Hello /prog/, mind telling me what's up with all the weirdo on here? I'm not trying to make a value judgment or anything, but it seems that this board is completely full of nothing but crazed racists, idiotic trolls, complete and total failures, cross-dressers, stalkers, autistic shitposters who defy all posting standards, and worst of all, pedophiles. Surely this can't be representative of the programming community as a whole. Why do such people congregate in this place?
crazed racists, idiotic trolls, complete and total failures
That's about four people; Nikita, lel, Mentifex and Terry A. Davis.
cross-dressers, stalkers, autistic shitposters who defy all posting standards
That's the people who are trolling the first group, and occasionally get trolled themselves.
pedophiles
That's actually just one person (unless you count that passerby from last week).
Surely this can't be representative of the programming community as a whole.
You're right, it isn't; the programming community has a lot more utterly clueless morons who know less about programming than Mentifex himself.
Why do such people congregate in this place?
Actually what you see are the people who were left behind. We used to have much better autistic shitposters and EXPERT PROGRAMMERS (often the same people), but most of them left. Get progscrape.py and check out the posts from until about mid-2011.
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Anonymous2013-03-16 21:31
crazed racists, idiotic trolls, complete and total failures, cross-dressers, stalkers, autistic shitposters who defy all posting standards, and worst of all, pedophiles. Surely this can't be representative of the programming community as a whole.
Don't worry. Once rms is dead the programming community will have a lot less of all of those.
>>5 rms is just a pedophile. You're thinking of esr.
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Anonymous2013-03-16 21:34
Everyone here has been kicked out of everywhere else. The only reason we can act like we do here is because there is no moderation. There is no moderation because we can't really do anything too legal, so moot let's us have our little quarantine.
Believe it or not, all of 4chan used to be filled with people like us; it was very fun times. You can blame (or you can thank) Chanology and ``Anonymous (the `hacking group')'' for changing that.
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Anonymous2013-03-16 21:39
>>4 That's actually just one person (unless you count that passerby from last week).
We've been through this, there are at least three.
Also there is the weed guys, which I think there are at least two of. That brings us a total of at least eleven discernible persona.
>>6 rms is also a complete and total failure, a cross-dresser, a stalker, and very autistic. esr and rms both kicking the bucket would probably rip a hole in the fabric of space and time with the amount of autism and pedophilia being destroyed all at once.
>>1 Why do such people congregate in this place?
They were banned from all normal places, like github, reddit, /g/ and stackoverflow. /prgo/ is just the place to keep them contained, else all these racist pedophiles will go to the streets crossdressed and rape some underage nigger.
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Anonymous2013-03-16 22:46
Nope, this is pretty representative of programmers. If you want someone with a shred of decency or self respect then you can come over to the fair lands of /comp/ where we Computer Scientists reside.
See what I mean, >>1 OP? Just look at the pathetic specimen that posted as >>14. At what point would a man simply give up on everything and waste his life posting that? The very definition of lunatic failure. Probably a racist pedophile too! These programmer people are all such morons except for a select few that are all dead.
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Anonymous2013-03-17 0:23
THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT
THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT THE FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT
>>1
Misery loves company. This place is full of fucked up losers, where they fit in, in their own way. We used to be mostly of the functioning kind, but the dregs of the programming community have congregated on this website, as we are beginning to receive leakage for fucking Usenet from all places.
The programming community is still full of misogynists and cryptoracists, though, just peruse any Hacker News thread vaguely pertaining to race or gender issues and you'll see the most obtuse idiots trotting out some ``science'' (cheap speculation using scientific-sounding words) to justify their contempt.
On the sexual fetishes and paraphilias, well, it's because of the same reason you get the likes of Nikita here: there's no moderation as long as we don't start sharing CP.
Robert : "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ALL MY STUFF IS CHEWED UP AND SPITTY..."
Dog : "JUST LOOKING FOR FOOD."
Robert : "WOULDN'T YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK WITH THAT IN THE KITCHEN?"
Dog : "HA HA! YOU'D THINK SO, WOULDN'T YOU ?
HOWEVER, MY RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT 15% OF WHAT I PUT INTO MY MOUTH IN THE KITCHEN IS FOOD, COMPARED TO 11% IN THE GENERAL HOUSEHOLD. SO WITH A MARGIN OF ERROR OF +/- 4%, I CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS."
