male circumcision encouraged. they both do the same thing, they remove a part of our pleasure. Why are they viewed so differently. Women still can have orgasms without their clit.
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Anonymous2005-12-26 12:41
What? The clit is an integral part of female orgasm, it denies them the ability to have a clitoral orgasm when removed. Males can orgasm just fine with no foreskin, and may even enhance it by making it more sensitive.
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Anonymous2005-12-26 13:05
>>2
If the head is normally covered by the foreskin, it will be more sensitive when bared during sexual excitement. I guarantee it.
>>2
just hand over your gold and gtfo jew, hannukah's over
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Anonymous2005-12-26 17:50
>>1 male circumcision encouraged
Any kind of circumcision is only encouraged in retarded countries, in mine both are despised.
they both do the same thing
The one niggers do to girls is terribly painful and traumatizing, and may even kill them.
Women still can have orgasms without their clit.
No. Their sexuality is ruined for life, and it hurts and bleeds terribly on first sex, which further hurts them physically and psychologically. I would take the niggers who do that and burn them alive, the faggots. And as they are screaming while getting burnt, I would tell them, Anonymous owned you sucker!
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Anonymous2005-12-26 23:45
>>6
Yes I once read about this and viewed pictures of the result of female circumcision. I wept for 2 reasons:
(1) because of how such a beautiful thing was mutilated
(2) because I was looking at nigger vaginas
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Anonymous2005-12-27 2:47
female circumcision turns me on. nothing better than fucking a girl who cant enjoy it.
As anthropologist Fuambai Ahmadu (2000) pointed out, her experience with ritual excision, though painful, empowered her as a woman in the Kono culture of Sierra Leone, increased her sexual sensitivity, and (due to its partial medicalization) led to no health problems beyond the initial heavy bleeding. She claims it did not interfere with her transnational life at all (305), thus was not “anti-progress”, and argues for its complete medicalization, not elimination (304).
GUESS THAT MEAN YOU FUCKING DITCH-PIG, PUSSY-CHEESE COLOR HATE-HONKIES DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT----PER USUAL
GTFO and stop hating on shit you don't understand
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Anonymous2005-12-30 1:06 (sage)
Anti-chan, my good man, are you implying that you wouldn't mind my beating you up, because there are some people that enjoy getting beaten?
You practice an interesting form of logic.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 1:55
"though painful, empowered her as a woman in the Kono culture of Sierra Leone, increased her sexual sensitivity, and (due to its partial medicalization) led to no health problems beyond the initial heavy bleeding."
No. Because that's not even close to the issue here. These are children following a cultural tradition. They aren't being "BEATEN UP" or "MUTILATED". That's just your perception of what's happening.
What I find rediculous here is that the west only seems to care about what's going on in non-capitalist countries, esscentially non-white countries when some practice is going on that they don't understand and therefore fear.
What you simply fail to understand is that the only real issue we can have against them is the non-medicalization of the act. THAT would be inhumane- just as cutting off foreskin with a shard of glass would be inhumane. Who cares if *you* don't understand their tradition or their culture? *You* don't have a right to judge them or outlaw the practice if there's no harm in it.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 6:32 (sage)
Last I checked, the word "tradition" didn't justify anything. Tradition on the Pitcairn Islands was old men raping little girls. They were still put on trial and convicted.
And to claim there is 'no harm in it' is nonsense, and you know it. Pain isn't harm? Substantial loss of blood isn't harm? The removal of an organ with thousands of nerve endings isn't harm?
You seriously need to work on your trolling skills, I hardly even feel angered.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 10:19
what does this have to do with science or maths?
why do people use "cultural relativism" to justify such barbaric and debilitating practices?
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Anonymous2005-12-30 16:36
>>16 These are children following a cultural tradition. They aren't being "BEATEN UP" or "MUTILATED". That's just your perception of what's happening.
Die, please.
Like I said: Why is it alright to mutilate a little boys foreskin in America but wrong in other cultures? You're all be hypocrites and you know it. If you can get beyond your own narrow (but not as narrow as your little sister's ass crack, WHICH I PROFOUNDLY JIZZED IN) view of the world...you'd see that.
