Hating Racists is Racist

All around me I see an incredible injustice being committed every day.  Thousands of racists are being discriminated against, being derided in the media, being shunned from social groups, and being avoided by the population at large.

Their genes are inferior, primative, dating back to prehistoric times, when tribes fought against each other, and had to have an easy way to convince themselves that they should irrationally hate their enemy nations.  Back then it was an advantage to believe that humans should be separated from each other, and that certain ones should be made into slaves or killed.

Racists aren't at fault for the way they are; it's their genes that determine that they will be racist.  Therefore, it's immoral to discriminate against them, they just can't help it.

niggers are shat out like turds. I have proof.

>>1
Racists need to be culled.

>>3
Racist

>>1

Was your brain replaced with a giant pile of shit or what? Racism has nothing to do with genes. Racism is an attitude, which is detemined by the way you were brought up (and as a small factor by intelligence, cause really smart people tend to be not racist at all)

So shut the fuck up, idiot. Also, the period of actual nations built by humans is too short to have affected the genepool in such a big way.

>>5 was the emo loser at school who always laughed several seconds too late.

By racists you mean whites, so doesn't that make you racist?

Everyone is racist. News at 11.

Racism is a predisposition of the white race.

Princeton: You're both Monsters.
Kate Monster: Yeah.
Princeton: Are you two related?
Kate Monster: What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!
Princeton: Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!
Kate Monster: Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you? Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton: No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the sensitive subject of race.

Princeton: Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster: What do you mean?
Princeton: What about that special Monster School you told me about?
Kate Monster: What about it?
Princeton: Could someone like me go there?
Kate Monster: No, we don't want people like you-
Princeton: You see?! You're a little bit racist.
Kate Monster: Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton: I guess we're both a little bit racist.
Kate Monster: Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...
Princeton: But I guess it's true.
Kate Monster:Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Everyone thought the world was flat at one time, as well.

>>11
no just whites

>>12
Right, because niggers don't think!

LOL

but is all this whole ignoring of cultural boundaries really even wise?

>>9
Anti-chan, is that you? You great sociopathic hypocrite with a superiority complex the size of the Mexican gulf!

Racism is a predisposition of everyone.

fixed

It's true too. Read up on ingroup bias, group attribution error,  and the seminal Robber's Cave experiment. People form groups over the stupidest shit (even a coin toss), not just skin colour and culture.

>>15

I wouldn't have said something like that.

>>16
Actually it can be quite beneficial to those who have outsmarted the dumb.

Whereas the practice of slavery before Europeans came along had no racial bias (it was a natural consequence of warfare with neighbours), European slavery had a distict racist character. It labelled a certain race of people as inferior, attributed these inferior characteristics to them and used this as justification to seek them out as targets for exploitation. Before European slavery, the concept of racial inferiority as justification did not exist. It is in this sense that I state that racism is the predisposition of the white race.

the concept of racial inferiority as justification did not exist

hahaha get out

>>19
look up the origins of the word "slave," dumbass.

The concept of class superiority and inferiority has existed in all societies even before civilisation began as many hunter gatherer societies needed some organised menial labour and the men made the women fill this void, even communist societies where everyone is supposed to be equal, the party members live like aristocrats and are free to execute anyone who points this out. In our enlightenned democracies of course this sense is regimented so that we all have the same basic rights which prevent tyranny, but that people must have some of these rights taken away for a period of time if they abuse someone else's rights. This is a form of justified superiority and inferiority and it's extent depends on the utilitarian properties of it's usage. However there are still those who choose to treat others as superior and inferior as a personal choice within the constraints of liberty. For instance many people who use 4chan enjoy running around going "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER LOL!!", which I find offensive as I am black.

Every time a nation conquerred or subjugated another these ideas were implemented on the subjugated and every so often it is applied in a racial manner. It happenned with the Mongol steppe-mongoloids against the Rus white-caucasians and it happenned with the Almuhad arab-caucasians against the Songhai west african negroes (the incident which began the subjugation of sub-saharran Africa by various powers leading up to the triangular slave trade).

Maybe it isn't racism that is the problem, maybe it is discrimination itself, or crime. Crime is the problem. We need to stop people from being bad. That's the heart of it. If you narrow it down. I believe hate is wrong, there is no point in wallowing at how bad things in our world are, of course they are horrible and terrible, but to mourn it is equivalent to mourning the fact that you have itches occasionally or that you have to wear a coat because it is too cold outside occasionally. The essence of combatting evil is not to mourn and hate it's existence, not even if you try to eradicate it with the same vigour as an unemotional automaton with the same objective, because it is unavoidable and there is nothing terrible about something which happens that you should have come to expect.

So...  What you're trying to say is... 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

For instance many people who use 4chan enjoy running around going "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER LOL!!", which I find offensive as I am black.
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I enjoy reading things like that! You are a nigger in need of a coffee emema.

This thread needs more >>22, less >>24.

>We need to stop people from being bad. That's the heart of it.
Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual. Do you want us to be more hiveminded and completely throw away our personality? I for one welcome our new borg overlords.

"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual."

Translation..

"So what if rape ruins a child's life and is tantamount to torture which is bad for the community as a whole, communities are evil so they don't matter, what matters is I enjoy it!"

>>27
translation: harbl

>>26
Fuck the borg, their queen isn't hot like the zerg's!

>>27

These huge leaps of logic are getting fucking annoying. It's like arguing with a three year old. You keep putting words in people's mouths so that you don't have to deal with the fact that you might be completely wrong.

Frankly, I don't see how we jumped from one issue to your apparent rape fetish.

Then again, what do I expect from someone like you? You don't want to appeal to people individually under ANY circumstances. Even in hypotheticals you show an inability to attack ideals based on their individual circumstances.

