I found this gem by Darwin of all people:

"Both sexes ought to refrain from marriage if they are in any marked degree inferior in body or mind"

>>15

People have been interbreeding for a very long time. Like since before Africa was colonized. You do know that, right?

>>16

Just because you repeat your statment and throw a capitalzed "ARE" in there doesn't make you less retarded. What you don't know makes you look stupid.

William A. Massey is the Edwin S. Wiley Professor of Operations Research and Financial Engineering at Princeton University. A native of Jefferson City, Missouri, Massey is a graduate of Princeton University and holds a Ph.D. in mathematics from Stanford University. For more than 20 years Professor Massey was a top engineer at Bell Laboratories before coming to Princeton in 2001. Dr. Massey has published more than 50 academic papers on applied probability analysis. He was cited 59 times in academic journals in 2004.

• Emery N. Brown, a mathematical biologist, is director of the Neuroscience Statistics Research Laboratory at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. He also serves as an associate professor of anaesthesia at Harvard Medical School. His research is in the area of neural information coding, which uses mathematical techniques to decipher how neurons receive and transmit information.

Dr. Brown is a Harvard man to the core. He is a 1978 magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College. He holds a master's and Ph.D. in statistics from Harvard and is also a graduate of the Harvard Medical School. Dr. Brown is widely published in academic journals. He was cited 45 times by his peers in 2004, placing him third in the JBHE rankings.

• Richard L. Baker is a professor of mathematics at the University of Iowa in Iowa City. His research interests are in operator algebras, particularly in non-selfadjoint operator algebras. He is also interested in quantum field theory and distributive artificial intelligence. He holds a Ph.D. in mathematics from the University of California at Berkeley and has published more than a dozen scholarly articles. His 37 citations in 2004 place him fourth in the JBHE rankings.

• In fifth place in JBHE's rankings of the most highly cited black mathematicians is Professor Carl Prather of Virginia Tech. A graduate of Trinity College, Professor Prather holds a master's degree and a Ph.D. from Northwestern University. He has published more than 20 scholarly papers in academic journals on subjects such as complex analysis and operator theory.

• David Blackwell, the professor emeritus of statistics at the University of California at Berkeley, is perhaps the most highly cited and well-known black mathematician of all time. By the age of 22 he had earned bachelor's, master's and Ph.D. degrees from the University of Illinois. In 1941 he was the seventh African American to ever hold a Ph.D. in mathematics. At one time Professor Blackwell was the only African-American member of the National Academy of Sciences.

Anyway, you miss my point. You talk about "justification" for people breeding in "your clean genepool". But that's all it is. TALK. How are you gonna make sure people don't interbreed? What are you gonna do to stop it? Do you really think you can? Do you think by virtue of being white that you alone should be worthy of breeding rights? Are you that much of virgin? Are you going to answer any of this questions? Of course not. You're just a stormfront faggot who sniffs little kid's bike seat.

Ya Peace of shit. :)

>>12
The would more likely create a social darwinist class system with the most intelligent as leaders, generals, economists and scientists, those of moderate intelligence as the engineers, officers, clerks etc.. and an underclass of labourers and soldiers.

>>19

I know there are black mathematicians. But how many could you name without going to 'blackscientists.com'? How many are pioneers in thier fields? Maybe give me 100 examples and then you might have something. After all we are talking about averages here aren't we.
Answer me this, have you met any very smart black people? How many?

Jews have something like 5 times the expected ammount of scientific discovery compared to scientists of other races, you're telling me this is coincidence? Add to that the fact that Jews have been on the recieving end of racism in Europe and America as well. Look at the list of richest people in the world, it's like reading a list of invitations to a bah mitzvah, even though there are somthing like 13 million jews in the world. I don't think these are conincidenced tbh.

If you go into it there are differences in intellignce between races, the only question is around how intelligence should be quantified.

>Anyway, you miss my point. You talk about "justification" for people breeding in "your clean genepool". But that's all it is. TALK. How are you gonna make sure people don't interbreed? What are you gonna do to stop it?

Kick all the negros out, how do you think? That is the only way really.

I'm not so nihilistic as to submit in the face of only presumed inevitability. Not that it is an inevitability at all. How are the Japanese going stop breeding into the African population? By not bringing them over.

