there's no drivers. even if there is you have to compile them
middle click and anything beyond it like extra mouse buttons is all fucked up
if you want to do anything beyond word processing, it's all text based shit, I though we evolved past that with guis and the mouse
sound is fucked up
why do you have to have a password and and file permission shit. this isn't a server
no codecs
sucks with flash and any other embeded content(including java)
when a program crashes you have to restart xorg when you dont find it in top.
linux's server-like shit bugs me. it's like a big hack job so you can run it all on one computer
it boots slow. vista is faster then this shit
>>1
Opera sucks sure there's an ebuild for opera but it just get dropped to /opt, it's statically linked, and it's CLOSED SOURCE, which means that it is a BINARY package.
Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.
Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".
Linux zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Linux configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of Windows configuration issues. Example comments:
User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Linux?"
Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Ubuntu, you have to download quake_4_dapper_i686_010207_glibc.bin, then do chmod +x on the file. Then you have to su to root, make sure you type export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 but ONLY if you have that latest libc6 installed. If you don't, don't set that environment variable or the installer will dump core. Before you run the installer, make sure you have the GL drivers for X installed. Get them at [some obscure web address], chmod +x the binary, then run it, but make sure you have at least 10MB free in /tmp or the installer will dump core. After the installer is done, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add a section called "GL" and put "driver nv" in it. Make sure you have the latest version of X.org and Linux kernel 2.6 or else X will segfault when you start. OK, run the Quake 4 installer and make sure you set the proper group and setuid permissions on quake4.bin. If you want sound, look here [link to another obscure web site], which is a short HOWTO on how to get sound in Quake 4. That's all there is to it!"
User: "How do I get Quake 4 to run in Windows?"
Zealot: "Oh God, I had to install Quake 4 in Windoze for some lamer friend of mine! God, what a fucking mess! I put in the CD and it took about 3 minutes to copy everything, and then I had to reboot the fucking computer! Jesus Christ! What a retarded operating system!"
So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what seems easy and natural to Linux geeks is definitely not what regular people consider easy and natural. Hence, the preference towards Windows.
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Anonymous2009-01-03 19:59
there's no drivers. even if there is you have to compile them
True; driver situation is still fucked. You're OK if you have a popular piece of hardware but otherwise, enjoy your ./configure errors. middle click and anything beyond it like extra mouse buttons is all fucked up
Pretty much true; X is a train wreck for this sort of shit. if you want to do anything beyond word processing, it's all text based shit, I though we evolved past that with guis and the mouse
True, even with current distros, setting up stuff like PPPoE is a huge pain in the ass. sound is fucked up
One word: ALSA/OSS/ESD/fag/fag/fag why do you have to have a password and and file permission shit. this isn't a server
Ok, this is retarded no codecs
True, try playing mp3s sucks with flash and any other embeded content(including java)
True, flash does suck on Linux when a program crashes you have to restart xorg when you dont find it in top.
wat linux's server-like shit bugs me. it's like a big hack job so you can run it all on one computer
Maybe he's talking about X here, in which case he's right. it boots slow. vista is faster then this shit
???
middle click and anything beyond it like extra mouse buttons is all fucked up
I have a 9-button mouse. From a fresh install, I could click the side buttons and firefox was flipping back/forward pages, and tilting the wheel did a horiz scroll in every app I tested.
I'm not sure what shitty mid-90s distro you're using, but it doesn't seem fucked up to me at all.
no codecs mp3s
Again -- out of the box, I was able to play mp3s. Stop using shitty distros.
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Anonymous2009-01-03 20:21
Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".
YES BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE TO ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD THE SETUP BEFORE YOU CLICK THE BUTAN RIGHT DURRRR. WELL WITH THE ADVANCED PACKAGING TOOL YOU DONT BITCH IT FETCHES YOU ALL YOU NEED ALL DEPENDENCIES AND ALL.
FOOL.
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Anonymous2009-01-03 20:24
>>7
Really, Xarn? Please tell me what distro you are using, because evidently it comes with nonfreeTM codecs.
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Anonymous2009-01-03 20:32
Actually, linux comes with MORE drivers than XP or vista these days. If you install a good linux distro, all the drivers you need are included with the kernel or are automatically loaded. Contrast that with doing a fresh install of vista on a recent machine-- first you have to go to all the different hardware vendors' sites to get drivers, then you hope that it all works on vista without blue screening.
