Liberal views of race are fallacious. So are racist discussions. As I shall now prove.
Instances of race as a social construct do not disprove race as biologically valid, scientific fact cannot be changed by the actions of people. Thus any mention of social constructs is going to be irrelevant to this discussion.
There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains, whereas whites and mongoloids have about the same size brain, but with asians beating caucasians, which explains their higher IQs with the Chinese scoring higher than many european counties with higher standards of living.
As much as culture has an effect on a person's ability to learn, by default there is a limit to the complexity of concepts that a person can understand and the speed at which a person can develop an understanding of complex concepts. Not everyone can complete a PHD in theoretical physics. Those who are capable of doing so are genetically superior to those who cannot and denying this fact is an act of discrimination against those people.
Does this mean all negroes are genetically inferior in mental capacity to all mongoloids and should be considerred less human?
No.
Some negroes are more intelligent than mongoloids by genetic default. The differences in intelligence within a race, in groups which have sufficient nutrition and education, are often wider than the differences between races. Racism is inherantly illogical and is not a practical means of discerning what genes we should grant future generations.
What should we make of this?
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Anonymous2006-12-29 2:25
huh..well this is interesting. I would hve thought it was the other way. why with black music being brilliant and black intellectials dominating american life. shocking , truly.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 2:29
>>2
Seriously, I hear rap music everywhere and Samuel L. Jackson on television all the time. Negros are the superior race indeed.
Blacks are shitting in their culture and fucking themselves over in the process with things like rap. If blacks were better, they wouldn't be dominating the poor neighborhoods, they'd be dominating the rich ones.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 11:59
>>2 >>3
Those are examples of superior negroes and they fit into my argument.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 12:20
>>1
The mean IQ of people has risen dramatically the last hundred years. Mans genome has not changed within this timeframe. This means that the main factor determining IQ is culture, not genetic talent.
Neanderthals had larger brains than homo sapiens, do this mean that they were genetically superior? Why are they extinct then?
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Anonymous2006-12-29 12:27
they were killed by jews
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Anonymous2006-12-29 13:29
black music is not rap lol. black music has influenced everything in pop music today, every since they started the blues movement. so everything from blues to jazz to rock is black music, or heavily influenced by them.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 21:05
>>5
blacks aren't the only people listening to rap music or dressing like rappers
"There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains"
no, they don't. and if you aren't racist then don't call black people "negroes", this isn't 1920.
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Africans who haven't been mixing with whites or arabs.
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Anonymous2006-12-31 7:45
lol at liberal's attempt to make it seem as though race is ambiguous
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Anonymous2007-01-01 0:37
>>23
So, what about Egyptians, or any other north African country? Or what about Haitians or Dominicans or Jamaicans etcetera etcetera etcetera?
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Anonymous2007-01-01 0:50
>>22
what the fuck is a real white? there is no real black, its a skin color many species of monkeys adapted but never evolved past (lulz jk (not really)).
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Anonymous2007-01-01 2:27
Ok she devil. Listen up. Stop changing reality. I'll bite your forehead.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 7:34
>>26
Do you honestly think black people are genetically inferior? That is such utter bullshit that I don't even know where to begin. Listen, you've been proven wrong many times by geneticists with far, far greater knowledge than you. Open your eyes.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 15:08
>>28
There is nothing to suggest all races are exactly equal. In fact the notion is absurd as by default there must be differences. It is just a question of how big a difference nad it seems the effect of individual variation is greater than the effects of identified racial markers leading to a significant portion of Namibians being more intelligent than Japanese. So I don't see why you have a problem with it.
You have a choice.
A: Look like an idiot as you continue to rant about how everyone is perfectly equal and if there is a higher prevalence of lactose intolerance amongst the Japanese it must be because of "the man" along with all the other problems in the universe
B: Recognise scientific fact, support capitalism and push for the logic that racism is inherantly illogical and everyone should be treated on individual merit.