Studies have been done that rebuke the idea that this is some torturous practice. Clearly there's no harm in the operation if it's done medically. RAPING little girls isn't fucking CLOSE to the same fucking level, dumbdick. That's like comparing Bush to Hitler. And you know what they say about Hitlar comparisons.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 18:24 (sage)
Why is it alright to mutilate a little boys foreskin in America but wrong in other cultures? You're all be hypocrites and you know it.
So far only >>2 has argued this. But somehow all of us are hypocrites? Please explain!
Clearly there's no harm in the operation if it's done medically.
Clearly? Beyond the mental problems it will cause for many victims, physical issues have been listed above. Please explain your position further! And if you're going to mention 'studies', give us a reference.
RAPING little girls isn't fucking CLOSE to the same fucking level
Who decides this? The Great Anti-Chan, Lord of the Interweb?
And you know what they say about Hitlar comparisons.
Yes, they do say that sometimes. But why? What is the reasoning? Do you even know what you're talking about in half of the sentences you write?
(but not as narrow as your little sister's ass crack, WHICH I PROFOUNDLY JIZZED IN) dumbdick
Constructive criticism: This is not really helping any point you're trying to make.
If you can run around DECIDING that rape = medical clit removal, then I can go around deciding the exact opposite. Don't get all haughty with me because you are wrong (totally WRONG, like your SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUNG CHILLENS)
The Study that was in wikipedia link is, in fact, GAAAAAAAASP, DRUM ROLL W/ TITTES.....AN ACTUAL STUDY! WHOMPS THERE IS IT, THAT PENIS, IN YOUR ASS, IT'S MINE, I'M PULLING IT OUT
POP
YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND YOU BEING MADE MY BITCH
CAPLOCKS MOTHERFUCKER.
Where's the proof of "mental problems"? Does it exist in your bootyhole AKA your warehouse of knowledge!? Hey and... cumbait? If you don't want to get lumped in with the rest of the faggot clan you should clearly express your opinion. Stop living the vague-ville like some lame fuckhead.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 20:07 (sage)
Instead of trying to puzzle out what you just said, I think I'll just declare myself the WINRAR.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 21:17
>>20 Why is it alright to mutilate a little boys foreskin in America but wrong in other cultures?
It's not right stupid, male circ it's stupid and wrong too. Yet female circumcision is even worse, and has much, much worse consequences.
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Anonymous2005-12-30 22:23
Anti-chan more like Frustrated Virgin-Chan, am i right? Go out and get fucked already. It'll change your whole mindset.
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RAPE-CHAN2005-12-31 2:08
Yet female circumcision is even worse, and has much, much worse consequences.|||
According to what fucking scientific study, cockbreath?
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Anonymous2005-12-31 2:58
Anti-chan more like Frustrated Virgin-Chan, am i right? Go out and get fucked already. It'll change your whole mindset.
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Anonymous2005-12-31 8:16
female circumcision is so barbaric only a troll would claim it isn't
I didn't say it wasn't barbaric. Male circumcision is barbaric as well, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have a right to practice it.
What the fuck do you care what some people thousands miles away and completely unrelated to you are doing? By what right do you tell them what to fucking do?
This is the like the abortion issue- stuff like this is going to happen NO MATTER WHAT. It's not rape or sexual abuse, just like male circumcision isn't rape or sexual abuse.
The only flaw, immense blood loss or pain comes from...DRUM ROLL WITH TITTIES.....................NON-MEDICALIZATION
Gee, now I wonder why these people can't afford medicalization...or why medicalization isn't available.....HMMMMMMMMMM
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Anonymous2005-12-31 11:11
but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have a right to practice it
yes it does
this is going to happen NO MATTER WHAT
so is rape and murder
It's not [...] sexual abuse
yes it is
troll better, lol
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RAPE-CHAN2005-12-31 12:41
What the fuck do you care what some people thousands miles away and completely unrelated to you are doing? By what right do you tell them what to fucking do?
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Anonymous2005-12-31 13:16
What the fuck do you care what some people thousands miles away and completely unrelated to you are doing?
It's called being human(e). Try it sometime.
By what right do you tell them what to fucking do?
