I found this gem by Darwin of all people:

"Both sexes ought to refrain from marriage if they are in any marked degree inferior in body or mind"

I may infer that this means interracial marriage is awwwright so long as both parties are equally stupid.

>>2
There's still a problem with that though. Even if the partners are equal in intelligence, the IQ of the offspring will regress towards the racial average of inferior race.

For example, two white people both with an IQ of 100 will produce a kid with an IQ of 100 on average.

However a white and black couple both with an IQ of 100 will produce a kid with an IQ ~90 on average.

>>3

Indeed.

Racial inferiors are inferior regardless of environment.

Do we want the human race to remain splendidly diverse and beautiful?  Or do we just want everyone to eventually be gray?

Niggers are stupid.

>>3

>the IQ of the offspring will regress towards the racial average of inferior race.

Indeed.
That's called "regression to/towards the mean"

BTW, this Darwin quote fits Obama to a T:

"I think these authors are right, who maintain that the ass has a prepotent power over the horse, so that both the mule and the hinny more resemble the ass than the horse; but that the prepotency runs more strongly in the male-ass than in the female, so that the mule, which is the offspring of the male-ass and mare, is more like an ass, than is the hinny, which is the offspring of the female-ass and stallion."

lulz

>>7
lol wut. I give up trying to understand that quote.

>>8

OK, I'll summurize it for u:

"If u go black there's no way of coming back"

Darn, wuts dis, /b/astards on my /p/ ???

I've only seen interracial marriage between white males and asian females. When niggers get anything pregnant they disappear.

I've seen the stats, something like 25% of black people are as intelligent as the top 50% of white people. If that's the case why not simply get rid of the stupid blacks and keep the smart ones? I see no arguments in favour of racism, only social darwinism. I think sometime in this century a new form of fascism will arise that is all inclusive rather than nation/ethno based and all the rednecks and niggers will be sent to the concentration camps so that black and white people can live comfortable civilised lives.

>>11
You're half right.  But it's more likely that the smartest people will be culled while the dumbest people are encouraged to increase their numbers.  No form of fascism wants a populace of intelligent and informed people.

>>12

So fucking true.

Posting in Stormfront thread.

Listen, the verdict is still very much out on what- if anything- IQ tests gauge when it comes to intelligence. What has been repeatedly said however, is that it can in no way be an indicator of intelligence on a genetic basis. What we know about intelligence itself is based on many assumptions and mostly environmental factors we think equal "success". It's all subjective. All that the test itself guages can be learned.

Secondly, what do these threads or lines of thought of accomplish, really? Shouldn't this thread be called "inter-racial marriage: what are you gonna fuckin' do about it except try to convince other morons to think like you on the internet?"

Pure ethics hardly exist (or are irrelevant) in the countries where issues like these flow in the undercurrent of (usually nationalistic) ideals. The facist society and beauacratic infrastructure needed to implement your ideas would certainly backfire and would be a step backwards as far as human progress goes.

>>14
Yeah let's interbreed with negroes, a race who haven't produced a single great genius in hisotry... I'm sure it will be good for mankind...

>>14
human progress

Oh lawd.

Niggers ARE stupid, genetically they are not as smart as other race. Can you name me any black mathematicians? I could name you fucking loads of white or jewish ones. Can you name me many black physicists? Black philosophers? Because I fucking can't.

I don't see how it can be justified to let these people in the genepool of the more intelligent races, after all we want more intelligent people and less unintelligent.

>>16
Dude, that's because of the white conspiracy. Everyone knows that!

>>16
Yeah and notice that most famous so-called black intellectuals write only about "black issues"--things like racism and politics from a black viewpoint; a viewpoint blacks have a monopoly on. Thomas Sowell is the exception, since he's a respectable academic economist and is not acclaimed only for works on black issues.

>>15

People have been interbreeding for a very long time. Like since before Africa was colonized. You do know that, right?

>>16

Just because you repeat your statment and throw a capitalzed "ARE" in there doesn't make you less retarded. What you don't know makes you look stupid.

William A. Massey is the Edwin S. Wiley Professor of Operations Research and Financial Engineering at Princeton University. A native of Jefferson City, Missouri, Massey is a graduate of Princeton University and holds a Ph.D. in mathematics from Stanford University. For more than 20 years Professor Massey was a top engineer at Bell Laboratories before coming to Princeton in 2001. Dr. Massey has published more than 50 academic papers on applied probability analysis. He was cited 59 times in academic journals in 2004.

• Emery N. Brown, a mathematical biologist, is director of the Neuroscience Statistics Research Laboratory at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. He also serves as an associate professor of anaesthesia at Harvard Medical School. His research is in the area of neural information coding, which uses mathematical techniques to decipher how neurons receive and transmit information.

Dr. Brown is a Harvard man to the core. He is a 1978 magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College. He holds a master's and Ph.D. in statistics from Harvard and is also a graduate of the Harvard Medical School. Dr. Brown is widely published in academic journals. He was cited 45 times by his peers in 2004, placing him third in the JBHE rankings.

• Richard L. Baker is a professor of mathematics at the University of Iowa in Iowa City. His research interests are in operator algebras, particularly in non-selfadjoint operator algebras. He is also interested in quantum field theory and distributive artificial intelligence. He holds a Ph.D. in mathematics from the University of California at Berkeley and has published more than a dozen scholarly articles. His 37 citations in 2004 place him fourth in the JBHE rankings.

• In fifth place in JBHE's rankings of the most highly cited black mathematicians is Professor Carl Prather of Virginia Tech. A graduate of Trinity College, Professor Prather holds a master's degree and a Ph.D. from Northwestern University. He has published more than 20 scholarly papers in academic journals on subjects such as complex analysis and operator theory.

• David Blackwell, the professor emeritus of statistics at the University of California at Berkeley, is perhaps the most highly cited and well-known black mathematician of all time. By the age of 22 he had earned bachelor's, master's and Ph.D. degrees from the University of Illinois. In 1941 he was the seventh African American to ever hold a Ph.D. in mathematics. At one time Professor Blackwell was the only African-American member of the National Academy of Sciences.

Anyway, you miss my point. You talk about "justification" for people breeding in "your clean genepool". But that's all it is. TALK. How are you gonna make sure people don't interbreed? What are you gonna do to stop it? Do you really think you can? Do you think by virtue of being white that you alone should be worthy of breeding rights? Are you that much of virgin? Are you going to answer any of this questions? Of course not. You're just a stormfront faggot who sniffs little kid's bike seat.

Ya Peace of shit. :)

>>12
The would more likely create a social darwinist class system with the most intelligent as leaders, generals, economists and scientists, those of moderate intelligence as the engineers, officers, clerks etc.. and an underclass of labourers and soldiers.

>>19

I know there are black mathematicians. But how many could you name without going to 'blackscientists.com'? How many are pioneers in thier fields? Maybe give me 100 examples and then you might have something. After all we are talking about averages here aren't we.
Answer me this, have you met any very smart black people? How many?

Jews have something like 5 times the expected ammount of scientific discovery compared to scientists of other races, you're telling me this is coincidence? Add to that the fact that Jews have been on the recieving end of racism in Europe and America as well. Look at the list of richest people in the world, it's like reading a list of invitations to a bah mitzvah, even though there are somthing like 13 million jews in the world. I don't think these are conincidenced tbh.

If you go into it there are differences in intellignce between races, the only question is around how intelligence should be quantified.

>Anyway, you miss my point. You talk about "justification" for people breeding in "your clean genepool". But that's all it is. TALK. How are you gonna make sure people don't interbreed? What are you gonna do to stop it?