No one with any degree of sense is just going to fall in line with your way of thinking. Even when, through a great amount of illogical rationalizations, you equate their opinion with being OK with child rape.

If you're going to continue this form of debate, can you at least keep it on Fox News and CNN where all the unreasonable fucktards live? We're trying to have a *real* debate here.

>>30
"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual."

Translation..

"The only crime is crime against the community which is a collectivist concept, which is mildly related to totalitarianism, so if I commit a crime it isn't wrong, so I should be able to."

>>31

Was with you up until "totalitarianism", then you veered right off into what I call the "fuck and lose zone".

Will you guys stop arguing like a bunch of freshman college kids who just learned what wit and satire is and start making logical statements? "So if" doesn't qualify jack-fuck.

jack-fuck

mother-shit?

>>32
You are too stupid to understand my argument. Admit this later if you are too vain to admit this when you next reply, however if you don't reply I will assume you have accepted defeat.

I will redefine my argument as clearly as is grammatically possible, if you still do not understand it I ask that you commit suicide as quickly as possible.

Crimes is very bad for the victim and good for the perpetrator.
If you make a law which prevents crime it is good for a society as everyone in the society will not commit the crime as much and not as much bad will happen.
Sometimes when making laws people make unecessary laws, so we should not assume all laws are good for society.
There is a distinction between laws and what is good for society.
What is good for society is good for individuals and this involves preventing crime, even though crime may benefit the perpetrators.
If someone believes that what is good fo society is wrong, it is because they are criminals and wish to commit crimes that benefit them.
A person who is unwilling to admit this for fear of people knowing what he is may attempt to remove the distinction between laws and what is good for society and claim that ideas which are legitimately good for socciety are unecessary.

An extreme example would be child rape, but there are lesser examples, such as harrasment.

"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual. Do you want us to be more hiveminded and completely throw away our personality? I for one welcome our new borg overlords."

This person wishes to swear and shout at the same person or the same group of people over and over for the rest of their lives, this is not liberty, but the crime of harrasment. He is claiming that harrasment laws are unecessary as they do not permit him to commit the crime of harrasment.

I'm not the anonymous you've been arguing with up until now.

What if say, speeding tickets are good for society, they give it money to build roads and schools and stuff, only they cost everyone who gets one a whole year's salary.  (this is an extreme example).  However, everyone is much better off, only this one person's life is ruined.

Did society commit a crime?

>>35
ALSO:

Lets say that one person has the earning capacity of (average) ten of his fellow citizens.  Is it "bad" for him to have all that money?

>>34

See how rational >>35/>>36 sounds? The bigger question that you dodge is who decides what is good for society? Ha ha: You? You're so fucking illogical, I wouldn't have you decide where to have lunch.

I think the problem is that I understand your arguement too well, in that it's extremist nature immediately strikes some old chords in me.
 
I'm still wondering how in your faggotry riddled mind you got from: "Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual" to "YOU HEAR THAT GUYS? CHILD RAPE IS OK BY THIS DUDE!!!

Racism isn't a race. Learn your words.

AS OPPOSED TO NORMAL RAPE. NORMAL RAPE IS VERY VERY BAD!

>>37
Well, you assume that morality doesn't factor into the equation; we don't rape kids because we have compassion for the kid.  We don't do things because, ignoring compassion here for a second, we don't want that stuff done to us.   So we all agree that certain things just won't happen in our society.  That's what laws are.

But then again, where does it end?  Should be be able to decide that nobody should have more than say, 500,000 dollars worth of wealth? Even then you couldn't stop all the poverty, and you might actually cause a mess... when you take too much, you might destroy industriousness that would otherwise be harnessed for the good of everyone. 

Maybe it's be unwise to mess too much in personal rights.

>>40

Actually, I'm fairly certain morality plays into it and that's where the divide comes in. Who decides what's moral? There's some child rape stuff that's a no brainer. But what about virtually victimless crimes? Like pot smoking. And if pot smoking isn't a victimless crime- then shouldn't tabbacco smoking not be inherantly victimless and therefore illegal as well?

>>41
That's what I'm saying, though I should've proofread my post first.

Does society exist to give everyone the exact same chance and circumstances that everyone else has?  Or does it exist merely to ensure that they have a pretty much equal chance?  And even then, who decided what's equal? 

And then again, this topic was started over someone trying to get people to stop being "bad".  Will it be "bad" to work hard and make more money than the nigger next door who instead of getting a job, gets a girl pregnant and then lives on the welfare that comes pouring in afterwards like he won the lotto?

My honest appraisal of the situation is that it's not always bad to have some inequality, no matter how much that gets commu-facist-socialism-nerds off. We can't waste our resources trying to squeeze the last idiot's standard of living up by a few degrees.  And should that really be the goal of our lives?

>>42
I mean, I realize it's moral to try to give everyone the EXACT same chance.  But in feasibility, it fails.  And trying probably ensures that we won't accomplish anything.

YOU FAIL FOR BEING AN AYN RAND'S DICK SUCKING FAGOROT!!!!!!!!  FUCKING DIE SOB FINANALAND IS SUPERIOR!!!!!!!!!!

>>42

You lose your version of this argument by resorting to using "nigger", in the first place. Someone like you, who's ideals seemed to be steeped in bigotry cannot be trusted to decide what or who is equal. You lack objectivity. Or rather, your version of it flaws the concept with a number of predispositions that you hold.

I'm "black", as well, but I'm not the same guy that said people should stop being bad. I'm the Race/IQ debate guy. Now while "Nigger" doesn't bother me as much as whites would like it to- (I eat the word for breakfast, use it as a greeting among non black friends)- one has to be able to recognise that white commonly don't use that word in bigotted manner unless there's some preconcieved negativity attached to it. (Usually born from ignorance)

I think it's clear that people like you can't be trusted to decide who is idiotic or a "waste of resources". And yes, everyone should have the same equal chances within reason. Yes, that should be the goal. I suspect you'd be singing a different tune if you were born in a third world country where all the first world countries are sucking up your natural resources. Or if you were say: "Born a nigger" where not only do you have to contend with the white perception of how far you should go in life- but a perception held by your own "race" that sets you up for failure.