>>21

All I did was enter the phrase "black mathematicians" in google. Whether or not they're "pioneers" is a non-point. You said they didn't even exist! At any rate, they have creditentials that you and I clearly aren't able of getting ourselves.

"If you go into it there are differences in intellignce between races, the only question is around how intelligence should be quantified."

You said it, buddy. People must smarter than us have already "gone into it". This is why the scientific community generally takes exception to anyone who comes out and says that *any* group is "genetically inferior in intellect". Not only do we have questions as to how to quantify intelligence but we also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors.

"Kick all the negros out, how do you think? That is the only way really."

Yes. I gathered that. But *HOW*? Do you really think there's a government on the planet that allow anything of the sort? Do you really think every person that cries about blacks is gonna be willing to pick up a gun and force "a nigger" out of their home? Even you can admit and that *you* wouldn't do it. Are you prepare to offer the lives of your family up to those that will arm themselves and resist? Are you going to really attempt a facism that would deny another person the freedom of co-existence? This is what I don't understand. You say you hate blacks and niggers and non-whites, yet you aren't killing, you aren't educating yourself to enter public office, you aren't a part of a facist organization that has any power. You're just bawww'ing over the internet.

And don't even bring Japan into this, you little weeabo. You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese. If you want to live like that, you weeabo, then go there. We won't miss you.

>>20

Like in Vonnegut's Player Piano, right? *sigh* FAIL.

>>22
And don't even bring Japan into this, you little weeabo. You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese. If you want to live like that, you weeabo, then go there. We won't miss you.
Hahahahahhahah OH WOW.

>>22
All I did was enter the phrase "black mathematicians" in google. Whether or not they're "pioneers" is a non-point. You said they didn't even exist! At any rate, they have creditentials that you and I clearly aren't able of getting ourselves.

I didn't say they didn't exsist, I said I couldn't name any. As there are plenty of mathematicians from all aroudn the globe, except black countries. And funnily enough I am a mathematics student.

This is why the scientific community generally takes exception to anyone who comes out and says that *any* group is "genetically inferior in intellect".

Who doesn't? That is political correctness for you. I doubt they'd even be allowed by thier respective institutions to do the research even if they wanted.

Are you going to really attempt a facism that would deny another person the freedom of co-existence?

It doesn't really boil down to that does it. This is white seperatism. Not nazism. And freedom to co-exsist doesn't mean freedom to breed us and themselves out of exsistance.

But *HOW*?

First deport black criminals to Africa (lol that'd be most of em gone :D ) then compensated expatriation, then volentary expatriation, then forced but with thier assets, then forced with out assets.
Is Africa going to complain about literate black people comming over with skills and money? I don't think so, we might even be able to get them to compensate us for the wealth the black people would be taking with them.


I don't think this is a question about feasibility, anything is feasible if we want or need it enough.
But really who benefits from miscegnation? We loose our identiity, they lose thiers. All that is left is a pop cultured, homeless, historyless race which doesn't know where it came from or where it is going. Who benefits? No one does.

>>22
You've seen their crude culture of bland mimmickry. Western culture is just like that of Greek, Latin and Roman cultures of old that are able to thrive in a fully discovered world. To kick all our minorities and multinationals out, regardless of race, would reduce us to being like the Japanese and Chinese.

Just this one last thing. I don't think we'd fall into trite mimickary, that is precisely what I don't want. The presivation of authentic and valuable (beautiful?) culture is half the purpose of being anti-miscegnation.
Western culture IS dying, you know that, and multiculturalism is the cancer killing it. Like all countries were 'monocultured' borign places before 'diversity', were they fuck. Every section of the country and every class ect had its own culture, every institution even. Multiculturalism demands conformity if anything. I'm rambling.

"I didn't say they didn't exsist, I said I couldn't name any. As there are plenty of mathematicians from all aroudn the globe, except black countries. And funnily enough I am a mathematics student."

Right. And I'm a member of Skull and Bones. Listen, you said you couldn't name any as if that meant they didn't exist. So what if you can't name any? What difference does that fucking make? Mathematicians aren't rock stars, alot of people can't even name white ones without a google search. Your point is moot. Meaningless. Empty. Inane.

And I find it very convienant that you blame everything on "PC", but the moment some black person on TV says "Whitey". You're pulling up forums and calling people "Nigger". You're also very wrong, there is a lot of research in this field and it's not something that's hard to find funding for. It's the results themselves that have always been in question.

