Why is female circumcision abhorred but...

male circumcision encouraged. they both do the same thing, they remove a part of our pleasure. Why are they viewed so differently. Women still can have orgasms without their clit.

>>120

Yes, and have them endure a searing pain that they will actually remember. When it's done on newborns, it does *not* have the same effect on their psyche. They have just barely been able to survive out of the womb, so their brain is not exactly occupied with "ZOMG YOU HORRIBLY MUTILATED ME MOM AND DAD".

>>121
sear1     P   Pronunciation Key  (sîr)
v. seared, sear·ing, sears
v. tr.
To char, scorch, or burn the surface of with or as if with a hot instrument. See Synonyms at burn1.
To cause to dry up and wither.

>>119
"Dudes" that are circumsized get far less stimulation out of sex than guys that aren't. You're a fucking idiot. If you want to trade away the feeling in your cock to have it "look nice", then be my fucking guest.

On a sidenote, people who randomly say "end of discussion" irritate me almost as much as people who randomly use the wrong words, like "searing". Why the fuck is the discussion over after you speak? Fucking prick.

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>>120
Fair enough, but it's one of those things you don't want to do, even if it's good for you.  Snip off part of my wang?  It'll look bigger and badder?  Okay, but still, that could hurt... get my drift?

>>121
That's a good point.  Newborns do not precieve pain the way a baby does.

>>122
And you know this how?  Have you gone from one to the other?  I'm sure there's a study on it, but it would be good if you pointed us in that direction.  Otherwise, it sounds like an old-wife's tale.

And you know what, if that IS true, I'm glad I'm cut.  I don't NEED any more stimulation down there; I pop boners at inappropriate times enough as it is.  I can make girls squeal and moan, so there's no problem there.  I bang the right girl and the sex is amazing for both of us.  Maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but I have no complaints right now.

All things told, I'm glad it is how it is.  (Hey, to each his own.)  I don't want some flabby schmuck in the way of my ding-a-ling.  Now, I can't back this up, but I'm guessing that when circumcision is done immediately following birth, the brain wires appropriately to the new "form."  And finally, if your sexual pleasure relies on how sensitive part of your body is, you're probably doing it wrong.

>>125
No, I don't. It's a completely unnecessary procedure, so it doesn't make sense to say "let's do it when they're little, because when they're older they'll be afraid to do it even though they reallllly really want it (honest)".

And you know this how?  Have you gone from one to the other?
When I pull back my foreskin, the head of my penis is sensitive enough that it can sometimes be painful to the touch.

I don't NEED any more stimulation down there
Maybe when you get older?

I pop boners at inappropriate times enough as it is.
I think there's no (or very little) extra sensitivity when flaccid, because the foreskin is covering everything.

Also, there's no flabby schmuck 'in the way' or anything. It sound like you're just deluding yourself into thinking you're better off somehow. Anyway, I have my foreskin, so I don't care too much about all this. I just can't stand the silly justifications.

>>127

Granted, it's circular, but there's probably a shitton of guys out there that are glad it was done.  Logical?  Maybe not.  But true.

The only way someone would be glad they're circumsized is if they're deluded into thinking it's somehow "good," as if being uncut means you automatically have 2 pounds of cheese stuck to your cock at all times, or whatever the other retarded myths are.

People have gotten cut at ages such as 18, and they all regret it. The foreskin has thousands of nerves in it, so losing it reduces pleasure. And without the foreskin to constantly cover the head of the penis when it's not fully erect, the head dries out, and even more sensation is lost.

>>130
Pleasure = evil.

Sluts > Other Girls

They are teh best girlz ever cause they never use the words "no" , "stop" and "dont".. There's nothing you can do about it.

circumcision? fuck that. just get castrated

>>38
best point in the whole thread

>>131
That's what Amerikkkans think, lol puritans.

They're not the same thing. In men it's done for health reasons and cleanliness. A girls clit doesnt get in the way of her peeing and wont cause her vagina to become infected. And a lot of women get a bigger/better orgasm from clitoral stimulation rather than vaginal, so if you chop it off you've just killed her happy place.

all you guys unhappy with your circumcision can restore the foreskin you know. See Penn and tellers: Bullshit
episode:??? (forget which)

>>137
Doesn't matter, the head is already desensitized through years of open air and rubbing against your undershorts.