All of this shit and your commitment to seeing blacks as "niggers" is a consorted effort to not so much as "keep darky down" but to ensure we have a situation of haves vs have nots playing out until the end of human existence.

Look at it this way: This has been playing out for thousands of years just like other so-called "fixed human conditions". Humanity has always leaned to doing better, not letting shit fly where it at. Why should this be any different than say- coming out of hunting and gathering groups or living in small tribes?

HAY GUYS, ANYONE HERE HERD OF UTILITARIANISM? IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING!

>>46
NO DUDE WERE ALL TOO STOOPID!

wouldn't hating racists just be discrimnatory as oppossed to racist? Racists' are a group not a 'race'. :P
Sorry if it was addressed before or if it's not the point of the thread, I just read the title.

Don't take things too seriously, >>48.

Blah blah blah more of this shit.

I was using nigger as a general term for po' folks

>>50

You shouldn't even be using it as a general term for "po' folks". This is at the very heart of my point. You assume that nothing will change if we give "poor folks" the same equal chances as everyone who isn't "a nigger".

You're wrong.

Not only has there never been a unipolar effort to achieve this, but I think it's safe to say that your opinion is shared by those of a certian status. You were born into the life of privilage you have and it is re-enforced by the perception of your racial identity.

You can bitch all you want about people bringing other western socialist government into the argument- but it's very apparent by the statistics that they have their shit together. Numbers don't lie.

Your argument that we shouldn't at least try for equality is just morally dispicable. And if I wanted, I could resort to extreme examples as well. (We can't save all the kids being raped- so why try?) - The point I'm making here is that mankind as a whole has never sat back and said: "Well, it's just fucked anyway so why bother?"

Quite the opposite.

>>1
You have a great point. Its not racistm but dissrimination!

>>1

Bullshit, genes have nothing to do with racism. You become racist due to your environment, primarily based on your own firsthand experiences and (largely) how you viewed other races being treated as a child.

If you dad made nigger jokes, chances are you make them too. If some flip fucker robbed you twice, chances are you don't trust Filipinos. That's not genetic, that's just how people learn and take in life experiences.

Keep your kids away from rap videos and music on tv.Its the stupidest things they say in them.I kill this guy and fuck this bitch up the ass.God.I fear that the new white generation (20 and under) are startung to like and look up to nigras.If we dont save them we will soon seem uncool and undesirable even to our own women.

>>54
Something I've thougth of lately:
Whiggers aren't really white niggers, the real white niggers and the original boys in the hood are the skinheads. They have their hair cut short like niggers, they have lots of tattoes like niggers, They work out and pump iron like niggers and they hate all other races except the hot wommen. Skinnheads are the whites answer to nigger gangsters. The whiggers who immitaters the gangsters are just weak wannabe niggers. 

>>55

THANK YOU

Now that you've figured that out, why don't you go the rest of the way?

How many RICH Skinnheads do you know compared to say: POOR ONES?

Don't Skinheads also live in a paranoid, reactionary cultural structure where their entire race is being persecuted?

What do you think the average IQ of a skinhead is? If "niggers = white skinheads" - that includes intelligence, correct? Because there seems to be no difference in intelligence between the two.

Are you seeing a pattern of behavior here?

>>55
that's the realests shit eva! word up negro~ and indeed it is hard for a pimp. fo shizzy ma white nizzy?

>>56
True, But they are still white and rigth. Where I live there are two types off people in the prissons. Its the skinnheads and the niggers. The black guys who commit crimes and the whites who figth them back. Do you get my point? Mostly all of the whites in prisson are there for beeing pissed at the blacks.

Mostly all of the whites in prisson are there for beeing pissed at the blacks.

I find that really hard to believe.

>>58

..... of course white criminals in it for rape and murders are provoked by black people; simply being pissed @ the blacks. great generalisation mate.

people r in prisons cos they committed a crime or at least a court has deemed them so. NOT because they r "fighting" back the blacks. wtf r they fighting back really? oh lets beat on the blacks until they can save up enough money to fly back to africa???

do you think deporting black people to where ever they came from will solve the issue? it's the white americans that broght them into the country in the first place! if some1 brought your whiteass into japan and sold into slavery, and then deny you of any civil rights, wouldn't you be pissed off and wanna at least be treated equal?

>>1
agree

>Maybe it isn't racism that is the problem, maybe it is discrimination itself, or crime.

You want to get rid of discrimination?

There is a thread on this here http://dis.4chan.org/read/newpol/1207841526/1-

Good luck trying to combat intelligence and human discernment.

racists are a race now?

>>63
Anything can be a race since it's a social construct according to liberals.

>>62
The lengths you butthurt retards go on to justify your delusions to make yourselves feel better... It's pathetic.

>>51
>Your argument that we shouldn't at least try for equality is just morally dispicable. And if I wanted, I could resort to extreme examples as well. (We can't save all the kids being raped- so why try?)

And why do you think we don't try to stop every child being raped?
Equality is a stupid idea and nobody who lives with thier eyes opens gives it a shread of legitimacy, the manifest inequalities are too great for a government to repair. The only way it can be achieved is by crippling the strongest and the smartest, which is the obvious reason people who aren't living in la-la libfag land wouldn't support it.

>This person wishes to swear and shout at the same person or the same group of people over and over for the rest of their lives, this is not liberty, but the crime of harrasment.

It is liberty when the man being insulted can stop the other man from doing so.