Kick all the negros out, how do you think? That is the only way really.

I'm not so nihilistic as to submit in the face of only presumed inevitability. Not that it is an inevitability at all. How are the Japanese going stop breeding into the African population? By not bringing them over.

>>21

All I did was enter the phrase "black mathematicians" in google. Whether or not they're "pioneers" is a non-point. You said they didn't even exist! At any rate, they have creditentials that you and I clearly aren't able of getting ourselves.

"If you go into it there are differences in intellignce between races, the only question is around how intelligence should be quantified."

You said it, buddy. People must smarter than us have already "gone into it". This is why the scientific community generally takes exception to anyone who comes out and says that *any* group is "genetically inferior in intellect". Not only do we have questions as to how to quantify intelligence but we also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors.

"Kick all the negros out, how do you think? That is the only way really."

Yes. I gathered that. But *HOW*? Do you really think there's a government on the planet that allow anything of the sort? Do you really think every person that cries about blacks is gonna be willing to pick up a gun and force "a nigger" out of their home? Even you can admit and that *you* wouldn't do it. Are you prepare to offer the lives of your family up to those that will arm themselves and resist? Are you going to really attempt a facism that would deny another person the freedom of co-existence? This is what I don't understand. You say you hate blacks and niggers and non-whites, yet you aren't killing, you aren't educating yourself to enter public office, you aren't a part of a facist organization that has any power. You're just bawww'ing over the internet.

And don't even bring Japan into this, you little weeabo. You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese. If you want to live like that, you weeabo, then go there. We won't miss you.

>>20

Like in Vonnegut's Player Piano, right? *sigh* FAIL.

>>22
And don't even bring Japan into this, you little weeabo. You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese. If you want to live like that, you weeabo, then go there. We won't miss you.
Hahahahahhahah OH WOW.

>>22
All I did was enter the phrase "black mathematicians" in google. Whether or not they're "pioneers" is a non-point. You said they didn't even exist! At any rate, they have creditentials that you and I clearly aren't able of getting ourselves.

I didn't say they didn't exsist, I said I couldn't name any. As there are plenty of mathematicians from all aroudn the globe, except black countries. And funnily enough I am a mathematics student.

This is why the scientific community generally takes exception to anyone who comes out and says that *any* group is "genetically inferior in intellect".

Who doesn't? That is political correctness for you. I doubt they'd even be allowed by thier respective institutions to do the research even if they wanted.

Are you going to really attempt a facism that would deny another person the freedom of co-existence?

It doesn't really boil down to that does it. This is white seperatism. Not nazism. And freedom to co-exsist doesn't mean freedom to breed us and themselves out of exsistance.

But *HOW*?

First deport black criminals to Africa (lol that'd be most of em gone :D ) then compensated expatriation, then volentary expatriation, then forced but with thier assets, then forced with out assets.
Is Africa going to complain about literate black people comming over with skills and money? I don't think so, we might even be able to get them to compensate us for the wealth the black people would be taking with them.


I don't think this is a question about feasibility, anything is feasible if we want or need it enough.
But really who benefits from miscegnation? We loose our identiity, they lose thiers. All that is left is a pop cultured, homeless, historyless race which doesn't know where it came from or where it is going. Who benefits? No one does.

>>22
You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese.

Just this one last thing. I don't think we'd fall into trite mimickary, that is precisely what I don't want. The presivation of authentic and valuable (beautiful?) culture is half the purpose of being anti-miscegnation.
Western culture IS dying, you know that, and multiculturalism is the cancer killing it. Like all countries were 'monocultured' borign places before 'diversity', were they fuck. Every section of the country and every class ect had its own culture, every institution even. Multiculturalism demands conformity if anything. I'm rambling.

"I didn't say they didn't exsist, I said I couldn't name any. As there are plenty of mathematicians from all aroudn the globe, except black countries. And funnily enough I am a mathematics student."

Right. And I'm a member of Skull and Bones. Listen, you said you couldn't name any as if that meant they didn't exist. So what if you can't name any? What difference does that fucking make? Mathematicians aren't rock stars, alot of people can't even name white ones without a google search. Your point is moot. Meaningless. Empty. Inane.

And I find it very convienant that you blame everything on "PC", but the moment some black person on TV says "Whitey". You're pulling up forums and calling people "Nigger". You're also very wrong, there is a lot of research in this field and it's not something that's hard to find funding for. It's the results themselves that have always been in question.

The "researchers" (I won't call them scientists) that set out to prove the "inferiority of negroids still are incapable of answering questions as to how to quantify intelligence but also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors. --- Funny you had trouble doing that in this very thread.

"It doesn't really boil down to that does it. This is white seperatism. Not nazism. And freedom to co-exsist doesn't mean freedom to breed us and themselves out of exsistance."

Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism. Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

I think you are a truly confused individual. It's not "white seperatism" when you offer other whites no choice but to do what you want. It's facism, pure and simple. Just be honest with yourself. Answer my questions: Do you really think there's a government on the planet that allow anything of the sort? Do you really think every person that cries about blacks is gonna be willing to pick up a gun and force "a nigger" out of their home? Even you can admit and that *you* wouldn't do it. Are you prepare to offer the lives of your family up to those that will arm themselves and resist?

...because people will resist this and there will be no way to stop it aside from facism.

"First deport black criminals to Africa (lol that'd be most of em gone :D ) then compensated expatriation, then volentary expatriation, then forced but with thier assets, then forced with out assets. Is Africa going to complain about literate black people comming over with skills and money? I don't think so, we might even be able to get them to compensate us for the wealth the black people would be taking with them.

Again, how would you do this? There's not very many people who would work for a government office that would do this. There are rich blacks who would use their money to resist this. By the way, the bond you think Africans and Black Americans share is pretty non-existant. Don't let Jesse Jackson or others fool you. Alot of blacks don't give a shit about African and alot of African's hate black Americans.


Just this one last thing. I don't think we'd fall into trite mimickary, that is precisely what I don't want. The presivation of authentic and valuable (beautiful?) culture is half the purpose of being anti-miscegnation.

Anti-miscegnation are the Japanese and the Chinese who spend most of their time emulating others to hilarious results and this is despite the serious efforts taken to keep foreigners out. Not that I even have anything against the Japanese, I think they're culture is theirs and in truth the Japanese too have been race-mixing for quite a bit, though admittedly not on the same scale as the west.

Western culture IS dying, you know that, and ulticulturalism is the cancer killing it. Like all countries were monocultured' borign places before 'diversity', were they fuck. Every section of the country and every class ect had its own culture, every institution even. Multiculturalism demands conformity if anything. I'm rambling.

I know you're rambling. I think you know what you're saying is bullshit. Historically speaking only small pockets of "Western Culture" have been isolationists. I'm sorry, but it's just the truth. Those responsible for spreading it have had a habit of intermingling with other races and cultures to a degree that the east can't nor have they had interest in and this has been apart of their problem.

Sure our Empires fall, but they're supposed to. Our ideals live on because we make sure they run through the under current of every society. Western wars have never just been about the exportation and aquisiition of power, but of culture as well. If you'd take a good look at what western culture is and was...you'd realize how silly your feelings of bigotry are.

The Frenchman Galois who died at age twenty did more for mathematics than all the blacks who have walked the earth. End of discussion on "black mathematicians".

>>27
So what if you can't name any? What difference does that fucking make? Mathematicians aren't rock stars, alot of people can't even name white ones without a google search. Your point is moot. Meaningless. Empty. Inane.

