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Still NEET loser

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 11:59

why people refuse to help me with any programming job: http://www.job-mo.ru/community/31/14314/

is this that hard to just give someone a programmer job?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 12:14

>>1
You said there that you have a right to hate society for not giving you an education.

If you want to participate in society, you must first forgive everyone for what they have done.  You must also forgive Jews.

After that you will still suffer, but it is the first step.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 12:36

>>2
I wont forgive the Jews, till they die and free the jobs, they occupy.

persons of Jewish ancestry occupy a lot of engineering jobs in my country (Russia)

Actually, even in my home town (Serpukhov) a Jewish programmer, Cristina Zaborsky (http://vk.com/kisenzi9) made fun of me for being uneducated goy and bragged about her CS education and job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 12:44

>>3
Zaborsky also boasted that programming is a lowly job, so soon she change the job to management, like all of her kind (Jews get all the best and high-paid places), while I wont get even a beginner level IT job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 12:56

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:03

>>5
whatever she looks, she occupies job place, which could have been my.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:04

>>6
a good pogrom would kill her or make her run for israel, in effect freeing a programmer job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:07

I have had many time the pleasures to look at somebodies cv's, I mostly just checked if they had some actual experience, were not completely demented, and then let them write some code for some problem.

But how the fuck do you think anyone is giving you a job if you stuff shit like this in your cv:


Личные Качества
----------------------------------
- Коммуникабельность (ибо multiplicative identity = 1)
- Целеустремленность (ака аутизм и дотошность)
- Нацеленность на идеологию (if it ain't Lisp, it's a crap)
- Стрессоустойчивость (ака отчужденность и приобретенная беспомощность)
- Стремление к развитию и профессиональному росту (ака obsessive compulsive disorder)
- Хобби — программирование


Remove that shit. Especially the autism crap.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:11

>>8
I mostly just checked if they had some actual experience
I've zero (0) experience and I plan to learn while working. Almost all Russian HR would reject me, because I have no higher education, so it is recommended to lie about your education, saying that you lost diploma during house fire. I refuse to lie, so I wont get a job, just because all my competitors have diplomas, real or fake.

Remove that shit. Especially the autism crap.
Autism is not a crime. And that is a joke, intended to show that I'm NOT autist.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:27

>>9

Just throw in your language you are writing, that counts as experience. Or just lie, I do that all the time.

And try it with small start ups not big companies. Most of the times they searching for someone, who just does the job and don't complain for little money and big promises.

No, it is not a crime, but it isn't a good sign. Just remove, half programmers are sick fucks and have a drugs hobby and like to rehearse hitlers speeches and need the ritalin to keep the adhd away or whatever. That is not the point. I really wouldn't care you hated the jews, my little pony or the queen of England. The point is that you simply need to hide all those tendencies and act semi normal. If you are in, you can slowly envelop your personality.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:32

Just try to be composed for 2 hours if you search a job. And saying you going to eat children won't help you. That's fucked up.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:41

>>10
Just throw in your language you are writing, that counts as experience.
It is Lisp, so it would be more like a big minus

And try it with small start ups not big companies. Most of the times they searching for someone, who just does the job and don't complain for little money and big promises.
Russia has no small startups. Especially not Serpukhov, which has some Java jobs in Protvino and some web-jobs, which I dont want, because they require simply configuring PHP CMS and setup page layout, which has nothing to do with programming, unless you call Linux tinkering a programming.

>>11
saying you going to eat children won't help you. That's fucked up.
That should help, if they dont want me resorting to a crime, they should provide me with a job, else I would have no choice but to kill and rob somebody.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:43

>>12
In general, there are just no heavy (like OS kernel design or molecular CAD simulations) IT jobs in Russia, especially for uneducated wannabe-programmer from Serpukhov.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:52

>>13

Go to a normal company then. I got my first programming job from a company, where I did the system administration. I started helping the personnel out with some scripts for boring tasks and at the end I programmed their whole intranet. It wasn't super interesting, but it bumped me one place higher and gave better money than system administration. Then I climbed the ladder further up. Sometimes by cunning (stole an assignment from another freelancer by throwing his offer in the bin), sometimes by knowledge (I have some pretty esoteric knowledge of stack based languages) and other times by hard working. You just need to start somewhere. You can't just wait on the perfect job or it will never come.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:56

And otherwise just learn cobol. Lot's of jobs (at least here in Europe). In Europe there are lots of programmers needed btw.

