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360 and new TV, or new computer tower

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 3:50

hey guys I have saved up $1600USD and have two options get a new TV and a Xbox 360 for about $400 for the Xbox360 and $800 for the TV, or build a new computer tower for $1200 to $1300.

I really love to build computers, but theres some really cool games for the
360, but my computer is 3 years old and upgrading it is useless, but I really do need a new TV my curent one doesnt have AV ports on it. but theres also some awsome computer games that are coming out and the games
I have on my computer right now dont run well. so /comp/ please give suggestions

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 14:59

Try building a computer for $1200 and then buy a good T.V. with what ever is left over. You don't need an $800 T.V.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 15:09

I say opposite, Get 360 and nice T.V.

Dedicated architecture owns for games. Plus, with the 360, you are guaranteed that 360 games will play on it. On a PC you may need to do further upgrades and such to get decent performance.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 15:12

360 is made of Microsoft and poo.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 15:38

Upgrade old compy for $600 use the rest to get an HDTV.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 17:02

>>3

Except that xbox 360 sucks.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 17:29

>>4
>>6

Opinions, which are fine. Of course, I hate M$, myself. But I look at it this way, To beat the 360, you need a about that has about $1200+ worth of hardware inside. Plus, you get little gurantee that all games will play very well. PC has alot of good games, but all I play is FPS and RPG's anyhow. Hell, I still play Halo: CE on my old Xbox. I look at the Stats and see an impressive console. It wasn't the desktop PC that killed the arcade, there's a good reason for that. Having a standardized system is the best way to go about making games. Plus, what happens when M$ puts it's users on lockdown with Vista and all of the great games are only compatable with that? I'm just sayin'

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 8:59

>>7
remember that a computer monitor is still twice the resolution and a quarter the price of an HDTV and cut that amount out of the pc hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 11:43

>>7
Well if it were me with the money I'de want to upgrade the old system. I mean seriously why not have a nice computer. I'm sure yours is full of malware so start off clean. That or buy an xbox, lol.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 13:35

>>9

Personally, I think Xbox 360 is great for the price. Plus, I'm no fan of PC gaming. I mean, there are folks out there that spend thousands upon thousands building a system to play a couple of games. Plus, Windows is a buggy mess. I can tell you right now, My computer has NO malware or spyware on it. Tho, the PC's that I actually gamed on (These weren't mine) have always had these problems. 

I have an Xbox (Halo is still fun to play even after playing games like HL 2) and am planning on getting a 360. I use my computer for what it was designed for, Work. So I can earn money to buy these things.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 14:15

All my gaming is done in Linux with a system I built for £500.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 14:16

try 1000$ for the 360 >_>

go compy

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 14:26

>>11

Can it hang with 360?

>>12

Um, 360 only costs $400. And that's for the delux (Or whatever it's called) package.

To build a windows box rom the ground up that can match or beat it, you need about $1200+. I'd rather spend the $400 and use the rest to get a display, more games, or upgrades to make my computer better for work.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 23:13

>>13
A massive amount of the price in computers is the OS. Make or have someone build a Linux box for you, get online, and make that rich bastard uh...one sale shorter, or something. I can't think up anything witty. Note that if you don't have broadband you may as well buy it though.

>>10
Malware and spyware: Infections of stupid backwards people, like smallpox, malaria, etc.
The only spyware I've seen someone get without visiting stupid porn sites and shit is Zaminga/680180.net, and advertising.com.
Oh and wildtangent but I don't mind that myself, as their games explode without that and their games are really fun. I wonder sometimes if it's an FBI scam though. >.>
It's so unobtrusive I don't even know it exists.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 1:16

Windows only costs a little over $200 (For XP home edition with SP2) for a legitimate version.

Last I checked, to play a game like Call of duty 2, which is available for PC and 360 , You need either windows 2000 or XP. Sure, you can probably get it to run on linux using some kind of compatibility layer software like wine, But Wine is still just a beta release at this time.

That said, The OS doesn't seem to take up a considerable amount of the cost of the machine.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 5:19

>>11
plays nethack exclusively

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 5:24

>>16
Haven't played it in ages actually. Never could get used to the crummy controls. ADOM is superior. I've been playing UT2k4 while drunk these days. Drunk driving a manta = win.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 5:55

>>15
XP home sucks big fat donkey balls. and what person that is capable of building themself a computer these days actually BUYS an OS? hell, I haven't bought a legal copy of windows since win95. just torrent XP pro SP2 Corp. off a bittorrent site.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 6:01

Windows users are pirates.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:15

>>18

I know most people don't actually BUY windows, But that's probably going to change real soon with Vista. Microsoft is tired of missing out on all of those $200 sales.

Just was tating the price because even without it, you're still spending about 1000-1200 to get an equal or slightly better gaming experience than a $400 console. You could always throw more money into totally blowing it out of the water. But with enough money one could probably blow Blue Gene out of the water.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:27

You are all stupid if you buy software.

Vista is not changing anything.

I would not consider purchasing an unmodded system.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:32

>>20
It was all supposed to change with XP, but then they didn't want to risk the ire of corporate clients the world over with their activation baloney, so released an activation-free version into the hands of network admins. It's a good job they're such an honest and incorruptable bunch who never copy that floppy, eh? In five years nobody, not one soul, has yet given in to temptation and pirated the corporate version of XP! Oh, wait...