No. Because that's not even close to the issue here. These are children following a cultural tradition. They aren't being "BEATEN UP" or "MUTILATED". That's just your perception of what's happening.

ok...is there any girl you know who WANTS to get her clit mutilated??!?!? You obviously don't kow what happens during this cultural tradition! Most of the time the girl is being held down while the elderly woman takes something sharp ( a knife, sea shell, glass...etc.) and starts scraping off of the clit. Intense bleeding and infection follows. The girl may even die. It is a horrible event and sometimes not even the parents want their dauhters to live through that. Sometimes the lips are even sewn together.  so stfu with that "That's just your perception of what's happening"

>>136
>In men it's done for health reasons and cleanliness. A girls clit doesnt get in the way of her peeing and wont cause her vagina to become infected.

LERN2SHOWER, you fucking sick hobo. This was true a few hundred years ago, when there was no such thing as running water and people only bathed once a week. Nowadays we have the benefit of showers to clean ourselves.

STOP saying there are sanitary issues with having foreskin. You people disgust me.

Circumcision started in America during the masturbation hysteria of the Victorian Era, when a few American doctors circumcised boys to punish them for masturbating. Victorian doctors knew very well that circumcision denudes, desensitizes, and disables the penis. Nevertheless, they were soon claiming that circumcision cured epilepsy, convulsions, paralysis, elephantiasis, tuberculosis, eczema, bed-wetting, hip-joint disease, fecal incontinence, rectal prolapse, wet dreams, hernia, headaches, nervousness, hysteria, poor eyesight, idiocy, mental retardation, and insanity.4

       In fact, no procedure in the history of medicine has been claimed to cure and prevent more diseases than circumcision. As late as the 1970s, leading American medical textbooks still advocated routine circumcision as a way to prevent masturbation.5 The antisexual motivations behind an operation that entails cutting off part of the penis are obvious.

Circumcised men who do not wash their penis are less likely to suffer from penile infections than uncircumcised men who do not wash their penis.

However uncircumcised men who wash their penis are less likely to suffer from penile infections than circumcised men who wash their penis.

The best option is not to circumcise and to wash your penis.

>>29

lol stop crying faggot

>>122

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_effects_of_circumcision#Sexual_Effects

OH WOW WHATS THIS ABOUT

All bodyparts are there for a reeason. Don't play god. Leave the kids alone.

Yeah, leave the Godding up to entities like me.

>>145

whats the name of that one organ that's completely useless and blows up sometimes

>>147
'Completely useless'?!? You should publish those findings, they sound revolutionary!

>>147
Everything on the human body is completely useless, the brain is enough.  I can't wait until there are some quality replacements available for my worthless human body.

>>148
>>147
The appendix.

>>150
You have proof that the appendix is useless?

I've heard that some scientists found that the appendix was used for digesting things such as hair and bone (because cavemen and the like would just be like BLARGRAGHGRAGH on their food, I'd assume), but because we don't relaly eat those things anymore, it's lost it's use.

But you can't compare a vestigle organ like the appendix to foreskin. Foreskin is there for a reason. It protects the head of your penis and prevents it from drying out, and becoming calloused. With the foreskin cut off, the head will dry out, losing sensitivity, combined with even more sensitivity loss from the nerves that the foreskin had.

It's like wearing socks compared to going barefoot everywhere, sorta. The barefoot person will have rough, calloused feet and won't feel the ground too much. The one with socks, if he took the socks off, would feel every little thing.

There really is no reason to continue male circumcision. Showering daily reduces any risk of smegma to zero, and anyone who says "lol uncut penises are icky" is just a fucking moron, because they both look almost exactly the same when erect except for a small bit of rolled up skin under the head. And that's really the only time when it matters.

Vestigial.

vestiglglze.z

>>152

wait can you compare an uncircumcised penis with the foreskin pulled back to a penis without foreskin to show the so-called callusing

or are you just making shit up

>>154
I would imagine scientific evidence and testimonies of men who've been circumcised as adults would be enough proof.

It's also quite obvious that less nerve endings = less feeling, so why is it so hard to believe that cutting off foreskin, which contains thousands of nerves, means there will be less sensation during sex and masturbation?

There's also people who have tried reverse curccumcision. Exercizes to pull and stretch the foreskin back over the head of the penis, to restore the foreskin. Men who've done this have said that it allows the head of the penis to "soften up", sort of reversing the effect caused by being constantly explosed to air and rubbing up against underware.