And:

Lie about your education, because nobody will look at the references if you are smooth enough. Lie, lie, lie, what can happen? That they ignore you and put you on the shit list? There are zillion more companies.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:56

>>14
I want to started from a programming job. I don't want CISCO routers and other Linux/bash crap.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 13:58

>>15
And otherwise just learn cobol.
AFAIK, Russia has no COBOL.

nobody will look at the references if you are smooth enough
I'm a sociopath, so I can't be smooth. Besides, I despise lie.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:02

>>16

Yes and you are 30 and that will surely happen out of nowhere. The funny thing is, if you start fixing shit in a normal company, you will poison it, because you start building all their commodity systems. They will become alarmingly depended on you. You are the cocaine of the organisation. Then leave them when you raised your title to senior programmer, of course when you arranged your next job.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:07

>>18
Yes and you are 30 and that will surely happen out of nowhere.
That is why I have no choice, besides resorting to theft and crime. In Russia shoplifting is normal, especially from groceries.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:19

Why can't anyone take me as a junior programmer? I know there are a few anons from Russia. Why cant you?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:22

>>17
I think you are narcissistic. Your passive-aggressive tendencies (blaming society, elitist thinking, etc) are quite a good marker for this.

A sociopath is more like a calculator. He does the math and does what he needs to do to get whatever he needs at that moment. Extreme impulse driven, but charming creatures. My sister had the pleasure to work with them. She got an ice pick on her neck from one, because she wrote something he didn't liked.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:23

>>18
if you start fixing shit in a normal company
I cant fix shit in a normal company, because I have zero networking knowledge. I cant discern a socket from a baudrate.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:23

>>20

I live in Europe, therefore I can't. I wouldn't mind another junior programmer.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:25

>>18
The worst part is if you have one day of outstanding productivity that produces more than any other day you have worked, they expect you to work at that level every day beyond that! You aren't a trout-flavored yogurt dispenser! You need time to recover from projects that big. All of that content didn't come from nowhere. It took years to gather that intel. They don't care. As far as they know, it all came from a hammer-space portal that you are hiding from them. They are convinced that you are some sort of "Techno-mancer"

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:26

>>21
I think you are narcissistic. Your passive-aggressive tendencies (blaming society, elitist thinking, etc) are quite a good marker for this.
I'm no psychologist, and I doubt you yourself have a psychology degree. Could you please recite the Freud's thesis? What was the most important work of Carl Jung?

A sociopath is more like a calculator. He does the math and does what he needs to do to get whatever he needs at that moment.
No. I'm a sociopath, because I grown up in isolation, not because I'm inborn autist. I'm just have bad manners and don't understand social cues.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:29

>>25
I believe everyone suffers from that. It's a cultural barrier which has prevented the New World Order from succeeding. How can you have world domination if your own subjects can't understand you?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:30

>>21
A sociopath is more like a calculator.
You are likely confusing sociopath with psychopath.

There is a huge difference: http://voices.yahoo.com/sociopath-vs-psychopath-there-difference-1906224.html

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:31

>>26
Subjects can understand you, because almost everyone now knows english.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:34

>>25

Freud has no place in modern psychology.

>>27
No, sociopath is a behavioral description from the dsm. Psychopath falls under sociopathy, but also takes in internal motives.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:36

Nikita, did you fuck Karina yet? You know, the girl who commented on your IQ test. The one who likes K-ON and ponies.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:37

>>29
No, sociopath is a behavioral description from the dsm. Psychopath falls under sociopathy, but also takes in internal motives.
I've no idea, but I'm not calculating, just hysteric and emotional.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:38

It is a spectrum anyway:

narcissist >-> malignant narcissist >-> sociopath.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:41

>>30
I doubt it is possible to make any real-life friendship with imageboard people (at least I never hard about it), not speaking about sex.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:43

>>30
Anyway, I act mostly as annoyance to Russian board, because I create no interesting threads and just whine about having no job or life.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 14:45

Here is another retarded resource:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath

This one says sociopaths are more controlled than psychopaths, but other resources see the psychopath as the more controlled one. The truth is, that psychopath is replaced in the DSM for sociopath and that only the behavioral treats are preserved. If you don't have the tendency to be violent, then you are not a sociopath.
Thus white collar sociopaths are called nowadays psychopaths, because they don't have the tendency to be violence and seem to be celebrated by the media and science.