Well I am a mathematician and I can name loads off the top of my head, that is the point, for me anyway.

The "researchers" (I won't call them scientists) that set out to prove the "inferiority of negroids still are incapable of answering questions as to how to quantify intelligence but also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors. --- Funny you had trouble doing that in this very thread.

Cognitive science is still in relitively early stages, purhaps they will do it one day.

Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism.

No that would be the rule of law. Stop throwing around 'fascism' lol.

Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

Segregation would be suitable, although not satisfactory to secure the survival of the races. Surely that would be 'co-exsistence'.

I think you are a truly confused individual. It's not "white seperatism" when you offer other whites no choice but to do what you want.

Well it'd be more like 'co-oporate or go with em'.

But alternatly to that just a piece of land, anywhere would suffice. No bloodshed, no hatred, just a small country for white people. Although that is the last option imo, it is looking like the only reasonable one. And after all Jews have thiers.

Again, how would you do this?

Well it would need a good portion of whites to go along with it, and it'd need alot of apathy from the rest of em. This couldn't just be me and a few mates off stormfront. To get blacks out of America it would have to be a 1940's stye nazi revolution.

But don't get things twisted and think people are 'less racist' nowadays, under that horribly oppressive over socialisation that people go through nowadays there will all ways be a 'we and them' connplex. And in times of trouble that is all to easy to touch.

But now I'm talking as if America can be saved, it can't, half your white women are with negros anyway. The white race is dead in America, and so is America. Lol enjoy your union with mexico.
 
Our ideals live on because we make sure they run through the under current of every society.

You actually believe this tripe? You are hopelessly 'progressive', suicidally progressive more like.

Multiculturalism isn't really western culture, it is from frankfurt school jews, and that really is the thing killing us. And the Jewish immigration policy, you think I'm a crack pot? This is all some tin foil hat nonsense? Fucking go check it out mate. Why is neo-conservatism so opposed to the old conservative ideas of limited immigration? The British Labour party is not only full of Jews at every level but is heavily funded by Jews.

Why exactly are you pro-miscegnation? Is it one of these 'land of the free' things your government has told you? Or is it because racism is the mother of all evils so we must breed out every race in the world liberal lunacy? Maybe you are black or part black, don't tell me you are Jewish lol.

"No that would be the rule of law. Stop throwing around 'fascism' lol."

Cute. Rule of law based on facist ideals, then. I like how instead of trying to point out that it's not facist, you instead shrugged off as being "OK" because it's rule of law. I guess facism isn't really that big of a deal to you. Nothing wrong with that, it's just sad when you try to hide behind concepts of human decency and ideals of freedom. It's fine. You're forgiven because your genetic stock is that of an English surf and you don't understand anything but being ruled over.

"Segregation would be suitable, although not satisfactory to secure the survival of the races. Surely that would be 'co-exsistence'."

"Survival of the races" and "survival of the fittest" are not the same thing no matter how much you wish it to be so. There are white people who use these ideals as a selfish prop to do as they please on an individual level. That's why so many colonists impregnated black Africans (and East Indians and Amer-Indians). The survival of the white race is a dream that very few "superior" white men have ACTIVELY perscribed to for the pure reason of "saving the white race". I think you will find that game is usually played to control white people as a whole.  

"Why exactly are you pro-miscegnation? Is it one of these 'land of the free' things your government has told you? Or is it because racism is the mother of all evils so we must breed out every race in the world liberal lunacy?"

The only thing I'm "PRO" for is the ability for any individual regardless of whatever situation to do as their will bids them. My core principles are admittedly Ayn Randian in the sense that I'm not gonna put any effort or fuck myself over because you want me to belong to your "race". You want me to help and believe you because you are inherantly weak and wish to sheltered by stronger more intelligent white males...and it's just not gonna happen. You should be culled.

So, as you can see, it really doesn't matter if I'm white or black or chinese. I believe in the freedom for people to co-exist with each other. People have inter-mixed since before human history and that will never change unless you enforce it with facism. That's all it really boils down to in the end. If I'm going to let someone like you control me and dictate the way in which I should live. One more thing.....

"You actually believe this tripe? You are hopelessly 'progressive', suicidally progressive more like."

Not only to I believe it, history proves it. It isn't about ideas of "liberalism" or "progession". Ever read an American Military Manifesto? The Exportation of culture is as much as a military operation as the exportation of violence and defense. The strongest western empires adhered to this policy and this is why we have emerged as the strongest and the most influencial in modern times.

Cute. Rule of law based on facist ideals, then. I like how instead of trying to point out that it's not facist, you instead shrugged off as being "OK" because it's rule of law. I guess facism isn't really that big of a deal to you. Nothing wrong with that, it's just sad when you try to hide behind concepts of human decency and ideals of freedom. It's fine. You're forgiven because your genetic stock is that of an English surf and you don't understand anything but being ruled over.

Well it is not facism, and it would only force black people to do what they didn't want.

"Survival of the races" and "survival of the fittest" are not the same thing no matter how much you wish it to be so.

Never said they were.

The survival of the white race is a dream that very few "superior" white men have ACTIVELY perscribed to for the pure reason of "saving the white race". I think you will find that game is usually played to control white people as a whole. 

Wouldn't want those evil Euro facists intervening with your free all America way of life.

The only thing I'm "PRO" for is the ability for any individual regardless of whatever situation to do as their will bids them.

Oh lol. You Americans are so dumb. You wanna know the real reason Europeans think Americans are dumb? It is not because of your tv or anything. It is because you lot are so emotional about your country, not in the flag waving patriotic sense, but in the sense that your decisions about your government and country are just emotional. Over here in Europe Obama would never get elected, not because he is black, but because he is just an awful demogogue.

I believe in the freedom for people to co-exist with each other. People have inter-mixed since before human history and that will never change unless you enforce it with facism.

No they haven't, a tiny tiny bit in the past 200 years. There has been more miscegnation in the past month in western countries then there was in the 10,000 years before 1940. Is that annother little thing you in the 'land of the free' get told by your government? Oh lawd.

All this 'freedom' stuff is rubbish, you aren't free, you don't get to choose your life.
And the funniest thing is that you believe it without thinking about it, so much for freedom of thought.

Not only to I believe it, history proves it. It isn't about ideas of "liberalism" or "progession".

Is it fuck. Listen to yourself speak, 'how are you going to stop it' you're just annother loony progessivist mixed with some all american freedom emotional obbsesion.

Have you ever actually thought about freedom? You probably haven't.

Ever read an American Military Manifesto? The Exportation of culture is as much as a military operation as the exportation of violence and defense. The strongest western empires adhered to this policy and this is why we have emerged as the strongest and the most influencial in modern times.

The west is as strong as it is because of imperialism, and America is only as strong as it is because of slavery. And all anglophone countries are strong because of our shared roots and shared race.
'We' are the strongest? You mean Jamal the slang talking nigger, and sanchez the gang member? I thought you were all for individualism, and then you're the raving nationalist.


Why don't we get down to the real question, what is the point? Why let it happen? Freedom rhetoric aside. Why?

"Well it is not facism, and it would only force black people to do what they didn't want."

It would also force mexicans, whites, japanese, arabs, etc to participate in the beauacracy needed to carry this out. It's a moot point because nobody would agree to aid you in this.

"No they haven't, a tiny tiny bit in the past 200 years.

Intermixing has gone on long since before that. Our government actually doesn't tell us anything about this period. Science does.

All this 'freedom' stuff is rubbish, you aren't free, you don't get to choose your life. And the funniest thing is that you believe it without thinking about it, so much for freedom of thought.

