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Animation Appreciation Thread #9

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-11 7:12

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 11:08

There's one scene from Chuu2Koi's finale that will make all sakuga fans here wet their pants. Insane animation for the sake of it.

Too bad my stream died during the ending so I couldn't catch the KA list, I'll post it later.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 11:46

>>153
Yeah, makes you realize just how much talent they have to the point where not everyone gets to show off their skills.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 11:52

This part looked incredible.
http://i.imgur.com/bFFq9.jpg

Ishidate involved in two great final episodes back to back.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 12:11

I wonder who did the VANISHMENT THIS WORLD scene.

The effect animation looks amazing.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 12:34

Chuu2Koi finale full credits - Direction/Storyboard: Taichi Motherfucking Ishidate; AD: Chiyoko Ueno; KA: Hiroyuki Takahashi, Hiroshi Karata, Hana Hosoda, Kanae Ookura, Haruka Fujita, Yoshio Minami, Haruka Sagawa, Yuki Kakuda, Tatsutaka Maruko.

More KA than usual. I wonder if Ishidate did some cut uncredited, no way to tell from the shitty himado raw.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 14:03

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 14:26

looking for suggestions here. I am in mood for light hearted school comedies with little romance in them like School Rumble, Itazura na Kiss, Toradora etc. Any suggestions?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 14:49

>>167

Try /r/ on the imageboards, or ANN, AniDB, MAL etc.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 15:58

>>167
Boy Meets World

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 16:43

I wanna know is there other animation styles rather than Kameda Style and Tanaka Style?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 17:23

Arasan Style

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 17:31

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 18:08

>>172
The cut had a Ishidate feeling, and he certainly loves dem FX. But he's not listed in the KA list, so I wouldn't know.

Anyway, Chuuni disappointed me in the animation department, I expected more than just that cut for the finale. Of course the photography and visual production were as gorgeous as ever, but too little dynamism. I hope these Depth of Field shorts feature more than just 3D mechs.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 18:12

Kanada style
Utsunomiya style
Realism style
Drug style
Takeuchi Style
Obari style
Tatsuzo style
Web style

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 18:40

Itano Style

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 19:38

Re: "All KyoAni characters look the same"
http://i1.minus.com/iqgoHkYjJznHL.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 20:32

>>176
Something many people don't take into account is that KyoAni animators are generally brought up in the same school and then work together without outsourcing their work to other studios. A certain degree of similarity can't be avoided. But yeah, the whole EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE KEION thing got out of hand and it's just silly.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 20:33

>>176
Hi there Akai

lel

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 20:57

>>178
So who besides him is a Horiguchi "clone" (for want of a better word) anyway? People seem to talk about this like there's many more, but he's the only one I can think of and the only one I've ever seen mentioned.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 21:11

Why does Akai like Horiguchi's designs? Has he worked at KyoAni before?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 21:20

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 21:27

>>179
Shouko Ikeda has also gotten quite close to her style, like the chart says. Can't think of more individuals, though it's true that she influenced otaku stuff in general. Barely relevant to this thread, but I was reading a trap porn game for uh, scientific purposes, and the art was very much a bad Horiguchi ripoff. Kinda funny since it had a musical theme as well.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 22:14

Does KyoAni's animation school use their currently active animators to teach, or is it a different group in charge?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 23:21

>>183
Ishidate,Kitanohara and Seiichi Akitake are instructors of the animation class.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 23:22

>>183
Kitanohara and Hiroyuki Takahashi give lectures, but I don't know if they're the full-time teachers, and I don't think that's the case.
I'd guess it has to be someone that animated for them, or at least someone that knows how to animate.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-19 23:39

>>185
Takahashi isn't listed on the website anymore.
Seiichi Akitake took his place.
http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/school/course/instructor/

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 0:30

I think my favorite episode of chu2 is still episode #6 in terms of animation. They way the expression are brought using body and faces is so lively, dynamic, and sometimes powerful. There isn't one super good cut, but it's just wonderful as a whole. I could watch the exchange between Yuuta and Isshiki over and over again. This was present in #12 too, but I think less so probably due Kigami not directing. Ueno really deserves her own show.

