Libertarianism - A dying belief

Why is libertarianism bad?

Why are there so few libertarians?

It must be bad, because so many refuse it.

Libertarian isnt bad, its only a political belief. Its based on simple ideas that most people agree with.

I'm not a libertarian but the number of people believing in something has little relation to how right it is. That's a pretty dumb thing to say.

Why is Judaism bad?

Why are there so few Jews?

It must be bad, because so many refuse it.

Because it's not a main stream party and no one is interested in anything but party politics.

Why is rape bad?

Why are there so few rapists?

It must be bad, because so many refuse it.

Why is pedophilia bad?

Why are there so few pedos?

It must be bad, because so many refuse it.

I used to be libertarian but now that I am 23 I can see that the majority of people need to be told what to do. E.g.: Gambling. True libertarianism that treats every individual as a rational actor cannot exist without being bastardized, which puts the whole idea into question.

Now I'm for a benevolent dictatorship.

Libertarianism is bad because it is a grotesque combination of Social Darwinism and Capitalism's worst tendencies. It assumes that all people start life with the same potential at the same socioeconomic level and then decries those who can't measure up.

Most libertarians have it pretty good all in all, and more importantly came from places where the thinking is "If you just work hard enough, you'll catch the right breaks and you'll be successful."  This isn't a bad sentiment in itself (hard work does pay off in one way or another), the issue is they can't fathom that their parents station in life determined their station in life - "Well just go to college and then get a job!" doesn't really work in the South Bronx or Brixton or whereverthefuck ghetto you can think of. There are success stories, but more often than not the story is "look at this bright young black child overcoming her awful surroundings".

It's great to be able to take advantage of opportunities. Nobody has an issue with people using their talents to better their life. Libertarians assume that the same opportunities are always available to everyone, and it's fucking insane. Also they hate paying taxes and are content with making everybody else pay more so they have to pay less. It's selfish and it's a slap in the face to democratic society.

>>9
Well just go to college and then get a job!
Actually, it doensn't work for me, because I was expelled from school at the first year, then commited to mental institution.

Now all employers refuse to give me a job, because I have no school education and have child "schizophrenia" records. Despite the whole "schizophrenia" disease being a hoax, just like autsism and ADHD hoaxes.

I think, government should discipline private businesses and force them to accept schizophrenia/adhd/autism employees. I.e. every business should employ at least one proven schizo patient.

I would like to believe that the conditions found in a truly free market would inspire humanity as a whole to greatness, but I can’t. Aside from the problems of instigating such an economic state without facing self-contradiction in the organizational process (Rawls’ “original position”, anyone?), I can’t help but feel that incentives to create, think, and produce will not have much effect on the majority of people. Base pleasure, comfort, and subscription to the herd mentality seem to be the prime motivators of the average person. If everyone wanted to be the kind of person who listens to Hofstadter audiobooks on their smartphone while biking from their business to their private charity, we wouldn’t be in the global societal shit-hole we are now.

Libertarian society is a dream world that can only be reached by eugenics and/ or other self-contradicting tampering with society to bring about a "fair" starting position for people who will be motivated by economic incentives to produce at or near capacity.

If people could learn to be self-sufficient then eugenics would not be necessary. Theres plenty of space on our planet to harbor life for the population we currently have. The problem comes from trying to centralize the production of power and food to a small area for the whole population.

Libertarianism is about free trade without the influence of government. I agree that society is not ready for idea as radical as that. Most people today are so indoctrinated that they must have a government telling them what to do. On the other hand i see a "great awakening" happening within the realms of the internet, and i believe this will spread.

The best thing we can do as individuals is to raise our children in a non-violent non-aggressive lifestyle. To repel the indoctrination of our youth by government entities. In order to prove that a peace loving nation is better then a war mongering nation.

Who says we cant have a utopia? The belief that this idea is impossible only inhibits the progression towards a utopia.

>>11
Hofstadter
Jew.

>>12
The best thing we can do as individuals is to raise our children in a non-violent non-aggressive lifestyle.
Do it. Make you children cattle. While I will raise my children as lions and wolves, who will feast on your children.

>>10
You don't have to put it on your resume you know.

>>11
>I can’t help but feel that incentives to create, think, and produce will not have much effect on the majority of people.
That's because there's virtually no consequence for failure and no one is willing to tell failures that the vices they permit to exist are to blame.

There's a dangerous majority that will always tell you that it's not your fault, there's always something or someone else to blame and you never have to improve, the government will protect you from yourself.

>>14

You are mistaking Non-aggression Principle for being a wuss. There is a major difference between believing that human interaction should be based on voluntary actions from both sides and not having the balls to barter to your own good.

The only good thing we can do as individuals is to kill all kikes and raise our children in a kike-killing lifestyle.

>>18
This is why we cant have nice things.

Corporations are not inherently evil. The only reason corporations have grown to such an irresponsible level is because of government subsidies and corporate lobbyists who influence government interests. It seems to me that the issue is not corporations but it is government control that creates imbalance. How do governments have such power to influence the economy in such a way? Military, and Police force.

"Dont break the law or else" - Government

Most of the time these laws only benefit the elite and continue the segregation of rich and poor. AKA, 21st century slavery

Lets say that one day all global governments are dissolved and the free market is left to its own endeavors. Will it be possible for a few elitists to take control of the market without the influence of government entities?

>>19
The only reason corporations have grown to such an irresponsible level is because of...
Because of Talmudic kikes, holding control shares and corrupting host country.