Linux has all the codecs you could want-- you just can't figure out how to install them or where to find them because you're a faggot who is too proud to ask for help and covers up his insecurity with attacks.
Boot time easily improved to < 10 seconds if you know how to disable startup services. My soekris boots in about 300 milliseconds.
Linux was the first (and currently only) platform with 64-bit flash 10. Windows users can't even run a true 64-bit browser (in fact, most applications on a 64bit windows system are running in 32 bit emulation, and thus wasting hardware).
Furthermore, Unix permissions and user management are much simpler than on windows. You only need two files, /etc/group and /etc/passwd (as well as the shadow file), for user/group management, and three numbers you have to understand for permissions. Of course you can get as complicated as you like with ACL's and selinux for permissions, ldap or nis for user management, but unix gives you that flexibity to choose.
And the reason why you're mad at linux's underlying text based nature is that you really can't think for yourself. After all, a GUI is really a means of limiting what the user does. If a window has two buttons, "OK" or "cancel", it's the gui designer's way of telling you that you are too stupid for other, more advanced options. The GUI designer designs his GUI's for people stupider than himself.
Its clearly evident that vista is the future.One only has to watch TV for a short period of time and see the advertising.
WOW !!
I personally love the part where the young man is taking a stroll in the delightful snow covered streets, and sees firsthand a young deer with a gleefull glint in its eye. It sends a shiver down my spine. WOW is all I can say.
Vista is clearly the future of enterprise computing.
Boot time easily improved to < 10 seconds if you know how to disable startup services. My soekris boots in about 300 milliseconds.
and then you can't do shit until you start the services later anyways.
Linux was the first (and currently only) platform with 64-bit flash 10. Windows users can't even run a true 64-bit browser (in fact, most applications on a 64bit windows system are running in 32 bit emulation, and thus wasting hardware).
That's like saying the blue shit is better then brown shit because it's blue and stinks more.
Furthermore, Unix permissions and user management are much simpler than on windows. You only need two files, /etc/group and /etc/passwd (as well as the shadow file), for user/group management, and three numbers you have to understand for permissions. Of course you can get as complicated as you like with ACL's and selinux for permissions, ldap or nis for user management, but unix gives you that flexibility to choose.
yeah. simple.
And the reason why you're mad at linux's underlying text based nature is that you really can't think for yourself. After all, a GUI is really a means of limiting what the user does. If a window has two buttons, "OK" or "cancel", it's the gui designer's way of telling you that you are too stupid for other, more advanced options. The GUI designer designs his GUI's for people stupider than himself.
How ignorant can you be. Thinking is different then memorizing dozens of program names and flags. It's more intuitive to click the icon that says email then to type in an array of program names and flags. We're not in the 80's anymore. Have fun with lynx.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 0:50
It's more intuitive
That's debatable in the first place, but what kind of moron cares about "intuitive" when they're going to do it daily?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:04
>>26
The kind of moron that's being trained to do it. Oh.
>>10
"Good distro" is certainly the key there. I installed Mandriva Free and it was like LOL U HAS TO PAY TO HAS WIRELESS DRIVAR. Do your research, kiddies.
>>25
If there's any reason to hate Linux's GUI features, it's the fact that they're way, way too bloated for anything practical. KDE, Gnome, and Xfce all look TERRIBLE with their default themes.
There's a reason I still use Windows, and while it is partially due to the command line stuff in Linux, it's mostly because the GUI doesn't look like total ass.
inb4 Luna/Aero, I don't like those either. Windows Classic is the theme I use with a slightly darker gray than default (192,192,192, I believe).
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:10
>>27
192,192,192 being the default, I use 162,162,162.
>>5
Also I just read this post and while a fair portion of that is true, a lot is exaggerated to make your point. Compiling and complicated command parameters do scare away casuals.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:14
>>25
With recent advances in linux and its GUI, especially GNOME and Ubuntu, you can have that same no-comprehension interface that windows has, without the same bugginess, and the ability to run more quickly on older hardware. I installed ubuntu on a chick from Philly's pc which was freezing while running Vista, and she's been absolutely fine. It's perfect for the 60-70% of the market that just emails and browses facebook, they just don't know about it. As for drivers and such, it only took me about 2 hours to get that chick's HP up and running fine.
