and the speed you gain by using them doesn't matter shit these days unless you're making the latest and greatest 3D game.
Fucking manual memory management. Fuck in the ass.
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Anonymous2007-03-11 8:13 ID:TPDbVUG5
>>1
Yeah, make a bloated OS with a piece of crap like Java and come say this again fucktard.
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Anonymous2007-03-11 8:43 ID:VzWPtn1Q
>>1
You're free to go play with your "Hello World"s using whatever you want, so don't bother us.
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Anonymous2007-03-11 8:50 ID:E3G5KMuW
YHBT
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Anonymous2007-03-11 9:45 ID:SlNLaC3R
HELLO I AM STEPHEN HAWKING THE RETARDED PROGRAMMER, COMPANION OF HONOR, COMMANDER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, FELLOW OF THE ROYAL SOCIETY AND THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF ARTS. LAST NIGHT I HAD BEEN PROGRAMMING C/C++ FOR HOURS UPON HOURS DUE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAVE MY HOUSE ON MY OWN AND I CAME UPON A PORNOGRAPHY WEB SIGHT WHILE SEARCHING FOR THE SPECIFICATION OF THE CREATETHREADEX FUNCTION. I IMMEDIATELY LEFT THE PORNOGRAPHY WEB SIGHT. I GUARANTEE IT.
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Anonymous2007-03-11 10:07 ID:EZK/ZB8U
Here we go again, *sigh*
One word, the forced indentation of code. Thread over.
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Anonymous2007-03-11 11:10 ID:3G+sitSR
cout<<"lol, he hates C/C++, boo hoo the world is over";
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Anonymous2007-03-11 15:04 ID:CDa5ktr4
>>1
Durr, you can find several libraries for doing memory management for you if you are so inclined.
new and delete are for fags.
real men use malloc() and free().
real REAL men write their OWN malloc and free().
and real real REAL men don't use memory at all and do everything in registers!
You realize that you don't have to do your own memory management in C++, right? Its one of the most customizable languages out there. By default, it has no memory management - but that doesn't mean you cant use a library that offers it. Go read about smart pointers and educate yourself a bit.
Flexability, native output and nearly unparalleled target platforms are why C/C++ exist. Speed is just a nice benefit of having everyone working with it.
Chances are, the author of the OP has not recieved the adequate training/education to write in any language. I find, as a programmer who writes in C++, and having to hook up to collaborate with other companies that use, say for example, Java or something, that people who cannot handle the memory management in C++ cannot handle foundational design techniques and so thier stuff sucks anyway. You would have retained more respect if you just said "I hate C++ because curly brackets are t3h gayzorz"
FUCKIN AMEN
IVE BEEN LERNING C++, BUT EVERY BOOK ON IT IS DEATHLY AFRAID OF USING C COMMANDS. IT TOOK WRITING A PROGRAM THAT LOADS A DECENT AMOUNT OF RAM TO LERN THE DIFFERENCE.
AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THEIR LACK OF USE OF FOPEN FOR BINARY FILES. EVERY BOOK IVE SEEN WANTS ME TO USE *CHAR AND CASTING INSTEAD.
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Anonymous2007-03-15 5:29 ID:1Q/AlG+9
C++ purists are faggits
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ur all newbhat fatgets2007-03-15 11:25 ID:CSjamJSz
retards, learn a fuckin language and use it for what it was designed for, don't like it? then just go sit in the dark corner and cry while you cut yourself. noone just randomly makes a programming language, they're purpose built. PROTIP: Don't learn a programming language or ANYTHING for that matter from a book by yourself, you're better off becoming an hero right now - go to school
>>35
Naw, he's right. If you don't like how it is, don't use it. Everyone has their personal preference to something, so if it's not yours, you shouldn't bitch about it. Go use whatever programming language you think is good. ;-)
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Anonymous2007-03-15 17:02 ID:sz/T3s1E
Anyway, if you listen to everyone, every damn programming language is shitty for x (good or bad) reasons. All you can do is choosing the less shitty for you.