>Maybe it isn't racism that is the problem, maybe it is discrimination itself, or crime.

So which one is the problem? That people discriminate or have any sort of discernment? You're mad my friend.

>Numbers don't lie.

You mean statistics don't lie? lol nice.

>You lose your version of this argument by resorting to using "nigger", in the first place. Someone like you, who's ideals seemed to be steeped in bigotry cannot be trusted to decide what or who is equal. You lack objectivity. Or rather, your version of it flaws the concept with a number of predispositions that you hold.

I'm not the poster you were replying to but. Do you know how stupid this ad hominem BS makes you sound? You must be a nigger is you can't see that.


I think >>1 makes a very good point. It is natural to discriminate racially therefore it isn't wrong. To say it is wrong, that somthing which is natural and predisposition of  human nature is wrong, is a hideious statement and completely opposed to what is fundementally right.

>>63
Claims that obvious biological facts are "a social construction" are themselves a social construction.

BAWWW DEY ARE DISKRIMINATING AGAINST MEE, THOSE EEEVIL PEOPLE ARE PUTTIN MEH DOWN FOR HATING NIGGERS, DATS THE SAME AS WAT I'M DOING BECAUSE CLEARLY MY PATHETICALLY TINY BRAIN CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE HURRR DURRRR

>>68
>>67
Double sage

>>68

Proof that every "black man" on the internet is a libfag troll.

>>70
What are you talking about, that's a genuine neocon kid

>> Equality is a stupid idea and nobody who lives with thier eyes opens gives it a shread of legitimacy, the manifest inequalities are too great for a government to repair. The only way it can be achieved is by crippling the strongest and the smartest, which is the obvious reason people who aren't living in la-la libfag land wouldn't support it.

You are very confused and very wrong. Equality as about as much of an "idea" as inequality is. You confuse equality, empathy and benevolence with totalitarianism and the mindfuck that is modern liberalism. Hide behind your equally dogmatic collectivist political rhetoric all you want, but they're just strawmen.

>> I'm not the poster you were replying to but. Do you know how stupid this ad hominem BS makes you sound? You must be a nigger is you can't see that.

"Nigger" is ad hominem BS, too. Nevertheless, my rejoinders don't sound half as stupid as someone who doesn't know the difference between "is" and "if".

>> It is natural to discriminate racially therefore it isn't wrong. To say it is wrong, that somthing which is natural and predisposition of  human nature is wrong, is a hideious statement and completely opposed to what is fundementally right.

Again, it's not upon the shoulders of someone as dumb as you to decide what's natural. Especially since you don't seem to understand that the opposite of your statement applies to human nature as well. Modern humans were born of savagery and stupidity and we have, somewhat, grown into more refined beings. This is something we've always strived for. I find it ironic that people who are so quick to equate others to cavemen, find themselves acting worse than actual cavemen. At least a neanderthals excuse is ignorance.

>>72 "Nigger" is ad hominem BS, too.
That would only be true if niggers were human.

>>71
Neo-cons ARE liberals.

>>72
>You confuse equality, empathy and benevolence with totalitarianism and the mindfuck that is modern liberalism. Hide behind your equally dogmatic collectivist political rhetoric all you want, but they're just strawmen.

You confuse "empathy" with "being a faggot", and "benevolence" with "giving extra special privilages".
Equality isn't just an idea when it is written into law and into government policy. We aren't discussing dictionaries here.

>"Nigger" is ad hominem BS, too.

No shit captin obvious.

>Again, it's not upon the shoulders of someone as dumb as you to decide what's natural. Especially since you don't seem to understand that the opposite of your statement applies to human nature as well.

But it doesn't apply anyway nearly as equally now does it?

>Modern humans were born of savagery and stupidity and we have, somewhat, grown into more refined beings. This is something we've always strived for.

Ha ha ha. "refined beings" hahaha. Where do you live man? Some leafy fucking liberal suburb ey? Whatever you do don't go outside.
People haven't changed in a thousand years. Society has changed, technology has changed. People, humans don't change.
If you equate; enforcing uniform public opinon with propaganda and law with "refinement" you're sorley mistaken.

>I find it ironic that people who are so quick to equate others to cavemen, find themselves acting worse than actual cavemen. At least a neanderthals excuse is ignorance.

Lawdy muh nigga. What was wrong with cavemen? I'm sure they wouldn't be so bad, why do you feel the need to discriminate against people so much?

>>You confuse "empathy" with "being a faggot", and "benevolence" with "giving extra special privilages". Equality isn't just an idea when it is written into law and into government policy. We aren't discussing dictionaries here.

Inequality based upon anything other than pure a priori objective evidence is "giving extra special privilages". Inequality isn't a naturally occuring idea when it's placed in law, either. But somehow I don't think you understand that we're not just discussing law here.

>>But it doesn't apply anyway nearly as equally now does it?

That's just your opinion. An opinion based on certain indefensible assumptions and obnoxious ingnorance mired in myopic thought.

>>Ha ha ha. "refined beings" hahaha. Where do you live man? Some leafy fucking liberal suburb ey? Whatever you do don't go outside. People haven't changed in a thousand years. Society has changed, technology has changed. People, humans don't change. If you equate; enforcing uniform public opinon with propaganda and law with "refinement" you're sorley mistaken.

I live, work and study in Downtown LA. The fact that I'm a black man living in a heavily urbanized area surrounded by a variety of ethics and classes probaby goes into my own thoughts on the subject. But again, this only matters if you lack the faculties of critical thought.

Listen, if you think that clear social and technological change isn't an indictator of a fundamental change in humanity then that's your retarded prerogative. Such as is my (non-retarded) belief of the opposite.

