male circumcision encouraged. they both do the same thing, they remove a part of our pleasure. Why are they viewed so differently. Women still can have orgasms without their clit.
What I mean is: If it's not "all or nothing", then why is it important for you to address this so-called atrocity and ignore others? I mean- where are those morals and ethics when it comes to eastern european ethnic cleansing, poverty and hunger? What is it about female circumcision that is so pressing?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 14:30 (sage)
Who said this issue is any more important to me (or any of us here) than any of those other issues?
Someone simply brought it up by creating a thread, then you were the one to blurt out "GTFO and stop hating on shit you don't understand", and I explained why I was 'hating'.
I don't really see what exactly the point is you're trying to make right now (if any). Exactly because this is not all or nothing, people can focus on this one specific issue. Obviously solving problems becomes much easier when you take them on one at a time.
Did you perhaps run out of arguments?
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anti-chan2006-01-02 15:34
No.
I'm stating that this an issue which you simply don't understand. It's culture, tradition, something that you don't have a right to "stop". Just like you don't have a right to stop medicalized male circumcision.
Now on the other hand, there are other issues which are actually quite simple- that you kind don't seem to be too occupied with. Why don't you form an opinion on those issues, because exposing your ignorance with female circumcision?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:15
you don't have a right to "stop".
Assumed false until backed up with some kind of reasoning.
Second paragraph is based on false premises (how would you know whether or not I have an opinion on anything else; this thread just isn't about other issues), and actually doesn't really make much sense.
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anti-chan2006-01-02 16:27
The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture. This isn't very hard to grasp. We do things that foreign cultures consider "wrong", by what reasoning to they judge us?
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:27
Lol virgin-chan fails at trolling. Go cry yourself to sleep loser
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anti-chan2006-01-02 16:28
Well, actually...nevermind. You're western and white- you can't possibly understand, don't know what I'm doing trying to explain ethics to a group of people who have reduced their culture to a liberal/conservative meme.
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Anonymous2006-01-02 16:30
We have every right to judge other peoples culture's. Where do you get the idea that we don't? Causing unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong by any reasonable standards, and we have a right, nay, a duty, to stop it. I hope you're trolling btw.
Are you some sort of nigger or something virgin-chan? Because that could explain your irrational barbarism and psychopathy.
Come back when you adopt secular humanist ethics. Until then we have nothing to discuss you little deluded monster.
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anti-chan2006-01-02 17:45
"Causing unnecessary pain and suffering is wrong by any reasonable standards, and we have a right, nay, a duty, to stop it."
LOL. Is this your "white man's burden"? In the same countries that practice female circumcision, there is unnecessary pain and suffering caused- in some part- by actions of the west. Why aren't you concerned with those? Why don't you search those out? Or do you just not care?
In your very own country there is unnecessary pain and suffering that you casually allow to happen. Do you think you have a right to judge the actions of other cultures?
Anytime you use "nigger", you void yourself the intellectualism you like to pretend you weild. What is barbaric or psychopathic about helping *all* of humanity the best we can? Look outside lately? Have you given any thought to the actions of your own governments? Their ethics are far from secular and very, very far from anything termed as "humanist".
By hey, whatever, right? Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a "nigger" (LOLZ!!!) anyway, so whooooo cares?
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dv2006-01-03 3:38
ANTI-CHAN FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT FEMALE CIRCUMCISION (MORE LIKE MUTILATION REALLY). YOU HAVE _NOT_ ALLOWED TO ARGUE THAT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER BAD THINGS AROUND. THIS IS A FALLACY ANTI-CHAN.
LET ME REITERATE. JUST BECAUSE OTHER BAD THINGS HAPPEN DOES NOT MEAN FEMALE MUTILATION IS OKAY.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
"NIGGER" WAS USED SATIRICALLY TO VOICE MY FRUSTRATION AND ANGER AT YOUR LUNACY (OR TROLLING, AS IT MIGHT BE). OBVIOUSLY THESE THINGS JUST KIND OF WOOSH BY YOU DON'T THEY. I BET IT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES.
I DO LOOK OUTSIDE NIGGER-CHAN. IF SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENING, I INTERVENE. BUT WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH FEMALE MUTILATION YOU FUCKING KIKE.
IT'S HARD TO ASCRIBE ETHICS TO A GOVERNMENT YOU FUCKING LUNATIC. THERE ARE HUMANISTS AND SOCIOPATHS IN ANY LARGE ORGANISATION. IN PRINCIPLE THOUGH, ALL WESTERN GOVERNMENTS HAVE SECULAR HUMANIST ETHICS.
CULTURES ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE DIFFERENT IN THINGS LIKE THE WAY THEY BAKE THEIR BREAD FOR INSTANCE. AS SOON AS THEY START MAIMING THEIR OWN PEOPLE YOU FUCKING BET THE WEST WILL FIND IT _INEXCUSABLE_ AND _BARBARIC_. THIS IS BECAUSE EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE OF WESTERN ORIGIN WE STILL WANT THE BEST FOR THEM. WE HAVE LARGE HEARTS LIKE THAT YOU STUPID CUNT. OBVIOUSLY THE CONCEPT OF EMPATHY COMPLETELY IS FOREIGN TO YOU.
NOW BACK TO YOUR CAVE OR TENT OR WHATEVER. HOLY SHIT I POPPED A VEIN
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anti-chan2006-01-03 4:37
And fuck, I win.
This troll is my crowning achievement. I mean: I've been pretty much trolling in every topic outside of the race one (that's just based on principal, don't be trying to slide no unfounded theories in the mix, BITCH)
But this?
It's rare, very rare that someone ever responds with all caps...and...man...I think I just came.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 4:53
LOL. if this is the best you can do then it's pretty pathetic.
Criticism accepted, however, I thought I'd try something new...you know...really try to grow as a troll and.....I stand by my work. I think the unrelenting caps speak for themselves.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 6:12
Keep trying grasshopper. One day you can join the real trolls.
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anti-chan2006-01-03 7:05
Thanks but no thanks, I've decided to stay far away from your mother, your sisters, or any other female members of your family. The last encounter...
...well let's just say I left feeling a little "AIDSish"
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Anonymous2006-01-03 8:07
Oooh burn. Wait, no.
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anti-chan2006-01-03 8:09
I'm so ghey.
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Anonymous2006-01-03 11:40 (sage)
Not only is this shitty trolling, but if this is your 'crowning achievement' then you must lead one sad life. Go do something productive, you bring shame to the human race. :(
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anti-chan2006-01-03 15:56
my life is fucking awesome, bitch
gtfo
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anti-chan2006-01-06 17:47
i get a lot of luvvin, though I always seem to be the receiver and not the pitcher... I still havea good time! I always come first!
>>49
>The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture. This isn't very hard to grasp. We do things that foreign cultures consider "wrong", by what reasoning to they judge us?
We have the better weapons, we have the cooler gadgets, we have the money - that's why we judge and whether or not you appreciate that in your stuck-up worldview doesn't matter at all, because it won't get you any power.
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Anonymous2006-01-18 19:46
>>72
If they think mutilating a child against their will for arbitrary reasons is good, then our morals are superior.
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Anonymous2006-01-18 19:52
>>72
>The reasoning is that you have no right to "judge" someone else's culture.
I don't judge someone else's culture, I judge severe mutilation, and severe mutilation is severe mutilation regardless of culture.
Relativist nihilists like you need to go back to where you came from: nothing.