The words of an englishman living in a police state. *You* aren't free. I, however, am.

Oh lol. You Americans are so dumb. You wanna know the real reason Europeans think Americans are dumb? It is not because of your tv or anything. It is because you lot are so emotional about your country, not in the flag waving patriotic sense, but in the sense that your decisions about your government and country are just emotional. Over here in Europe Obama would never get elected, not because he is black, but because he is just an awful demogogue.

Us (Intelligent) Americans don't care why you think we're so dumb. We just don't care about a nation of peasants who still worship their royality. You're a cultural non-factor to us. 2nd world. You suppose and assume so many things about us, that we know discussions with your irrational selves is futile.

In Europe, with people like you around, Obama would never be voted for precisely because he is black and a nation who has been intellectually under the thumb of the Church and Inbreeding Royales can not accurately guage the difference between an awesome demogogue or an awful one.

"Listen to yourself speak, 'how are you going to stop it' you're just annother loony progessivist mixed with some all american freedom emotional obbsesion."

It seems that way because the concept of rebellion or radical change is something that is purely alien to you. In your world, your government has their way and that's that. That's just not how things work here. People resist here. We have guns, we have capitalism, we have individualism. You guys have punk rock.

"Why don't we get down to the real question, what is the point? Why let it happen? Freedom rhetoric aside. Why?"

Simple. Because you think shit like this: "America is only as strong as it is because of slavery."

>>32
It would also force mexicans, whites, japanese, arabs, etc to participate in the beauacracy needed to carry this out. It's a moot point because nobody would agree to aid you in this.

You can't just say 'moot point' because it is very unlikely to happen.

Intermixing has gone on long since before that. Our government actually doesn't tell us anything about this period. Science does.

Lol you think you know more about this than loony racist me? I don't think you do. There has been no significant miscegnation in the past 1000 years in Britain, and before that it was anglo saxons with celts, whites with white.

The words of an englishman living in a police state. *You* aren't free. I, however, am.

The funny thing is, you are not. This little bit of government propaganda you're spouting shows you're not. Your strange amalgamation of post modern thought, commonly known as libfaggotry shows you're not free.

I bet you haven't even thought what 'freedom' actually is, you just let your tv tell you, that is not freedom.

In Europe, with people like you around, Obama would never be voted for precisely because he is black

Just like Britain wouldn't elect a woman? Already did.

Like it or not Europe is lightyears ahead of America culturally, America just has wealth and corporations, but even that isn't miles ahead of Europe.

It seems that way because the concept of rebellion or radical change is something that is purely alien to you. In your world, your government has their way and that's that. That's just not how things work here. People resist here. We have guns, we have capitalism, we have individualism. You guys have punk rock.

Lol you don't resist shit. Your government wanted a country of raceless serfs and you let them have thier way. If anything, in America corporations, hollywood, the media rule. You no longer have community, you no longer have the roots of community. One nation under the Jews lol.
I would laugh but we're ging exactly the same way.

America did only become as powerfull as it did, as quickly as it did beacuse of loads of cheap Labour.

And still, why support miscegnation? All you seem to want is the triumph of nature over man, his basest instincts over his rational judgement.

>>19-33
Niggers.

[quote]There has been no significant miscegnation in the past 1000 years in Britain, and before that it was anglo saxons with celts, whites with white.[/quote]

How racist you are or aren't has little to do with it. The current scientific data doesn't back your claims. Your statements are just baseless rhetoric.

[quote]The funny thing is, you are not. This little bit of government propaganda you're spouting shows you're not. Your strange amalgamation of post modern thought, commonly known as libfaggotry shows you're not free.[/quote]

Again, this is coming from someone who lives in a police state- a product of the worst of liberalism and conservativism rolled into one. Sorry, but I just can't take your mantra of "You are not free" very seriously from someone who's genetic stock is that of an underclass who have never fought for their own individual freedoms. Clearly you are projecting your current situation onto us. 

[quote]I bet you haven't even thought what 'freedom' actually is, you just let your tv tell you, that is not freedom.[/quote]

You'd lose that bet. Maybe you should start dealing with the fact that I may be more educated than you. Seeing as how our discourse has indicated that already.

[quote]Like it or not Europe is lightyears ahead of America culturally.[/quote]

If that's true, then why do you lack the confidence that comes from clean cut superiority? You guys acted very much as we do now when your Empire was in total control. Now that your insecure about your place in the world, you spend most of your time offering advice and criticism to a population that ignores you not out of ignorance, but out of apathy. You don't effect us. You Empire was ran by whites right up until the moment we excelled passed it.

[quote]You no longer have community, you no longer have the roots of community.[/quote]

See, I guess this is difference between you and I. I'm not so insecure about my position or my countries position in the world that I'd accuse others of "not having a community"- especially when I do live there. I mean, you say this and yet you're the one crying that the community that you have isn't pure-white enough for you tastes. The truth is, you just want everything to match your worldview despite the fact that reality will not accomidate.

[quote]America did only become as powerfull as it did, as quickly as it did beacuse of loads of cheap Labour.[/quote]

And the difference between Europe and America would be what in this regard?

[quote]And still, why support miscegnation? All you seem to want is the triumph of nature over man, his basest instincts over his rational judgement.[/quote]

It's not about support, so much as I don't give a shit about what other people do, as much as I care about my own individual desires. It's a waste of time to devote my energy to making sure other people shouldn't get married. It doesn't effect me. Why should we care as long as they participate in the system? 

Listen, I know you don't understand this because you and your Europeans know nothing but oppression and being oppressed, Ignorance and remaining that way. You talk about a sense of community because you long to be something bigger than yourself.

We are rational. We are logical. Our country is build on the backs of people that- at the core of it- find their current community to be lacking. It's just that you want us to return to what's "natural" for "the white race" and your views, when your views are not in my best interest. It's about you making yourself seem objective in a situation where all perspectives are inherantly subjective and the strongest ideals are the one that live on. Since, you're the one trying to make *me* believe anything anti-"white race" is wrong, where do you think you're placed in the overall picture?

I haven't paid any attention to all of the posts since post #11 because he is correct 100%. Nigger males shouldn't be allowed to have sex but the rest of all races and sexes can.

gee sure is stormfags around here

>>37
Cryfag

>>36

how are you gonna stop them though?

It's a free world, if women want to marry Tyrone or Ahmed, let them. They don't deserve government support when they get abused by their husbands though. I shouldn't pay for others stupid decisions.

EUGENICS

>>35
We are rational. We are logical. Our country is build on the backs of people that- at the core of it- find their current community to be lacking. It's just that you want us to return to what's "natural" for "the white race" and your views, when your views are not in my best interest. It's about you making yourself seem objective in a situation where all perspectives are inherantly subjective and the strongest ideals are the one that live on. Since, you're the one trying to make *me* believe anything anti-"white race" is wrong, where do you think you're placed in the overall picture?

Lol 'strongest lives on' lol america.

Mate your views ammount to 'it is happening, therefore let it happen' that is all they are. You're just avoiding making any sensible judgement.

You're the exactly the kind of wierd uneducated libfag that is ruining the west atm.

>>42

Think whatever you want. Anyone who doesn't conform to your worldview is automatically lacking "sensible judgement" or is a "libfag" or is "ruining the west". It's just excuse after excuse after excuse for not defending your position with more than: "Niggers are Niggers" or "Wake up White People!".

So there's really not much of a point is there? You really don't want to debate, you want compliance. If this is the sentiment you're carrying, I don't understand why you don't actually *do* something for your cause instead of trying to force your intellectual superiors in to doing the hardest work for you.