However, I am speaking to is the deterministic nature of mankind. I'm as pessemistic and cycinal as you about this world, but if you percieve and act on the perception that some human beings are just "inferior" than you are doing nothing more than expressing determination towards irrational fear, xenophobia and socioculturally enforced inequality which makes you just as fucking guilty as the people you're railing against like gay zealot.

I'm done with you, now.

>>75
Stay in LA, nigger. Don't come round hear. Naw mean?

>>76
O.k., I won't come around here no more (cuz I'm black).

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>>75
>Inequality based upon anything other than pure a priori objective evidence is "giving extra special privilages". Inequality isn't a naturally occuring idea when it's placed in law, either. But somehow I don't think you understand that we're not just discussing law here.

Well I was talking about racial equality, races just aren't equal.

>That's just your opinion. An opinion based on certain indefensible assumptions and obnoxious ingnorance mired in myopic thought.

I'm sure that the vast majourity of behavioural scientists and science research would agree with me. Therfore it's not just my "opinion" I believe.

>I live, work and study in Downtown LA. The fact that I'm a black man living in a heavily urbanized area surrounded by a variety of ethics and classes probaby goes into my own thoughts on the subject. But again, this only matters if you lack the faculties of critical thought.

I dunno what you're on about man. I'm from a large countryside village, as can be expected.

>Listen, if you think that clear social and technological change isn't an indictator of a fundamental change in humanity then that's your retarded prerogative. Such as is my (non-retarded) belief of the opposite.

Where is the change? Humans as a specices haven't changed one iota.

And anyway, imagine you're in a large crowd for a second. Let's say after a large football game or music concert how many people do you think - if the lights went out and the police disapeared, would be pulling the gold teeth from your dead body?
Just look at riots and even such "civilsed" things as music concerts and sports games, how quickly we decend into lunacy. This is especially true for the black race.
The rodney king riots where sheer savagery lol.

>However, I am speaking to is the deterministic nature of mankind. I'm as pessemistic and cycinal as you about this world,

I'm not pessemistic at all. I may be proto-fascist racist but I'm a ball of fucking laughs almost all the time, honest to blog.

>but if you percieve and act on the perception that some human beings are just "inferior" than you are doing nothing more than expressing determination towards irrational fear, xenophobia and socioculturally enforced inequality which makes you just as fucking guilty as the people you're railing against like gay zealot.

Well I don't like to say "inferior - superior" beacuse it sounds like a science judgement. Just different.
And I don't think it should be written into law that white people are better than black people. But I think people should be free to discuss it and have thier own views on it.

>I'm done with you, now.

Just one thing. Why do blacks like to race mix so much? Almost every other human society has been violenty opposed to it, as it is a death knell for thier society and race. Black people just seem to want to do it, they get off on fucking what is different.

You're both morons.
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>>Just one thing. Why do blacks like to race mix so much? Almost every other human society has been violenty opposed to it, as it is a death knell for thier society and race. Black people just seem to want to do it, they get off on fucking what is different.

You really are from a countryside village, aren't you?

Well, aside from the undeniable fact that humans have been "race mixing" since recorded history...

...all I have to say is this: Perception is a motherfucker. To white segregationist men it looks like "blacks like to race mix" because they are opposed to it in the first place. I know several black segregationist women that would like to know the same thing about white females. Same applies for any "race".

All it takes is one person (white or black) to fuck someone who isn't of their own race and suddenly the other race is claiming that "so-and-so loves to fuck our people". All of this stupidity just further feeds into the toxic irrationality of the collectivist ego.    

Anyway, it takes two to tango, doesn't it? I gather you could ask the same question and get the same basic answer from anyone (of any race) who doesn't share your views on race and "race mixing". 

>>80
Why would anyone do all that to quote something? What with "this"?

I LIKE BIG BLACK PEENS

>>81
...all I have to say is this: Perception is a motherfucker. To white segregationist men it looks like "blacks like to race mix" because they are opposed to it in the first place. I know several black segregationist women that would like to know the same thing about white females. Same applies for any "race".

Well females are stupid, thier behaviour is defined alot more by society around them, women will do what they're told is ok to do. They don't have the intellect to percieve that they're race mixing or consequences there of, they just do what thier insincts tell them. I'd put it down to thier lack of thought, not saying that race mixing is automatically an idiotic thing. A poor white girl would advantage herself by having a richer black partner then a poor as fuck white one, even though I'd still oppose it.
Men have higher intellects, we can discern things with greater objectivity and purer reason. Although this is becomming less and less the norm in western countries as men are becomming feminised.
The black male doesn't see himself as mixing, I think it is beacuse in the white majourity countries he sees it as normal for people to date white people.

Of all the mass imbecilities which have demoralised mankind, this of racial equality between all peoples, White, Black, Red and Yellow, is the most inane. Politically, it has already stirred up all the minor races into a state of belligerence and discontent which will impose minor wars on the dominant nations for years to come. But when it comes to racial integration between the White and Black races, sanity has descended to the looney bin of the impossible, because the intermixture of blood between those races must degrade the White race to the level of the Negro and cannot raise the Negro to the level of the White. Where today we see some evidence of the effect of education on the Negro it is the White blood in him that stirs some animation in his sluggish mental faculties, but the Negro pure, as he exists in Africa, cannot be educated even up to the standard of the lowest content of the White race. He may learn to parrot all the political and sociological clichés of today, but unless he is buttressed by the White race, and policed by it, he must relapse back to the jungle, which is his predestined habitat.

There appears to be an illusion today that this age is the first one in which the Negro has come into contact with a White civilisation, and so had a chance to benefit by its cultural and sociological ordinances. This is not the case. Since the genesis of this present civilisation some six or seven thousand years ago, the Negro has had contact with many past episodes of civilisation, but always, as each subsided, he has relapsed back to the jungle. The other three races, White, Yellow and Red, have devised their own civilisations, and have maintained them through the ages, but it is only in quite recent years that the Negro has come into relations with them. As in the past, his status has been one of slavery, because he has never been able to compete culturally with their achievements in the arts and crafts and intellectual standards. Nor can he compete today with those same achievements, because he utterly lacks the creative faculty: he has no thumbs. The only thing he ever learned to do was to smelt iron ore and hammer out his spear heads. That weapon was essential to the preservation of his existence in his tribal wars, and his food derived from wild animals able to defend themselves with teeth and claws.