By the right to protect others from harm.
logic lol
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Anonymous2005-12-31 13:50
anti-chan is a pretty bad troll. He usually writes longer posts than the trollee. A good troll is not too obvious, sharp, half/completely true, and _short_, as you don't want to waste your time, you want to waste others'.
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Anonymous2005-12-31 13:57
A good troll is not obvious at all, and gets people angry. This is just pathetic.
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Anonymous2005-12-31 14:59
Rape-Chan isn't a troll, it expends way too much effort. Just a typica libber all methinks.
You don't give a fuck about being humane, you lying sack. There's millions of atrocities, with far more serious implications and those're ignored by your liberal westernism idea of "protecting" the weak. It's arrogant.
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Anonymous2005-12-31 22:51 (sage)
>>37
When did 'protecting people' become an all-or-nothing thing?
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Anonymous2006-01-01 7:10
"You don't give a fuck about being humane"
Well that's called evil and it seems illogical to not to evil if it suits you, but that's what people have been fighting against all these centuries to create the democratic nations we live in today and everything we hold dear, regardless of the troubles that still exist, because it could have very easily been a lot worse. So I'm sorry if you don't see any reason for justice, but this isn't going to stop us from doing justice apon you.
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NOT RAPE-CHAN2006-01-01 7:37
Oh noes now rape-chan's insult threshhold has been exceeded and he's going to post anonymously. what have we done!!!
What I mean is: If it's not "all or nothing", then why is it important for you to address this so-called atrocity and ignore others? I mean- where are those morals and ethics when it comes to eastern european ethnic cleansing, poverty and hunger? What is it about female circumcision that is so pressing?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 14:30 (sage)
Who said this issue is any more important to me (or any of us here) than any of those other issues?
Someone simply brought it up by creating a thread, then you were the one to blurt out "GTFO and stop hating on shit you don't understand", and I explained why I was 'hating'.
I don't really see what exactly the point is you're trying to make right now (if any). Exactly because this is not all or nothing, people can focus on this one specific issue. Obviously solving problems becomes much easier when you take them on one at a time.
Did you perhaps run out of arguments?
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anti-chan2006-01-02 15:34
No.
I'm stating that this an issue which you simply don't understand. It's culture, tradition, something that you don't have a right to "stop". Just like you don't have a right to stop medicalized male circumcision.
Now on the other hand, there are other issues which are actually quite simple- that you kind don't seem to be too occupied with. Why don't you form an opinion on those issues, because exposing your ignorance with female circumcision?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:15
you don't have a right to "stop".
Assumed false until backed up with some kind of reasoning.
Second paragraph is based on false premises (how would you know whether or not I have an opinion on anything else; this thread just isn't about other issues), and actually doesn't really make much sense.
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anti-chan2006-01-02 16:27
The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture. This isn't very hard to grasp. We do things that foreign cultures consider "wrong", by what reasoning to they judge us?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:27
Lol virgin-chan fails at trolling. Go cry yourself to sleep loser
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anti-chan2006-01-02 16:28
Well, actually...nevermind. You're western and white- you can't possibly understand, don't know what I'm doing trying to explain ethics to a group of people who have reduced their culture to a liberal/conservative meme.
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:30
We have every right to judge other peoples culture's. Where do you get the idea that we don't? Causing unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong by any reasonable standards, and we have a right, nay, a duty, to stop it. I hope you're trolling btw.
Are you some sort of nigger or something virgin-chan? Because that could explain your irrational barbarism and psychopathy.
Come back when you adopt secular humanist ethics. Until then we have nothing to discuss you little deluded monster.
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anti-chan2006-01-02 17:45
"Causing unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong by any reasonable standards, and we have a right, nay, a duty, to stop it."
LOL. Is this your "white man's burden"? In the same countries that practice female circumcision, there is unnecessary pain and suffering caused- in some part- by actions of the west. Why aren't you concerned with those? Why don't you search those out? Or do you just not care?
In your very own country there is unnecessary pain and suffering that you casually allow to happen. Do you think you have a right to judge the actions of other cultures?
Anytime you use "nigger", you void yourself the intellectualism you like to pretend you weild. What is barbaric or psychopathic about helping *all* of humanity the best we can? Look outside lately? Have you given any thought to the actions of your own governments? Their ethics are far from secular and very, very far from anything termed as "humanist".
