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Animation Appreciation Thread #9

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-11 7:12

The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/

Other websites: http://pastebin.com/r2Vcy4b2

Animation on Twitter, Tumblr and Youtube:
http://pastebin.com/CQa8wU3q

Previous threads:
#1 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1291816034 | #2 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1314681601
#3 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1325612276 | #4 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1336754773
#5 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1346337747 | #6 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1349463339
#7 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1350859696 | #8 http://dis.4chan.org/read/anime/1353020474

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:32

>>518

just the festival arc delievered so many great "sakuga" moments. It's ridiculous not to mention it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:32

>>517 DAMN! you are pretty fast!

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:32

>>518
Not saying it should win, but not even a single mention? It strikes me odd.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:32

>>518

No one is a "KyoAni fanboy" in here. We're just people who appreciate the art and craft of animation production, in all its details. If some well produced works happen to be connected with this or that studio, so be it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:33

>>518
troll/10

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:37

A lot of people just don't pay attention to character animation and they also don't get the difference between hand drawn and CG animation.

The average anime fan probably thinks Aquarion EVOL is animated better than Hyouka or K-On.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:37

| difference between hand drawn and CG animation.

CG animation is still animation though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:39

>>520

Thanks for the translation.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:42

Gaijin web animator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxKnd24YyPA

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:43

>>526
I'm sure the typical anime fan can distinguish CGI from traditional animation easily enough. It's pretty common to see people complain about the quality of CGI in anime.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:46

>>524
Well , it sounds like it no ?
Because bashing other hard works for just enlighting Hyouka all the time is pretty redonding.

You could talk about other animation from Madhouse for example

No one talk about some nice element in BTOOM for example (okay they are very few ) etc etc

Okay Kyoani did a great job but they are not alone doing this.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:58

>>521

You mean the , Hip hop dance ?

I should admit it was great

But oddly i prefer animations dance on Idolmaster Animation
Check this shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCtp4VzyEnU

And Not sure it was rotoscoped dude.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:58

>>531
You could talk about other animation from Madhouse for example
No one talk about some nice element in BTOOM for example

Probably because no one here watches it.
If you want to get people to talk about it then initiate the discussion by posting gifs or some shit from the show.

We'd love some contribution. Complaining doesn't help anything.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:05

>>531

Has it ever dawned on you that it gets mentioned not because it's "KyoAni" but because it is actually very well made, and consistent in quality? As I see it, it's not really a matter of fanboyism as it is a matter of KyoAni hatedom spilling over from other places, suddenly dissing something good simply for being associated with one studio or another. Talking about the technical aspects here, of course.

You might have noticed (or not, as we can see) actually, but most of the time we don't even talk about particular studios but particular animators.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:06

>>531

>little talk about Btoom
>the nice part in it are few

You've answered your own question, anything else?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:07

Ok then fair enough, my bad guys

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:07

>>529 weaboo animator, not gaijin.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:14

>>532

Hyouka was brought into the picture here just now plenty of times because it doesn't have only great animation (as do the dance sessions in idolmaster, which, if you look in the previous threads, were often talked about - I think they were done after references btw, not rotoscoped)  but also good colour direction and lighting, very nice effects, CG that blends in well, clever composition etc, or in short, what the average Joe would call "nice visuals" (can't really say that about idolmaster, can we agree on this? Even though I liked it quite a lot myself).

The general puzzlement was: if they don't care about animation per se, but visuals "as a whole", how come something like Hyouka which ticks all the boxes for that doesn't even get a mention?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:23

>>530

This might surprise you (it sure surprised me) but those are the older guys, going into their twenties at the youngest I'd say. The average teenager nowadays has no idea about that (and doesn't even care) since they grew up with CG. This is anecdotal knowledge though, it's just something I've noticed, so you may (and should) be as skeptical as you want.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:27

>>538
Yeah i see your point

Well you talk about this ?
http://randomc.net/2013/01/02/the-best-of-anime-2012/comment-page-2/

Well to re-assure you , this website was kinda unknow to me
Maybe check the Japanese polls for 2012 ?
RandomC is huge in USA ?

I should say that Fate zero is huge like a block buster for anime of 2012 ?

So not suprised it was mentionned there a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:46


Bahi's animation looks a lot like Yasuo Muroi's especially the way he draws animation smearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyrJ0R75aps

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:55

>>540
Yes we are talking about RandomC.
In terms of English speaking Blogs, RandomC is one of the most popular episodic blogs, (not like Sankaku that just posts trash news)
That Anime of 2012 post has almost 500 replies, it certainly shows alot of people are posting there. That is why we are talking about it in this thread. Since we are an English speaking "community"(can we be called such?) we care about what other English communities have to say on our subject domain.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 11:58

>has almost 500 replies

Correction, I should have said 400. I thought the number was 481 for some reason.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:10

How rare is for an episode to have only one KA?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:17

>>544
1-2 episodes a year?

Is there any solo key animator episode at all from 2012?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:32

>>541 Yasuo Muroi teaching animation http://youtu.be/EzMdiqB_GAs?t=52s

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:37

>>546 Yasuo Muroi http://youtu.be/KhZSKu2xIsg?t=2m14s

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 12:44

Yasuo Muroi website http://karasawa-douga.jimdo.com/%E7%94%BB/

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 13:42

>>533
Yeah okay
So as we speak about BTOOM
check the sakuga mix 11 of great Blue sakuga!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V76u1NnLJY4&list=UUpCuvsi6jTe9wMs2J6DWeSw&index=1
First sakuga of 2013 everyone

Pure awesome

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 14:14

All dat camera in Maoyuu #1.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 14:27

So Taichi Ishidate actually did this part


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUpCuvsi6jTe9wMs2J6DWeSw&v=WN_p-EmVpMs&feature=player_detailpage#t=40s

https://twitter.com/kyouray/status/287275681589633024

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 14:48

Maoyuu OP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cSsaRmpR10
Yasuomi Umetsu, Norimoto Tokura etc..

http://2ch.at/s/20mai00590224.gif

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 15:52

wow nice camera movment

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 16:23

nice OP, too bad the episode was kind of mediocre animated + ugly backgrounds + low-framrate cg camera movement.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 17:52

>>552
nice camera movement let down by bland backgrounds and poor usage of what is on the screen

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 18:45

Maoyuu seems to have some interesting tits sakuga

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 19:25

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0051/8392/products/coloring_book_preview_4_1024x1024.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 19:28

Hey a gif from Neko Kuro II

so awesome , shaftuga again.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/004/2/0/neko_gif_1_by_k_hermann-d5qfuhx.gif
Love the feet movment in the beginning and end
Graceful

sorry for the bad quality

I'll try upload more if i can

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 19:35

>>552
I don't see anything very interesting in there, the action bits last 2 seconds at most and it's hard to appreciate the movement.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 20:39

>>556
which show has the best tits sakuga?
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