" and "character animation" implies taking into account every style in which those two could be employed.
521
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 2:33
So in terms of difficulty:
522
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 2:58
523
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 5:42
524
Name:
Anonymous 2013-06-03 7:28
>>517
Most mecha in anime move with human movements though. It's the one thing most mecha anime bullshit over and that is how two joysticks and some pedals manage to get a robot to move so varyingly. That is because the directors and animators want the robots to move with human like motions. Just take the Evangelion units. Mecha that move with human or even beast like movements.
That requires knowledge of human/character animation as well as being able to draw these large, lumpy mechanical structures.
I'd say:
average/shit character animation > average/shit mechanical animation
I have seen some horrendously drawn monkey scribbles tried to be passed off as mecha animation, it's too hard for the average freelancer who doesn't give a shit. Being a mecha sakkan is also hard since there just so much more to correct compared to a chara sakkan who often only works on correcting character faces.
But
top tier mecha animation > top tier character animation
Since mecha derives from chara, effect & mecha. Expertise in all areas is required to deliver top notch animation.
Take someone like Yutapon, he was almost exclusively a mecha animator when he first started, now we know him more for his character work. It's because he excelled at mecha that he is great at chara work imo.
525
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 7:36
well
526
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 8:12
Anime needs more non-humanoid mecha.
527
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 10:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJw6noeFbdk
some nice movment running conan there
beware of spoilers
528
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 13:00
>>527
everything was pretty generic there
529
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 14:22
yep , but the technique is good on some plans
530
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 14:43
>>524
Yutapon isn't a good character animator; he doesn't do ACTING. He is a great action animator, but his animation has no personality. You don't feel the characters through Yutapon animation, you just feel the cool action. Maybe it's just directors always giving him the same kung-fu inspired stuff, but I feel personality in Yutapon's animation. Or rather, I feel Yutapon's personality, but not the character's.
531
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 14:50
>>530
>I don't feel personality*
Forgot a don't.
532
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 19:35
Which Japanese animators actually put a lot of thought into their character acting?
533
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 20:54
534
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 20:59
535
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-03 21:01
Okay, so all the best realist animators?
536
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 0:21
>>532
Miyazaki and Ghibli-school animators.
Kigami.
537
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 1:58
Shinji Otsuka, Osamu Tabane, Iso (when he did that sort of stuff), and yeah, Okiura is pretty good too.
That was my point in
>>517 . You can't make a mecha emote. I would even argue the reason EVA was so great was that they managed to merge human emotionality with mecha-like beings (always talking about animation), but even then, the EVAs don't even have facial expressions, nor do they engage in anything else that isn't action (meaning they have no body language either).
Using Yutapon as an example only makes me think, again, that you're only thinking about action scenes.
538
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 2:20
539
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 2:35
One month to go for the first resl Kill la Kill CM.
540
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 10:35
541
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 11:53
you can't judge Yutapon not being a character animator if you haven't seen any character acting scene by him.
542
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 12:16
According to the employees' claim, they were made to work six-day weeks, and when deadlines were approaching, made to work 7 hours of overtime a day multiple days in a row, then were not paid for their overtime work. Additionally, the employees claim that when they approached the company about the unpaid overtime, the company told them that "in the anime industry we do not pay overtime" and the company cut their salaries.
543
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 12:17
>>542
Where is this from?
544
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 12:22
545
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 12:44
>>542
the company told them that "in the anime industry we do not pay overtime" and the company cut their salaries
Man, that's fucked up.
>>542
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-05-17/anime-subcontractor-studio-easter-sued-for-unpaid-overtime
546
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 14:04
Neat cartoon network animation short
http://vimeo.com/67577762
547
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 15:56
guys , where i can find this anime of 009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC_zVUSaq2k
the song in the beginning is awesome too (0'20 to 2'22)
548
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 16:15
549
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 16:23
but what's the name of the series ?
550
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 16:41
>>549
Cyborg 009, a remake of an old tv series released on 2001.
the first episode is very good animation wise. I tried watching it but it was pretty boring. I couldnt get past episode 10 I think. And the 1st one was the only good one.