That is somewhat funny in my eyes. It is like sheep celebrating the power and the wildness of the wolf.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 20:08

LOL, you can tell that is a fake post. But to publicly display your face with spouting things that are not relevant to your candidacy, will definitely mark you as unemployable, Nikita cages.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 20:45

If you can not find a job, but want to eat, it is permissible in retaliation to any girl / child slaughter, disembowel and eat?  The Company is his own fault, that refused to give me a job and I upekli Durkee.  Why do the other children were taught, and I was transferred to the home?  I do not cook, but human flesh probably boil as possible, right?
This is not something that you put on a resume.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 20:53

Troll recently divorced here ... not even cleverly for our brethren ...
Forum trolls are the most pathetic trolls. They wouldn't last five minutes in the face of our Nikita.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 20:54

>>34
| I doubt it is possible to make any real-life friendship with imageboard people (at least I never hard about it), not speaking about sex.

yes it is possible ^^

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 21:16

>>39
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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 21:47


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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 21:50

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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 22:09

>>42
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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 22:11

>>43
Holy fuck, /g/ shitstain. This "LEL" shit was a stupid way of mocking /g/ shits like you, not a widely-approved way of replying to a post you don't like.

Why don't you go back there: http://boards.4chan.org/g/

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 22:23

>>43
Who in the godliving fuck are you trying to quote (because you didn't even get the quotes right), cum/g/uzzler?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-14 22:51

>>44
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Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 0:43

>>44
>implying you didn't bring it on yourselves

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 0:57

>>44
Actually the "LEL" shit was a stupid way of mocking the stupid french ass who created the stupid "E/G/IN" word as a stupid way of mocking imaginary people from /g/.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:00

>>39
yes it is possible ^^
I bet you had sex with most of /prog/ denizens: Sussman sadomized with his trousers snake, while you diligently licked the froze void.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:05

>>37
Why not? That is valid intimidation: if I won't get a job, then I would have to take my revenge on society. Children are hold dear in our society, so promising to harm a child should have some effect on persons refusing me programming job. Do they want me to feast on they children or they want me to get a job?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:08

this board is really exactly like that Shreddinger story with the cats for me (the observer cat in this case, but read the whole thing its quite mind blowing)
if I don't visit then its a good board but I can never know because if I visit then it turns to a state of shit exactly like the guy who open the box and find the cats are all dead!

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:13

>>50
they don't want you anywhere near them, their family or their cat.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:15

>>50
Nikita, I just want to say that there would never be another person that could ever take your place. No one else could say something so messed up and make it sound rational. But with that said you shouldn't have that on your resume if you are seeking employment.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:20

>>53
Ok. You look like a nice person. While you are here, what are the prerequisites to read articles like "Solubility enhancement of paclitaxel using a linear-dendritic block copolymer" (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378517313003864)

are there something like SICP or other intro book for this kind of papers?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:34

>>3
why does she post a lot of porn?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:53

>>54
I'm interested in reading this article, because paclitaxel looks is important for virus design and could be used to cell devision.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 1:53

>>56
could be used to control cell division.
self fix

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:04

>>54
what are the prerequisites to read articles like "Solubility enhancement of paclitaxel using a linear-dendritic block copolymer"
Well, a first grade education for starters.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:08

>>58
Where can I get it, if I have no school education?

Name: 53 2013-08-15 2:13

>>54
Chemistry (especially organic chemistry), statistics, physics, human anatomy, molecular biology, and biochemical medicines.

are there something like SICP or other intro book for this kind of papers?
Haha, no. Computer science is by far the simplest field in math or science by virtue of being the youngest. It needs only 80 or so years of background. You can't write an introduction to a field that has over 500 years of study put into it in a single book.

And I'm not even going to bother making you a reading list since we all know that you're just going to call them jewish and not learn a fucking thing from them.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:17

>>60
And I'm not even going to bother making you a reading list since we all know that you're just going to call them jewish and not learn a fucking thing from them.
There is not a single tutorial written by a goy on the subject of cell biology? What happened to all these Japanese and British scientists? They left no school book?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:20

>>60
You can't write an introduction to a field that has over 500 years of study put into it in a single book.
Most of 500 years were in circles and the basic structures should be simple, if you replace latin names with plain english. I.e. write W2L (Water 2 LSD) instead of H2O

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:24

>>61
There is not a single tutorial written by a goy on the subject of cell biology?
Why would there be a tutorial written about cell biology at all? That's not something you work on in your garage.

What happened to all these Japanese and British scientists?
They still involve things like quantum effects in photosynthesis or infinitesimal electrons to do chemical bonding. You wouldn't be interested.