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LordRiordan2007-01-01 15:53
Re:1 You fail, a slightly bigger brain doesn't mean higher IQ.
There are so many variables that go into intelligence.
The size of your brain has no effect on the efficiency in which you can utilize it, which is more or less directly effected by a combination of genetic code and conditional environment.
There isn't that big of a difference between races besides SLIGHT variation in physical features and disease/condition resistance which is more or less related to their origin. Most of everything else is either social or environmental.
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I am french/dominican, my father is from france and my mother from the dominican republic.I lived in the dominican for a few years and very few people there are "real black".Almost everyone there is either my color(light brown) or white.Anyone darker is either haitian or mixed with some other race.
People tend to think because you have brown skin you must be a nigger, have low IQ or etc.It really pisses me off how american blacks have literally taken a shit on all other browns/blacks around the world.Blacks in europe are so different from the ones is america is not even funny, same goes for the Dominican republic.They should really work on trying to fix their image right now.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 21:09
this is suck a oxymoron lol
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Anonymous2007-01-02 2:30
Don't you know anything about science? When scientists want to look at the effects of a particular property they equalise all other other properties and examine what happens when the particular property is changed.
Do you realise the distinction between possibility and capability? Yes, total brain mass shows little correlation with intelligence, but do you actually think that the brain does not play a part in intelligence whatsoever? The neo-cortex (thinking part of the brain) shows a strong correlation with intelligence. This is why apes have sloped foreheads as the neo-cortex is at the front top of the brain.
If you have a small neo-cortex, you are incapable of getting a PHD (unless it is a phd in mexico studies or something). If you are capable of getting a phd, then it is of course a matter of the quality of your education. Bear in mind it isn't just a case of rememberring as much as possible, the largest part of coursework and exams always requires you to develop and analyse things on your own quickly and correctly. The only way to do this is to have a large neo-cortex capable of examining very large amounts of information in just a few thought processes, even someone with a small neo-cortex which has been tuned into an analysis machine can only contemplate a limited number of concepts at a time.
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Anonymous2007-01-02 3:00
i hate the world and everything
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Anonymous2007-01-02 19:41
>>34
You speak like science is the new bible, stop being a fucking retard.
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Anonymous2007-01-02 19:44
>>32
Well, what do you expect from guys who have been slaves, suddenly freed with no money or place to go and never integrated into society really. It was really bad decision for US to take slaves. We should have left blacks alone.
>>36 >>38
So you enjoy ignoring facts when they don't suit you. Fair enough, but what are you going to do about people who believe it is important not to ignore facts your don't like? Burn them at the stake?
I never said those weren't facts. I just said they don't mean anything. You can waste your time figuring out all the workings of the human mind, but then what?
>>41
But then I can find out more about the nature of intelligence and use this knowledge to make better informed decisions? Do you have a problem with this? Perhaps I should be kept in the dark and keep my mouth shut through intimidation? Would that appease you?
>>42
If you are in a position to tell me I am missing something out concerning scientific method it should be easy to point out what.
Stop being a faggot and pretending I'm attacking you so you can look like a victim of some sort of coercion that seems to exist only inside your head. I'm not intimidating you, and my problem isn't with these facts, they are good and dandy, but simply the idea of inferiority does not comply with the ideas of a human being. Yes, OK, some people are inferior beings, with underdeveloped brains or whatever, but you suggest that we treat them inhumanely.
No. What I'm saying is that there is difference between facts and truth. Facts that merely imply something that isn't absolutely represented by something true (so and so is inferior) isn't...ding ding ding...you got it: The truth. Lurk moar and learn skepticism. THX BAI
If that IS what you are saying, than I was right the first time: you had no point whatsoever as you didn't contribute to the thread at all, since all that was said in the OP.
Fucking fail.
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Anonymous2007-01-04 20:34
I second that Fail
and upgrade it to Major Fail
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Anonymous2007-01-04 21:50
I put on my robe and lawyer wig.
I stick a fail into my asshole and begin jerking off.