By hey, whatever, right? Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a "nigger" (LOLZ!!!) anyway, so whooooo cares?
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dv2006-01-03 3:38
ANTI-CHAN FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT FEMALE CIRCUMCISION (MORE LIKE MUTILATION REALLY). YOU HAVE _NOT_ ALLOWED TO ARGUE THAT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER BAD THINGS AROUND. THIS IS A FALLACY ANTI-CHAN.
LET ME REITERATE. JUST BECAUSE OTHER BAD THINGS HAPPEN DOES NOT MEAN FEMALE MUTILATION IS OKAY.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
"NIGGER" WAS USED SATIRICALLY TO VOICE MY FRUSTRATION AND ANGER AT YOUR LUNACY (OR TROLLING, AS IT MIGHT BE). OBVIOUSLY THESE THINGS JUST KIND OF WOOSH BY YOU DON'T THEY. I BET IT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES.
I DO LOOK OUTSIDE NIGGER-CHAN. IF SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENING, I INTERVENE. BUT WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FEMALE MUTILATION YOU FUCKING KIKE.
IT'S HARD TO ASCRIBE ETHICS TO A GOVERNMENT YOU FUCKING LUNATIC. THERE ARE HUMANISTS AND SOCIOPATHS IN ANY LARGE ORGANISATION. IN PRINCIPLE THOUGH, ALL WESTERN GOVERNMENTS HAVE SECULAR HUMANIST ETHICS.
CULTURES ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE DIFFERENT IN THINGS LIKE THE WAY THEY BAKE THEIR BREAD FOR INSTANCE. AS SOON AS THEY START MAIMING THEIR OWN PEOPLE YOU FUCKING BET THE WEST WILL FIND IT _INEXCUSABLE_ AND _BARBARIC_. THIS IS BECAUSE EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE OF WESTERN ORIGIN WE STILL WANT THE BEST FOR THEM. WE HAVE LARGE HEARTS LIKE THAT YOU STUPID CUNT. OBVIOUSLY THE CONCEPT OF EMPATHY COMPLETELY IS FOREIGN TO YOU.
NOW BACK TO YOUR CAVE OR TENT OR WHATEVER. HOLY SHIT I POPPED A VEIN
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anti-chan2006-01-03 4:37
And fuck, I win.
This troll is my crowning achievement. I mean: I've been pretty much trolling in every topic outside of the race one (that's just based on principal, don't be trying to slide no unfounded theories in the mix, BITCH)
But this?
It's rare, very rare that someone ever responds with all caps...and...man...I think I just came.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 4:53
LOL. if this is the best you can do then it's pretty pathetic.
Criticism accepted, however, I thought I'd try something new...you know...really try to grow as a troll and.....I stand by my work. I think the unrelenting caps speak for themselves.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 6:12
Keep trying grasshopper. One day you can join the real trolls.
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anti-chan2006-01-03 7:05
Thanks but no thanks, I've decided to stay far away from your mother, your sisters, or any other female members of your family. The last encounter...
...well let's just say I left feeling a little "AIDSish"
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Anonymous2006-01-03 8:07
Oooh burn. Wait, no.
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anti-chan2006-01-03 8:09
I'm so ghey.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 11:40 (sage)
Not only is this shitty trolling, but if this is your 'crowning achievement' then you must lead one sad life. Go do something productive, you bring shame to the human race. :(
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anti-chan2006-01-03 15:56
my life is fucking awesome, bitch
gtfo
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anti-chan2006-01-06 17:47
i get a lot of luvvin, though I always seem to be the receiver and not the pitcher... I still havea good time! I always come first!
>>49
>The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture. This isn't very hard to grasp. We do things that foreign cultures consider "wrong", by what reasoning to they judge us?
We have the better weapons, we have the cooler gadgets, we have the money - that's why we judge and whether or not you appreciate that in your stuck-up worldview doesn't matter at all, because it won't get you any power.
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Anonymous2006-01-18 19:46
>>72
If they think mutilating a child against their will for arbitrary reasons is good, then our morals are superior.
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Anonymous2006-01-18 19:52
>>72
>The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture.