And honestly the fact that you're still obsessed over the source of the information (as if it would be any different if a goy wrote it) shows that you don't really want to learn how to accomplish your goal. You want to feel like you are doing something: pretending to learn while still maintaining your `ideology' that demands that you exclude all things you perceive Jewish, no matter how fundamental it is to your cause or how much it hurts you to insist.

How do I keep getting dragged into writing this shit? I don't even like you. You threatened to hurt my lolies, I hate you now.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:30

>>62
Most of 500 years were in circles and the basic structures should be simple, if you replace latin names with plain english.
Would math be simpler if we changed the names of the numbers? Pushing notation around can only simplify it a certain extent, and that certain extent is lost once a good understanding of the subject is achieved anyway.

write W2L (Water 2 LSD) instead of H2O
Oh my fucking god. Do you have any clue what you are writing? Kill yourself. KILL YOURSELF. You are not fit to do any sort of chemistry. I wouldn't trust you to mix baking soda and vinegar. Wow.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:31

>>63
Why would there be a tutorial written about cell biology at all? That's not something you work on in your garage.
well if there is an OS writing tutorial (http://wiki.osdev.org/Tutorials), why there can't be a molecular biology tutorial/howto?

They still involve things like quantum effects in photosynthesis or infinitesimal electrons to do chemical bonding. You wouldn't be interested.
Can't they be stripped of infinity? I.e. use a "list of atoms" instead of "continuous space"

And honestly the fact that you're still obsessed over the source of the information (as if it would be any different if a goy wrote it) shows that you don't really want to learn how to accomplish your goal
Why should I love Jews?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:34

>>64
Would math be simpler if we changed the names of the numbers? Pushing notation around can only simplify it a certain extent, and that certain extent is lost once a good understanding of the subject is achieved anyway.
It would be, if we rename "infinity" and "infinitesimal" to "error"

Oh my fucking god. Do you have any clue what you are writing? Kill yourself. KILL YOURSELF. You are not fit to do any sort of chemistry. I wouldn't trust you to mix baking soda and vinegar. Wow.
That is why I'm asking for directions. And I was deprived of school education, which excuses my ignorance. You cant blame a nigger from African village for his ignorance in math.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:35

THERE CANNOT BE FINITE WITHOUT INFINITE

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:37

>>65
well if there is an OS writing tutorial (http://wiki.osdev.org/Tutorials), why there can't be a molecular biology tutorial/howto?
Because it would be pointless to write one.

Can't they be stripped of infinity? I.e. use a "list of atoms" instead of "continuous space"
See, this is exactly why you will never get anywhere. You're going to wait around for perfection instead of working with what you've got. You can't understand abstractions and the concept of modeling. Do you know why science uses those things? Because it works. Even if it isn't how the universe truly operates, it predicts everything perfectly within the scope that we can measure. If it can't be measured, it's meaningless and unscientific. Scientists aren't going to rewrite everything just to please someone like you who can't understand such a simple thing.

Why should I love Jews?
This is another thing. I never said that you have to love Jews. You can hate them. You can dream of killing them. But if you want to get anywhere, you're going to have to learn from them.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:42

>>66
It would be, if we rename "infinity" and "infinitesimal" to "error"
No, it wouldn't, it would just be changing the name. You can say ``As x approaches infinity'' or ``As x increases without bound'', but it has the same meaning. And giving up infinitesimals means giving up calculus, which means giving up all of physics since the 1400s. A ``pure'' discrete mathematics is not worth it.

That is why I'm asking for directions. And I was deprived of school education, which excuses my ignorance. You cant blame a nigger from African village for his ignorance in math.
If he claims that voodoo is superior and that the White Man is using science as imperialism, I can call him a stupid ignorant nigger, and I would be right.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:43

>>67
There cannot be a correct solution, without incorrect one?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:47

>>70
shut up you dumb russian

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:47

>>69
No, it wouldn't, it would just be changing the name. You can say ``As x approaches infinity'' or ``As x increases without bound'', but it has the same meaning. And giving up infinitesimals means giving up calculus, which means giving up all of physics since the 1400s. A ``pure'' discrete mathematics is not worth it.
It would! Because assuming existence of N+1 for any natural N is an error.

See, this is exactly why you will never get anywhere. You're going to wait around for perfection instead of working with what you've got. You can't understand abstractions and the concept of modeling.
You don't need infinitesimals for modelling. You can still accept that there is some N, for which there is no N+1.

