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Project Ceylon

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 11:56

What do you think of Red Hats take on Java/C#?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceylon_Project

Looks to me like it's just a better Vala, since Vala is infested with the GTK+ GObject shit all over. Although Vala is compiled to C and Ceylon will run on the JVM (GC is shit guy need not apply).

Will this be the Java killer?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 11:59

>>1

The Java killer? You mean C#?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:05

>>2
Except C# is only usable on Windows and nobody actually uses it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:18

>>3
>windows
>not the defacto OS
>C#
>not the defacto language

0/10

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:31

>>4
I really hope that image boards will be back up soon. My I suggest you leave now and annoy people with your shitposting somewhere else? Like /r/programming, for example?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:33

>>4
>POSIX
>Not the defacto OS
>C++
>Not the defacto language
>OpenGL
>Not the defacto library
>QT 4
>Not the generic widget toolkit

-4 / 10

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:36

>>5
nobody actually uses it.

No wonder >>4 didn't take your post seriously.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 13:33

Java is the Java killer

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 13:34

redhat
runs on jvm
classes
java syntax
polymorphism
WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THIS ENTERPRISE

Name: >>3 2011-11-14 13:45

>>7
I'm not >>5, I wouldn't grace retarded replies like >>4 with a direct comment.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 15:59

when it is released, will run under the Java Virtual Machine.
Why does every software business want to be Oracle's patent bitch? Why must everything run on that glorified p-code shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 16:02

>>11
Because the Jewish academia has brain-washed the last couple of generations of university graduates into thinking that the Virtual Machine is more important than the underlying hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 18:42

>>11,12
Because they want it to work on as many platforms as possible with minimal monetary effort.

In the ENTERPRISE world everything costs money, especially more and new code.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:22

>>13
Not if you use LLVM. Redhat is stupid for not using LLVM.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:44

fuck that.
>on the JVM, looks like Java, same object model.
clojure or abcl are the "Java Killer."

>inb4 SBCL (Python) is the Java Killer

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:55

Why does the JVM suck so much. Why does it have to be controlled by Oracle who doesn't give a damn for supporting functional languages.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 2:01

>>14
Java is far more mature than LLVM.
>>12
Jewish academia ... more important than the underlying hardware.
Citation needed.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 2:03

I do like the [i]improved[i] switch construct and I am intrigued by the union types.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 4:54

Java's portability is overrated though, the official JRE only has Windows (NT), Solaris, Linux, Apple ports, I think the BSDs run JVM in Linux binary emulation (yo dawg). A large part of those billions of devices run KVM on shit phones formerly everywhere non-Japan and now probably in the third world. Java of most sorts isn't available on Wiis (but JavaScript and Flash is), iOS. WinCE requires a VM from some third party or apparently PersonalJava if you like binary archeology. Dalvik Android is in shit with Oracle, or something so who knows what will happen there.

OTOH, Since the 1% likes free stuff to leverage their manufacturing they probably stuck busybox into everything now. Shell scripts and perl are probably overtaking Java for the title of Run EverywhereTM.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 7:15

>>15
Go back to the imageboards as soon as they're back up.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 7:54

>JVM run anywhere
>implying anyone uses non-Intel

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 8:16

>>14
Are you retarded, LLVM is an underdeveloped piece of shit, it's nowhere near being portable.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 12:21

>>19
I can compile and run Java just fine on iOS.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 22:46

I agree with >>9, I think this will be the next step in the ENTERPRISE SCALABLE SYNERGY PROMOTING ladder.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 23:34

If it ain't Lisp, it's crap.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 23:36

Lisp is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-20 17:11

>>9
You can't hold all this ENTERPRISE because you're not business enough.

And with that, I resurrect this thread for the first release of Ceylon.

http://ceylon-lang.org/blog/2011/12/20/ceylon-m1-newton/

It's still a piece of shit though, so don't use it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-20 17:12

>>27
You can't bump with sage, bampu pantsu!

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-22 7:02

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Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:35

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:47

It looks cool, except for running on the JVM. How do you guys feel about the JVM?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:48

>>33
It's a great mature piece of software.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:38

>>34
And like most mature things, it's usually ugly and slow.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:55

JVM

Yeah, I don't think so.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:59

>>15

clojure or abcl are the "Java Killer."

Clojure is a lisp language. It will not be killing anything.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:09

>>35,36
Go back to /g/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:10

It is after all, the olde faithful analytical engine that runs on top of another analytical engine. Gentlemen responsible of machine transcriptions ensure all computerable requisitions be prefixed by CAFEBABE.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:12

>>37
>Clojure is a lisp language. It will not be killing anything.

except itself when it STACK OVERFLOW amirite?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:16

>>37
Clojure is a shit language, not a Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:26

clojure is shit
Java is shit
c# is shit
Ms fanbois are absolute shit
*vm is shit
GC is shit
enterprise is shit
Most of you are shit

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:48

Why do we need another JVM-based language that tries to fix Java when we already have C#, the best language?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:55

C# is just as shitty.
Gtfo ms fanbois


Mono is pure horse shit as well so fuck off and learn a better lang

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 15:05

>>44
``NO, you faggot''

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 16:19

>>45
Go back to whatever hellish imageboard you came from and take your shitty memes with you.

Name: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef 2012-01-13 17:00

Why do we need another Semitic language that tries to fix Aramaic when we already have Hebrew, the best language?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 17:44

Why do we need another Sepples language that tries to fix Algol when we already have Haskell, the best language?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 18:32

>>44
No, it's not quite as bad. It's still horrible for most of the same reasons though.

P.S. Mono isn't a language.
P.P.S. IHBT

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 18:35

>>49
He never said mono was a language you dumb fag. Learn to fucking read you stupid piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 19:05

>>50
It sure reads like it. Potty mouth.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 19:09

>>51
Then learn to read you retarded piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 19:15

>>51
>>49
Stay awake in English class next time kid.

I told you to learn a better language right after telling you C# was shit, being a MS fanboi is shit and trying to pull the `LOL BUT IT NOT JUST MS' Mono bullshit is shit as well.

If you think I referred to Mono as a language than you yourself either don't understand what Mono is int he first place to realize what I meant or you have terrible reading comprehension

Either way go back to whatever hellish imageboard you came from and shit post on there instead of here.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 21:29

>>1
What do you think of Red Hats take on Java/C#?
Yet another curly-brace piece of shit, as we didnt have enough already.

shared interface
Yeah! They added more keyword bloat.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 21:41

>>53
Where'd you get all that about Microsoft? The only mentions I've picked out in this thread seem to be made by you, or someone equally spastic.

Anyway, Mono runs pretty much everywhere and appears to be less stack-hungry than .Net too. Either way, both CLR implementations are fairly efficient and have some good languages, acceptable GC performance (latency vs. throughput), decent interop and support TCO.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-14 0:11

>>55
What don't you understand about MONO IS SHIT?

Yes we know it's cross-platform, I already acknowledged that, IT'S SHIT

Go learn a real language faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-14 0:42

>>56
Yeah. Like Lisp.

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