Robert : "YOU MEAN YOU'RE PUTTING EVERYTHING IN YOUR MOUTH TO SEE IF IT'S FOOD?"
Dog : "IF YOU KNOW A BETTER WAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT."
Robert : "WELL, YOU COULD TRY READING THE...DUDE....WHERE ARE MY SEAT CUSHIONS?"
Dog : "INTERESTINGLY, WHILE ONLY 11% OF OBJECT ARE "FOOD," 35% ARE, IN FACT "EDIBLE.""
Generally, the more "average" your IQ, the less "abnormal" you are.
There's a high correlation between high intelligence and the presence of various mental “disorders”.
This too. Programmers are relative intelligent. This correlates to relative fucked-up. I had a girlfriend, that was a police officer and she always told, that the intelligent did the most fucked-up things.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 9:33
>>30 and she always told, that
You must be a very normal individual.
HIGH INTELLIGENCE IS NOW PROBABLE CAUSE FOR A WARRANT.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 9:39
>>30
what the hell are you doing dating a police officer
Yes, it is. With some simple psychology experiments, you can demonstrate that an intelligent person will handle in its own best interest even if it cause an unreasonable amount of suffering to somebody else.
There is one beast which shares this treat. It is the psychopath. The intelligentsia are all secondary psychopaths. They have the ability to rationalize the suffering of others away.
Pigs do dirty things. Power hungry pigs will do dark things. Power hungry pigs, which are enforced by society, will do the darkest. I am into sadists. Female sadists are difficult to find, if you exclude the "force".
>>30 and now look what you've done, you know that contact with bacon is against >>31-san's religion.
OP discovered /prog/, thought it was a secret kewl base and then realised it's not what he expected, news at 11.
OP will then go to /q/ to whine to yours truly about the whole ordeal.
OP will then go back to where he came from, which causes considerable pain to his mother as his head is a lot bigger than the other appendage he last touched her uterus with.
The sun will rise.
In a distant sea, pointers ebb and flow as a shower of parens glistens in the light of LISP.
Mary sits with her little lambda, gently recursing.
It's what the majority thinks. You are intelligent, then you are dangerous or at least sly. It's who police officers are trained, intelligent people you cannot trust.
You can close your eyes and think, that doesn't apply to me. Or lose the naivety and try to merge it with your model of reality.
I have children mostly you get these by a girlfriend.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 12:24
>>33 With simple psychology experiments
Sure, if you make a ``normal'' idiot interpret the results, I'm sure you can convince them it's a good idea do warrantless searches on intelligent people because the study clearly shows a positive correlation between the two and WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 12:31
>>40
Then the majority is fucking retarded. Considering the number of hours of TV (and the quality of the programming on said TV) they watch everyday, that is most unsurprising.
then you are dangerous or at least sly.
In the sense that I will not allow myself to be walked over by idiots like you and your pig girlfriend, sure, I am dangerous to your sense of authority. In the sense that I will oppose immoral or illegal measures from being taken by governments or individuals, sure, I am at least a mere annoyance to those who wish to commit such acts. But I wouldn't allow myself to harm another being in that process, nor would I allow myself to gamble with possible harm to another being; otherwise I would just be as bad as them.
Yes, that is what "everybody" believes and can and will be shown with some shitty statistics. Intelligence is not a crime, but it will load more suspicion on you. It doesn't matter you think these people are idiot, because they proved you are a dangerous individual, which will do anything to advance himself. These idiots hate you.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 12:34
>>43
The correlation between psychopathy and intelligence is less pronounced than the correlation between wealth and psychopathy. Start doing warrantless spying on them rich motherfuckers, sheeple.
Scientists now this. Politicians do their best to not know this. And who pays the politicians?
You are the sheeple.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 12:43
>>45
No, you are the fucktard, because you are willing to nullify an innocent's rights without real cause (and no, statistics does not qualify). The real solutions is an income/ownership cap (something really high, but still acceptable, say 500,000 USD/month, with maximum ownership of 5,000,000 USD/month).
Your plan fails, because you need an authority to police, which can be corrupted.