Because it would be pointless to write one.
And writing OS tutorial isn't pointless? At least biology tutorial could promote healthy life-style, while OS tutorials are just harmful waste of time and bits.

This is another thing. I never said that you have to love Jews. You can hate them. You can dream of killing them. But if you want to get anywhere, you're going to have to learn from them.
Why can't we learn from Japanese instead? At least they have no Yahweh.


If he claims that voodoo is superior and that the White Man is using science as imperialism, I can call him a stupid ignorant nigger, and I would be right.
I never claimed such things.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:48

>>71
finite = correct
infinite = incorrect

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:48

>>68
unscientific
big deal, it seems the labrats have tiny minds with technology that is quite simple compared to superior civilization out there

needing to measure everything
stupid close minded autists
typical applied math scum

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:48

>>70
Tautology.¬(S)=¬S Every solution that is not the correct solution is an incorrect solution.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:53

>>75
u think ur smart kid
i bet u aint godel level

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 2:56

>>72
It would! Because assuming existence of N+1 for any natural N is an error.
You don't need infinitesimals for modelling. You can still accept that there is some N, for which there is no N+1.
Whatever, I don't care. Believe what you want. There is no amount of arguing or proofs that I can present that will dissuade you.

And writing OS tutorial isn't pointless? At least biology tutorial could promote healthy life-style, while OS tutorials are just harmful waste of time and bits.
Anyone can write an OS. Even tdavis can and he's fucking crazy. You can't see the results of molecular biology experiments without expensive equipment that is out of reach for 99% of people. The only people who would benefit from such a tutorial would be students, and they already have textbooks and lectures for that. Then there is the fact that a tutorial is something that glosses over most of the topic and just shows how to use the basics. There is no tutorial on the technical workings of the linux kernel scheduler because anyone who was going to do anything with it would have the resources to read the real documentation or the source.

Why can't we learn from Japanese instead? At least they have no Yahweh.
The western world write science. Japan entered the game far too late to provide any useful basis on their own. They use the same foundations of science that the west uses.

I never claimed such things.
Yeah....

>>74
That's real fuckin' neato!

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 4:20

>>77
Whatever, I don't care. Believe what you want. There is no amount of arguing or proofs that I can present that will dissuade you.
Can you prove, that matter is infinite?

Anyone can write an OS. Even tdavis can and he's fucking crazy.
What is the point in his OS?

You can't see the results of molecular biology experiments without expensive equipment that is out of reach for 99% of people.
Can't you do a molecular simulation?

The only people who would benefit from such a tutorial would be students, and they already have textbooks and lectures for that.
Can you take me as a student? What should I do to become one? Why college refuse to admit persons without school degree?

The western world write science. Japan entered the game far too late to provide any useful basis on their own. They use the same foundations of science that the west uses.
Yet the scientific foundation could be cleansed of its religious parts, that the calculus. I'm sure you can sum an integral without mathematics. Just take sufficiently small quantities.

Then there is the fact that a tutorial is something that glosses over most of the topic and just shows how to use the basics.
Then what should I do, if I want to work in molecular biology?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 4:27

Yet the scientific foundation could be cleansed of its religious parts, that the calculus. I'm sure you can sum an integral without mathematics. Just take sufficiently small quantities.

wat

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 4:36

>>75
Your tautology isn't an existential theorem. You just claimed:

(¬(S) = ¬S) → ∃¬S

Which could be used to prove untrue theorems.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 4:37

>>78
There is no proof for infinite matter, it's simply a guess based on the evidence we see. There is no evidence so we will presume there is not infinite matter.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 4:50

>>81
what is the evidence for "infinite" matter?


>>79
If a `religion' is defined to be a system of ideas that contains unprovable statements, then Godel taught us that mathematics is not only a religion, it is the only religion that can prove itself to be one. -- John D. Barrow, Between Inner Space and Outer Space, Oxford University Press, 1999, p 88.

Suppose we loosely define a religion as any discipline whose foundations rest on an element of faith, irrespective of any element of reason which may be present. [Atheism], for example, would be a religion under this definition. But mathematics would hold the unique position of being the only branch of theology possessing a rigorous demonstration of the fact that it should be so classified. -- H. Eves, Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt, 1969.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:00

>>78
Can you prove, that matter is infinite?
The standard model, the major contenders for the Grand Unified Theory of Everything, nor fringe theories that are taken seriously claim that there is an infinite amount of matter. In fact, there is pretty conclusive evidence that matter is finite. No one ever said that it was infinite, only that numbers are, which are a priori and are not dependent on the natural universe to ``exist''.