All of this is just a "Zero Sum" game you play so that you're free to keep your ideals, no matter how ignorant and childish they are. The world you want died along time ago. No white man, possessed of his own strengths and abilities as an individual would be stupid enough to lump himself in with you because of your own ability to accept and adapt to the world around you. The West is fine. It's always been ever changing and as a culture it's ability to adapt around failed empires and communism has been remarkable thus far. It's all a question of whether you realize your views are anti-west or not.

>>35
I would laugh at all the fallacies in that post and list them, but I'm just too lazy to.

n

>>35

While I believe that you have raised many valid points (especially against the bigot that is arguing with you) your irrational anti-European stance undermines your credibility greatly. You are basically dissmissing your opponent based upon the grounds that he is British and therefore of 'inferior surf stock' to you; yet ironically most Americans are themselves derived from these very Europeans who you claim "know nothing but oppression and being oppressed".
Your bizzare depictions of we Europeans as all invariably being inbred Royalists is nothing more than ignorant fantasy, for which you deserve to be mocked. You describe British (or maybe all Europeans?) as being "an underclass who have never fought for their own individual freedoms"; thus indicating your utter lack of knowledge of European history.

While you may like to consider yourself to be an educated individual, your discourse implies that you are not; as you are acting just as bigotted as the person you have been arguing with (whom I shall not waste my breath upon). In conclusion I would ask you all to please not judge people based upon their ancestors actions or their race.

P.S. I apologise if my English is not perfect (I'm German).

>>46
Note: http://www.amren.com

>>46

>>35 here. That was the point. What the fuck do I care about European, German or whatever. I was disregarding his argument on the same grounds as he would have done to me if I was black.

>>48
on the same grounds as he would have done to me if I was black.

What argument? You can't even defend your case, you don't even have a position on the matter so debate really isnt possible. All it ammounts to is 'It is happening, therefore we should let it happen. People should have the right to choose their partners'
Not to mention the laughable and horrible half liberal half nationalist attitude you have.

You just keep taking your corporate media medicine like a good liberal, leave the thinking up to the adults.

There is no advantage for anyone in the current course we're going on, the politicians and private interest groups are just gagging for a cultureless raceless serf class to exploit, and you liberals give it to them with your over bearing sentimental attitude.

>>49

>>and you liberals give it to them with your over bearing sentimental attitude.

No, corporations give it to anyone that can afford their prices/are profitable.  By removing culpability, you remove the desire to protect the culture.  Now shut the fuck up and heat your kids dinner up in the microwave.

>>27

>Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism.
>Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed
>with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

Oh, my!
I think I've been there before...

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more_fun_with_the_libertoids/#c25727

Yep.

majorityrights... that site kicks arse.

>>52
Yeah I think Fred Scrooby = RedCream. They have the same kind of style.

>>53
LIES!

P.S.  Remember, Sep. 8th is the second annual RedCream Appreciation Day.

>>49
>>51

So let me get this straight, I'm "a liberal" because I think living a China-like society where the government dictates the sexual habits of others is the opposite of freedom and human rights?

Ok, here's the deal: You guys admit that you're gonna need extra-ordinary political power to enforce your ideas, admit that you're gonna have shoot and kill even those of your own race who don't conform to your ideals and I'll "own up" to be "a liberal" (whatever THAT is supposed to mean)

>>55
nigger

Interracial Marriage - y/n?
y

>>53

i lol'd

Moar liek Interfail Mirage, ammirite?

The irony about this is that everything that's said about Stormfags is rendered true in this thread. I mean, you'd probably get more people on board with your cause if you show that you're serious.

But the inability to admit that you're gonna have to take up arms against the rest of the world in this shows how cowardly these guys really are when you get down to it.

It's not "it's happening so let it happen" ...it's more like: "it's happening and to stop you're gonna need to kill, hurt, maim and generally use force on many people.

>>60
It's not "it's happening so let it happen" ...it's more like: "it's happening and to stop you're gonna need to kill, hurt, maim and generally use force on many people.


Are you fuck. Deporting a couple million people isn't shit compared to what goes on in the world year after year. And you wouldn't even need to do that, just make it taboo again, cut the non-whites out of society, they will leave.


The fucking irony here is that you cannot do or say one thing to justify it, I think your silence proves that I have the stronger case.

But the inability to admit that you're gonna have to take up arms against the rest of the world in this shows how cowardly these guys really are when you get down to it.

Lol? Ethnic wars go on all the time with little intervention, you think NATO is going to come rescue a few million immigrants from the middle of a frist world country? They aren't going to do shit.

You aren't a liberal you're just a fucking idiot with a lack of perspective. It is by no means impossible, seen as most people preffer to date there own race, we can shut the boarders anyday. You wouldn't even need to kill anyone, you might not have noticed libfag (no doubt you have never been outside your leafy little suburban exsistance) but not everyone is so bought into your little libfag dream land, that they're willing to fight and die for it. It wouldn't happen.

>>61

Seriously, what the fuck are you on about? "A couple million people"? Non-whites out number whites in most countries. If it was as easy as that, it would've been done already. The reality is that people of all races are going to resist you, social taboo or not. Besides, the "taboo" thing has already been tried or are you trying to believe that everything before the 1960's didn't happen?

"Lol? Ethnic wars go on all the time with little intervention, you think NATO is going to come rescue a few million immigrants from the middle of a frist world country? They aren't going to do shit.

Again with this "few million". Alot of the races you talk about have lived in these western countries for 2 or 3 generations (The UK included). They aren't "immigrants" and once again, these people aren't gonna just lower their heads and quiet leave. You have to be on some hardcore meth to think that.

"You aren't a liberal you're just a fucking idiot with a lack of perspective. It is by no means impossible, seen as most people preffer to date there own race, we can shut the boarders anyday."

Then shut the fucking borders, then. Don't talk about it. Make it fucking happen. And, LOL @ "lack of perspective". What would a delusional dumbfuck crying "libfag! libfag!" know aobut perspective? You're a fucking idiot if you think you can just close the borders and make over-reaching changes into the lives of billions of fucking people and have there not be any fucking blowback.

>>62

Seriously, what the fuck are you on about? "A couple million people"? Non-whites out number whites in most countries. If it was as easy as that, it would've been done already.



The reality is that people of all races are going to resist you, social taboo or not.

People are just like you mate, they do what the media tells them.

Besides, the "taboo" thing has already been tried or are you trying to believe that everything before the 1960's didn't happen?

Yeah and the white race was goign to hell back in the 60's right... America and Britian were flooded with non-white immigration then wern't they..

Again with this "few million". Alot of the races you talk about have lived in these western countries for 2 or 3 generations (The UK included). They aren't "immigrants" and once again, these people aren't gonna just lower their heads and quiet leave. You have to be on some hardcore meth to think that.

What are they going to do? They are the lowest socio-economic class, they have no guns, they are barely in government (almost 0 in top government). What are they going to do when state media denouces them and says they're being 're-settled'. Big woo, a couple of riots, that'd just give more justification to throw them out.

Then shut the fucking borders, then. Don't talk about it. Make it fucking happen.

I am not a politician and neither are you libfag.

And, LOL @ "lack of perspective". What would a delusional dumbfuck crying "libfag! libfag!" know aobut perspective? You're a fucking idiot if you think you can just close the borders and make over-reaching changes into the lives of billions of fucking people and have there not be any fucking blowback.

