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Hating Racists is Racist

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 23:58

All around me I see an incredible injustice being committed every day.  Thousands of racists are being discriminated against, being derided in the media, being shunned from social groups, and being avoided by the population at large.

Their genes are inferior, primative, dating back to prehistoric times, when tribes fought against each other, and had to have an easy way to convince themselves that they should irrationally hate their enemy nations.  Back then it was an advantage to believe that humans should be separated from each other, and that certain ones should be made into slaves or killed.

Racists aren't at fault for the way they are; it's their genes that determine that they will be racist.  Therefore, it's immoral to discriminate against them, they just can't help it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 0:32

niggers are shat out like turds. I have proof.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 13:00

>>1
Racists need to be culled.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 13:25

>>3
Racist

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 16:03

>>1

Was your brain replaced with a giant pile of shit or what? Racism has nothing to do with genes. Racism is an attitude, which is detemined by the way you were brought up (and as a small factor by intelligence, cause really smart people tend to be not racist at all)

So shut the fuck up, idiot. Also, the period of actual nations built by humans is too short to have affected the genepool in such a big way.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 17:43 (sage)

>>5 was the emo loser at school who always laughed several seconds too late.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 18:06

By racists you mean whites, so doesn't that make you racist?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 19:13 (sage)

Everyone is racist. News at 11.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 3:06

Racism is a predisposition of the white race.

Name: You knew it was coming. 2006-02-14 4:49

Princeton: You're both Monsters.
Kate Monster: Yeah.
Princeton: Are you two related?
Kate Monster: What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!
Princeton: Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!
Kate Monster: Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you? Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton: No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the sensitive subject of race.

Princeton: Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster: What do you mean?
Princeton: What about that special Monster School you told me about?
Kate Monster: What about it?
Princeton: Could someone like me go there?
Kate Monster: No, we don't want people like you-
Princeton: You see?! You're a little bit racist.
Kate Monster: Well, you're a little bit too.
Princeton: I guess we're both a little bit racist.
Kate Monster: Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...
Princeton: But I guess it's true.
Kate Monster:Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 5:07

Everyone thought the world was flat at one time, as well.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 7:23

>>11
no just whites

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 9:20

>>12
Right, because niggers don't think!

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 12:12

LOL

but is all this whole ignoring of cultural boundaries really even wise?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 13:19

>>9
Anti-chan, is that you? You great sociopathic hypocrite with a superiority complex the size of the Mexican gulf!

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 15:40 (sage)

Racism is a predisposition of everyone.

fixed

It's true too. Read up on ingroup bias, group attribution error,  and the seminal Robber's Cave experiment. People form groups over the stupidest shit (even a coin toss), not just skin colour and culture.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 23:12

>>15

I wouldn't have said something like that.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 23:17

>>16
Actually it can be quite beneficial to those who have outsmarted the dumb.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 5:19

Whereas the practice of slavery before Europeans came along had no racial bias (it was a natural consequence of warfare with neighbours), European slavery had a distict racist character. It labelled a certain race of people as inferior, attributed these inferior characteristics to them and used this as justification to seek them out as targets for exploitation. Before European slavery, the concept of racial inferiority as justification did not exist. It is in this sense that I state that racism is the predisposition of the white race.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 7:32 (sage)

the concept of racial inferiority as justification did not exist

hahaha get out

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 9:18

>>19
look up the origins of the word "slave," dumbass.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 17:01

The concept of class superiority and inferiority has existed in all societies even before civilisation began as many hunter gatherer societies needed some organised menial labour and the men made the women fill this void, even communist societies where everyone is supposed to be equal, the party members live like aristocrats and are free to execute anyone who points this out. In our enlightenned democracies of course this sense is regimented so that we all have the same basic rights which prevent tyranny, but that people must have some of these rights taken away for a period of time if they abuse someone else's rights. This is a form of justified superiority and inferiority and it's extent depends on the utilitarian properties of it's usage. However there are still those who choose to treat others as superior and inferior as a personal choice within the constraints of liberty. For instance many people who use 4chan enjoy running around going "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER LOL!!", which I find offensive as I am black.

Every time a nation conquerred or subjugated another these ideas were implemented on the subjugated and every so often it is applied in a racial manner. It happenned with the Mongol steppe-mongoloids against the Rus white-caucasians and it happenned with the Almuhad arab-caucasians against the Songhai west african negroes (the incident which began the subjugation of sub-saharran Africa by various powers leading up to the triangular slave trade).

Maybe it isn't racism that is the problem, maybe it is discrimination itself, or crime. Crime is the problem. We need to stop people from being bad. That's the heart of it. If you narrow it down. I believe hate is wrong, there is no point in wallowing at how bad things in our world are, of course they are horrible and terrible, but to mourn it is equivalent to mourning the fact that you have itches occasionally or that you have to wear a coat because it is too cold outside occasionally. The essence of combatting evil is not to mourn and hate it's existence, not even if you try to eradicate it with the same vigour as an unemotional automaton with the same objective, because it is unavoidable and there is nothing terrible about something which happens that you should have come to expect.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 19:08

So...  What you're trying to say is... 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 22:01

For instance many people who use 4chan enjoy running around going "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER LOL!!", which I find offensive as I am black.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I enjoy reading things like that! You are a nigger in need of a coffee emema.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 22:07 (sage)

This thread needs more >>22, less >>24.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-18 20:35

>We need to stop people from being bad. That's the heart of it.
Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual. Do you want us to be more hiveminded and completely throw away our personality? I for one welcome our new borg overlords.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 1:01

"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual."