The "researchers" (I won't call them scientists) that set out to prove the "inferiority of negroids still are incapable of answering questions as to how to quantify intelligence but also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors. --- Funny you had trouble doing that in this very thread.

"It doesn't really boil down to that does it. This is white seperatism. Not nazism. And freedom to co-exsist doesn't mean freedom to breed us and themselves out of exsistance."

Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism. Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

I think you are a truly confused individual. It's not "white seperatism" when you offer other whites no choice but to do what you want. It's facism, pure and simple. Just be honest with yourself. Answer my questions: Do you really think there's a government on the planet that allow anything of the sort? Do you really think every person that cries about blacks is gonna be willing to pick up a gun and force "a nigger" out of their home? Even you can admit and that *you* wouldn't do it. Are you prepare to offer the lives of your family up to those that will arm themselves and resist?

...because people will resist this and there will be no way to stop it aside from facism.

"First deport black criminals to Africa (lol that'd be most of em gone :D ) then compensated expatriation, then volentary expatriation, then forced but with thier assets, then forced with out assets. Is Africa going to complain about literate black people comming over with skills and money? I don't think so, we might even be able to get them to compensate us for the wealth the black people would be taking with them.

Again, how would you do this? There's not very many people who would work for a government office that would do this. There are rich blacks who would use their money to resist this. By the way, the bond you think Africans and Black Americans share is pretty non-existant. Don't let Jesse Jackson or others fool you. Alot of blacks don't give a shit about African and alot of African's hate black Americans.


Just this one last thing. I don't think we'd fall into trite mimickary, that is precisely what I don't want. The presivation of authentic and valuable (beautiful?) culture is half the purpose of being anti-miscegnation.

Anti-miscegnation are the Japanese and the Chinese who spend most of their time emulating others to hilarious results and this is despite the serious efforts taken to keep foreigners out. Not that I even have anything against the Japanese, I think they're culture is theirs and in truth the Japanese too have been race-mixing for quite a bit, though admittedly not on the same scale as the west.

Western culture IS dying, you know that, and ulticulturalism is the cancer killing it. Like all countries were monocultured' borign places before 'diversity', were they fuck. Every section of the country and every class ect had its own culture, every institution even. Multiculturalism demands conformity if anything. I'm rambling.

I know you're rambling. I think you know what you're saying is bullshit. Historically speaking only small pockets of "Western Culture" have been isolationists. I'm sorry, but it's just the truth. Those responsible for spreading it have had a habit of intermingling with other races and cultures to a degree that the east can't nor have they had interest in and this has been apart of their problem.

Sure our Empires fall, but they're supposed to. Our ideals live on because we make sure they run through the under current of every society. Western wars have never just been about the exportation and aquisiition of power, but of culture as well. If you'd take a good look at what western culture is and was...you'd realize how silly your feelings of bigotry are.

The Frenchman Galois who died at age twenty did more for mathematics than all the blacks who have walked the earth. End of discussion on "black mathematicians".

>>27
So what if you can't name any? What difference does that fucking make? Mathematicians aren't rock stars, alot of people can't even name white ones without a google search. Your point is moot. Meaningless. Empty. Inane.

Well I am a mathematician and I can name loads off the top of my head, that is the point, for me anyway.

The "researchers" (I won't call them scientists) that set out to prove the "inferiority of negroids still are incapable of answering questions as to how to quantify intelligence but also have trouble qualifying intelligence in a purely objective context. Our IQ tests measure the nuture aspect of intelligence and that aspect itself is based on subjective factors. --- Funny you had trouble doing that in this very thread.

Cognitive science is still in relitively early stages, purhaps they will do it one day.

Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism.

No that would be the rule of law. Stop throwing around 'fascism' lol.

Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

Segregation would be suitable, although not satisfactory to secure the survival of the races. Surely that would be 'co-exsistence'.

I think you are a truly confused individual. It's not "white seperatism" when you offer other whites no choice but to do what you want.

Well it'd be more like 'co-oporate or go with em'.

But alternatly to that just a piece of land, anywhere would suffice. No bloodshed, no hatred, just a small country for white people. Although that is the last option imo, it is looking like the only reasonable one. And after all Jews have thiers.

Again, how would you do this?

