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Project Ceylon

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 11:56

What do you think of Red Hats take on Java/C#?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceylon_Project

Looks to me like it's just a better Vala, since Vala is infested with the GTK+ GObject shit all over. Although Vala is compiled to C and Ceylon will run on the JVM (GC is shit guy need not apply).

Will this be the Java killer?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 4:54

Java's portability is overrated though, the official JRE only has Windows (NT), Solaris, Linux, Apple ports, I think the BSDs run JVM in Linux binary emulation (yo dawg). A large part of those billions of devices run KVM on shit phones formerly everywhere non-Japan and now probably in the third world. Java of most sorts isn't available on Wiis (but JavaScript and Flash is), iOS. WinCE requires a VM from some third party or apparently PersonalJava if you like binary archeology. Dalvik Android is in shit with Oracle, or something so who knows what will happen there.

OTOH, Since the 1% likes free stuff to leverage their manufacturing they probably stuck busybox into everything now. Shell scripts and perl are probably overtaking Java for the title of Run EverywhereTM.

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