>>27 The kind of moron that's being trained to do it. Oh.
Well... that's an answer. What I really meant was to ask "why do you care about what seems 'intuitive' to you when it's going to be natural in couple of days anyway", while additionally implying that you are a dumb. Maybe if I'd provided a clickable answer you would have done better.
But let's look at it this way: if I want to run Emacs (which I assure you I do), what's more intuitive? Saying what I want, or hunting it down then poking at it?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:43
>>37
why would you want to run emacs when you already have a real operating system, one which doesn't lack a decent editor?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:45
why would you want to run an operating system when you already have emacs?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 1:49
>>38
And which editor is that? Visual Studio isn't free, and certainly doesn't come with Windows. And please, don't say notepad. Gedit has the same functionality, as well as syntax highlighting, and geany and others exist for those who want line completion and other more advanced features, all for free. OpenOffice also comes with most distros, so don't give me that bs, either. So far, the only argument I've seen is "I'm lazy and don't want to take the time to streamline and learn Linux".
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:13
RMS can suck my balls.
As long as I live I'll never use GPL'd software. Even if I didn't wholeheartedly disagree with their entire philosophy, I still wouldn't use it, if not for the simple fact that almost all GPL'd code is shite.
Thousands of monkeys who aren't good enough to get jobs where they get paid to write code are the people making GPL software. Yeah, they're so bad at code that they decide to write it for free. And of course there's no such thing as standards, or design. It's entirely "Hack it until it works!". You have 50,000 subpar programmers each hacking the application to put their little pet features into it.
Face it guys, it's never going to work in the long run. The only reason it's gotten this far is simply because you have thousands of monkeys working on it at once, simply to make up for the fact that it takes 50x longer to do anything in GPL'd software than in properly architected designs.
Think about this. Why does Open Office suck so badly? Because word processing is BORING as hell. NO ONE wakes up and says "OH BOY! I THINK I'LL MAKE A WORD PROCESSOR TODAY!". The ONLY motivation an OO developer has is "I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL MICROSOFT TODAY. CRY HAVOK AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR. YOU WILL RUE THE DAY YOU EVER MADE SOFTWARE, MICRO$OFT! YES! I USED A DOLLAR SIGN INSTEAD OF AN 'S', SEE HOW CLEVERLY CLEVER I AM?! YOU ARE NO MATCH FOR MY WITS, BILL GATES!!!!". So you get a whole bunch of loonies, working for free, whose only purpose is to piss off Microsoft, and none of them can possibly say they actually enjoy what they're working on.
Meanwhile, Microsoft is out there going "Gosh, we need money. Let's make some new features. And pay our devs money, because hey, no one would possibly be dumb enough to want to make a word processor for free.".
I so totally forgot where I was going with this. Bottom line, Fuck RMS. Fuck him up his stupid ass.
>>37
It's cute when you get your first trolling kit, but try not to make it so obvious. You'll be out of diapers soon, big guy.
I don't see how a commandline where you have to go out of your way to learn all the options is more intuitive than having all of your options presented to you. I guess we all just can't keep up with your massive brain, diaper-wearing overlord.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:26
>>40
are you honestly telling me you've never heard of ed?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:27
>>41
Sun pays people for OOo development, not that that makes it suck any less but it does throw a wrench into your little rant.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:34
>>42 IM BEEN TROLT!
Nice try, guy. It's more intuitive because if you're looking to do something, you probably know what it is, right? Otherwise you wouldn't be looking to do it. So what do you want to do? Type it and be done, or hunt through endless menus and rows of cryptic icons whose use is not necessarilly clear?
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:39
Visual Studio isn't free,
wat
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Anonymous2009-01-04 2:53
It's really about low self esteem. Most of you anti-linux windows users on this thread are probably considered by your parents and friends to be 'savvy' with computers. You can overclock your cpu, upgrade your ram, install games, etc.
So, one day you hear about linux and decide to give it a try. You should be able to handle it, because you're they guy that mom comes to when her windows machine breaks. Maybe the install goes well, and you feel pretty good about yourself. Then you run into some simple problem. Maybe you can't figure out how to install software because download.com doesn't have a linux section. You can install software on windows, you can't on linux, so you're driven to the conclusion that linux is inferior, ignoring the fact you've been windows for a decade or more and linux only for a few hours/days.