Why? You already know.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 1:37
>>29
"There is nothing to suggest all races are exactly equal. In fact the notion is absurd as by default there must be differences. It is just a question of how big a difference nad it seems the effect of individual variation is greater than the effects of identified racial markers"
Yes.
"leading to a significant portion of Namibians being more intelligent than Japanese."
What? Explain please.
"You have a choice.
A: Look like an idiot as you continue to rant about how everyone is perfectly equal and if there is a higher prevalence of lactose intolerance amongst the Japanese it must be because of "the man" along with all the other problems in the universe
B: Recognise scientific fact, support capitalism and push for the logic that racism is inherantly illogical and everyone should be treated on individual merit."
Those are my only options? Well, shit. No, I never said everyone was perfectly equal, people are very different. All I said was skin color or nationality does not make you genetically inferior any more than hair color or eye color or nipple size. And this discussion has nothing to do with capitalism, but thanks for the red herring.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 1:54
>>49
If a significant portion of a group with a low mode IQ is more intelligent than the average mode IQ of a group with a high mode IQ, then it has been mathematically proven that discrimination against that group is illogical.
This is very simple, this is Logic 101.
I have a red sock, you are wearing a sock, therefore your sock is red.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 1:57
>>49
Thios is the thing see. You assume the worst of me and it seriously derails the progress of the discussion. I was responding to your proud declarations that race doesn't exist, when it does. You say it as though you are making the world a better place and that the only way to stop people being racist is to ignore facts. I think that is naive and stupid, so I crushed you in debate and this is how you respond?
Biology implies biological difference due to effects from environment and culture; not absolute and fundamental "racial differences". Race is an "after the fact" definition for those biological differences not the defining mechanism for those differences.
Unless your truth was deduced using scientific method, then you are basing your opinion on mere co-relations and not identifying any mechanisms. Without the mechanism for race (IE - a specific race gene), you have no basis for believing in race outside of the fact that everyone else seems to. This alone, above all else makes you wrong. I'm sorry that you're having trouble grasping and accepting that. No one here is denying the truth or reality, you're just misinformed, uneducated and more like than likely genetically inferior.
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There are documented racial differences. If you feel calling them racial markers might make people racist, then you can call them squarglorbs instead. Much like calling black people african americans reduced racism, because as we know racists are all stupid and easily succumb to changing the word for things.
...What the hell are you on? I... didn't say anything like that in that post. Did you even read it? Fuck off, troll.
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Cynic2007-01-05 2:27
>>40
It's worked thus far. Controversial ideas are dangerous and are usually stopped with brute force rather than open discussion.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 2:37
>>56
That's a controversial idea. If someone can use brute force to silence whoever they want, they are also in a position to abuse that power and become a tyrant.
Your limited capacity for understanding the simpliest of concepts is disheartening and bordering on annoying. You clearly don't understand what's being said.
Documented racial differences =/= actual racial differences if you can not accurately define a mechanism for race. Making a co-relations isn't science. I keep repeating this because you just don't seem to understand.
It's not that I "feel calling them racial markers might make people racist"...it's that "calling them racial markers have created the entire notion for race". In the past it was a simply matter of not being from a certain culture or group of people. Race is a recent concept not inherant in nature and without any fundamental mechanisms so race doesn't exist.
This isn't hard to understand, dividing people up into race based on skin pigments would be like dividing people up into race based on height or hair color. It's silly, stupid and science is hard pressed to respect the notion.
You guys will have to forgive the typos. I type fast and english isn't my first language.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 3:40
>>60
Sometimes documented racial differences are relevant and sometimes they are irrelevant. The race of a person applying for a job as a janitor is irrelevant. When a child describes the person who raped them, ignoring the description of the skin colour and other racial characteristics of the abuser due to fears of racism is extremely illogical and probably means you are a child rapist.
It's you repeating "documented racial differences" ad nauseum that is leading me to believe that you don't know how to properly interpet phenotypes, nor do you know the difference between genotypes and phenotypes.