Anyways, I am not the one, who wants to nullify other people rights. I just wanted to date a police officer. But at the at those really high rates I probably am corruptible.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 13:17
Don't kid yourself that a little tyranny isn't necessary. A strong centralized government is the only reason why modern civilization is possible. The government and facebook doesn't need to spy on people, the people need the government and facebook to spy on them and keep them honest. In the past, this function was fulfilled by an omnipotent, omnipresent sky-monster that watched everyone and would smite them forever if they stepped out of line. That came with far too much baggage however and needs to go. Nothing even has to be acted on, people just need to know that it exists. People post about smoking weed on facebook all the time and there is no action taken. All that favoritism that the government shows industry results directly in greater standard of living (though perhaps not quality of life) for every factory built or every loan given.
The people in charge don’t want to see you fail. Why would they even care? That’s ridiculous. You having more money means more tax revenue and more money for you spend. This is always a good thing. They also don’t care that you are pissed off about politics until you start talking about making bombs. People talk shit about authority all the time to make themselves feel better. Even little kids will talk bad about the schoolyard bully when he isn’t there. It’s natural and a good release. Don’t worry about wiretapping. Rest assured that nobody cares about you. Your life is not that interesting.
`Liberty' (in the sense that you use it) is an anomaly in human history. Even all the times that people claim are a model of small government, people would still be hanged for stealing a tomato. There is no such thing as `social justice' and there never was. There is a reason that uneducated shithole places like Africa, the middle eastern countries, eastern Europe, etc have to have dictators: because they simply cannot accept the idea of not being forced to do something. Consider Egypt. They get democracy and the first thing they do is elect a theocracy. Democracy in Iraq or Afghanistan? That will NEVER happen, simply because without a strong man to force them to get along, those idiots will go crazy until someone does force them to get along (even if it's just so they can attack some other, weaker group).
Do you really think that most people need true freedom anyway? Perhaps scientists or artists, but give a poor black youth the opportunity to do whatever he wishes and he is going to go join a gang and be killed at age 19 because he thinks it's cool. And that is exactly what they do. They need a strong authority figure to keep them from getting themselves killed. Same with softer forms of miscreantism: if you take the average coal miner and give him everything he needs in life, he's going to drink himself to death in a month. They simply can't handle the freedom that comes with freedom. Shit, look at all the bitches and assholes who will refuse to work simply to spite their own offspring (because the court can't garnish wages that don't exist).
You complain that things are this way without realizing that things are this way for a reason: IT FUCKING WORKS. A few minor problems here and there are no trouble. Do you get mad at drivers simply because a few oil workers were killed in a pipeline explosion? Do you get mad at people who use electronics because the gold in them was probably mined by what is functionally a slave? Feel free to walk away from Omelas, faggot. You are not going to change this system from within. Why? Because the entire system is built to maximize stability. Notice what the police motto is protect and serve "Uphold law and order". Order. That's what this is about. The order can never be lost. The power can shift a bit over time and even change the ruling party, but if the people are allowed too much order will fall and all of civilization will follow.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 13:39
>>49 FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER, DIE IN A FIRE YOU FASCIST AUTHORITARIAN PIECE OF SHIT.
>>50
Stunning counterargument. Typical of the resident French board retard to make me waste thirty minutes of my time to write out an argument when he's just going to start foaming at the mouth in anger and calls names.
>>49 `Liberty' (in the sense that you use it) is an anomaly in human history.
For 99.999% of human history there was no civilization or government. That was true liberty.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 13:52
>>50
You seem to loose it a bit, but it was reality knocking on your door there. Wake up, Neo, your *ism wil never happen.
>>53
Do you actually want me to explain to you how civil rights work and why they exist and why they are the same for everyone and why privacy is important and get in a dispute on whether it's okay to hurt the innocent for the ``common good'' and then get in an argument on whether restricting one's freedom is hurting them and what ``common good'' even means and so on for a few hundred posts.
Or I could just call you what you are, an authoritarian piece of shit, and go on and keep working on subverting idiots like yourself who also happen to have a bit of power or money in their hands.
The government's role, like that of every entity, is to perpetuate itself. Its main survival advantage is massive military force and unlimited allegiance of the populace.
Maybe you should go to your 9/11 celebration. Liberal fuck up.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:06
>>56
Perhaps I am an authoritarian. It would be better to have this on a more cultural level, but a strong government can substitute. What is wrong authoritarianism on a fundamental (that means don't cite North Korea as the typical of socialism) level, so long as it promotes the good of society and technological progress, while still minimalizes pain?
>>57
How many things do you do that are of your own free will, and are not things that you do because you were at one point told to do (like not to stick your dick in a toster by your father at age 10), or `suggested' to you to do (advertisements, things for etiquette), do you do?