But it's not just that you can't learn, or handle change-- you can't handle the fact that there's an entire group of individuals who are better at computers than you are.
They understand the hardware better, they understand the basic principles of computer science better, they know how networks work better than you. They understand the pros and cons of filesystems (including ntfs) because on linux, you get to choose FS's; they understand the principles behind operating system design because they run into phrases like "microkernel" and "monolithic kernels"; they can probably program, too, since learning a scripting language vastly improves productivity on linux (and this really pisses you off, since programming was one thing you always failed at on windows.) Oh, and they probably know windows better than you, since most advanced linux users these days are ex-windows users who managed to learn linux years ago, when it was much less user friendly.
At this point, a confident individual would admit to himself he has a lot to learn about linux and computers in general. But since you lack the self esteem to do that, you run back to windows, install farcry (or whatever) and keep repeating to yourself "at least I can run games. at least I can run games."
If you're looking for a job, all this hits you even harder, because you realize a lot of the jobs require linux in one way or another. Even many of the windows related jobs recommend linux! At this point, you rationalize "well the only thing I know is windows, so I must be a windows expert!" as if knowing only one thing makes you an automatic expert, or that learning linux forces you to forget windows entirely.
Then you find out, you didn't know windows that well, either. Active Directory? Group Policy? Kerberos? What's that? So what now? You're out of school, you thought you were a hotshot because you were able to reinstall norton antivirus on your mom's computer, and you suddenly realize: that same unwillingness to learn linux has basically pigeonholed you into a low-level windows help desk position! You end up all pissed off because you spend all day changing toner cartridges, clicking on icons you've clicked on thousands of times before, and rebooting unpatched windows xp machines for secretaries and data entry people (who hate your guts btw).
>>48
and when you can't handle someone telling you that "you're no good" at the only thing you can take pride in, you result to one line insults. you hope people won't take 2 seconds to use google and find out it's not kopipe.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 3:38
>>49
I took that to mean precious future kopipe. And I agree.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 3:45
>>1
yes,
this is why BSD is superior & always will be
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Anonymous2009-01-04 3:47
>>49
I'm currently waiting for somebody else to refute your post. Please bear with me
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Anonymous2009-01-04 4:02
>>45
[QUOTE]It's more intuitive because if you're looking to do something, you probably know what it is, right? Otherwise you wouldn't be looking to do it. So what do you want to do? Type it and be done, or hunt through endless menus and rows of cryptic icons whose use is not necessarilly clear?[/QUOTE]That might work fine for simple stuff, but lots of needs are complicated. You only know the features of programs that are documented.
In the case of command line, you have potentially large pages of information as complexity increases. You must take the time out to read all the options, sometimes you have to scan through multiple pages just to find one switch.
In the case of an effective GUI, all the options are clearly labeled with no iconic shortcuts (This has been around for ever in Microsoft products, I think it's a pretty shitty mechanism myself). Saying that the icons are all cryptic is trolling at best. With the GUI, you require no additional documentation because your options are seen in a quick and effective manner.
For example, command line commits are a fucking pain in the ass for SVN. With Tortoise, I can right click the local repository, click commit, check the files I want instead of having to command line the bitches, add my message in a nice box, and then hit OK. And it does the rest for me.
The fact that I'd have to write a script to do that using command line and it wouldn't be as effective because of the ambiguous nature of changed files WITHOUT A GUI means that productivity goes way down when you use the command line in this instance.
As your needs grow in complexity, so do the command line responses unless you write programs to whisk away control from you, which is the point of the command line in the first place, isn't it?
>>47
I'm exactly like that except I figured out about the software and installing programs and learning command line operations. Linux still sucks though for a home OS.
Linux is just too advanced for most people. The concept of having control over their computer overwhelms them to the point of hating it. Thus, people stick with Windows and simply expect to reinstall at least once a year.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 12:20
>>69
Dark days are over, you can control windows too now.
And its graphical subsystem is not slow as fuck or ugly as hell.
And you can run games without having to fuck around with wine.
Stupid/lazy people can use linux once it has been set up for them.
Smart/interested people can both set up and use linux (better than windows).