What is the point in his OS?
He write it for fun, or maybe to please God. Who knows what his motivations are.

Can't you do a molecular simulation?
Yes, you could. It has to be horribly simplified to the point that it probably won't accurately reproduce reality though. Suppose you want to simulate the interactions of particles in a 512*512*512 area. That's 134217728 units3. Huge amount of memory for such a small space. Now lets fancy what it would mean to be realistic: Wolfram|Alpha claims that a human cell is 2.25*10-15m3, while a hydrogen atom is 6.545*10-32m3, so you can fit 3.438*1016 hydrogen atoms (the smallest particle you need to simulate for a mostly-realistic model) into a cell.

Then you have to have them all interact in all three dimensions at the same time. You sure as shit aren't going to be doing that in real-time. It would take a supercomputer months to work through a few milliseconds, especially when you figure in how much fucking swap space you need to get the memory to realistically simulate a single cell. Now try doing a few hundred of them.

Can you take me as a student?
No. Not now, not later, not ever. You're a cannibal who eats little girls when you don't get what you want. You've already declared your intent of building biological and chemical weapons for terroristic reasons. Why would anyone want to associate with you? I'm not going to end up in a secret prison being waterboarded because of you.

What should I do to become one?
You're best hope is probably to start with Khan Academy (I've never used it, but I'm fairly certain that much of it is aimed at school-age children), then maybe Coursera (though I never really used it either and it looks kinda dumb). What you need most is to learn some fucking humility though.

Why college refuse to admit persons without school degree?
To keep out the riff-raft like you. They'd probably keep out anti-social looking people like the rest of us if they could, but the laws usually say they can't.

Yet the scientific foundation could be cleansed of its religious parts, that the calculus. I'm sure you can sum an integral without mathematics. Just take sufficiently small quantities.
Maybe you should change your life goal to redefining math. I'm serious, it doesn't require going to college and making connections with professors who recommend you for research positions, and you can do it all from home. The math department is cheap and used to autistic faggots who can't maintain a conversation, because they don't need to bring in grants. You have a much better shot of getting a position through math skills than you do at anything else.

Then what should I do, if I want to work in molecular biology?
Your mother really fucked you up. Like, really, really bad. It sucks, but those were the cards that you were dealt. I'm sorry. I have no advice for you here and see no way that you could, at thirty, accomplish that. You aren't a teenager, where people are forgiving about stuff like that, and even want to bet on your success because it makes them feel good about themselves. We are all (hopefully) adults here, and we don't get treated that way. You're thirty. No one is going to give you a chance. They hate you. They hate me. We're just pawns to be exploited now. This is adult life. The stuff about ``follow your dreams'' is meant for children, not to actually encourage them to believe it, but to shield them from the realities of the world. You can continue your NEET life with hope but live in an ultimately doomed world, or you can give up and live in reality. Your reality: the time for you to become a molecular biologist and actually have a job has come and gone, if it was even ever there in the first place.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:05

Don't they have those high schools aimed for adults in Russia? I'm sure you could get into a university if you really tried Nikita.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:11

>>83,84
Don't they have something like a GED in Russia? In the US, even if you dropped out in middle school, you can get a GED at thirty, go to community college for a couple of years, then transfer to university.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:18

>>84
Russian adult school (evening school) teaches only the last two years, requiring previous school education and school diploma to attend. I have no diploma, so I'm not allowed. The only way for me to get into adult school is to get fake diploma, which costs like $1000 and they still can easily check if it is fake, in which I'll go to jail (yep! in russia they give you jail sentence for faking school diploma: http://www.gudok.ru/zdr/174/?ID=913374&archive=30669)

>>85
You can't drop out of middle school in Russia. Only if your parents transfer you to homeschooling and you waste time there, like I was. And Russian education is very corrupt, so teachers allow student to pass all exams, even if student know nothing (just auto-set passing grades).

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:29

>>86
Russia sucks. Emigrate to the US or something. You're still better than the Mexicans.

yep! in russia they give you jail sentence for faking school diploma
Yeah, that's called fraud. You'll go to jail almost anywhere for that.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:31

>>83
The standard model, the major contenders for the Grand Unified Theory of Everything, nor fringe theories that are taken seriously claim that there is an infinite amount of matter. In fact, there is pretty conclusive evidence that matter is finite. No one ever said that it was infinite, only that numbers are, which are a priori and are not dependent on the natural universe to ``exist''.
Then why the theory itself rests on infinite foundation?