I don't judge someone else's culture, I judge severe mutilation, and severe mutilation is severe mutilation regardless of culture.
Relativist nihilists like you need to go back to where you came from: nothing.
>>74
I am not nihilist, moron. I'm saying precisely what I think gives moral authority.
>>73
Argues like his point of view has descended freely from heaven. Of course if you judge your own culture by the stanards of your own culture, it will look superior.
Why do you think these people circumsize? Because they're naturally evil? No. Simply because they listened to other people, to other stories, to other truths than you have.
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d2006-01-23 11:34
They circumsize because: THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID UNENLIGHTENED SAVAGES THAT NEED TO TAKE UP SECULAR HUMANISM OF BE BOMBED INTO THEIR FUCKING STUPID FAIRY-TALE HEAVEN.
End of discussion.
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Anonymous2006-01-23 14:42
>>82
Sounds like you have a lot in common with them.
Us truly enlightenned people simply wish to teach them the error of their ways. Because we are all capable of such depths of mass psychosis and anyone who is incapable of acknowledging this is extremely likely to also be psychotic.
Genital mutilation is no more justified in baby boys than it is in baby girls. America is a barbaric country for removing pieces of penis from their babies.
You aren't enlightened. You're just a PUSSY LIBERAL.
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Anonymous2006-01-24 23:34
Female circumcision is purely for controlling purposes.
I belevive male circumcision is done for religious reasons, but i don't know much about it.
Where i'm from the men have all their penis
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Anonymous2006-01-25 8:40
Countries who practice circumcision, especially those who are dangerous, harmful, hurt lots even years after it, and/or ruin sex, should be attacked and administered by the civilized world.
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Anonymous2006-01-25 13:31
People usually want to make themselves look like each other, to be part of the group and know their station so they know how to react to a situation and if anyone acts different they bully them into acting like them. Cutting their hair the same way and things and some cultures take this to the extreme, as they are inferior and stupid.
Then the same people who speak out against forming groups and bullying everyone else try to help these same people because they are biased in some way. These people are intelligent, but made the conscious decision to be evil and so should be punished.
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Anonymous2006-01-26 17:53
As a subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, I bring this thread a message: Most in our realm do not practice circumcision - either male or female - and find the practice disgusting. In short, we are civilised and the rest of you are not. Thank you.
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Anonymous2006-01-26 19:32
>>90
Signed. Other European countries are civilised too. The rest of the world can suck it.
Foreskin got nothing to do with pleasure; Clit has everything to do with it. Women can't have the best orgasm possible without it. Foreskin is no different from the skin on your balls or on your ass or your face, it's just skin like the rest.
And the overarching reason for it is control. The vulva is usually stitched shut in such practices and reopened for the woman's husband to fuck her, before it's restiched shut. This results in only excessive pain for the woman, no pleasure.
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Anonymous2006-02-14 18:00
Foreskin = Pleasure
Your statement means you don't have one
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Anonymous2006-02-15 3:25
>>90
Excellent, one of the few who knows that he's a subject of the Crown. I hate it when people talk about being a "citizen" of the UK. This is a monarchy people; Parliament doesn't count as government, that's just a bunch of childish men squabbling. Her Majesty owns this country and everyone in it.
Oh please, the old bitch could drop dead and the only thing England would loose is a source of tourist income. The Crown has NO power anymore. Wait, let me say this again, NO power.
Anyways, I've still my foreskin and it rocks. Unless you don't shower like a normal healthy human being, there shouldn't be any hygenic problems.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 3:25
>>98
True. We need to disband parliament, those treasonous usurping bastards.
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I'll create a culture where your first-born is set on fire, loaded into a catpult and fired at a rival tribe's village at his/her5th birthday. I'll do this in secret for a few generations, then let the outside world find out. When people call it barabric, I'll say, "No itz tadishun, lol, we're practising our cultshure", and have some of my top lackey do a study finding that being set on fire and launched from a catapult is, though painful, NOT HARMFUL IF DONE PROPERLY.
Yes, and have them endure a searing pain that they will actually remember. When it's done on newborns, it does *not* have the same effect on their psyche. They have just barely been able to survive out of the womb, so their brain is not exactly occupied with "ZOMG YOU HORRIBLY MUTILATED ME MOM AND DAD".