Nothing would change dramatically for people other than the immigrants. What is 6 million people spread out to there country of origin? That is nothing, a million indians go back to join a billion indians, 500k africans go back to africa, 30k Iranians go back to Iran or the middle east.

Anyway it wouldn't require mass deportation, you just give them incentive to leave and they will go. Nearly 2k blacks left Britian when Boris Jhonson got elected mayor of London.

You think they're all gonna get super libfag self righteous and rally round the poor rehtoric of the left? Are they fuck.

You still cannot justify why we should let it happen. It is a great shame for the western world, it is it's death.

Multiculturalism works in South Ossetia, amirite?

"People are just like you mate, they do what the media tells them."

I'm sorry but I don't understand what this means. In your scenario of an exodus of non-whites... who controls the media? You or "The Jews"? Also: Can you explain to me how any control of the media that gears towards enforcing ideals on people isn't some form of facism? Is it because "you're right"?

"Yeah and the white race was goign to hell back in the 60's right... America and Britian were flooded with non-white immigration then wern't they.."

Huh? Is that sarcasm or something? The "not marrying outside of your race" taboo is something that has been around for a long time. That's all I'm saying. This isn't some new radical idea that you're presenting.

What are they going to do? They are the lowest socio-economic class, they have no guns, they are barely in government (almost 0 in top government). What are they going to do when state media denouces them and says they're being 're-settled'. Big woo, a couple of riots, that'd just give more justification to throw them out.

"State media"? LOL.

"I am not a politician and neither are you libfag."

So?

"Nothing would change dramatically for people other than the immigrants. What is 6 million people spread out to there country of origin? That is nothing, a million indians go back to join a billion indians, 500k africans go back to africa, 30k Iranians go back to Iran or the middle east."

I think you need to check your numbers. Try to factor in all the companies that one way or another uses these segments of the population for profit. 

"You still cannot justify why we should let it happen. It is a great shame for the western world, it is it's death."

Why try to justify something that need no justification? It's my belief that people's reproductive organs are their own property and whatever law you pass, people are gonna do what ever they want. Whatever race they are, their cock or pussy doesn't belong to the state or the whims of others.

Your line of thinking is that if someone can't come up with a good reason to allow something that law or society should have no control over in the first place, then it's not facism and therefore it's not wrong. This kind of thinking doesn't represent the west.

>>65

[...] then it's not facism and therefore it's not wrong

LOL @ the paranoid jew who is obsessed with "faScism" but can't spell it rite!

FaSc-ism -> FaSces -> Bundle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

>>42

Mate your views ammount to 'it is happening, therefore let it happen' that is all they are

That's all they have!
Even the more brainy ones, like Robert Lindsay!
Interestingly enough, even that "argument" fails when, let's say, the Italians start deporting Gypsy scum. LOL.

It's happening = THEREFORE = It Must Be Good

That's progressivism of the most idiotic kind.
"Calendar Progressivism" I call it.

>>53

BUSTED!!!

http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/01/21/irish-joke-for-st-martin-luther-king-jr-day/

lolololololololol
LMAO

>>68
That is redcream's website? Not bad, if I do say so myself...

>>67

i don't get this. you people act like inter-racial relationships haven't already been attacked in the west. they have, it's just it really comes down to if you have the right to control people's reproductive organs. i mean is rape or child molestation on the same level as inter racial relationships, so ON THOSE GROUNDS it should be illegalized? or is this just some more unprovable bullshit that "harms society" like how prohibition or the current marijuana laws are?

>>67

Well, yeah. I mean, what exactly is so bad about it OUTSIDE of the usual stuff Stormfronters try to scare us about? The way I see it, everything "progressive" that we've done has led to overall peace. I mean, sure, the peace we have on earth isn't perfect...but I think considering our overall history, a history filled with racial, idealogical and cultural divides that we've over come, it isn't so bad. You'd have to be a fool to believe that trying to impose LAWS on people's freedoms, whatever they are, are gonna fly in this world. If you think that people won't kill to protect those freedom, you're mad. People these days kill for less.

>>70
>>71

The Plight of Mixed Race Adolescents
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/08/the_plight_of_m.php

 Roland G. Fryer, Jr, Lisa Kahn, Steven D. Levitt, Jörg L. Spenkuch, National Bureau of Economic Research, July 2008

NBER Working Paper No. 14192

Issued in July 2008

——Abstract——-

Over the past 40 years the fraction of mixed race black-white births has increased nearly nine-fold. There is little empirical evidence on how these children fare relative to their single-race counterparts. This paper describes basic facts about the plight of mixed race individuals during their adolescence and early adulthood. As one might expect, on a host of background and achievement characteristics, mixed race adolescents fall in between whites and blacks. When it comes to engaging in risky/anti-social adolescent behavior, however, mixed race adolescents are stark outliers compared to both blacks and whites. We argue that these behavioral patterns are most consistent with the “marginal man” hypothesis, which we formalize as a two-sector Roy model. Mixed race adolescents—not having a natural peer group—need to engage in more risky behaviors to be accepted. All other models we considered can explain neither why mixed race adolescents are outliers on risky behaviors nor why these behaviors are not strongly influenced by the racial composition at their school.

[...]

>>65
I'm sorry but I don't understand what this means. In your scenario of an exodus of non-whites... who controls the media? You or "The Jews"? Also: Can you explain to me how any control of the media that gears towards enforcing ideals on people isn't some form of facism? Is it because "you're right"?

Well the British governmnet still does controll the BBC, but just in less than obvious ways.

Huh? Is that sarcasm or something? The "not marrying outside of your race" taboo is something that has been around for a long time. That's all I'm saying. This isn't some new radical idea that you're presenting.

Exactly people will just be returning to the norm. It is hardly going to take a massive leap in logic to justify something which people have done since forever anyway. As soon as the media becomes less sympathetic towards minorities, multiculturalism ect things will go back to the way they were.

I think you need to check your numbers. Try to factor in all the companies that one way or another uses these segments of the population for profit.

Alot of them do, but they're just small time factory labour, shelf stackers. We aren't going to be gettign rid of members of banking familes or high up people.

Why try to justify something that need no justification?

Lol? Of course it needs justification. This is a concious consequence of our governments actions not somthing written in the book of fate. It could all stop tommorow.

You just avoid the question because you have no justification, or as usual the justification is so riddled with poor liberal 'logic' you don't want to say it.

It's my belief that people's reproductive organs are their own property and whatever law you pass, people are gonna do what ever they want. Whatever race they are, their cock or pussy doesn't belong to the state or the whims of others.

No one is saying they aren't, no one if forcing breeding.

But it is not a persons 'right' to live in a country, it is the decision of the government. And then all that needs to be done is that decision to be reversed.
No more coloureds in the country, no more miscegnation. Only a few million people would be effected, and then most of them would leave volentarily given the right incentives.

Lol Britain gives 500 million pounds worth of 'aid' to india each year. Stop aid, spend 2 billion on re settleing immigrants, we'd have made it back in 4 years of not giving them aid. This is by no means immpossible.

>>69
No.

Go marry outside your species.  NAO.

>>74
U first, nibber.

>>73
"Exactly people will just be returning to the norm. It is hardly going to take a massive leap in logic to justify something which people have done since forever anyway. As soon as the media becomes less sympathetic towards minorities, multiculturalism ect things will go back to the way they were."

And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

"Alot of them do, but they're just small time factory labour, shelf stackers. We aren't going to be gettign rid of members of banking familes or high up people."

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

"Of course it needs justification. This is a concious consequence of our governments actions not somthing written in the book of fate. It could all stop tommorow."

