/anime/ - Animation Appreciation Thread #9

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-11 7:12

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-03 12:22

>>279 Yuasa needs this animator

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 3:55

Why does Norimitsu Suzuki only work on ED?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 5:06

Imaishi's illustration is on Gainax's toppage.
http://www.gainax.co.jp/img/565_gurrenSP.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 5:10

Yutapon's rough key animation from Sword of Stranger
http://i.imgur.com/3tXPB.gif

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 5:13

>>484
Nice. That's basically the storyboard, is it?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 5:27

>>485

No, they're rough key animation drawings. The 2nd key animator will fill in the detail later.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 5:42

>>486
So that's how 2nd key animation works. Why does that happen though? Shouldn't it be more efficient for the animator to properly draw his whole sequence?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 6:01

>>486
>>487
Depends, sometimes the animator himself will fill in the details himself, sometimes a 2nd key will do it. I think in stranger's case, Yutapon did it himself.

Shouldn't it be more efficient for the animator to properly draw his whole sequence?

I guess working out the camera work, flow, movements, atack sequence requires much more time, skill and effort and that filling in the clothes details and the face can come much later since it is a simpler task.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 6:29

rough key animation drawings mean the director or animator can still change things without that you lose too much time.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:03

http://randomc.net/2013/01/02/the-best-of-anime-2012/comment-page-2

God.. I like Fate/Zero but a lot of retards are pushing me to hate it. A lot of people keep saying it's the show with the best animation in 2012.

Also EVOL? What the fuck?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:12

>>490
It's pretty common for people to mistake detailed artwork with animation. EVOL is an even stranger choice since the artwork wasn't even that polished aside from some of the backgrounds.

Nonetheless, best if you just ignore it. No point in letting some bunch of silly comments warp your opinion.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:18

>>490

Randomc was kinda okay back then.
Now it's full of new bloggers who don't know shit about anime.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:24

>>491

It just saddens me that if they saw it that way why at least couldn't they mention Hyouka. It had beautiful background, spectacular lighting, at times with awesome use of DoF, not to mention BETTER AND CONSISTENT ANIMATION.

Technicality wise in general, Hyouka's way ahead of it. I'm damn baffled.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:28

>>490

Fate/Zero, Black Rock Shooter, Aquarion EVOL, K

Wow that's just insane. Arguably, 2 of those in the list can't can't hold a candle in the animation department.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:51

>>493
Eh, maybe the bloggers there are biased against KyoAni or take their animation for granted

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 7:59

It's decided by popular vote, by people who can't tell the difference between art direction, animation and background art. Of course CGtable would win...

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 8:05

>>490

This is one of the most irritating misconceptions I've seen.

When people say, "it's the whole package and it looks better". We should just shut up and love the things we like. Can't blame them for being as ignorant as Beiberfags.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:01

Yasuhiro Irie retweeted Yutapon's gif
http://i.imgur.com/iY0O4.png

It's going nuts now all over twitter!

https://twitter.com/bahijd/status/287187316232036353

Yutapon is getting all the attention he deserves for animating one of the best sword fight scenes of all time.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:02

What irked me the most in those comments was that guy who went on and on about how it's harder to do action scenes and the like, hence why he's okay with Fate/Zero getting the "best animation" spot. God, I simply do not have enough hands to facepalm enough at that shit...

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:09

holy fucking sakuga madness! http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/702590223.gif?key=270152&Expires=1357309519&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=UdKfON628z-jYjrpfHvPVr0JpvARbjOHscjwXwBctUzsGF7wTbN6SPv85UnmhZaUKIF0OYodZFXdgDoqbFjF1fBpo4F1-xzzRPUrS~4uWGy8mnaDqvzt74MULvZZBL9N6EHrP1t2ycPc2AFekOIoTfsdjJBPVLuiKvNNlind88g_

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:10

>>498
Yasuhiro Irie

Who's that? Anyway, that's certainly Nakamura's finest work yet.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:12

>>500
Access denied...

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:31

>>501
He's a Bones animator and director. He did FMA Brotherhood.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:35

>>501
Yasuhiro Irie is the director of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood dude!
And he is one of the headmasters at Bones.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=3555

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:35

>>503
Thanks. I assume those images of Yutapon's animation were from some Sword of the Stranger animation book?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:39

>>490
Like that one guy said in the comments "Best Animation" should be replaced with "Best Visuals" as that just covers the entire visual category and saying Fate/Zero or K is fine.

But for Best Animation, honestly most of these people do not know a thing about animation. I don't want to come across elitist but damn it's just all wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:40

>>505 maybe, but I think it's from his latest doujin book at comiket
?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 9:47

>>506
There's a simple solution to this problem, just convert more people into sakugafags

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:03

>>500
access denied.
please reupload the gif somewhere else.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:05

>>498

He follows Bahi?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:06

>>508
Not even sakugafags, just have people aware that animation itself is a subset of the visuals in a show. Character design, quality of the background, lighting, color use, any use of post processing filters, CG animation, CG camera work all these make up the visuals. Animation is just another part of it.

When people like RandomC say "Animation" they mean the visual aesthetic in the show. When we say "Animation" we obviously mean the movement, flow and how much "sakuga" something has. Despite the fact they mention "Visuals and fluid movement." They list shows that have nothing in that manner.

Fate/Zero? Mostly just nice composition and filtering. Not much fluid visuals.
Black Rock Shooter? Nice aesthetic and some cool CG here and there. Not much fluid visuals.
Aquarion EVOL? Very subpar work save for some nice detailed backgrounds courtesy of Thomas Romain.
K? It's all in the filtering and color filters. Not much fluid visuals.

I just don't see how Hyouka or other shows could be passed over but including some of these shows instead.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:08

>>506

I would prefer if people are more than sakugafags but have a fucking idea about composition and stuff.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:08

>>507
That is indeed the case.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:17

>>512
>composition and stuff

That's staring to get a bit technical

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:24

>>510
This tool is pretty good to see who is following who
http://friendorfollow.com/bahijd/friends/

Yutapon is following him too.
I remember when Bahi told Yutapon about this clip and Yutapon was totally surprised.
http://youtu.be/4Pm8AYpOJMw?t=3m14s

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:27

>>515
Cool, what did Yutapon say?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:29

>>515
Oh cool, I found the tweet
https://twitter.com/sekise10/status/135934675645505537

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:29

>>511
Another Kyoani fanboy

Too much of them here

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:31

>>516 https://twitter.com/sekise10/status/135934675645505537

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-04 10:31

>>516
It feels weird to have a foreign person say my name lol, I've read the translation for it, I have to say foreign fans certainly know great detail about the working process of Japanese animators, it was really interesting

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