551
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 17:00
>>548
>>550
To bad, I searched for this a long time ago
and i found the 1st season, but the 2nd season was never released on DVD from Sony
I watched this series in Arabic channel, and I liked the show
It had some nice animation
Yoh Yoshinari worked in 31 and 46
552
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 17:03
cool
553
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 20:24
554
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-04 21:37
>>552
yuri kuma arashi
There's hardly any info out, and the PV hasn't been uploaded to the internet.
555
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-05 7:42
『Paris/Japan Expo scene - Sunday July 7th from 10h45am to 11h30am』 / panel about the anime I worked on The2Queens二人の女王 with exclusive stuff
https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/342243811008860161
556
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-05 10:46
557
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-05 19:50
558
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 2:24
559
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 3:03
>>558
Could've done a better job at adapting Kumeta's designs, but it looks acceptable in motion. At least it's something visually different compared to PA's past few shows for once.
560
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 6:14
>>558
Kumeta designs with more three dimensional framing sure look unusual.
561
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 7:21
>>559
I think the key visual looks beyond awful but the action thing is fairly good looking. Has a unique flair to it, definitely better than anything P.A. have ever made.
562
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 7:36
So has everyone migrated to the IRC channel, the thread is so sparse these days.
563
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 9:00
564
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 9:05
>>563
R is for rotoscope.
565
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 9:17
>>562
Not much to talk about this season. Fall is your best bet if everything goes as expected.
566
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:26
567
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:31
>>566 The 180° pan looks cool but you just made me get tired of it.
I guess it has become a trend among students.
Wasn't there also a pan like these in Shinji Hashimoto's Spriggan scene?
568
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:35
>>567
I have no issues with it but it would be annoying if it was used in more than one scene.
569
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:37
>>566
Yoh Yoshinari also did this pan "almost".
http://youtu.be/CVQzIpHOE9Q?t=58s
It's not reaching 180 but almost at it.
570
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:46
>>565
I think there are no pans like this in any Miyazaki film.
571
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:50
>>566
french animators love it to spin around with their camera.
http://youtu.be/rnod13_Xsf0?t=31s
572
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:52
>>571
"One thing I hate in movies is when the camera starts circling around the characters. I find that totally fake."
Takeshi Kitano
Never seen a 360° in animation,
180° is still ok for me.
573
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 10:53
>>572
360 is ugly as shit, Michael Bay does that the whole time on the transformers shit.
574
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:11
>>572
catherine animation vioncent scream sequence ?
575
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:18
>>569
It's pretty much free camera movement.
That scene is just crazy.
576
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:23
>>572
"I don't want my animation scene to end up becoming a Michael Bay mess. So gotta be careful."
577
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:23
>>572
"I don't want my animation scene to end up becoming a Michael Bay mess. So gotta be careful."
Bahi JD
578
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:30
>>577 Is he working on a scene were everything is blowing up or what?
Just Hideki Kakita all over it Bahi, it will be fine.
Explosions are cool!
579
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:30
Hideki Kakita FTW !
580
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:33
>>578
Don't say shit about Kakita!
His explosions are balanced!
581
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:35
>>580
explosions are balanced!
how can explosions be balanced?
You never know how things will blow up.
582
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:37
>>581 have you ever heard of fireworks or pyrotechnists?
583
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:40
>>582
things that are not ment to explode don't explode in a balanced way.
Fireworks are all planned.
584
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:43
explosion sakuga is best sakuga
585
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:44
It's not Kakita's fault.
586
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 11:55
what's the secret behind the magic sakuga towel that everyone wears?
http://i.imgur.com/dpMqgad.png
587
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 12:27
>>586
keeps the creative juices from flowing out
588
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 15:21
The theory is all the animation talent is actually controlled by the towel. Yutapon's human body is just a vessel for his towel to channel his animation powers.
589
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 20:38
590
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 21:20
>>589
dat generic everything
591
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 22:20
592
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-06 23:04
>>591
Does it matter? Looks pretty bad to me.
593
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 7:06
moe is so bad
594
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:00
>>593
Madoka is shit.
Go fuck yourself and never come back.
595
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:05
>>594
No, fuck you, Yuki Aoi is awesome.
596
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:11
597
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:14
>>596
>implying Bahi wants to hang out here
598
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:17
>>597
You, back to the imageboards.
599
Name:
Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:34
>>595
Who care about a random voice actor?
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Anonymous
2013-06-07 8:44
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