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

"You just avoid the question because you have no justification, or as usual the justification is so riddled with poor liberal 'logic' you don't want to say it."

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

[quote]But it is not a persons 'right' to live in a country, it is the decision of the government. And then all that needs to be done is that decision to be reversed.[/quote]

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

>>74
I'm against interspecies marriages, sorry redcream.

>>76
And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

They will. Nobody wanted the situation we have now, they just let it happen.

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

Lol. A couple million of the worst educated and poorest people wouldn't do any long term damage.

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

Wtf are you on about you imbecile. This is a matter of population and citizenship, nothing to do with your emotional nonsense and everything to do with government and immigration policy.

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

Who gives a fuck about 'western capitalism'? lol You're twisting in the wind now.

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

Tranlastion; I can't justify it, and can't argue against your points. I'll try to turn the debate into what I want because if I don't I will lose gg libfag.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

Then the government will get voted out, as they are going to be in Britain.

'growth of capitalism' lol. And you're trying to criticise my knowledge of economics. No country 'needs' immigrants unless it has a declining population, and that is a completely avoidable consequence. Cheaper housing, tax cuts for young families, so easy.

Get it out of your head the 'omgz tha corporations run da world' government has the monopoly on force.

>>76
And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

They will. Nobody wanted the situation we have now, they just let it happen.

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

Lol. A couple million of the worst educated and poorest people wouldn't do any long term damage.

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

Wtf are you on about you imbecile. This is a matter of population and citizenship, nothing to do with your emotional nonsense and everything to do with government and immigration policy.

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

Who gives a fuck about 'western capitalism'? lol You're twisting in the wind now.

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

Tranlastion; I can't justify it, and can't argue against your points. I'll try to turn the debate into what I want because if I don't I will lose gg libfag.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

Then the government will get voted out, as they are going to be in Britain.

'growth of capitalism' lol. And you're trying to criticise my knowledge of economics. No country 'needs' immigrants unless it has a declining population, and that is a completely avoidable consequence. Cheaper housing, tax cuts for young families, so easy.

Get it out of your head the 'omgz tha corporations run da world' government has the monopoly on force.

>>79

First, how do you (some random english fuck on the internet) know what people want or wanted? Also, if you think that millions of people who buy sell and work for western capitalist economy won't have any effect whatsoever, then you do not understand captialism. It's that simple. If you don't care about capitalism then SAY it. I however, DO CARE. And so do a lot of people more powerful than you.

Secondly, your crying about inter-racial relationships could be placed under "Emotional Nonsense" just as easily as the shit you oppose.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

But I am conservative. I'm just not a racist.

>>80

But I am conservative. I'm just not a racist.

Then you're a jew-con, like Dennis Prager:
http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2008/07/15/prager-another-lying-jewish-conservative/

More interracial News:
http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/category/interracial-marriage/

Read them all and wheep.
That's the stuff these jew-cons have in store for us.

Jew-conned!
We have been Jewed.

But this is all crap, I mean, you both know shit, so go get a life, and leave us alone...Thx

>>80

Secondly, your crying about inter-racial relationships could be placed under "Emotional Nonsense"

“Monsieur Orelle, without jumping to conclusions as to their final destination, may I ask if the government has any plans to ease the plight of these poor, suffering souls? It’s reaching a point where we can’t sit idly by …”

The speaker was one Ben Suad, alias Clément Dio, one of the monster’s most faithful minions, concoctor in chief of the poisonous slops poured piping hot each Monday into the feeble, comatose brains of the six hundred thousand readers of his weekly rag, served up in its fancy sauces. Citizen of France, North African by blood, with an elegant crop of kinky hair and swarthy skin—doubtless passed down from a certain black harem slavegirl, sold to a brothel for French officers in Rabat (as he learned from the bill of sale in his family papers)—married to a Eurasian woman officially declared Chinese and author of several best-selling novels, Dio possessed a belligerent intellect that thrived on springs of racial hatred barely below the surface, and far more intense than anyone imagined. Like a spider deep in the midst of French public opinion, he had webbed it over so thick with fine gossamer strands that it scarcely clung to life. A cordial type all the same, given to great informative bursts if he chose, though always one-way, sincere enough to put his convictions on the line and draw the occasional fire of intelligent colleagues—of whom there were fewer and fewer, alas!, and whom people had all long since stopped reading. In those topsy-turvy days the Left sprawled out in abundance, while the rightist press, in a hopeless muddle, languished alone in its trenches, deserted. The home front, meanwhile, true to form, fraternized high and low, unabashed and unrestrained. Politically, Dio’s columns were something of a hash, whipped up with a proper dose of utopian pap. But most dangerous of all was his very special talent—unrivaled, in fact—for planting his mines through the waters of current French life, far and wide, just surface-deep, always finding those areas still intact, and larding them through with the deadly devices, spewed mass-produced from his prolific brain. Jean Orelle, we should note, was one of his most devout readers, never missing the weekly pause in the journey along his ageing imagination, and confiding to his intimates, with a chuckle, that “this Dio chap” reminded him so of the fearless reformer he himself used to be, “Lots of nerve! Plenty of new ideas! And a real, burning passion for the everyday man, the citizen of the world!” Yes, this Dio chap’s citizen of the world, in all his glory! Ah, what a dismal, repulsive creature! The journalist’s pen gave him many a size and shape, but one thing never changed: his contempt for tradition, his scorn for Western Man per Se, and above all the patriotic Frenchman. Like a kind of anti-Joan of Arc, charged by King Dio with a thousandfold mission. To wit, to crush with the weight of shame and remorse the common, foot-slogging soldier of the Western World, lord of its ancient battles, deserted by all his generals to a man, but a powerful force all the same. In column after column, the anti-Joan became, by turns, an Arab workman, snubbed and insulted; a publisher of smut, hauled into court; a black bricklayer, exploited by his boss; a theater director with a censored play; a young Madonna from some leftist slum; a rioter, beaten for ripping up the streets; a café tough, shot in his tracks; a student terrorist; a schoolgirl on the pill; the head of a people’s culture center, summarily fired; a marijuana prophet; a rebel leader dispensing guerrilla justice; a married priest; an adolescent lecher; an incestuous author; a guru of pop; a female dead from an overdose of love; a pummeled Egyptian, a poisoned Greek, a Spaniard, gunned down; a reporter, attacked and beaten; a protester crapping on the Unknown Soldier; a hunger striker, soft in the head; a Vietnam deserter; a big-chief thug from the wrong side of town; a faggot with a medical excuse; a sadistic schoolboy tormenting his teacher; a rapist, mind twisted by racks of hard-core porn; a kidnapper, sure of his righteous cause; an incurable delinquent, victim of his genes or society’s pressures; an abortionist butcher, screaming for his human rights; a Brazilian backwoods wench, sold into São Paulo salons; an Indian dying from a tourist’s measles; a murderer calling for prison reform; a bishop spouting Marx in his pastoral letters; a car thief, mad for speed; a bank thief, mad for publicity’s easy life; a maidenhead thief, mad for free and easy sex; a Bengali dead of starvation … And so many more. So many crusading heroes, skilllully chosen to please and persuade. Which they usually did. And why not? When the heart gives way, it’s a Turkish bazaar. Freedom is all or nothing. With the likes of this would-be heartrending rabble, these pseudopathetic peons beating his battering rams against the gates, Dio knew that, in time, he was sure to smash them down. When freedom expands to mean freedom of instinct and social destruction, then freedom is dead. And all the slimy Dio-larvae teem on its corpse, ready to burst into great black moths, heralding angels of the antiworld.