When a child describes the person who raped them, ignoring the description of the skin colour and other racial characteristics of the abuser due to fears of racism is extremely illogical and probably means you are a child rapist.
Can you explain to me what this has to do with the topic at hand and how it negates this statement: "Documented racial differences =/= actual racial differences if you can not accurately define a mechanism for race."
Again, you don't seem to understand. Merely noting that someone is "black" or "white" or "mexican" doesn't make it biological or scientific fact. It is in this way that Race is expressed as an interpetation of what biology shows us (skin pigment, skull shape, facial features). But race, on it's own as a concept, has no indentifiable mechanism- so it has no fundamental scienetific basis.
Have I confused you?
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Anonymous2007-01-05 16:03
>>64
"doesn't make it biological or scientific fact"
So what do we call these facts then? If you are afraid calling these facts something which implies they exist, perhaps we can call them Plootarbs instead. Would that make you happy?
Are you trying to say that there is no link between skin colour and intelligence? Of course there isn't. There is however a linky between genes and intelligence and people have different genes and many genes affect intelligence, which means not everyone is equal and groups which have evolved in one area for a long time tend to share genes.
Anyways I don't see why you keep implying I am racist. I already unequivocally proved that racism is illogical. Which is more than can be said for you pot smoking hippies who immediately assume that anyone doesn't agree with them is an idiot and certain facts they don't like should just be ignored.
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AngryOldMan2007-01-05 19:33
One problem to remember is that most of the time, the issues are sociological, not race related except in the fact that a certain race in a certain area is, for whatever reason, stuck in the same boat.
Earlier in this century, there were plenty of stereotypes about Irish immigrants to the US, because many dirt-poor Irish immigrants travelled to the US, so even though their race wasn't a factor in their behaviour directly, their common background was.
Today, in the US, Mexican immigrants get hit by the same stereotypes, but they too come from extremely low social and economic classes, and because of that, tend to do the things poor people do. It's not because they have mexican blood that they do what they do, it's because they are desperate people coming from a land which is both destitute and filled with customs which are frowned upon in polite society(Every society has this, Americans can't stand how Europeans have less of a concept of personal space, for example).
Here in Canada, a variety of Government programs dating back to colonial times gives natives access to many resources for free. Furthermore, they don't pay taxes on anything they buy or make. This has unfortunately lead to a situation where most natives are happy to live off of government handouts. This fruitless existance leads many to alcoholism or crime. Thus, there is a stereotype(a not undeserved one) of natives as being pathetic drunks who treat their possessions badly then complain about it, and who make up most of the crime in the country. Not because their blood is native, but because their shared common situation has produced a group of people who all do the same thing.
The problem is discerning the cause from the effect. People might be a stereotype if they are a certain race, but it's not because they're a certain race. It's because they're a stereotype. In my opinion, if you can make an observation about an identifyable group of people while understanding that the observation is an effect of something other than the identifyable group they belong to, then you aren't being racist. When you decide that it's the identifyable group that is the CAUSE of the problem, that's where things become problematic. A black person or a native isn't going to steal your car because they're a black person or a native. They're going to steal your car because the former has had a raw deal for generations, going all the way back to where their ancestors were captured and brought stateside as slaves, and because the latter has been given no reason to live by having all their desires and needs granted by treaties which were intended to strengthen later generations, but whose effect is completely the opposite.
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Grumpy Old Man2007-01-05 19:56
Of course, I forgot to mention, to be intellectually honest, you have to also realize that human DNA isn't equalized, and thus some individuals will have a genetic advantage in some areas, and some races will likely have a statistically high or low number of these people.
We're all doomed by laplace's demon. We think we're in control, but the fate we choose for ourselves is predestined by circumstance.
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Anonymous2007-01-05 21:42
everyone has that proublem now and then
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Anonymous2007-01-05 21:53
>>67
Yeah, but if we sit back and do fuck all, nothing good will come to you, even if you are born a king.