Save for the Chinese, and other Asiatic peoples, all other civilisations were generated on the shores of the Mediterranean and the Negro penetration of them was very slight, except, perhaps, with the Egyptians, who were themselves a dark coloured race, but with no relation to the Negroid peoples. Only the Moors and Arabs, because of their geographical contiguity with Africa, have kept up the slave trade with Negroes, but sexual union with them was strictly prohibited. Or impossible for that matter. By a very simple clinical ritual, the Negro became a harmless guard and menial to the Harem. It is only since the colonisation of Africa by the British, Dutch, French and Belgian peoples that the Negro has become a momentous world problem within the last two decades. The British, French and Belgian peoples solved it for themselves by handing their colonies over to the Negroes. The Dutch could not do that. They had been so long in South Africa that they had built up another white race there—the Boers. And there, the world may be assured, they will remain, and the Negro will not be permitted racial equality with them. What must happen shortly between those peoples is already predestined. The only other country on which the full weight of the Negro falls is America.

And the Politician’s solution to it of race integration is a desperation measure which never can succeed, as the politicians themselves know, but at present, they dare not do anything about it, for President Johnson won the presidential campaign by handing himself over to the largest section of the community to command the vote, just as Roosevelt did to capture the presidential chair. We know that section, which is the pestilential problem of all peoples who seek to keep a sane balance of rationality in the conduct of their political and sociological affairs. In Australia, we call them Wowsers—a stigma word which Mencken incorporated in his American Language, but as yet Americans have not adopted it. A stigma word has great power.

In America the Wowser is the self-elected Dogooder—the temperance crank, the Purity Leaguer, the anti-saloon leaguer, the Comstock bookshop smasher and picture slasher; in short, that chapel product of the cheap suburbs and the rural back blocks which seeks to impose its own horrible codes and doctrines on all that makes life tolerable for well constituted humanity. They are the people who imposed Prohibition on America and very nearly wrecked the country. In Russia, they were largely responsible for the Revolution by cutting off the people’s need for liquor during the 194 war. They are the Pacifists—the peace at any pricers, the appeasers at any threat of war which thereby makes it inevitable by inviting aggression from piratically inclined nations. They are today trying to cripple Johnson’s handling of the Viet Nam war: the finest piece of statecraft since the great days of England as a world power, when half a dozen words from Lord Salisbury was enough to send Russia scuttling back from the Oxus. It is a great pleasure to know that our men are fighting with the Yanks, and that more are being trained to follow, if needed.

It is the Wowser, then, to use one stigma term for a generic type common to America, England, and Australia, who is doing all the mischief today by inflating the Negro with a state of megalomania which convinces him that he is the victim of monstrous injustice by the white peoples, and all revenges on them are his by right of martyrdom. And that revenge he will take whenever he has power to do so.

We must concede him injustice so far in that the Whites have invaded his country and taken possession of large sections of it. In the past, they made a commodity of him in the slave market. Those same Whites have now handed back to him the sections of country they had occupied and have freed him from slavery. Justice can go no further than that.

But America, swung off a sane balance of rationality by the maudlin sentimentality of the Wowsers for the assumed sad lot of the Negroes, has allowed its politicians to establish them in equal civil and social rights with the Whites. They have ordained that the white children must consort intimately with the black offspring from infancy to adolescence, and that alone insures sexual intimacy between the two races. That American mothers—always so passionately possessive over their young—should have allowed them to do such a noxious thing is evidence that they are too dazed by the bulldozing tactics of the politicians to realise its inevitable consequences. It is assumed that education will dispose of the physiological compulsions inherent in all such propinquity of the human species.

Education! This age has become besotted over its assumed potentialities to perform a universal miracle, which is that text books alone can create a civilisation. It ignores the irrefutable evidence that only a civilised mind can be educated. Education is nothing more than a procedure for exercising intellectual faculties which are a content of the mind at birth. It has taken the white race six thousand years to develop those special faculties on which all civilisations have been built. The craftsman’s fingers, the musician’s ear, the artist’s hand and eye, the scientist’s investigation of all natural phenomena are inherited from progenitors who have left behind them the brain cells, and the muscular reflexes essential to all creative effort. And it is now assumed that education, in a generation or two, will allow the wretched Negro to develop those special faculties and so allow him to compete on equal terms with the White race as a civilised being. Imbecility can go no further than such a preposterous assumption.

Already the Negro mass is in a vicious state of resentment because it has not straightway been vested in all the rights and privileges of the Whites. The Los Angeles episode is a sufficient evidence of a universal state of mind among the Negroes. And that is only the beginning of the trouble. When he finds that the higher-class whites will not consort with him on equal terms, and that there is no place for him among the trained working class, no police force in the world will be adequate to control him.

Americans are not a docile people when politicians impose arbitrary interdictions on the free conduct of their civic rights and their private lives. The politicians’ failure to inflict Prohibition on the American people is evidence of what they must expect by this proposal to impose racial integration with the Negroes on them. It only required an adjustment of the legal code to dispose of Prohibition, but no such adjustment can solve the Negro problem for them. There is only one possible solution to that, but I am not going to take it on myself to suggest it. It must be already pregnant in the minds of all higher class American thinkers today.