To contrast this, I think Kayo Hikiyama (1, 4, 12) did a meh job in Chu2. Especially in #12; I thought there were a lot of opportunity where she(?) could have corrected more drawings and add much more dynamic to the expression and make it less stiff and "boring", but she didn't. I liked her episodes in Hyouka much better.

Overall, Chu2 was a bit disappointing in the 2nd half, but still a lot of fun. Here's hoping Tamako Market can be as good as K-On, I have a feeling we'll see a lot of Utsumi x Kadowaki there.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 0:40

>>187
I still think the best Chuu2 episode overall was the Hiroko Utsumi/Miku Kadowaki one. From the storyboard to the expressions, it was really very solid and conveyed the mood of that situation very well.
That team is on fire really, after doing the awesome Hyouka 21 they did this one. Utsumi would be interesting as a supervisor, but I guess that'll never happen unless DO produces a show of their own.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 0:52

I think Kayo Hikiyama (1, 4, 12) did a meh job in Chu2.
Especially in #12

Do you mean 11?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 2:11

>>189
Yeah I meant #11, my bad.

>>188
My overall favorite was #10, but Utsumi's was definitely one of the best. Her approach to acting and storyboarding strikes me as more similar to Takemoto than say, Isihara; and that alone makes me look forward to her episodes. As for her being a surpervisor, I hope this image http://imgur.com/gmj30 will eventually amount to something

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 2:23

Her approach to acting and storyboarding strikes me as more similar to Takemoto than say, Isihara

How do you tell the difference?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 2:45

>>191

Not that guy but Ishihara seems to focus more on the acting of the  characters than Takemoto does.

Takemoto has great sense of shot composition and the flow between shots. Takemoto also uses a lot of fancy cinematography techniques like dutch angle or dolly zoom(Vertigo shot) in his storyboard.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 3:26

Hyouka>Chuu2

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 4:16

I liked Hiroko Utsumi in Hyouka very much... However I find his/her episode here quite flat.

Not that the directing was bad but rather the material given was quite bland.

For me, the most consistent director in Chuunibyou was Kawanami. That guy knows how to deliver gags, and knows how to handle serious moments. If there's anything I'd really want Kawanami to be promoted. However Ishidate and Utsumi are still a good candidate.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 4:51

(taken from 2ch's KyoAni thread)

Yamakan & Ishidate were trained under Kigami.
Kazuya Sakamoto was trained under Takemoto
Noriko Takao     was trained under Yamakan
Hiroko Utsumi     was trained under Tomoe Aratani (the yaoi lovers)
Eisaku Kawanami    was trained under Mitsuyoshi Yoneda
Naoko Yamada    was trained under Ishihara.

New directors:
Taiichi Ogawa
Rika Outa

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 4:54

>>195

If that's true, Yoneda raised a damn good student.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 5:05

>>195
Both Aratani and Yoneda haven't worked on the past 2 KyoAni shows have they?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 5:52

>>197
Aratani left KyoAni sometime around 2009-2010, now works at Nintendo.

Yoneda apparently also left KyoAni but I don't know what he's doing now.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 6:48

Chikara #05's action animation wasn't as good as last week's. Nice smoke animation though, anyone got a staff list?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-20 7:14

>>194
My gripe with Kawanami is that he seems to go too over the top when handling serious moments. It happened in Hyouka 11 too, the conversation between Satoshi and Oreki seemed Oreki had contracted cancer and wasn't aware of it, totally out of scope of the true conflict.
He is awesome at comedy though, great comedic timing.

>>192
Takemoto seems to have been influenced by Shinbo a bit, from his work on Soultaker. I have not actually seen Soultaker, I just read raito-kun's blog and see Takemoto's directing in more recent works, ha.

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