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Anonymous2007-03-15 19:48 ID:FdzVevjD
Or stop programming
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Anonymous2007-03-15 22:21 ID:nsS8VaX0
Or learn LISP.
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Anonymous2007-03-16 5:57 ID:SfFGBoGd
Or learn Ruby. Kanbare!
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Anonymous2007-03-16 6:57 ID:xUMUCfHv
Or learn Python. Ssssssssssss
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Anonymous2007-03-16 7:26 ID:W8BxcXoN
<Or learn XML. />
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Anonymous2007-03-16 7:46 ID:CQD9Dm4A
statement = or . learn
main = return $ statement HaskellLanguage
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Anonymous2007-03-16 9:25 ID:Ek7vMSji
U r doin it rite
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Anonymous2007-03-16 9:53 ID:SfFGBoGd
|&)"=/()"perl(//&!)
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Anonymous2007-03-16 12:59 ID:O6oti9VS
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You have to learn the basics (C/C++) before you can do somthing worthwhile/advanced (like lisp, ML, O'caml etc)
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Anonymous2007-03-16 15:39 ID:mtRgu4t7
>>50
Oh what the hell. C++ is anything but 'the basics'. It's the most baroque, overcomplicated shithole mess of a language that ever was or ever will be.
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Anonymous2007-03-16 15:54 ID:SOCbrcB9
>>51
What? No. Java. But complication isn't really the problem. Haskell is more complicated, but very fun. C++ is just hyper-repetitive, dull and inconsistent. Made to turn people into complacent office drones, in other words.
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Anonymous2007-03-16 16:13 ID:KiXdvfq8
>>52
What's more fun, a massive C++ STL error message or a massive Haskell error message (caused by several nested monads?)?
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Anonymous2007-03-16 16:14 ID:f9Ii/4ZB
>>52
50 here, this was exactly my point, thanks for explaining it in simple words for >>51
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Anonymous2007-03-16 20:09 ID:jIlzKfrF
What people don't seem to understand is that C++ is easy as fuck to learn and C is easier and JAVA, perl, ruby, C#, python etc are complicated like hell languages and they are made of massive slowness because there are 32875 USELESS FEATURES THAT YOU CAN EASELY REMAKE IN C OR C++ BUT WITHOUT HAVING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND IF YOU'RE TO LAZY TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT DOES THE SAME THING IN C/C++ YOU DOWNLOAD A FUCKING LIBRARY THAT DOES YOUR NIGGER WORK FOR YOU. Less features = win, ASM is superior. Thread and /prog/ over.
>>55
That's retarded. First, at least Python is easier to learn than C++. Second, I'd like to see how you implement in C/C++ closures, introspection, run-time class and function definition and manipulation, generators, coroutines, and so on.
>>8
You can do something like that when using the FFI(semi-portable), but most objects (outside of FFI use) are either stack-alloced or GC'able. Of course, if you need more detailed GC/allocation control, implementations tend to give it to you through less portable means.
>>89
Of couse most objects are handled by the GC, Lisp is a superior language.
I was referring to when you have to work with libraries written in C or inferior languages such C++. (through FFI)
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Anonymous2011-01-06 6:32
I like both LISP and C++ and 5 years ago I'd say LISP and C
I like LISP for its productivity and it's programmer friendliness, and I like C++ for providing all the tools you need to write optimized, low footprint projects.
Bitches don't know about my billion dollar microcontroller industry.
Bitches don't know about my billion dollar smartphone industry
Bitches don't know about my billion dollar operating system industry
Bitches don't know about my billion dollar videogame and media industry
>>1
Enjoy your Java, implemented in Python, run in a C# VM, written in Haskell, implemented in Visualbasic, implemented in LITHP, implemented in PHP, compiled in PHP, re-implemented in PHP, optimized in PHP, OMG OPTIMIZED in PHP, implemented in JavaScript, re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-implemented in Bash, compiled by a Pascal Compiler.
Bringing /prog/ back to its people
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