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To appreciate the scope of Dio’s power, we could look to a hundred examples. One will suffice: the Saint-Favier swimming-pool scandal. Saint-Favier is a dull, sleepy town stuck away in the Jura, that decided one day to indulge its wild fancy and present itself with a gift sure to rouse an industrious populace lulled by the pipemaker’s lathes. Namely, a swimming pool. Olympic, Hiltonesque, covered in the winter, basking in mountain sun in the summer, a billionaire’s pool on a communal scale, a fabulous toy for the people, democratic to a fault, and always jam-packed (God knows how those French love the water!) … Well, it just so happened that, in one of the weekly analyses required by law, a lab technician discovered a troop of bacteria—gonococci, to be precise—living on a corner of the metal plate marked “Saint-Favier Municipal Swimming Pool,” happy as could be with their new surroundings, and, in a word, thriving. So well, in fact, that the hospital, much to the doctors’ disbelief and indignation, found itself treating three youngsters with ophthalmic gonorrhea: two girls and a boy—not even related—and one of whom, it should be noted, was a pupil with the Sisters of Perpetual Help. Now, in France, no schooltot does anything much with her eyes but open them wide, agog at the wonders of the world. There had to be an explanation. And it soon came to light in the files of the hospital, the national health plan, and the factory infirmary, where the records showed that a thousand Arabs—first-rate workers notwithstanding, and socially accepted if not socially absorbed—had been showing up time after time, to the tune of some ten percent, with the aftermaths of a stubborn case of North African clap. To be utterly fair and unbiased, the authorities proceeded to check through the files of all the Jura natives too. A time-consuming task, but one which the West, personified there in Saint-Favier, felt obliged to perform in the worthy effort to subdue its prejudices. The result, unhappily, merely confirmed them. They turned up a total of two rich young brats, both terribly spoiled, who wouldn’t have dreamed of using the public pooi, and one dirty old derelict, who never bathed and didn’t know how to swim. What a blow for the poor town fathers! Such fine folk, too, these laborers, pensioners, railroaders, politicized peasants, placing their leftist ballots in the box, like Eucharists laid on the communion plate, and scratching their chins, deep in thought … One of them, a delegate from the Communist trade-union party, in a highly emotional search through his papers, brought out a mimeographed document proving that the Arabs were essential to the economic well-being of the nation, and that the sudden resurgence of racism had to be nipped in the bud. Of course, they all agreed. The point was well taken. They were all for the worldwide solidarity of the masses. But still! If their kids’ eyes were going to catch the clap, after all—and in their nice new pool, to boot, that they scrimped their pennies together to pay for—and a dose like you wouldn’t pick up from some army-camp whore, well, Arabs or not, they couldn’t just let the thing get out of hand, and besides, doesn’t everyone know it’s an Arab disease? … The fine folk believed it was only common sense to vote as they did, and to reach their unanimous decision: namely, that thereafter the only Arabs to use the municipal swimming pool at Saint-Favier would be those with a medical certificate proving that they had no contagious diseases that might be spread by water. The decree was posted at the entrance to the pool, and in all the Arab cafés and haunts in town. It was, in fact, rather clumsily worded. But that’s hardly a surprise. In times when a spade has ceased to be called a spade, it’s no wonder that thirty-two town fathers—each one a family man, but none with an excess of schooling—should let themselves be trapped by the subtleties of language. … Dio rubbed his hands with glee, and proceeded to use the Saint-Favier edict as his cover of the week, spread over the newsstands in all its glory (by ultracapitalist distributors, no less), with a big title splashed across, proclaiming: “Anti-Arab Racism Alive and Well!” Six hundred thousand copies. Rather hard to miss! … In Paris, His Excellency the Algerian ambassador demanded an audience and got it on the spot. The North African press let loose volleys of hate, and the French press picked up the tune, albeit in a minor key. Somewhere there was even the observation that plenty of Frenchwomen jumped into bed with those poor, slandered Arabs, without once insisting to see their bill of health. … Retaliation took many forms. Oil, for example, was an issue again, as three tankers returned bone dry. And a hundred nice French girls, teaching school in Algeria, were suddenly hauled into the hospital and spread on the stirrups to be plumbed and explored by a squad of medical student commandos, whipped up to a frenzy. Two of them died as a result, but the inquest didn’t last. On his minister’s orders, the prefect of the Jura quickly reversed the Saint-Favier decree, first for certain technical flaws, and also for its breach of human rights. Dio was exultant, crowing his triumph in one of his best editorials. Because, when all was said and done, he was right. And any time that man was right—which he often was, since he chose his pretexts with diabolical skill—the walls of the ancient citadel were sure to crumble. So the Arabs of Saint-Favier returned en masse to the pool, victorious. And they had it all to themselves. No townsfolk were seen there again. There wasn’t even talk about building another one, separate from the first. What would be the sense? … And all at once whole sections of New York are deserted, a score of American cities watch the flight to the suburbs—and half the historic Paris pavement too—American tots in their integrated schools fall five years behind, tubercular Gauls flee in droves from our open-air clinics. … Tally-ho! Tally-ho! Just listen to that battering ram smash at the southern gate!

Jean Raspail - Camp Of The Saints

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>>84
tl;dr

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Camp_des_saints

I dont think anyone would care if the % were different. Close to 75% of all interracial relationships have a black man with a white,asian or latin woman.

posting in a troll-ridden internet argument.

>>80
First, how do you (some random english fuck on the internet) know what people want or wanted? Also, if you think that millions of people who buy sell and work for western capitalist economy won't have any effect whatsoever, then you do not understand captialism. It's that simple. If you don't care about capitalism then SAY it. I however, DO CARE. And so do a lot of people more powerful than you.

I know about economics and capitalism. Historically when has capitalism 'fought back' when the government has come for it? Never. Government has the monopoly on force.

Secondly, your crying about inter-racial relationships could be placed under "Emotional Nonsense" just as easily as the shit you oppose.

I suppose, but mine makes sense.

But I am conservative. I'm just not a racist.

I think you mean neo-conservative, who aren't real conservatives at all in my opinion. Also enjoy your Jew party.

Darwin was a eugenicist? Well hoodarn.

This is still a fail hard discussion because all the white nationals do just run their mouth and anyone who doesn't agree is a jew, a nigger or a race traitor. You can't build any type of movement or argument on such cowardly bullshit. And if their science is found faulty then it's a conspiracy. It's ALWAYS a conspiracy. LOL.

Listen: Unless you're willing to PAY or USE FORCE to get people out of their homes, to abandon their families or to control their sexual organs then you're just talking shit. You fail. You're useless and enjoy your unhappiness and AIDS.

>>91
anyone who doesn't agree is a jew, a nigger or a race traitor
Pretty much, which one are you?

>>92

I'm the one that ejaculates on your mother's asshole.

>>93
A nigger. I see.

>>94

So that explains your anger. A black dude is railin' your mom. Well, don't get too mad about it. If you get him drunk enough I'm sure he'll let you clean his dick after, faggot.

>>95
He's troll'n and hate'n, try to get you raging early... sage.

>>96

>>93 and >>95 shows us that the proper way to deal with bigots is to troll them back but in a more hilarious fashion

This is one interesting thread. Don't stop debating now guys, keep at it

>>97
Sounded more like crying to me.

100

>>99
no this is VIPPER quality trollans

>>3
That makes no fucking sense

how does the IQ of people you dont know affect your childs?

The more people inter-racially date, the sooner we reach a homogenization of race which will put an end to the pox of racism

>>103
Fuck no, that is genocide, sage.