(a) clearly you don't understand what >>64 is saying because you absolutely refuse to respond to any of his scientific reproaches. come back when you learn the difference between genotype and phenotype and their definitions.
(b) the only people who would treat those biological difference as "racial differences" are people who believe in race. that alone makes you a racist.
Laplace's demon means that you're a victim of consequence whether you're subjectively good or bad. Everything in the universe is predictable if you have enough information and the proper understanding of the physics involved, even humans. Thus, a person will be whatever their circumstances dictate. Choice is an illusion exactly because the choice you make is already pre-determined by the circumstances in which you make the choice.
Because of this, it's also important to realize that just because a person has weaker DNA or a less useful background, humans are humans. In the end, the sun will turn red and devour every particle of evidence of our existance. Thus, it's better to just live than to run around making value judgements about who is a 'good human' and who is 'bad'. Live, enjoy life, understand the fruitlessness of your endeavors, and follow whatever things you think are important, because doing so will make you fell good and inspire others, making them feel good, which will make you feel better (Nobody wants to hang around sad losers if they can help it).
except laplace's demon has been moot since the advent of quantum physics.
anyway, that sort of nihilism is dangerous, since it can potentially lead to hedonism and the loss of certain aspects of humanity that some of us hold dear.
Uh, no. I really wish people would stop replying unless they can refute what's being said. You're like a fucking child >>73. First you can't refute >>64 scientific claim, THEN you can't refute >>71's philosophical claims.
"except laplace's demon has been moot since the advent of quantum physics"
LOL, you're an idiot! You clearly don't understand what >>71 is saying.
Laplace's demon is not a philosophical claim, that was a physical claim stating that if we know where every single particle was at the beginning of the universe then we can predict everything afterward simply using the physical laws of mechanics. It was a perfect and tangible determinism that broke down shortly after advances in our knowledge of the universe.
As for the philosophical claims, saying everything we do is futile and meaningless in some distant amount of time is perhaps true, yet somehow we must still reconcile with that fact. >>73 just leaves something to be desired, but then again, all philosophical ponderings on this question will come up short. I'm not sure myself what to really think, though >>73 is right in one respect -- that we should live anyway, no matter futile it is.
I understand all that, idiot, I was refering to philosophical undertones of Laplace's demon. Clearly you understood that with the statement that follows (so I don't know why the first paragraph was even needed):
As for the philosophical claims, saying everything we do is futile and meaningless in some distant amount of time is perhaps true, yet somehow we must still reconcile with that fact. >>73 just leaves something to be desired, but then again, all philosophical ponderings on this question will come up short. I'm not sure myself what to really think, though >>73 is right in one respect -- that we should live anyway, no matter futile it is.
You still don't get what he was saying. How this shit keeps flying over your head is beyond my understanding. Clearly, you're used to only hearing what you want to hear and responding to what you want to respond to.
He never said everything was futile and meaningless. That's what you inferred, just like you continue to infer that a combination of skin pigment and different culture = race, even though you have failed at identifying the biological mechanism for race.
Quantum Physics doesn't undo any of the philosophical undertones of Laplace's demon and you wouldn't even utter such a thing if you understood Quantum Physics. So, let's see...you fail at Quantum Physics, you fail at Geneology, you fail at debate.
Don't think any of us have ignored the fact that you've basically been repeating yourself without offering any basis for your backasswards and juvenile claims. You shouldn't even bother posting if you're just going to go around spewing bullshit and shouting "Leftist! Socialist!" and shit. It's old and reeks of the inherant faggotry in your thought processes.
Fail less, lurk moar.
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Anonymous2007-01-06 23:50
As a whole, however, blacks are far less intelligent than Europeans and Asians. There are exceptions to the rule, but the rule obviously exists. Try walking alone at night through a typical all-black neighborhood verus a typical all-white neighborhood at night.