He write it for fun, or maybe to please God. Who knows what his motivations are.
Well, someone then could read biology tutorials for fun. And he can even do some controlled experiments, catching a few cats and feeding them various substance, including placebo. Just imagine Terry Davis doing chemistry!


Yes, you could. It has to be horribly simplified to the point that it probably won't accurately reproduce reality though. Suppose you want to simulate the interactions of particles in a 512*512*512 area. That's 134217728 units3. Huge amount of memory for such a small space. Now lets fancy what it would mean to be realistic: Wolfram|Alpha claims that a human cell is 2.25*10-15m3, while a hydrogen atom is 6.545*10-32m3, so you can fit 3.438*1016 hydrogen atoms (the smallest particle you need to simulate for a mostly-realistic model) into a cell.
Well, we are getting close to that. At least protein folding is no possible on home computers, so you can do a lot of exploration, without any lab equipment or dangerous substance. You can probably derive most of chemistry, directly from basic nuclear laws - i.e. determinate all properties of substance from its number of protons.

We just need a SICP-level tutorial to get people started.

No. Not now, not later, not ever. You're a cannibal who eats little girls when you don't get what you want. You've already declared your intent of building biological and chemical weapons for terroristic reasons. Why would anyone want to associate with you? I'm not going to end up in a secret prison being waterboarded because of you.
That is because society injured me. How can I take my revenge?

Maybe you should change your life goal to redefining math. I'm serious, it doesn't require going to college and making connections with professors who recommend you for research positions, and you can do it all from home. The math department is cheap and used to autistic faggots who can't maintain a conversation, because they don't need to bring in grants. You have a much better shot of getting a position through math skills than you do at anything else.
People, like Norman Wildberger, already working on more sensible science foundations. In fact, a lot of less known mathematician opposed Set Theory, since its inception.

Your mother really fucked you up.
That is because my mom is no scientist and her own education was limited to communist writing and history of CPSU, while her diploma work was something like "Tibetan Paintings". So she, as humanities person, thinks that education is redundant and a person knowing history of CPSU isnt much better than person ignorant of it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:31

>>82
typical atheist retard who needs ``evidence''

i trust my mind, not my eyes

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:36

>>88
And he can even do some controlled experiments, catching a few cats and feeding them various substance, including placebo

I'm not going to let that happen you fucking faggot russian.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:37

>>87
Russia sucks. Emigrate to the US or something. You're still better than the Mexicans.
America is already full of emigrants. Besides, I could probably find some entry level IT job in Moscow, but it is already too far away a trip, and Moscow has just too much Jews for my liking.

Yeah, that's called fraud. You'll go to jail almost anywhere for that.
Hey, man! That is just a school diploma, and most people get it for free anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:47

Ah, it's funny reading this thread as a Jew who is working on his masters in quantum chemistry.

שאלוהים יהיה איתך

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:48

>>88
Wildberger
Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:52

>>92
Hope you die from some hereditary genetic disease, kike.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:55

>>88
Then why the theory itself rests on infinite foundation?
I'm not discussing this again.

Well, someone then could read biology tutorials for fun. And he can even do some controlled experiments, catching a few cats and feeding them various substance, including placebo. Just imagine Terry Davis doing chemistry!
Two hundred years too late for that to be interesting. No one is going to pay you to torture cats, and you're not going to be learning anything doing that you couldn't have read from a book. The closest thing to that is putting make-up on monkeys to see if it turns their skin blue, and even that is slowly being outlawed.

Well, we are getting close to that.
No, no we aren't. Even advanced fluid dynamics and chemical reaction simulations require leasing supercomputer time. Simulation of quantum phenomenon results in an exponential slowdown on classical computers. We're still waiting on room-temperature superconductors before that is feasible for the home user.

You can probably derive most of chemistry, directly from basic nuclear laws - i.e. determinate all properties of substance from its number of protons.
Why? We've already done that. It's called the periodic table of elements. It's been around for decades. You don't need computers for that.

We just need a SICP-level tutorial to get people started.
All the low hanging fruit is already taken. You're not going to be paid to be a hobbyist with a cursory understanding of chemistry. This isn't the tech world where you can learn Ruby in a weekend and land a code-monkey job. People who actually know their shit are a dime a dozen. A SICP-level introduction to chemistry means absolutely nothing. Just because you know the chemical formula of meth doesn't mean that you can start cooking perfect meth.

