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Project Ceylon

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 11:56

What do you think of Red Hats take on Java/C#?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceylon_Project

Looks to me like it's just a better Vala, since Vala is infested with the GTK+ GObject shit all over. Although Vala is compiled to C and Ceylon will run on the JVM (GC is shit guy need not apply).

Will this be the Java killer?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 11:59

>>1

The Java killer? You mean C#?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:05

>>2
Except C# is only usable on Windows and nobody actually uses it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:18

>>3
>windows
>not the defacto OS
>C#
>not the defacto language

0/10

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:31

>>4
I really hope that image boards will be back up soon. My I suggest you leave now and annoy people with your shitposting somewhere else? Like /r/programming, for example?

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:33

>>4
>POSIX
>Not the defacto OS
>C++
>Not the defacto language
>OpenGL
>Not the defacto library
>QT 4
>Not the generic widget toolkit

-4 / 10

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 12:36

>>5
nobody actually uses it.

No wonder >>4 didn't take your post seriously.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 13:33

Java is the Java killer

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 13:34

redhat
runs on jvm
classes
java syntax
polymorphism
WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THIS ENTERPRISE

Name: >>3 2011-11-14 13:45

>>7
I'm not >>5, I wouldn't grace retarded replies like >>4 with a direct comment.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 15:59

when it is released, will run under the Java Virtual Machine.
Why does every software business want to be Oracle's patent bitch? Why must everything run on that glorified p-code shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 16:02

>>11
Because the Jewish academia has brain-washed the last couple of generations of university graduates into thinking that the Virtual Machine is more important than the underlying hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-14 18:42

>>11,12
Because they want it to work on as many platforms as possible with minimal monetary effort.

In the ENTERPRISE world everything costs money, especially more and new code.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:22

>>13
Not if you use LLVM. Redhat is stupid for not using LLVM.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:44

fuck that.
>on the JVM, looks like Java, same object model.
clojure or abcl are the "Java Killer."

>inb4 SBCL (Python) is the Java Killer

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 1:55

Why does the JVM suck so much. Why does it have to be controlled by Oracle who doesn't give a damn for supporting functional languages.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 2:01

>>14
Java is far more mature than LLVM.
>>12
Jewish academia ... more important than the underlying hardware.
Citation needed.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 2:03

I do like the [i]improved[i] switch construct and I am intrigued by the union types.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 4:54

Java's portability is overrated though, the official JRE only has Windows (NT), Solaris, Linux, Apple ports, I think the BSDs run JVM in Linux binary emulation (yo dawg). A large part of those billions of devices run KVM on shit phones formerly everywhere non-Japan and now probably in the third world. Java of most sorts isn't available on Wiis (but JavaScript and Flash is), iOS. WinCE requires a VM from some third party or apparently PersonalJava if you like binary archeology. Dalvik Android is in shit with Oracle, or something so who knows what will happen there.

OTOH, Since the 1% likes free stuff to leverage their manufacturing they probably stuck busybox into everything now. Shell scripts and perl are probably overtaking Java for the title of Run EverywhereTM.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 7:15

>>15
Go back to the imageboards as soon as they're back up.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 7:54

>JVM run anywhere
>implying anyone uses non-Intel

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 8:16

>>14
Are you retarded, LLVM is an underdeveloped piece of shit, it's nowhere near being portable.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 12:21

>>19
I can compile and run Java just fine on iOS.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 22:46

I agree with >>9, I think this will be the next step in the ENTERPRISE SCALABLE SYNERGY PROMOTING ladder.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 23:34

If it ain't Lisp, it's crap.

Name: Anonymous 2011-11-15 23:36

Lisp is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-20 17:11

>>9
You can't hold all this ENTERPRISE because you're not business enough.

And with that, I resurrect this thread for the first release of Ceylon.

http://ceylon-lang.org/blog/2011/12/20/ceylon-m1-newton/

It's still a piece of shit though, so don't use it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-20 17:12

>>27
You can't bump with sage, bampu pantsu!

Name: Anonymous 2011-12-22 7:02

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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-22 7:02

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Name: Anonymous 2011-12-22 7:03

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Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:35

First IDE is out.

http://ceylon-lang.org/blog/2012/01/10/ceylon-ide-m1-newton/

Code is available here

https://github.com/ceylon

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:47

It looks cool, except for running on the JVM. How do you guys feel about the JVM?

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 12:48

>>33
It's a great mature piece of software.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:38

>>34
And like most mature things, it's usually ugly and slow.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:55

JVM

Yeah, I don't think so.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 13:59

>>15

clojure or abcl are the "Java Killer."

Clojure is a lisp language. It will not be killing anything.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:09

>>35,36
Go back to /g/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:10

It is after all, the olde faithful analytical engine that runs on top of another analytical engine. Gentlemen responsible of machine transcriptions ensure all computerable requisitions be prefixed by CAFEBABE.

Name: Anonymous 2012-01-13 14:12

>>37
>Clojure is a lisp language. It will not be killing anything.

except itself when it STACK OVERFLOW amirite?
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