The biological mechanism for race is genetics. Groups of alike people have similar genes. Of course, defining it is semiarbitrary but you can't do much else when you're human, but seriously, someone of African descent is going to have genes more in common with someone else of African descent (i.e. black).
Let's not play postmodernists and deny reality.
All life on earth is really on a branching spectrum, and the distiction of species is really just a human construction! Different species can produce hyrbids that are fertile (though usually hybrids are sterile) though nobody in their right mind is going to say that a division between sea sponges and human doesn't exist. "Race" is really just like "species".... a false construct used to help make things easier to explain.
The biological mechanism for race cannot be genetics because there is no fundamental genetic expression for race outside of the "after-the-fact" classifications we give it to make us sleep better at night. Just because it's easier doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't make it true. Again, you need to bone up on scientific method. (and genetics for that matter)
You're obviously not intelligent enough to comprehend what I wrote.
Groups of alike humans differ genetically from other groups. This can be construed as race. There is no one "race" gene. That is a strawman, and you probably are too stupid to be aware of it. Just like species differ -- there is no one gene that differs species. Your liberal BS arguments use semantical games or obfuscations to block the truth, but at the end of the day you're the one lying to yourself to make yourself sleep better at night.
I don't expect a pure European person to be born with jet black skin. Nor do I expect pure East Asians to lack epicanthic folds. Nor do I expect niggers to invent the wheel. There may be exceptions (such as environmental issues or statistical rarities) but those are just that--exceptions.
I understand science and empiricism. I also know what the limits of human perception are. Let's use the example of colors... they don't exist in their form outside of human perception -- they're just different frequencies of light. Yet we assign certain colors (or a color range) to green, blue, yellow, violet, etc., and other people are going to know what you're talking about. This is just like race -- an inexact description of a phenemonon that is simplified for human understandings.
So STFU fag. LOL. Go read Jew Gould and don your yarmulke, commie fag. LOL.
(And the fact this argument is getting into fucking quantum physics to prove/disprove race pretty much shows that the common people are idiots who need to be oppressed)
Full of AIDS and fail. You don't understand science and empiricism, you obviously don't understand the limits of human perception if you yourself can not see that comparing the perception of race to the perception colors is NOT the same thing.
Colors are expressed at different frequencies of light, but this is not the same way we percieve race as being expressed as difference clusters of "race making genes". There are no "race making genes" (sorry, but I clearly have to dumb this down for you). This is the point that you continue to glare over because your identity (and thus the identity of others)- regardless if you are willing to admit- is limited to the construct of race. You are a racist.
There is no such thing as a "Pure race". Even when we use your definition of race; the only truly "pure" race are our sub-saharan ancestors that survived the flood.
Your inability to understand this is what makes you common and makes people like you very easy to manipulate. It's been going on for years and it's not even some big conspiracy. Spewing "Jew Gould" and "Commie" and "Liberal" means that you are common and more than likely you're being oppressed by your own misinformation.
Thank God for the Illumanti.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 11:37
>>81 "Wow, you must really be some kind of sick and twisted fuck if from that you derived: 'Everything is meaningless, become an hero!'"
OK, then tell me how my actions will remain meaningful in, say, a couple hundred billion years.
"Once again, you fail at Quantum Physics."
Once again, you don't explain how. We can't physically determine where every particle is in the universe without messing with its speed, and vice versa -- how the hell could we then know where everything was in the beginning of the universe?
That's entirely subjective though. "Meaning" could be a weak term for a stronger ideal that we aren't currently able to comprehend. Why you feel the need to adhere to such a rigid and dogmatic way of thinking, is a conflict for yourself- not for others.
Lack of determinism doesn't imply lack of meaning. Lack of probability doesn't imply lack of possibility. If you truly understand that human perception is limited, then why would base any concrete belief on human perception? This can range from capitalism, to socialism, or racism. It really doesn't matter from here on out because you're sitting here trying to say that the lack of determinism in Quantum Physics somehow proves that "niggers didn't invent the wheel". Do you even realize how ignorant you sound?