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:33

>>21 is me.
ps your xbox 360 will look like shit on a $90 television set. A $400 console does not a 360 make. You spend that $400 on a video card, and the difference between what a monitor costs and what an HDTV costs will buy you the HDD, processor, and motherboard. You should have a PC for about $1,000 all told, and that's with a nice-ass flatscreen monitor. An HDTV will run you $1,000 by itself. A $400 computer monitor will have more than double the resolution of that HDTV.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:34

>>21
>>22

So M$ has gotten rid of trusted computing?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:40

>>24
read a newspaper, we are not google

"trusted computing" is a buzzphrase that idiots use to troll about how mocrosoft is going to own our computers and we are too stupid do do anything about it

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:40

>>25
mucrosoft

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:41

mucrosoft mucrosoft lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 13:55

>>23

Already have HDTV, to watch TV and DVD's on....So, I don't include that into the price of the system. I use it for other stuff than games.

Also, you can get a HDTV for less than $1000, if you want.

Right now. Phillips sells a 30 in Widescreen Integrated HDTV model for $699.99 right now and the 26 inch model cost a nice amount less.

Plus, I said that it should cost about $1000 to build a PC to match what the 360 has. We are in agreement here...

Of course, I don't care about what the monitor resolution on a computer is. I have a computer for doing work on. I want a console for games. Personally, M$ SHOULD have built in the capability to connect Flat Screen displays to the 360, out of the box.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 15:47

>>28
$1000 for the PC AND monitor

the PC shouldn't cost more than $600, and you could cut that down to $500 if you got a small hard disk

You are blind if you think resolution in games doesn't matter.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 15:55

>>28
my processor: $40
my ram: $150
my motherboard: $50
my hard drive (after rebate): $40
my 20" flatscreen 1600x1200 monitor: $20 (got it broken and fixed it)
my case and power supply: $50
my video card: $200

Specs: processor 2.4ghz p4 oced to 3.0, 1gig pc4400 @1ghz fsb, Nvidia 6800GT, 200ghz Maxtor hdd, 500 watt PSU, 20" flatscreen LCD

Computer total cost: $550
XBOX + 20" flatscreen HDTV from Best Buy: $1098 plus tax

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 16:00

>>30
actually to be fair, you could get a cable to hook the xbox up to that tft screen for about $80

it would be more like $550 for the PC and $500 for the Xbox. Not a big difference IMHO. If you add a modchip to the Xbox so you can pirate like a PC user, you're probably talking $600 for the Xbox. If you care, that is.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 16:49

>>30

Let's compare shall we?

2.4 ghz P4 oced to 3.0 < 3.2 IBM RISC with Three symmetrical cores, Each capable of Simultaneous multithreading (NOT EVEN COMPARABLE)

1gig pc4400 @1ghz fsb > 512 MB 700 MHz GDDR3 (You need more ram in a non-dedicated architecture)

Nvidia 6800GT < custom ATI "Xenos" chip (*chuckle* Were you serious? The Xenos beats the 6800GT on almost every stat)

200ghz Maxtor hdd > Detachable Hard Drive (O.K. I'll admit it)

20" flatscreen LCD > Nothing


Sure, using spare parts, you can build a working PC for $600. You can even build one for $400 or even $200 if you want. But it takes about $1000+ to equal or beat the 360.

>>31

Exactly.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 17:35

E-PEEEN

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 20:38

E-penis is now fully erect and throbs for more

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 21:04

>>17
You should try being drunk with a wombat from the unreal4ever mod. rofl. It's a bomb dropping turboprop glider. You'll never feel more rednecky.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 12:22

>>32
if all that shit is really superior, why do I get 80fps V-synched in Oblivion and you're stuck at 60hz on your gay hdtv?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 13:31

>>36

Never said HDTV was superior...In fact I gave the 360 a less than on that one. read my whole post.

But the graphics chip in the 360 does sweaty t-bag dance all over your Nvidia and the IBM processor blows your P4 out of the water for games. Plus, did you read what >>31 said?

Anyhow, dedicated systems are just better for playing games on. Open systems, like your PC, are good for everything else. At least be proud of that.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 13:34

>>36

Plus, what are your video settings in oblivion? I'm curios?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 18:37

>>37
I am >>31, I just want to mention that I use a converter to connect my ps2 to a PC monitor and have looked into doing that on a 360 already, and the refresh rate for the monitor will stick itself at 60 hertz with no V-sync and there's not much you can do about it.

A good HDTV is probably better than a monitor for a 360

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 18:48

>>39


I run a 360 on a Dell monitor. Get a 30 inch lcd. It'll look nice as fuck. It only costs 40 bux extra for the monitor adapter.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 18:48

>>39

Good to know, I retract that portion of my rant.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-05 18:52

>>40

So yours works well? What is the performance like? Better than HDTV?

Name: OP 2006-04-06 4:25

Hey guys this is the OP and this is what I've decided:

I going to build a new computer since the prices have come down.

The computer:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4200BVBOX - $355.00

DFI LanParty UT RDX200 CF-DR Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - $169.00

OCZ Gold Series 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered System Memory Model OCZ4001024ELGEGXT - $108.71

connect3D 3056 Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $437.00

ASPIRE X-Superalien ATXA6SW-BK/500 Black w/ red alien eyes Aluminum Server Computer Case ATX aluminum 500W see-through power supply Power Supply - $139.99

all this comes to $1,209.70 I already have everything else I need. 

thanks guys

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-06 6:15

Good for you!

Now go and own young techie.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-06 8:47

that's a pretty rockin' system kiddo, good job

video card is a little expensive though

Name: op 2006-04-06 10:28

Yeahs thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-06 10:50

>>45

Naw that's how much I figuered it would cost, myself

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