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Non-liberal non-racist discussion of race.

Name: Potato !jp5ehZeLaE 2006-12-29 2:02

Liberal views of race are fallacious. So are racist discussions. As I shall now prove.

Instances of race as a social construct do not disprove race as biologically valid, scientific fact cannot be changed by the actions of people. Thus any mention of social constructs is going to be irrelevant to this discussion.

There are documented genetic markers that cause them to have different brain sizes and other various features unique to that race. Negroes for instance have by far the smallest brains, whereas whites and mongoloids have about the same size brain, but with asians beating caucasians, which explains their higher IQs with the Chinese scoring higher than many european counties with higher standards of living.

As much as culture has an effect on a person's ability to learn, by default there is a limit to the complexity of concepts that a person can understand and the speed at which a person can develop an understanding of complex concepts. Not everyone can complete a PHD in theoretical physics. Those who are capable of doing so are genetically superior to those who cannot and denying this fact is an act of discrimination against those people.

Does this mean all negroes are genetically inferior in mental capacity to all mongoloids and should be considerred less human?

No.

Some negroes are more intelligent than mongoloids by genetic default. The differences in intelligence within a race, in groups which have sufficient nutrition and education, are often wider than the differences between races. Racism is inherantly illogical and is not a practical means of discerning what genes we should grant future generations.

What should we make of this?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-05 5:10

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It's you repeating "documented racial differences" ad nauseum that is leading me to believe that you don't know how to properly interpet phenotypes, nor do you know the difference between genotypes and phenotypes.

When a child describes the person who raped them, ignoring the description of the skin colour and other racial characteristics of the abuser due to fears of racism is extremely illogical and probably means you are a child rapist.

Can you explain to me what this has to do with the topic at hand and how it negates this statement: "Documented racial differences =/= actual racial differences if you can not accurately define a mechanism for race."

Again, you don't seem to understand. Merely noting that someone is "black" or "white" or "mexican" doesn't make it biological or scientific fact. It is in this way that Race is expressed as an interpetation of what biology shows us (skin pigment, skull shape, facial features). But race, on it's own as a concept, has no indentifiable mechanism- so it has no fundamental scienetific basis.

Have I confused you?

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