As for all those complaining about lack of GUI, take a second look; there are plenty of GUI solutions for linux, including graphical installers, graphical theming applications, music players, word processors, ftp and ssh applications, etc. If you're to lazy to learn command line, your shiny buttons are right there, ready to be themed to your heart's content.
>>73
This is what Linux users actually believe. God forbid that people as smart as you choose Windows. Clearly, everyone that chooses Windows is inferior. Smart people also use the correct form of "to" in sentences such as "If you're to lazy to learn [...]"
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Anonymous2009-01-04 19:26
>>53
I sense we have a metatrolling CLIfag on our hands.
With the GUI, you require no additional documentation because your options are seen in a quick and effective manner.
No one who uses a lot of GUI programs could say this with a straight face. Regular people can't even figure out how to save files in MS Office.
As your needs grow in complexity, so do the command line responses unless you write programs to whisk away control from you, which is the point of the command line in the first place, isn't it?
Correct. In a GUI, all tasks are performed by hand in a "what you do is what you get" fashion. At the command line, you request that a task be performed and it is performed. The point of a command-line interface is to let the computer do the hard work.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 20:04
>The point of a command-line interface is to let the computer do the hard work.
No the point of a CLI is so the programmer can do as little work as possible.
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Anonymous2009-01-04 20:05
If you're to lazy to learn command line, your shiny buttons are right there, ready to be themed to your heart's content.
This is what Lunix users actually believe.
The point of command line is(regardless of what people want it to be). is execute rarely used console apps with many options.
If there is for example:
you have to write consoleapp -a -b -c -tnumber
everytime you use some function this should be instead a
program which does exactly what "consoleapp -a -b -c -tnumber " does
and preferably without invoking typing its name at all(click-run).
To understand what this means consider:
Linux way :
function complexconsoleapp(a,b,c,d,e,f){
process_arguments();
switch_to_subroutine();
return result;
}
Windows way:
function app(){
arguments=[a,b,c,d,e,f];
call complexlibrary(arguments);
return result;
}
Which one is more efficient and which one is more prone to errors?
-INSANE-PRIEST--INSANE-PRIEST--INSAN
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N______,;~'_____________'~;,_______N fucking
S____,;____LINUX FUCKING____;,_____S sucks
A___;___SUCKS, YOU FUCKING____;____A
N__,'____SLASHDOT RETARDS.____',___N Rob Malda
E_,;___GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD___;,__E is a
-_;_;______._____l_____.______;_;__- cocksucker
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R_l__`/~"_____~"_._"~_____"~\'__l__R Slashdot
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T__.~__(__,.--"_.^._"--.,__)__~.___T Rob Malda
-__l_____---;'_/_l_\_`;---_____l___- is a
-___\__._______V.^.V___((oo))./____- cocksucker
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S_____I_l`IIII_I_I_I_IIIIll_I__o___S lameness
A_O___I__\,III_I_I_I_III,ll_I______A filters,
N______\___`----------'__ll/____o__N will
E____O___\___._______.___ll________E this
-_________\..___^____../(_l___O____- ever
P_________/_^___^___^_/__ll\_______P fucking
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I_______;_`'=l l_l l='__/ll_l______I
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S_______l\___\ l_l l__;__ll_l__O___S was good
T__o____l_\___ll=l l==\__ll_l______T in bed, she
-____o__l_/\_/\l_l l__l`-ll_/______- grunts like
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N____O____l__l+l_l+l__l__ll___O____N Rob Malda
S_________l__"""_"""__l__ll________S is a
A__O______l____o_o____l__ll____O___A cocksucker
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Anonymous2009-01-05 22:23
>>38
cowsay -f rms fuck you emacs is a masterpiece
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Anonymous2009-01-06 1:45
>86
dude ur hardc0re
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FrozenVoid!FrOzEn2BUo2009-01-06 7:04
>>85
I'm an Expert programmer,however my expertise is confined to JavaScript. I can't blame it. Its very user-friendly language and i would be hard-pressed to switch to C or Java when it answers all my needs.
When a strict Linux nut tries to promote how the mastery of using a terminal excels them above a Windows user, I ask them if they "use Linux because it gives them the illusion of accomplishment for effort expended?"
