Non-liberal non-racist discussion of race.

Liberal views of race are fallacious. So are racist discussions. As I shall now prove.

Instances of race as a social construct do not disprove race as biologically valid, scientific fact cannot be changed by the actions of people. Thus any mention of social constructs is going to be irrelevant to this discussion.

There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains, whereas whites and mongoloids have about the same size brain, but with asians beating caucasians, which explains their higher IQs with the Chinese scoring higher than many european counties with higher standards of living.

As much as culture has an effect on a person's ability to learn, by default there is a limit to the complexity of concepts that a person can understand and the speed at which a person can develop an understanding of complex concepts. Not everyone can complete a PHD in theoretical physics. Those who are capable of doing so are genetically superior to those who cannot and denying this fact is an act of discrimination against those people.

Does this mean all negroes are genetically inferior in mental capacity to all mongoloids and should be considerred less human?

No.

Some negroes are more intelligent than mongoloids by genetic default. The differences in intelligence within a race, in groups which have sufficient nutrition and education, are often wider than the differences between races. Racism is inherantly illogical and is not a practical means of discerning what genes we should grant future generations.

What should we make of this?

>>86

Listen: Maybe if the universe was 100% knowable and unchanging maybe you'd be right. But come on, there's no way of invalidating Laplace's demon, it's been tried by smarter men with, in all probability, better education than yours. You aren't going to invalidate jack shit on a BBS on the internet, especially when that place is 4chan. And where do you get off thinking invalidating Laplace's demon is going to magically make people absolutely responsible for their own actions?

>>88

Why can't you comprehend the irrelevance of such an observation? Let's just divide people with different heights into different "races" then! Hey! Fat people fall outside your preconcieved "norm" they must be a different race too!

As for pure races, let's just say an individual with no ancestral intermixture with members of other racial groups for a long time.  How's dat sound, Charlie?

Sounds like bunk madness.

Taken from >>79: The biological mechanism for race cannot be genetics because there is no fundamental genetic expression for race outside of the "after-the-fact" classifications we give it to make us sleep better at night. Just because it's easier doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't make it true. Again, you need to bone up on scientific method. (and genetics for that matter)

Therefore, there can be no "racial groups" because race has no fundamental genetic expression, until you can prove otherwise you fail and you're just flapping your big old gums just to be heard. Keep on crying into the dead of night, loser.

As for the flood, well, nice try putting in your Christian shithole religion in the debate.  Good job well done!  Did I detect a bit of afrocentrism in there, too?

Maybe you need to lay your dumbass off the LSD. I made no references to the bible. The flood is a reference to whatever happened to mankind that resulting in our only survivors being sub-saharan Africans. If you have a better or competing theory I'm sure the scientific journals would like to hear of it.

The reason I trollingly mentioned Gould was because racial nihilism is pushed primarily by leftist whites, and Jews.  But that's an argument for another place, and definitely not pedo-chan.

Who cares? You're an idiot if you really think there's some uncontrollable conspiracy to push "racial nihilism" by "leftist whites" and "Jews"?

You're a white nationalist, buddy! I don't expect someone like you to not have (thinly vieled) racist views! There's no way you'd ever admit to yourself or others that race is an invalid, unfounded and illogical construct because your identity and entire belief system are intrinsically staked on the existence on race. This makes you easily controlled, it doesn't make you or "your race" stronger.

>>90

It's not as simple as that.

http://hdr.undp.org/hdr2006/statistics/countries/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs_CHN.html