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:07
But let's reiterate. You will not win, because the rich don't accept your liberal views. The politicians are afraid of them and do what they will. You know this, because you started tripping.
The good news is, that nobody really cares, so you will keep your freedom of speech. Whatever the fuck that means.
>>59
I don't have anything against weed. I'm high right now, in fact, It was an attempt to guide society that failed and was stupid to begin with. I think any law beyond the basic No murder types should be revisited every period of time.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:13
>>65
North Korea does promote tech progress, if you compare it to African states. NK also managed to produce nuclear weapon, despite having no science traditions, compared to Jews, who did tech for USA, Europe and USSR.
>>72
Where their mothers side is probably Jewish. And as you know, Jewishness is a mothers sin. There is reasonable doubt here. I think we may consider Nikita a Jew.
Ooh, Benito is turning against Nikita Sadkike. Interesting.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:29
Jewishness is a blessing.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:35
>>75
No, this is NOT a trivial issue. The mothers bloodline define the Jew. OV points that there is Jew blood on the mothers side. This is all serious. SadkOV is probably a Jew. He is always dismissive about these allegations. He should deal with them now. Saying: I am not a Jew is not enough.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:37
>>74
Me? The authoritarian? I'm not Benito. Sorry. He's full of shit and doesn't know a god damn thing about economics.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:38
>>76
How can I be a Jew, when I call to kill all Jews and nationalize their capitals?
I'm also unemployed and have no education.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:38
>>77
No you are not Benito. You are a fascist too though. Do you like the jews?
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:40
>>78
The Jew is sly and will never shows it real face. They are also trained in rhetorics. So the real question is, how can you not be the Jew?
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:40
>>79
I do not care about race at all. I'm not fascist though. Autocratic would be a closer, where the people obey the law more out of respect than fear.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:41
>>80
How can I be a Jew, when I call to kill all Jews and nationalize their capitals?
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:42
>>81 I dont discern between Jews and non-Jews
Shalom, Hymie!
Respect, love and fear are all faces of the same medal. You should read Machiavelli. I think you would like it. He describes autocratic style governance quite well.
>>83
See, this is my example that the state doesn't care. Nikita can spew his hateful, racist garbage and no one cares, because he is a worthless failure and will never have the guts to do any real damage anyway. If he starts posting his plans to kill jews, then he will become a problem and maybe get popped, if he were deemed a credible threat. Is that really such a terrible intrusion?
But then it makes sense, that the state is more interested in the more intelligent individuals.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:50
>>84
I have read The Prince. It's overdone to the point of absurdity. It's philosopher kings, in a semi-republican autocracy at the center.
Respect, love and fear are all faces of the same medal.
You are now straying into a totally different argument. I decline.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:50
>>86
My only plan is that all people of the earth must act locally and think globally. I.e. If a Jew drowning - dont help him. If Jew isn't drowning - help him to drown. If you work at restaurant, spit into the meal of Jewish client. If you work at you work at reservations, make sure Jew wont get his place reserved and losts a lot of time.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:52
If you work at business owned by a Jew - sabotage it.
>>88
People who tend to be be troublemakers may be intelligent, or they could be stupid.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 14:53
>>90
We should do the same thing with niggers, Americans and Indians. If Nigger isn't drowning, help him to drown. That would dramatically improve our life quality.
>>86
Sure it is. It creates a toxic atmosphere and drives away people who might be interesting to talk to on more constructive terms. People like Nikita are walking tragedies of the commons; they're pissing in public swimming pools.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 15:04
It's not a toxic atmosphere, it is the natural state of things. As I said, you can currently say more than ever before and it is an anomaly in human history.
But it is bad in a way, he changed it into a book for children. "Ruling for dummies" he could have called it. He simplified it till a king could understand it. His foreword is basically a slap in the face of Lorenzo Di Piero De' Medici.
>>100
Plants regularly participate in chemical warfare against each other, and that's perfectly "natural." You are a barbarian for thinking that natural is automatically good.
the reason the government doesn't do shit about the weed smokers on facebook is because doing so would immediately force everyone to distrust the site and move on to greener pastures. that is not a wanted outcome since they are getting valuable intelligence off facebook anyway.
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Anonymous2013-03-18 17:31
>nigger kids end up being gang members
>mandating harsher punishment and civil rights violations
>not tackling the underlying socioeconomical issues
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Anonymous2013-03-18 17:38
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