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Anonymous2006-06-29 3:49
>>121
sear1 P Pronunciation Key (sîr)
v. seared, sear·ing, sears
v. tr.
To char, scorch, or burn the surface of with or as if with a hot instrument. See Synonyms at burn1.
To cause to dry up and wither.
>>119
"Dudes" that are circumsized get far less stimulation out of sex than guys that aren't. You're a fucking idiot. If you want to trade away the feeling in your cock to have it "look nice", then be my fucking guest.
On a sidenote, people who randomly say "end of discussion" irritate me almost as much as people who randomly use the wrong words, like "searing". Why the fuck is the discussion over after you speak? Fucking prick.
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Anonymous2006-06-30 9:39
>>120
Fair enough, but it's one of those things you don't want to do, even if it's good for you. Snip off part of my wang? It'll look bigger and badder? Okay, but still, that could hurt... get my drift?
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Anonymous2006-06-30 9:48
>>121
That's a good point. Newborns do not precieve pain the way a baby does.
>>122
And you know this how? Have you gone from one to the other? I'm sure there's a study on it, but it would be good if you pointed us in that direction. Otherwise, it sounds like an old-wife's tale.
And you know what, if that IS true, I'm glad I'm cut. I don't NEED any more stimulation down there; I pop boners at inappropriate times enough as it is. I can make girls squeal and moan, so there's no problem there. I bang the right girl and the sex is amazing for both of us. Maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but I have no complaints right now.
All things told, I'm glad it is how it is. (Hey, to each his own.) I don't want some flabby schmuck in the way of my ding-a-ling. Now, I can't back this up, but I'm guessing that when circumcision is done immediately following birth, the brain wires appropriately to the new "form." And finally, if your sexual pleasure relies on how sensitive part of your body is, you're probably doing it wrong.
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Anonymous2006-06-30 9:50 (sage)
>>125
No, I don't. It's a completely unnecessary procedure, so it doesn't make sense to say "let's do it when they're little, because when they're older they'll be afraid to do it even though they reallllly really want it (honest)".
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Anonymous2006-06-30 10:03
And you know this how? Have you gone from one to the other?
When I pull back my foreskin, the head of my penis is sensitive enough that it can sometimes be painful to the touch.
I don't NEED any more stimulation down there
Maybe when you get older?
I pop boners at inappropriate times enough as it is.
I think there's no (or very little) extra sensitivity when flaccid, because the foreskin is covering everything.
Also, there's no flabby schmuck 'in the way' or anything. It sound like you're just deluding yourself into thinking you're better off somehow. Anyway, I have my foreskin, so I don't care too much about all this. I just can't stand the silly justifications.
Granted, it's circular, but there's probably a shitton of guys out there that are glad it was done. Logical? Maybe not. But true.
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Anonymous2006-07-01 13:40
The only way someone would be glad they're circumsized is if they're deluded into thinking it's somehow "good," as if being uncut means you automatically have 2 pounds of cheese stuck to your cock at all times, or whatever the other retarded myths are.
People have gotten cut at ages such as 18, and they all regret it. The foreskin has thousands of nerves in it, so losing it reduces pleasure. And without the foreskin to constantly cover the head of the penis when it's not fully erect, the head dries out, and even more sensation is lost.
>>131
That's what Amerikkkans think, lol puritans.
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Anonymous2006-07-03 20:56
They're not the same thing. In men it's done for health reasons and cleanliness. A girls clit doesnt get in the way of her peeing and wont cause her vagina to become infected. And a lot of women get a bigger/better orgasm from clitoral stimulation rather than vaginal, so if you chop it off you've just killed her happy place.
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Anonymous2006-07-03 23:34
all you guys unhappy with your circumcision can restore the foreskin you know. See Penn and tellers: Bullshit
episode:??? (forget which)
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Anonymous2006-07-04 6:25
>>137
Doesn't matter, the head is already desensitized through years of open air and rubbing against your undershorts.