Also, SICP, while a very good undergraduate textbook on computer science (better than pretty much every book like it that I've ever seen, and far superior to what passes as CS education in most classes), it barely treads the surface of computer science itself. Granted, you'll never need much more unless you want to write circlejerking shit in Haskell, but it is still only an introductory text that omits most of the math and logic behind it (which is boring stuff that I don't really understand anyway).

That is because society injured me. How can I take my revenge?
You can't. No matter what you do, no one will care. In fact, they never cared in the first place, and they don't even acknowledged your anger. Nothing you do will ever make them care about you. Even if you lash out, they will destroy you. When a sandnigger blows himself up in a desert, no one gives too shits about why he did it. All we see is a stupid sandnigger who blew himself up like stupid sandniggers do.

Dismiss this idea immediately.

In fact, a lot of less known mathematician opposed Set Theory, since its inception.
No one takes them seriously. They're main objections (much like yours) are always crap like "but that can't be!" without being able to provide any evidence as to why that can't be. Though, theirs are still better than yours, because yours relies on a global Jew conspiracy that somehow has an interest in forcing infinity.

I will not argue about infinity any further, by the way. We both know that argument is going to be a perpetual stalemate between us and is a waste of both of ours time.

That is because my mom is no scientist and her own education was limited to communist writing and history of CPSU, while her diploma work was something like "Tibetan Paintings". So she, as humanities person, thinks that education is redundant and a person knowing history of CPSU isnt much better than person ignorant of it.
Yeah, that's pretty useless. What does she do for work?

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 5:56

>>94
Ah, one thing I for sure inherited from my Ashkenazi parents is my above 150 IQ!

Shalom indeed, dumb russian goy.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:01

>>54
yes there is a tactic but it takes time and dedication. start with a paper and search the references. look them up and repeat the process until there are no new references. choose another random paper and repeat process until satisfied. the pile before is your sicp

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:04

>>91
America is already full of emigrants.
This, by definition, cannot be true.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:05

>>12
else I would have no choice but to kill and rob somebody.
nikita

Enjoy getting your face smashed beyond recognition and hopefully death.

I doubt they can make you any uglier anyways.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:06

>>97
No one cites Dr. Seuss in their treatises on Ulysses you dumb faggot. That is a horrible way to learn. Don't mislead him, he's perfectly capable of doing that himself.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:14

>>54
yes there is a tactic but it takes time and dedication. start with a paper and search the references. look them up and repeat the process until there are no new references. choose another random paper and repeat process until satisfied. the pile before is your sicp

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:31

>>97
Where do you look for references? How does this systematize your knowledge into working model? I'm pretty sure that without good foundation such tactics would take more than your life.

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:37

>>95
yours relies on a global Jew conspiracy that somehow has an interest in forcing infinity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
Mathematical topics typically emerge and evolve through interactions among many researchers. Set theory, however, was founded by a single paper in 1874 by Georg Cantor.

Georg Cantor was born in 1845 in St. Petersburg, Russia, where his father was a merchant. The father, Georg Waldemar Cantor, had Jewish parents. -- Loren Graham, Naming Infinity, p. 25

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cantor#Cantor.27s_ancestry
Cantor was frequently described as Jewish in his lifetime. In 1874, Cantor married Vally Guttmann. As a Jewish (Ashkenazic) surname, Guttmann comes from the male given name Gutman.
http://www.ancestry.com.au/facts/Kantor-family-history-sct.ashx
Cantor is jewish (Ashkenazic) occupational name for a cantor, an official of a synagogue whose duty is to sing liturgical music and leads prayers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Fraenkel
Fraenkel was a fervent Zionist and as such was a member of Jewish National Council and the Jewish Assembly of Representatives He is known for his contributions to axiomatic set theory, especially his addition to Ernst Zermelo's axioms which resulted in Zermelo–Fraenkel axioms.

http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=69757&tstart=0
In 1935 Zermelo resigned from this position. There is no doubt that it
was caused by the firing and mistreatment of Jewish mathematicians, e.g.
that of the algebraist and statistician Alfred Loewy who was removed from
his chair at Freiburg.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number
>In set theory, Hebrew letter aleph (א)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_number
>In mathematics, Hebrew letter ב (beth)

Name: Anonymous 2013-08-15 6:42

>>95
Why? We've already done that. It's called the periodic table of elements. It's been around for decades. You don't need computers for that.
Periodic table doesn't state the properties of matter - i.e. periodic table  wont say why mercury is liquid at room temperature or what relations it has with other elements.

Don't change these.
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