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Animation Appreciation Thread #9

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-11 7:12

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 14:15

>>400
It's annoying to have raw links with nothing to indicate what they are. I'd rather there was some discussion otherwise what's the point of this thread? Everyone just post a link and be done with it? Why don't you just post it on /a/ instead then?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 15:10

Sakuga Effect Anime of 2012: Code Breaker

People you should watch episode 12 and 13

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 15:46

A really cool youtube channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/OldschoolSakuga

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 16:35

>>403
I wonder who runs it. It has to be someone who visits Anipages and follows sakuga twitter accounts.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 16:43

A one-shot anime directed by Kigami that raito-kun mentioned in his blog (the videos that he linked were deleted).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAQCuehzH7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c847RP0XJH8

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 16:54

Nice to see a mad for the Fatal Fury movie.
Speaking of which, the FF Movie had a strong sakuga staff

Director: Masami Obari
Unit Directors(Enshutsu): Nakazawa Kazuto, Masamitsu Hidaka, Takehiro Nakayama
Chief Animation Director: Masami Obari
Animation Directors: Nakazawa Kazuto, Hirotoshi Takaya, Takehiro Nakayama

KA: Atsuko Ishida, Eiji Suganuma, Fumihide Sai, Genichi Murakami, Hidenori Matsubara,
Hirofumi Suzuki, Hiroyuki Kanbe, Hiroyuki Nishimura, Hiroyuki Okuno, Hisashi Ezura
Jiro Kanai, Katsuyuki Tamura, Kazunobu Hoshi, Kazuya Tsurumaki, Kazuyuki Kobayashi
Keiichi Ishikura, Keiichi Satou, Keiji Gotoh, Kenichi Shimizu, Kenji Mizuhata
Koichi Taguchi, Koji Takeuchi, Kou Yoshinari, Kouichi Arai, Kouji Matsuyama
Masahiro Yamane, Masakazu Kawazoe, Masami Nagata, Masanori Nishii, Mitsuru Ishihara
Mizue Ogawa, Osamu Sato, Satoshi Isono, Shiho Takeuchi, Shingo Suzuki
Shinsaku Kozuma, Shinya Sasaki, Shuji Nakanishi, Soichiro Matsuda, Takahiro Kishida
Takeshi Honda, Takuya Saito, Tsukasa Tannai, Tsukasa Yamane, Yasushi Muraki
Yoh Yoshinari, Yooichi Ueda, Yoshimitsu Ohashi, Yukinori Umetsu

Yoshinari's, Muraki, Matsuda, Honda, Nakazawa, Takaya, Arai, Kozuma, Tsurumaki.. a pretty good team.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 19:27

>>397
Prism Nana is pretty much a series of music videos, right? Not an OVA series of some sort?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 20:00

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-01 21:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V76u1NnLJY4

Watching this makes me kinda miss Sessha's animation. It's been a while since I saw any new work from him.

Name: PRISM NANA VIDEO POWER RANKNGS 2013-01-01 21:43

1)02 まじかるエンジン
2)07 星空コネクション (based Tanaka)
3)01 ぷりズムたいむ~魔法の指でタッチして~
4)05 萌って☆メルって★タッチしてっ!
5)03 白鷺流舞
6)04 HELLO,DEAR MY FRIENDS
8999) REACH FOR THE BEACH (CGI everywhere)

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 1:08

What do you guys think of Shinbo's directing style? Upon watching Nekomonogatari, I thought his style could get rather tiresome to watch especially after prolonged viewing. I really don't know how to describe the cinematography techniques he uses, but I just think it's too frequent and eventually I just start noticing all the gimmicks that he uses over and over again.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 1:17

>>411
My thought exactly.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 2:30

>>411

the cinematography techs he uses are pretty standard...he just does a lot of jarring editing between cuts (which is what everyone notices the most. It isn't always effective like you point out though, I think he does it because it's a clever way around a tight budget since he tries to maximize effect with the least amount of animation possible) His shot composition skills are quite good and he uses wide/telephoto lens shots a lot. I think his biggest strength is shot composition, there's a lot of emblematic stuff going on in there, which is similar to Ikuhara's style. I think raito-kun said they both got it from Osamu Dezaki.

overall I think Shinbo is a pretty effective director...most of the time. The production schedules really don't help him but I guess that's what he likes.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 2:36

>>413
he just does a lot of jarring editing between cuts

Yes, I think that's the problem that I have with his directing in Nekomonogatari #1. The conversations between Araragi and Tsukihi/Hanekawa just didn't flow nicely to me. I just didn't like what I saw. Episode 2 didn't seem to have that problem in my opinion.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 3:09

>>414

that's probably because there's more...well "action" in episode 2. Like consider the scene where Araragi sees Black Hanekawa's silhouette and chases after her. The style works better here because there's more to work in terms shot composition. Not to mention the jarring cuts and eccentric editing complement the tone and context of the scene so it works well and "flows" better. The tension of the narrative is conveyed by the "tension" of the shots so to speak.