You're still thinking I'm a racist even though I'm not responsible for those statements you think I made. I'm suspicious now that you are probably a troll, and a good one at that. I'm just trying to invalidate Laplace's demon, thereby making people responsible for their own actions, rather than claim that it was "destiny."
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Anonymous2007-01-07 13:53
Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them. Seriously, that's for brainless, ditzy girls who "still love" their boyfriend who beats them.
LOL. But I never said there were "race making genes" I said there were groups of alike humans that differed to other groups with genetic differences. Why can't you comprehend this?
As for pure races, let's just say an individual with no ancestral intermixture with members of other racial groups for a long time. How's dat sound, Charlie?
As for the flood, well, nice try putting in your Christian shithole religion in the debate. Good job well done! Did I detect a bit of afrocentrism in there, too?
The reason I trollingly mentioned Gould was because racial nihilism is pushed primarily by leftist whites, and Jews. But that's an argument for another place, and definitely not pedo-chan.
I'd love to know which parts of China have a better standard of living than Europe. Also small genetic markers don't mean shit. Everyone has the same potential to become intelligent if raised in the right environment, regardless of their mouth structure or whatever.
Fascismo: Intelligence doesn't guarentee success. It correlates, but then again, it is more evidence of racial difference as the Chinese have a higher IQ average than Europe.
Not everyone has the same potential. That's why most people in 1st world countries are still stupid.
Listen: Maybe if the universe was 100% knowable and unchanging maybe you'd be right. But come on, there's no way of invalidating Laplace's demon, it's been tried by smarter men with, in all probability, better education than yours. You aren't going to invalidate jack shit on a BBS on the internet, especially when that place is 4chan. And where do you get off thinking invalidating Laplace's demon is going to magically make people absolutely responsible for their own actions?
Why can't you comprehend the irrelevance of such an observation? Let's just divide people with different heights into different "races" then! Hey! Fat people fall outside your preconcieved "norm" they must be a different race too!
As for pure races, let's just say an individual with no ancestral intermixture with members of other racial groups for a long time. How's dat sound, Charlie?
Sounds like bunk madness.
Taken from >>79: The biological mechanism for race cannot be genetics because there is no fundamental genetic expression for race outside of the "after-the-fact" classifications we give it to make us sleep better at night. Just because it's easier doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't make it true. Again, you need to bone up on scientific method. (and genetics for that matter)
Therefore, there can be no "racial groups" because race has no fundamental genetic expression, until you can prove otherwise you fail and you're just flapping your big old gums just to be heard. Keep on crying into the dead of night, loser.
As for the flood, well, nice try putting in your Christian shithole religion in the debate. Good job well done! Did I detect a bit of afrocentrism in there, too?
Maybe you need to lay your dumbass off the LSD. I made no references to the bible. The flood is a reference to whatever happened to mankind that resulting in our only survivors being sub-saharan Africans. If you have a better or competing theory I'm sure the scientific journals would like to hear of it.
The reason I trollingly mentioned Gould was because racial nihilism is pushed primarily by leftist whites, and Jews. But that's an argument for another place, and definitely not pedo-chan.
Who cares? You're an idiot if you really think there's some uncontrollable conspiracy to push "racial nihilism" by "leftist whites" and "Jews"?
You're a white nationalist, buddy! I don't expect someone like you to not have (thinly vieled) racist views! There's no way you'd ever admit to yourself or others that race is an invalid, unfounded and illogical construct because your identity and entire belief system are intrinsically staked on the existence on race. This makes you easily controlled, it doesn't make you or "your race" stronger.
According to chemical engineer Robert Ulanowicz, in his 1986 book Growth and Development, Laplace's demon met its end with early 19th century developments of the concepts of irreversibility, entropy, and the second law of thermodynamics. In other words, Laplace's demon was based on the premise of reversibility and classical mechanics; thermodynamics, i.e. real processes, however, are irreversible.