>>84

Again, it takes two. Second, the dogged and nuerotic sexual selectivity is a token behavior of the feminised male. Or...did you not know that? Typically, men aren't supposed to think doggedly about these things. While I don't agree with your premise that women are so lacking in intellect that they can't make a decision, one of the differences in males & females is the female's natural ability to discern suitors. 

Anyway, race mixing has been around for ages and that can no more be wished out existence than the human drive for sex can be. An objective look at history tells whites and blacks and whoever have been fucking around with each sexually for a quite awhile now and quite natural as it works to benefit of all mankind through genetic diversity.


Well females are stupid, thier behaviour is defined alot more by society around them, women will do what they're told is ok to do. They don't have the intellect to percieve that they're race mixing or consequences there of, they just do what thier insincts tell them. I'd put it down to thier lack of thought, not saying that race mixing is automatically an idiotic thing. A poor white girl would advantage herself by having a richer black partner then a poor as fuck white one, even though I'd still oppose it.
Men have higher intellects, we can discern things with greater objectivity and purer reason. Although this is becomming less and less the norm in western countries as men are becomming feminised.
The black male doesn't see himself as mixing, I think it is beacuse in the white majourity countries he sees it as normal for people to date white people.

>>86
Second, the dogged and nuerotic sexual selectivity is a token behavior of the feminised male. Or...did you not know that?

I thought that was beacuse I browsed 4chan.
And you suppose random and indiscriminate sexual sselection is what a man does? Maybe I am old fashioned in thinking "a man" is more then an animal. Masculinity isn't really in decline people just have the wrong ideas about it. According to the media I'm ethier busting caps or doing calculus.

one of the differences in males & females is the female's natural ability to discern suitors. 

I don't think there is much difference personnaly, women think they can make good choices but for the most part they just follow thier vagina, just like men do.
Real long term mating success, and unless I'm mistaken mating is a long term process as both parents would be required to raise children in a "natural" habitat. Real long term success comes from social compatability, which I personnally also think white people do better with one annother and we all know about dem black dads.

An objective look at history tells whites and blacks and whoever have been fucking around with each sexually for a quite awhile now and quite natural as it works to benefit of all mankind through genetic diversity.

This whole argument about "genetic diversity" or "hybrid vigor" is rubbish, it's all rubbish. Any ammount of hybrid vigour that occurs in humans (which some does occur, over one or two generations) is absolutly negligable, and then far out weighed by social factors. And it doesn't asist in creating extra genetic diversity, for that purpose it'd be better to keep people apart.
There really is no genetic reason people should be race mixing.

I'm no really intensly racist. I don't think we should have a cultural policy of indiscriminate mate selection which does lead to retrogradation of "fitness". And I think it waekens a nations culture and solidarity to be mixed.
Fuck, I can't imagine sitting next to a paki reading his koran aloud on some battlefield somewhere. I'd never get conscripted.

I have still never met a black man who was against race mixing, although I'm pretty sure alot of black women wouldn't. I've met men and women of all races who wouldn't race mix, black men I have met none. Although I've only know some 20 or so in my life.

>>87

There's really not much more for you to say. Nor is there much more for us to argue about, I think. You've not only exposed to me your inexperience and ignorance, but you've said many things that only someone insular and resistant to reason would say. All your beliefs are limited to your few experiences.

However, this isn't your fault. I've been in a hundred threads like these it never seems to come down to a hierarchical and logical discussion with each side civilly citing empirical evidence. These arguments typically never leave their emotional base and I chalk this up to the collectivism and the irrationality associated with modern liberalism.

I'm just going to say this. I know that in comparison to you and I there is a vast intellectual chasm which you have yet to or will fail to bridge. I know you to be inferior to me, yet I refuse to debase myself by treating you *like* you are inferior. My time, unlike yours, isn't spent on message boards calling for segregation or whining that there are laws that require me to treat you like an equal.

There is a reason for this, but since you don't believe that humans are incapable of gleaning enlightenment and change through determinism...I'll leave it unstated.

>>88
>I know you to be inferior to me, yet I refuse to debase myself by treating you *like* you are inferior. My time, unlike yours, isn't spent on message boards calling for segregation or whining that there are laws that require me to treat you like an equal.

Ha ha ha ok mr important time. lol why don't you go and spend your [I}precious time[/I] galabanting with your firends instead of conversing with the loosers on 4chan.

I've been in a hundred threads like these it never seems to come down to a hierarchical and logical discussion with each side civilly citing empirical evidence.

Welcome to the internet. If you really want me to cite where I got the science from then I can.

I'm just going to say this. I know that in comparison to you and I there is a vast intellectual chasm which you have yet to or will fail to bridge. I know you to be inferior to me, yet I refuse to debase myself by treating you *like* you are inferior.

You've not only exposed to me your inexperience and ignorance, but you've said many things that only someone insular and resistant to reason would say. All your beliefs are limited to your few experiences.

Wtf do you know about me? You self rightous prick, just annother nigger male with unwarrented arrogance complex. Typical.

Your a real funny man. intellectual chasm lol I'm one of the top 150 students in my country, when I apply for uni later this year I'll be going to oxbridge or lse or ucl or imperial, anywhere I fucking want to go to. What have you been doing this past year? Apart from wallowing in your self-righteousness and "gleaning enlightenment".

There is a reason for this, but since you don't believe that humans are incapable of gleaning enlightenment and change through determinism...I'll leave it unstated.

I'll leave you to your delusions of a "refined" human race.

I've noticed whenever arguing with a black man he will inevitably accuse you of being "ignorant" at some point. When you ask "ignorant about what?", he will give you a blank look and ramble on about something else. I'm convinced most blacks use the word without knowing its meaning.

>>90
It's funny how you managed to notice the trend in the accusations you face, yet get the most retarded conclusion possible from it.

>>91
You just ign'ant.

Race is equivalent to a social construct. Racists are a social construct. Therefore racists are a race.