Translation..

"So what if rape ruins a child's life and is tantamount to torture which is bad for the community as a whole, communities are evil so they don't matter, what matters is I enjoy it!"

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 1:37

>>27
translation: harbl

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 4:29

>>26
Fuck the borg, their queen isn't hot like the zerg's!

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 5:46

>>27

These huge leaps of logic are getting fucking annoying. It's like arguing with a three year old. You keep putting words in people's mouths so that you don't have to deal with the fact that you might be completely wrong.

Frankly, I don't see how we jumped from one issue to your apparent rape fetish.

Then again, what do I expect from someone like you? You don't want to appeal to people individually under ANY circumstances. Even in hypotheticals you show an inability to attack ideals based on their individual circumstances.

No one with any degree of sense is just going to fall in line with your way of thinking. Even when, through a great amount of illogical rationalizations, you equate their opinion with being OK with child rape.

If you're going to continue this form of debate, can you at least keep it on Fox News and CNN where all the unreasonable fucktards live? We're trying to have a *real* debate here.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 6:24

>>30
"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual."

Translation..

"The only crime is crime against the community which is a collectivist concept, which is mildly related to totalitarianism, so if I commit a crime it isn't wrong, so I should be able to."

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 7:55

>>31

Was with you up until "totalitarianism", then you veered right off into what I call the "fuck and lose zone".

Will you guys stop arguing like a bunch of freshman college kids who just learned what wit and satire is and start making logical statements? "So if" doesn't qualify jack-fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 8:08

jack-fuck

mother-shit?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 13:00

>>32
You are too stupid to understand my argument. Admit this later if you are too vain to admit this when you next reply, however if you don't reply I will assume you have accepted defeat.

I will redefine my argument as clearly as is grammatically possible, if you still do not understand it I ask that you commit suicide as quickly as possible.

Crimes is very bad for the victim and good for the perpetrator.
If you make a law which prevents crime it is good for a society as everyone in the society will not commit the crime as much and not as much bad will happen.
Sometimes when making laws people make unecessary laws, so we should not assume all laws are good for society.
There is a distinction between laws and what is good for society.
What is good for society is good for individuals and this involves preventing crime, even though crime may benefit the perpetrators.
If someone believes that what is good fo society is wrong, it is because they are criminals and wish to commit crimes that benefit them.
A person who is unwilling to admit this for fear of people knowing what he is may attempt to remove the distinction between laws and what is good for society and claim that ideas which are legitimately good for socciety are unecessary.

An extreme example would be child rape, but there are lesser examples, such as harrasment.

"Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual. Do you want us to be more hiveminded and completely throw away our personality? I for one welcome our new borg overlords."

This person wishes to swear and shout at the same person or the same group of people over and over for the rest of their lives, this is not liberty, but the crime of harrasment. He is claiming that harrasment laws are unecessary as they do not permit him to commit the crime of harrasment.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 15:05

I'm not the anonymous you've been arguing with up until now.

What if say, speeding tickets are good for society, they give it money to build roads and schools and stuff, only they cost everyone who gets one a whole year's salary.  (this is an extreme example).  However, everyone is much better off, only this one person's life is ruined.

Did society commit a crime?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 15:07

>>35
ALSO:

Lets say that one person has the earning capacity of (average) ten of his fellow citizens.  Is it "bad" for him to have all that money?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 18:49

>>34

See how rational >>35/>>36 sounds? The bigger question that you dodge is who decides what is good for society? Ha ha: You? You're so fucking illogical, I wouldn't have you decide where to have lunch.

I think the problem is that I understand your arguement too well, in that it's extremist nature immediately strikes some old chords in me.
 
I'm still wondering how in your faggotry riddled mind you got from: "Sometimes what's good for the community is bad for the individual" to "YOU HEAR THAT GUYS? CHILD RAPE IS OK BY THIS DUDE!!!

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 21:23

Racism isn't a race. Learn your words.

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 21:34

AS OPPOSED TO NORMAL RAPE. NORMAL RAPE IS VERY VERY BAD!

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 23:38

>>37
Well, you assume that morality doesn't factor into the equation; we don't rape kids because we have compassion for the kid.  We don't do things because, ignoring compassion here for a second, we don't want that stuff done to us.   So we all agree that certain things just won't happen in our society.  That's what laws are.

But then again, where does it end?  Should be be able to decide that nobody should have more than say, 500,000 dollars worth of wealth? Even then you couldn't stop all the poverty, and you might actually cause a mess... when you take too much, you might destroy industriousness that would otherwise be harnessed for the good of everyone. 

Maybe it's be unwise to mess too much in personal rights.

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