Liberal views of race are fallacious. So are racist discussions. As I shall now prove.
Instances of race as a social construct do not disprove race as biologically valid, scientific fact cannot be changed by the actions of people. Thus any mention of social constructs is going to be irrelevant to this discussion.
There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains, whereas whites and mongoloids have about the same size brain, but with asians beating caucasians, which explains their higher IQs with the Chinese scoring higher than many european counties with higher standards of living.
As much as culture has an effect on a person's ability to learn, by default there is a limit to the complexity of concepts that a person can understand and the speed at which a person can develop an understanding of complex concepts. Not everyone can complete a PHD in theoretical physics. Those who are capable of doing so are genetically superior to those who cannot and denying this fact is an act of discrimination against those people.
Does this mean all negroes are genetically inferior in mental capacity to all mongoloids and should be considerred less human?
No.
Some negroes are more intelligent than mongoloids by genetic default. The differences in intelligence within a race, in groups which have sufficient nutrition and education, are often wider than the differences between races. Racism is inherantly illogical and is not a practical means of discerning what genes we should grant future generations.
What should we make of this?
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Anonymous2006-12-29 2:25
huh..well this is interesting. I would hve thought it was the other way. why with black music being brilliant and black intellectials dominating american life. shocking , truly.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 2:29
>>2
Seriously, I hear rap music everywhere and Samuel L. Jackson on television all the time. Negros are the superior race indeed.
Blacks are shitting in their culture and fucking themselves over in the process with things like rap. If blacks were better, they wouldn't be dominating the poor neighborhoods, they'd be dominating the rich ones.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 11:59
>>2 >>3
Those are examples of superior negroes and they fit into my argument.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 12:20
>>1
The mean IQ of people has risen dramatically the last hundred years. Mans genome has not changed within this timeframe. This means that the main factor determining IQ is culture, not genetic talent.
Neanderthals had larger brains than homo sapiens, do this mean that they were genetically superior? Why are they extinct then?
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Anonymous2006-12-29 12:27
they were killed by jews
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Anonymous2006-12-29 13:29
black music is not rap lol. black music has influenced everything in pop music today, every since they started the blues movement. so everything from blues to jazz to rock is black music, or heavily influenced by them.
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Anonymous2006-12-29 21:05
>>5
blacks aren't the only people listening to rap music or dressing like rappers
"There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains"
no, they don't. and if you aren't racist then don't call black people "negroes", this isn't 1920.
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Africans who haven't been mixing with whites or arabs.
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Anonymous2006-12-31 7:45
lol at liberal's attempt to make it seem as though race is ambiguous
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Anonymous2007-01-01 0:37
>>23
So, what about Egyptians, or any other north African country? Or what about Haitians or Dominicans or Jamaicans etcetera etcetera etcetera?
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Anonymous2007-01-01 0:50
>>22
what the fuck is a real white? there is no real black, its a skin color many species of monkeys adapted but never evolved past (lulz jk (not really)).
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Anonymous2007-01-01 2:27
Ok she devil. Listen up. Stop changing reality. I'll bite your forehead.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 7:34
>>26
Do you honestly think black people are genetically inferior? That is such utter bullshit that I don't even know where to begin. Listen, you've been proven wrong many times by geneticists with far, far greater knowledge than you. Open your eyes.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 15:08
>>28
There is nothing to suggest all races are exactly equal. In fact the notion is absurd as by default there must be differences. It is just a question of how big a difference nad it seems the effect of individual variation is greater than the effects of identified racial markers leading to a significant portion of Namibians being more intelligent than Japanese. So I don't see why you have a problem with it.
You have a choice.
A: Look like an idiot as you continue to rant about how everyone is perfectly equal and if there is a higher prevalence of lactose intolerance amongst the Japanese it must be because of "the man" along with all the other problems in the universe
B: Recognise scientific fact, support capitalism and push for the logic that racism is inherantly illogical and everyone should be treated on individual merit.
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LordRiordan2007-01-01 15:53
Re:1 You fail, a slightly bigger brain doesn't mean higher IQ.
There are so many variables that go into intelligence.
The size of your brain has no effect on the efficiency in which you can utilize it, which is more or less directly effected by a combination of genetic code and conditional environment.
There isn't that big of a difference between races besides SLIGHT variation in physical features and disease/condition resistance which is more or less related to their origin. Most of everything else is either social or environmental.
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I am french/dominican, my father is from france and my mother from the dominican republic.I lived in the dominican for a few years and very few people there are "real black".Almost everyone there is either my color(light brown) or white.Anyone darker is either haitian or mixed with some other race.
People tend to think because you have brown skin you must be a nigger, have low IQ or etc.It really pisses me off how american blacks have literally taken a shit on all other browns/blacks around the world.Blacks in europe are so different from the ones is america is not even funny, same goes for the Dominican republic.They should really work on trying to fix their image right now.
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Anonymous2007-01-01 21:09
this is suck a oxymoron lol
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Anonymous2007-01-02 2:30
Don't you know anything about science? When scientists want to look at the effects of a particular property they equalise all other other properties and examine what happens when the particular property is changed.
Do you realise the distinction between possibility and capability? Yes, total brain mass shows little correlation with intelligence, but do you actually think that the brain does not play a part in intelligence whatsoever? The neo-cortex (thinking part of the brain) shows a strong correlation with intelligence. This is why apes have sloped foreheads as the neo-cortex is at the front top of the brain.
If you have a small neo-cortex, you are incapable of getting a PHD (unless it is a phd in mexico studies or something). If you are capable of getting a phd, then it is of course a matter of the quality of your education. Bear in mind it isn't just a case of rememberring as much as possible, the largest part of coursework and exams always requires you to develop and analyse things on your own quickly and correctly. The only way to do this is to have a large neo-cortex capable of examining very large amounts of information in just a few thought processes, even someone with a small neo-cortex which has been tuned into an analysis machine can only contemplate a limited number of concepts at a time.
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Anonymous2007-01-02 3:00
i hate the world and everything
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Anonymous2007-01-02 19:41
>>34
You speak like science is the new bible, stop being a fucking retard.
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Anonymous2007-01-02 19:44
>>32
Well, what do you expect from guys who have been slaves, suddenly freed with no money or place to go and never integrated into society really. It was really bad decision for US to take slaves. We should have left blacks alone.
>>36 >>38
So you enjoy ignoring facts when they don't suit you. Fair enough, but what are you going to do about people who believe it is important not to ignore facts your don't like? Burn them at the stake?