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Anonymous2006-07-05 20:21
No. Because that's not even close to the issue here. These are children following a cultural tradition. They aren't being "BEATEN UP" or "MUTILATED". That's just your perception of what's happening.
ok...is there any girl you know who WANTS to get her clit mutilated??!?!? You obviously don't kow what happens during this cultural tradition! Most of the time the girl is being held down while the elderly woman takes something sharp ( a knife, sea shell, glass...etc.) and starts scraping off of the clit. Intense bleeding and infection follows. The girl may even die. It is a horrible event and sometimes not even the parents want their dauhters to live through that. Sometimes the lips are even sewn together. so stfu with that "That's just your perception of what's happening"
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Anonymous2006-07-07 19:50
>>136
>In men it's done for health reasons and cleanliness. A girls clit doesnt get in the way of her peeing and wont cause her vagina to become infected.
LERN2SHOWER, you fucking sick hobo. This was true a few hundred years ago, when there was no such thing as running water and people only bathed once a week. Nowadays we have the benefit of showers to clean ourselves.
STOP saying there are sanitary issues with having foreskin. You people disgust me.
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Anonymous2006-07-07 21:15
Circumcision started in America during the masturbation hysteria of the Victorian Era, when a few American doctors circumcised boys to punish them for masturbating. Victorian doctors knew very well that circumcision denudes, desensitizes, and disables the penis. Nevertheless, they were soon claiming that circumcision cured epilepsy, convulsions, paralysis, elephantiasis, tuberculosis, eczema, bed-wetting, hip-joint disease, fecal incontinence, rectal prolapse, wet dreams, hernia, headaches, nervousness, hysteria, poor eyesight, idiocy, mental retardation, and insanity.4
In fact, no procedure in the history of medicine has been claimed to cure and prevent more diseases than circumcision. As late as the 1970s, leading American medical textbooks still advocated routine circumcision as a way to prevent masturbation.5 The antisexual motivations behind an operation that entails cutting off part of the penis are obvious.
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Anonymous2006-07-07 23:04
Circumcised men who do not wash their penis are less likely to suffer from penile infections than uncircumcised men who do not wash their penis.
However uncircumcised men who wash their penis are less likely to suffer from penile infections than circumcised men who wash their penis.
The best option is not to circumcise and to wash your penis.
whats the name of that one organ that's completely useless and blows up sometimes
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Anonymous2006-07-08 18:48
>>147
'Completely useless'?!? You should publish those findings, they sound revolutionary!
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Anonymous2006-07-08 19:15
>>147
Everything on the human body is completely useless, the brain is enough. I can't wait until there are some quality replacements available for my worthless human body.
>>150
You have proof that the appendix is useless?
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Anonymous2006-07-10 21:21
I've heard that some scientists found that the appendix was used for digesting things such as hair and bone (because cavemen and the like would just be like BLARGRAGHGRAGH on their food, I'd assume), but because we don't relaly eat those things anymore, it's lost it's use.
But you can't compare a vestigle organ like the appendix to foreskin. Foreskin is there for a reason. It protects the head of your penis and prevents it from drying out, and becoming calloused. With the foreskin cut off, the head will dry out, losing sensitivity, combined with even more sensitivity loss from the nerves that the foreskin had.
It's like wearing socks compared to going barefoot everywhere, sorta. The barefoot person will have rough, calloused feet and won't feel the ground too much. The one with socks, if he took the socks off, would feel every little thing.
There really is no reason to continue male circumcision. Showering daily reduces any risk of smegma to zero, and anyone who says "lol uncut penises are icky" is just a fucking moron, because they both look almost exactly the same when erect except for a small bit of rolled up skin under the head. And that's really the only time when it matters.
wait can you compare an uncircumcised penis with the foreskin pulled back to a penis without foreskin to show the so-called callusing
or are you just making shit up
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Anonymous2006-07-10 22:36
>>154
I would imagine scientific evidence and testimonies of men who've been circumcised as adults would be enough proof.
It's also quite obvious that less nerve endings = less feeling, so why is it so hard to believe that cutting off foreskin, which contains thousands of nerves, means there will be less sensation during sex and masturbation?
There's also people who have tried reverse curccumcision. Exercizes to pull and stretch the foreskin back over the head of the penis, to restore the foreskin. Men who've done this have said that it allows the head of the penis to "soften up", sort of reversing the effect caused by being constantly explosed to air and rubbing up against underware.