In the conversations it doesn't always work. Whenever there are conversations in the monogatari series, there's a bit of a disconnect between what happens on the screen and what happens audio wise. Sometimes it works in favor of the scene. The editing can accentuate some comedic timings or add impact to a line of dialogue. Though this really only works when said dialogue is engaging in some way. And that varies a lot, sometimes a couple lines go on for too long and the direction exacerbates the issue by being superfluous.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 4:32

any concrete examples for the jarring direction in episode 1?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 5:54

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 6:03

>>417
http://imgur.com/6GOI1
That was too weird for me.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 7:19

>>418
looks too much like jelly

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 8:09

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 8:23

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 8:57

I will never understand the big hype about Bahi.

His Kids on the Slope scene doesn't look very impressive, it wias even pretty off.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 8:57

>>195
Why would Yamakan be trained under Kigami if he's not an animator? It's not like Kigami can direct. What did he teach him?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:05

It's not like Kigami can direct.
But he can and he does?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=39704

Having said that, it's still strange for someone with a strong animator background to mentor a non-animator. Someone on /a/ said Ishihara trained Yamakan instead.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSlu2qF8AOs

Making of 009 RE:CYBORG

Kamiyama talks about using limited animation at around 20 minutes in

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:38

>>422 maybe it's because he's been able to get so far just through the internet.

Or maybe because no one has ever achieved something like that in the anime industry before. who knows..

JD only animated his first 3 shots and people are still talking about them.
It doesn't matter if it's good or bad stuff, the animation was "interesting" and that's why people can't forget about it.

Some people love his shots, some people hate them, but fact is that he managed to create a big hype just by animating 3 of the most interesting shots in the most interesting climax scene of Apollon.

There are animators out there who have animated over 100 shots and didn't achieve anything yet, Bahi only needs to animate 3 shots and the whole internet will talk about it, there must be something special about his animation and we need special and different stuff to get entertained.

Also Bahi created Shithead Action, wich is for me one of the coolest gif-animations on web.

It's just like Yutapon and Iso. They just need to animate a few cuts and everyone is going nuts, in both positive and negative ways.

When Yutapon drew those 3 black & white frames in the new Star Driver movie, he received a lot of hate on twitter but also positive respond by some sakuga fans.

Remember Wakabayashi's Naruto episode with those fucked up Yamashita shots?
Haters gonna hate, right?

We need people like Bahi and Yamashita in my opinion.

So are these people just considered lucky or talented? Who cares, they enjoy what they do!

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:41

>>426
When Yutapon drew those 3 black & white frames in the new Star Driver movie, he received a lot of hate on twitter

Dude, seriously? Those frames looked awesome, I don't see how it's something that could put off even regular viewers.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:42

>>427 I thought the same but apparently some people are just retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:52

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 9:53

>>426
isn't Ohira the one with most of the haters actually?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:02

I think we are just talking too much about the bahi subject, that's it.
Not that he is a bad animator, I love his sakuga but it's just way too much talk.

People instantly start to hate someone when the person gets mentioned over and over again.

I would suggest that we keep quit now until his Studio 4°c work is out.

Same goes for Iso.

"ISO IS BACK ISO COMEBACK OMG ISO EPISODE IS COMING SOON OMG ISO IS GOD LOLZ BASED ISO "

just stop hyping around.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:04

>>431 keep "quiet"

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:06

>>426

I don't think so.
Everyone says his works are weird but I haven't seen many people talking about his animation in a bad way.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:06

>>431
Relax, the whole Iso thing is just a joke. I don't think people have brought up Iso recently anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:15

>>431 man I would fucking cry if Iso would come back, for real.

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:21

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:45

>>436 what's the song on this MAD? I love it so much!

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 10:58

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 11:02

>>438
It's a chinese website.. so I can't read much but I imagine it is a poll for favourite animators of 2012?

Name: Anonymous 2013-01-02 11:03

>>436
Such an excellent animator with excellent talent for dynamic visuals, I wonder why he stopped animating. I hope he comes back to regular animation one day.

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