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Anonymous2009-12-10 15:04
My father was a strict linux nut. He sent me to bed once with no dinner because I hadn't read my Linux In A Nutshell
>>101
Look on the positive side. In my house, not reading your SICP is punishable by ignorance anda good old fashioned raping.
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Anonymous2009-12-10 18:48
BSD WAS HERE,
LINUX IS LOSER
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Anonymous2009-12-10 18:49
Example of fucked up gui: MS Exchange in Small Business Server 2003.
Try and set up automatic email forwarding to an outside email address. This is email so you clicky the Exchange stuff. You find the user. You find the properties page. You see a text field asking you for an email address to forward stuff to. It's greyed out; inactive. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE IT ACTIVE?
You don't. You add a fake contact in Active Directory, and set the real contact to forward to the fake contact.
INTUITIVE GUI IN ACTION.
(Oh, and thanks to our tech support for setting 3d screensavers ON THE SERVER.)
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Anonymous2009-12-10 19:30
>>104
APT WAS HERE,
PORTS ARE SHIT AND BINARIES ARE OUT OF DATE
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Anonymous2009-12-10 19:35
>>106
RIMMUS WAS HERE,
YEAH, YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY FAT HAIRY COCK DON'T YOU, BITCH?
>>105
Most people don't use Microsoft for servers unless they want to use stuff like .NET or Active Directory.
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Anonymous2009-12-10 20:21
>>108
No one would use Linux servers if MS servers didn't cost extra money.
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Anonymous2009-12-10 20:53
>>107 >>106 WAS HERE,
ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT RIMMUS WROTE APT OR ANY PACKAGE MANAGEMENT APPLICATION?
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Anonymous2009-12-10 22:18
>>110 >>107 WAS HERE,
NO BUT I'M SUGGESTING THAT RIMMUS IS THE SELF PROCLAIMED JESUS AND EMPEROR OF ALL GNOO SOFTWARES, AND THAT THE ACT OF LICENSING SOMETHING UNDER HIS GNOO IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO FELLATE HIM.
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Anonymous2009-12-10 22:27
>>111 >>110 WAS HERE,
YOU'RE IGNORING MY STATEMENT THAT *BSD HAS NO ACCEPTABLE METHOD OF MANAGING SOFTWARE PACKAGES
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Anonymous2009-12-10 23:03
>>112 >>111 WAS HERE,
I"M JUST GOING TO USE THE SAME DEFENCES THAT SLASHDOTTERS AND REDDITORS USE BECAUSE I CAN"T BE BOTHERED THINKING OF SOMETHING PROPER "NICE STRAWMAN, AND BLATANT AD HOMINEM, YOU POOPIE HEAD I"M RIGHT AND YOUR WRONG BECAUSE I SAID SO".
Lunix at its core remains a conglomerate of dirty hacks which will not be user-friendly with whatever GUI you add.
Its made for people who play "Linux" as exciting hacker's "game" to boost their eliteness.
Its not just Linux has this theme of "BDSM computing", windows has its own share too:
like editing "undocumented registry entries"(and i've edited plenty of them) and searching for "compatible DLLs".
In linux the idea of problem:3-page solution is always dirtier, more complex and prone to failure then equivalent windows problem:next/[x]/[ok]/reboot. This reminds me greatly of MMORPG design:
someone creating a new character would want to do a Quest A, find it exciting and challenging.
Next character created, the same quest would look much less exciting, though bit easier. The third time the quest becomes a time-wasting chore, which is akin to grinding. The fourth time the player would want to skip or rush the quest as fast as possible. But in Linux Online the game isn't that forgiving: every mistake and you have to start the quest again.
No, you're wrong. Stupid people use Microsoft for servers. Stupid people especially use MS Small Business Server, because unscrupulous vendors sell it to them. "It looks like Windows, it's really easy". Regular people can barely attach a printer. How the hell are they supposed to install MS SBS, with all that goes with it?
And the only reason they think they can do it is because it has a familiar gui.
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Anonymous2009-12-11 19:58
>>118
Microsoft products are very easy to use together with other Microsoft products in their default settings. Ease of use/management go downhill very fast when you want to something more complex than the defaults.
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Anonymous2009-12-11 20:14
Sure, easy for people who can computer.
It's the people who can computer, and who are being sold 'easy' server OSs, and who think that it has a gui so they must be able to use it, that I feel sorry for.