Lets say that one day all global governments are dissolved and the free market is left to its own endeavors.
Mercenary armies will popup and form new governments through continuous wars.

You have to understand, that government is here for you own good, else all these chimpout niggers will start a tribal war, breaking into your home, killing you and raping your wife and daughter.

>>16
There's a dangerous majority that will always tell you that it's not your fault, there's always something or someone else to blame and you never have to improve
True, but there are also those trying to blame you for everything.

These are ways to manipulate people, the less people can tell the difference between criticism and insults or between praise and flattery the more authoritarian the government is going to be. The less people are dependent on experts to find valid answers and the less experts are trying to twist the truth into lies the less authoritarian the government will be.

Libertarianism is like any other ideology in that its lofty ideals inspire people into action and may have some effect (though not necessarily positive as in the case of communism) but the utopia it is trying to reach may not necessarily be possible given socio-economic conditions. The alternative of course would be a more generalist ideology, perhaps better described as a "political philosophy", which both tells people where improvements should be made while at the same time accepting fallibility and categorically rejecting silly fantasies.

Major banks obviously run by jews:   Bank of Jewish China, Bank of Jewish Japan, Bank of Jewish England, US Federal reserve Jewish bank (ignore the english blue-blood names--they are fakes), Bank of Moscow, Deutch/German Bank for jews, Saudi Arabian Jewish Bank, UAE Jewish bank,  First bank of Jewish India...
You guys are all really on to something.

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>>22
Shalom, Hymie!

The whole point of private owned central banks and currency board economy is to subordinate independent countries under some commanding entity.

Libertarianism isn't bad. Only American "libertarianism" is, because it draws an arbitrary boundary between the big bad state and the glorious free market when both are systems riddled by bureaucracy and hierarchal authority that prevent individuals from living their lives as they see fit. True libertarianism, in the European/left-wing understanding of the term, doesn't make such meaningless distinctions.

Europe isnt much better off then America. If anything its only a second runner compared to us. The problem with society isnt bound by countries. Its bound my human nature. The will to oppress another individual for personal gain is the sole contributor to global demise. Thats what libertarianism is about, in my mind. Put whatever label on you want, thats how i choose to live my life. To live a beneficial life without imposing any harm on any other person.

>>25
No libertarianism is bad because it leads to corporate slavery.

lol wut?

Libertarianism is bad because it is essentially Marxism. It asks for no regulation, no oversight, and to allow the markets do as they please. That is great in theory, but the problem is that many companies become so big that no other business can compete in that field. What you end up with is a business/corporation that rules that field of business and they charge you whatever the hell they want for the product. Then people become too poor to buy stuff and we end up in a socialistic environment because the poor cannot afford anything.

>>27
>>29
Forming a monopoly is very difficult in the unfettered competition of a free market, only businesses with a temporary technological lead like Standard Oil and Microsoft can get close, but rarely do they ever totally control a sector. You don't need the government to step in with anti-trust laws.

If anything, the government interferes with market forces, making economic calculations less efficient and making it more difficult for small businesses in favor of big cartels.

>>30
Forming a monopoly is very difficult in the ... free market
Easy. One gets the lead, then bribes/assassinates officials, so they pass laws favoring his activity, until it reaches complete monopoly over every economic niche and fill government with his supporters, by rigging votes and eliminating opposition.

A good example is Russia, which started relatively free market, quickly ending in monopoly of a few Jew-backed oligarchs, who then started eliminating each other.

>>31
Other example is Weimar Germany, where free market ended first into complete Jewish oligarchy domination and then into Nazi Germany, because Germans had little enthusiasm serving the Jewish oligarchs.

So, libertarianism is a political philisophy only suited to an ethnically pure society derived of Northern and Western European White Christian culture, amirite?

>>33
Libertarianism is not suited to anything. If not for Jews, some other mafia group would have monopolized Weimar Germany.

>>34
For example, America once had competition between Jewish and Italian mafias, which Jews won and subsequently legalized their capital.

>>31
If the government cannot intervene in the economy, how can it favor one private business over another?

The free market suppresses this avenue for corruption, while in mixed economies or governments with neo-keynesian policies the government has greater reach thus greater rewards to be gained from corruption, a larger more complex government is also more difficult to monitor making the process easier as well.

Corruption is not solely in the blatant form of bribery and assassination. Often politicians are mooks who would not be there if it were not for their "benefactors" and do not need multi-million dollar bribes or the fear of assassination to be neutralized politically. In order to end this circus the voting public merely needs to adopt libertarian values and principles and accept not just the limitations of government which have made libertarians controversial but also look at the actual role and function of government and where things need to be improved.

Do we need a tariff on sugar or do we need stronger local governments that can better manage their utilities and services? Do we need another pointless war that will drag on for a decade or lower taxes?

>>36
If the government cannot intervene in the economy
The whole point of the government is the intervention in the economy.

The free market suppresses this avenue for corruption
Free market is impossible without government. And free market itself promotes bribery and cronyism.

Do we need another pointless war that will drag on for a decade or lower taxes?
American wars are waged for resource control - every dollar you put into war, will give you ten, so even a useless ghetto nigger could live on welfare and war also provides military employment for these niggers. Stuff like security of Israel is an additional spiritual bonus. So wars aint pointless, but well rewarded in capital and religion.

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issued by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

Then, after spending the day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, I drive back to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and the fire marshall's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log onto the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

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