Animation Appreciation Thread #15

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So in terms of difficulty:

average/shit mechanical animation>average/shit character animation

but

top tier character animation>top tier mecha animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmCv6GX8TEs

dem hands

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10634462

Masaya Fujimori

>>517

Most mecha in anime move with human movements though. It's the one thing most mecha anime bullshit over and that is how two joysticks and some pedals manage to get a robot to move so varyingly. That is because the directors and animators want the robots to move with human like motions. Just take the Evangelion units. Mecha that move with human or even beast like movements.

That requires knowledge of human/character animation as well as being able to draw these large, lumpy mechanical structures.

I'd say:
average/shit character animation > average/shit mechanical animation

I have seen some horrendously drawn monkey scribbles tried to be passed off as mecha animation, it's too hard for the average freelancer who doesn't give a shit. Being a mecha sakkan is also hard since there just so much more to correct compared to a chara sakkan who often only works on correcting character faces.

But
top tier mecha animation  > top tier character animation

Since mecha derives from chara, effect & mecha. Expertise in all areas is required to deliver top notch animation.

Take someone like Yutapon, he was almost exclusively a mecha animator when he first started, now we know him more for his character work. It's because he excelled at mecha that he is great at chara work imo.

well
you can't pilot eva with a pedal and joystick

come on

Anime needs more non-humanoid mecha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJw6noeFbdk

some nice movment running conan there

beware of spoilers

>>527

everything was pretty generic there

yep , but the technique is good on some plans
I mean , okay for the stills image but conan running while the camera is turning around him is pretty impressive.
I love that kind of stuff

>>524

Yutapon isn't a good character animator; he doesn't do ACTING. He is a great action animator, but his animation has no personality. You don't feel the characters through Yutapon animation, you just feel the cool action. Maybe it's just directors always giving him the same kung-fu inspired stuff, but I feel personality in Yutapon's animation. Or rather, I feel Yutapon's personality, but not the character's.

>>530
>I don't feel personality*

Forgot a don't.

Which Japanese animators actually put a lot of thought into their character acting?

>>532
Okiura

>>532

Inoue

Okay, so all the best realist animators?

Okiura, Inoue, Nishio, Honda

Maybe Utsunomiya and Iso as well

>>532
Miyazaki and Ghibli-school animators.
Kigami.

Shinji Otsuka, Osamu Tabane, Iso (when he did that sort of stuff), and yeah, Okiura is pretty good too.

That was my point in >>517. You can't make a mecha emote. I would even argue the reason EVA was so great was that they managed to merge human emotionality with mecha-like beings (always talking about animation), but even then, the EVAs don't even have facial expressions, nor do they engage in anything else that isn't action (meaning they have no body language either).

Using Yutapon as an example only makes me think, again, that you're only thinking about action scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=tZhI2_rN74o

One month to go for the first resl Kill la Kill CM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmmT9Of0Ikk

Ghost in the Shell: Viral Marketing

you can't judge Yutapon not being a character animator if you haven't seen any character acting scene by him.

But honestly I don't care, let him do what he is best at.

According to the employees' claim, they were made to work six-day weeks, and when deadlines were approaching, made to work 7 hours of overtime a day multiple days in a row, then were not paid for their overtime work. Additionally, the employees claim that when they approached the company about the unpaid overtime, the company told them that "in the anime industry we do not pay overtime" and the company cut their salaries.

Being anime staff is suffering

>>542
Where is this from?

>>541
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzim6d_yutaka-nakamura-soul-eater_creation

He did some character animation in Soul Eater, such as at 2:37

>>542
the company told them that "in the anime industry we do not pay overtime" and the company cut their salaries

Man, that's fucked up.

>>542
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-05-17/anime-subcontractor-studio-easter-sued-for-unpaid-overtime

Neat cartoon network animation short http://vimeo.com/67577762

guys , where i can find this anime of 009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC_zVUSaq2k

the song in the beginning is awesome too (0'20 to 2'22)

>>547
It's on Bakabt.

but what's the name of the series ?

>>549

Cyborg 009, a remake of an old tv series released on 2001.

the first episode is very good animation wise. I tried watching it but it was pretty boring. I couldnt get past episode 10 I think. And the 1st one was the only good one.

>>548
>>550
To bad, I searched for this a long time ago
and i found the 1st season, but the 2nd season was never released on DVD from Sony

I watched this series in Arabic channel, and I liked the show
It had some nice animation

Yoh Yoshinari worked in 31 and 46

cool
thanks for the info guys


I watched 009-1 and it was pretty cool (nice ending twist on the characters stories)

Maybe 009 is hated in the west , dunno
me i love them.

What about yuri kuma arashi ?
where i can find the PV (sorry ,it's a bit old but i can't find this shit for some reason)

http://imgur.com/a/DJACd

Flip book

>>552
yuri kuma arashi

There's hardly any info out, and the PV hasn't been uploaded to the internet.

『Paris/Japan Expo scene - Sunday July 7th from 10h45am to 11h30am』 / panel about the anime I worked on The2Queens二人の女王 with exclusive stuff


https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/342243811008860161

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KeYbCPv2cw

http://i.minus.com/ibelA37XdluB3i.gif

PA Works's Uchoten Kazoku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka32O-p_y7c

>>558
Could've done a better job at adapting Kumeta's designs, but it looks acceptable in motion. At least it's something visually different compared to PA's past few shows for once.

>>558

Kumeta designs with more three dimensional framing sure look unusual.