>>90

funny! same shit seemed to happen in >>89, >>1, >>25->>38, and several other posts in these thread. so are us lurkers supposed to believe you're all black? this thread is fuckn stoooopppppid. if you got your shit to together race or whatever people think about you don't amount to shit. you think oprah or obama or bill gates or clinton or mccain is spending their time doing this shit fuck no

>>94
Please learn English and then resume your crying.

>>95

by the looks of things you're the only one crying. WAAAAHHHH I WANT SPECIAL TREATMENT, I'M AN AMERIFAG. BLACKS ARE DOING THIS AND THAT BAWWWWWWWWWWWW. stfu already.

This thread is 2 years old, if you guys didn't notice.

>>96
Again, first learn English to understand what you read, so you can maybe formulate an appropriate thought on the subject (though I highly doubt your capabilities on the issue), and then respond in a coherent manner that actually includes some thought rather than your perpetual whining. So, please, try again.

Niggers have so much hate for racists.

Where's the love, BRO?

Where's the love?

It's true.

I mean, look at the fucking Jews - they HATE nazis! That's a HAET KRIME DURRRR HURRRRR

>>98

fuck you, americunt. this is internets and my point is pretty bloody clear without dressing it up. it's cute how you americans feel every ideal presented to you has to be on your terms. your own intellectual communities write entire books predicated upon this fact.

the only reason you're replying to me bawwwwwwing about grammar and such is because you have nothing to say. you keep replying to a two year old thread, mate. WHY, I ask? why do issues of race concern you if you're one of top 150 or whatever. the blackie had it right. if you didn't feel threatened or afraid on some emotional level, you'd stay out of this shit altogether. get a life fagette

>>101
Again, as I said, all your whining stems from your inability to read, you wouldn't have humiliated yourself with this grotesque exposure of ignorance. The fact that you think I'm American etc. makes this whole issue even more pathetic, and your posts about a "two year old thread" are hilariously ironic.

So, keep crying if you like it.

>>102
 i read the thread perfectly well, cunt. we've already established i can't read and i'm humilating myself with this grotesque exposure of ignorance, and yet you can continue to babysit this thread. why? i seriously want to know, americunt. why do you keep replying with pathetic attempts at shouting me down you crybaby fagette? people are laughing at your obsessive devotion to this thread.

and the obvious fact that you're being trolled.

LOSER cunt, tell yer mum i said OI

>>103
Au contraire, YHBT HAND

>>100
wins the thread.

being racist is racist u guys

Yo! 106! Ever heard of Non-Sequitor? Basically what you just said is the sky is blue because it's blue. btw, hating in any fashion is racism at its finest, but unseen to the hater is the division of self that comes with the territory. Deeply seeded in the recesses of their mind lies dorment a self-destructive compulsion aching to prove itself. So, when your done self-immolating, keep that flame going a little longer, I'll bring my marshmallows, chocolate, and gram crackers; we'll all roast smore's over your super hot body.

I love to hate.
My hatred burns with the intensity of a thousand suns.
It keeps me warm at night.

>>108
No, your countless layers of fat spanning your body keep you warm.

>>109
6'2" 195 lbs. Tanned and toned. 1 girlfriend, 1 on the side.

How do you rate compared to me?

>>110

I'm straight.

>>111
MOAR like straight into dozens of male anuses, AMIRITE?

>>110
I drive a Porsche

>>113
Good for you! I mean if that's all you can afford and all..lol

lol

>>113
I drive a penis

much better

Cry less, retards.

Less retardation, cryers.

Retards cry, less.

>>110
is gay

>>110 here.
I'm not gay.
I do enjoy sodomy, but only with my women friends.

>>121
So, your gaping asshole is so big not even niggercock could fill it, so that you resorted to exclusive use of strap-ons for "women" to fuck you in the ass. I see...

>>122
Umm, no.
I have sex with women exclusively, where I do all the pitching and they do all the catching.
Someday, if you ever do get laid, you'll understand what I'm talking about.

>>123
Oh, SNAP! You just handed >>122's ass on a skillet! NICE ONE!

clearly >>124 is >>123's gay partner

>>125
*Receiving ammunition from >>125, loading AK-47, taking aim and...* Hmm, seems I heard somewhere those that spout deragatory claims about sexuality actually are insecure about their own...who are you really saying is gay, >>125? Possibly...yourself? Have you really investigated and experimented to find out if you are homosexual? If it angers you so much, purhaps its because you've repressed your true nature so much that you get angry about it. But more often than not this is only the cover for your repressed nature, you may not be secure about discussing topics without getting upset and then deny, then get defensive and ten just hide yourself (repress) some more until everything that you repress comes out when you get upset. It's text book psychology, you're trapped in your own neurosis, but don't worry; you're not the only human here.

"Anonymous" = "O, on my anus"

That explains EVERYTHING.

>>126
Why write an entire paragraph over a troll so typical on the internets you could ignore it without consequence?

>>128
That's an easy question to answer for myself. It has to do with self-respect translating to respect. When I am faced with disrespect the natural reaction from me is to confront the disrectful comments or actions of the transmitter. To ignore is no different than disrespecting yourself, running away, hiding in a cave and remaining ashamed of your inability to respond. Most arguments are actually based upon this tactic alone, that's why I am able to easily defend against such infantile gestures. Of course, I had to live 30 years of my life doing this to myself in order to see why I was so depressed. It's because by ignoring troll'ish attacks you ignore yourself, ignore yourself and you ignore others. It's not an easy concept to grasp possibly because it's the most simplist concept that exists, but to overcomplicate matters seems to be the nature of all humans; no wonder we look at other people in disgust, we see in them what we trully are and then become disgusted with ourselves.

>>129
*yawn*
tl;dr

>>129
tl;dr

>>131
tl;dr

>>133
tl;dr

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