Animation Appreciation Thread #15

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>>480

JC Staff shows always have a lot of ADs; they want to keep the waifus on-model, I guess.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CR07KZY
https://twitter.com/porigoshi/status/340489130486161409

Looks like Takafumi Hori's book is available on Kindle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiQ3Ta-0P8w

Free character PV 2


[sakugay intensifies]

fractale is awesome production wise?

graphics , animation ?

It was a success or a flop?

>>484
Dude, Fractale saved anime, though it couldn't save itself.

>>485
It's called self-sacrifice.

Cool effects scene in Oreimo 2 #3 by Teruaki Tokumaru (徳丸輝明) http://twitpic.com/cusvv2

Character animation > effects animation > mechanic animation

Discuss

>>488
Agreed.

effects animation > mechanic animation

Mecha animation requires good drawing skills but even a shitty artist like rapparu can do effect animation.

>>488
In what regard?

mechanic > effect > character

character animation is the basic, bare bones skill any animator needs. Almost all of them are capable to some extent of doing it.

Effect animation requires an understanding of physics of effect/smoke/fire/water etc.. so the skill barrier is slightly higher.

Mechanic animation requires much more mental capacity since you don't rely on the skills of character animation too much, yet you still need those basics from doing chara & effect work. Oh and mecha animation implies effect animation since both used to be so tightly linked (mecha sakkan also handled effect sakkan work). If you were a good mecha animator, then you were also a good effects animator.


Mecha animation is dying out because it is hard to learn for the youngsters today, but simple flashy character animation is easier to pick up and go with.

Vehicle> Mechanic>effect>character

if vehicle can be non associated with mechanics

vehicles 2d animation is already dead (even in japan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik6-ChwRgeo

What do you think of this kind of guy ?
Sakuga is becoming mainstream shit ?

>>493
Vehicle = mecha at least when it comes to japanese animation.
No distinction is made.
Takeshi Koike calls all the car animation in Redline "mecha animation" because mecha means mechanical, not just giant robots.

>>495
Fair enough.
A part of mecha is dead then

Maybe it's because turning a car in 2d is just a shitload of problem ,like animating The beautiful belldandy
Too much details and too hard risk of goin off the road and drawing something false

>>492
Mecha animation is dying out because it is hard to learn for the youngsters today

But why?

Does this milk smell funny to you?

>>495

>Vehicle = mecha at least when it comes to japanese animation.

I guess the same person is in charge of them, but animating a robot is still different from drawing vehicles like traditional military hardware or space ships. It also depends if the mecha/vehicle animation is realistic or stylized.

We won't see anything like Stink Bomb again since rigid and geometric forms are much easier to work with in 3D.

Hunter x Hunter #82 KA:
Hidehiko Sawada
Kazuto Nakazawa

>>497
This generation is to weak according to bahi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8EVhUMXms0

Free's character animation should be solid

>>502
Can't tell much from the PV because it consists of mostly close-up shots.

>>500
Sawada did awesome Killua part.
Kazuto did Kite part?

>>502

Looks really bland. RIP in peace, KyoAni.

>>505

RIP actually means "rest in peace". No clue to add "in peace".

Seems like real Sakuga guys are also dying.  RIP.

>>504
Yes

Online sperm donations

>>497
I think it's because young animator today have little to no interest in how machine works. Yasuo Otsuka spent his childhood drawing trains and cars and Anno also really fond of airplane in his youth.

>>509
Even Miyazaki who is more known for character work, his passion for planes drove him to make Porco Rosso.

>>497
Youngsters today just want to animate flashy scenes.
Flashy mecha animation takes too much time and effort.

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>>512
neato

>>509
And young animatorsnaren't fan of Mecha's (trains, planes, cars etc) nowadays? I don't think that's it.

>>514
Young people these days in general aren't as fascinated by mechanical stuff.

Mecha animation is also a dead end, lol. Not like 2D animation isn't...

>>492
Bullshit.

There is no emotional aspect involved in mecha, you don't have to think about how to move a robot or vehicle based on anything but physics.
Character animation is much, much more rewarding artistically, and good character animation is by far more exciting to watch than good mecha animation. You're only thinking about action scenes, forgetting the unlimited range of possibilities for the artform.

Come at me fuckers.

>>517
Character animation is much, much more rewarding artistically

Explain further

Starting on ep. 9, Attack on Titan added on another series action director to help out: Yuuko Sera. She's worked on ep. 6 and 9.

top lel

>>518
When you think about how to animate a character, there's a lot of stuff to take into account (at least, if you want to be top-game). Not only the context of the story, but the character's personality, the style of acting you're aiming for (literal/theatrical), how the animation style suits that, and more out-there would be cultural influences on both the animator and the character being animated (which the animator should ideally take into account). And well, animating emotions is simply much harder because it requires a higher degree of empathy and understanding than action.

If you want to talk physics only, it would depend on the artstyle. Animating a really detailed design would be infinitely harder than mecha animation simply due to all the bones and muscles moving when someone talks, not only in the face but in the whole body.
Not that anyone in animation would want such a realistic approach to the drawings, but still, generalizing "mecha animation" and "character animation" implies taking into account every style in which those two could be employed.