Well it would need a good portion of whites to go along with it, and it'd need alot of apathy from the rest of em. This couldn't just be me and a few mates off stormfront. To get blacks out of America it would have to be a 1940's stye nazi revolution.

But don't get things twisted and think people are 'less racist' nowadays, under that horribly oppressive over socialisation that people go through nowadays there will all ways be a 'we and them' connplex. And in times of trouble that is all to easy to touch.

But now I'm talking as if America can be saved, it can't, half your white women are with negros anyway. The white race is dead in America, and so is America. Lol enjoy your union with mexico.
 
Our ideals live on because we make sure they run through the under current of every society.

You actually believe this tripe? You are hopelessly 'progressive', suicidally progressive more like.

Multiculturalism isn't really western culture, it is from frankfurt school jews, and that really is the thing killing us. And the Jewish immigration policy, you think I'm a crack pot? This is all some tin foil hat nonsense? Fucking go check it out mate. Why is neo-conservatism so opposed to the old conservative ideas of limited immigration? The British Labour party is not only full of Jews at every level but is heavily funded by Jews.

Why exactly are you pro-miscegnation? Is it one of these 'land of the free' things your government has told you? Or is it because racism is the mother of all evils so we must breed out every race in the world liberal lunacy? Maybe you are black or part black, don't tell me you are Jewish lol.

"No that would be the rule of law. Stop throwing around 'fascism' lol."

Cute. Rule of law based on facist ideals, then. I like how instead of trying to point out that it's not facist, you instead shrugged off as being "OK" because it's rule of law. I guess facism isn't really that big of a deal to you. Nothing wrong with that, it's just sad when you try to hide behind concepts of human decency and ideals of freedom. It's fine. You're forgiven because your genetic stock is that of an English surf and you don't understand anything but being ruled over.

"Segregation would be suitable, although not satisfactory to secure the survival of the races. Surely that would be 'co-exsistence'."

"Survival of the races" and "survival of the fittest" are not the same thing no matter how much you wish it to be so. There are white people who use these ideals as a selfish prop to do as they please on an individual level. That's why so many colonists impregnated black Africans (and East Indians and Amer-Indians). The survival of the white race is a dream that very few "superior" white men have ACTIVELY perscribed to for the pure reason of "saving the white race". I think you will find that game is usually played to control white people as a whole.  

"Why exactly are you pro-miscegnation? Is it one of these 'land of the free' things your government has told you? Or is it because racism is the mother of all evils so we must breed out every race in the world liberal lunacy?"

The only thing I'm "PRO" for is the ability for any individual regardless of whatever situation to do as their will bids them. My core principles are admittedly Ayn Randian in the sense that I'm not gonna put any effort or fuck myself over because you want me to belong to your "race". You want me to help and believe you because you are inherantly weak and wish to sheltered by stronger more intelligent white males...and it's just not gonna happen. You should be culled.

So, as you can see, it really doesn't matter if I'm white or black or chinese. I believe in the freedom for people to co-exist with each other. People have inter-mixed since before human history and that will never change unless you enforce it with facism. That's all it really boils down to in the end. If I'm going to let someone like you control me and dictate the way in which I should live. One more thing.....

"You actually believe this tripe? You are hopelessly 'progressive', suicidally progressive more like."

Not only to I believe it, history proves it. It isn't about ideas of "liberalism" or "progession". Ever read an American Military Manifesto? The Exportation of culture is as much as a military operation as the exportation of violence and defense. The strongest western empires adhered to this policy and this is why we have emerged as the strongest and the most influencial in modern times.

Cute. Rule of law based on facist ideals, then. I like how instead of trying to point out that it's not facist, you instead shrugged off as being "OK" because it's rule of law. I guess facism isn't really that big of a deal to you. Nothing wrong with that, it's just sad when you try to hide behind concepts of human decency and ideals of freedom. It's fine. You're forgiven because your genetic stock is that of an English surf and you don't understand anything but being ruled over.

Well it is not facism, and it would only force black people to do what they didn't want.

"Survival of the races" and "survival of the fittest" are not the same thing no matter how much you wish it to be so.

Never said they were.

The survival of the white race is a dream that very few "superior" white men have ACTIVELY perscribed to for the pure reason of "saving the white race". I think you will find that game is usually played to control white people as a whole. 

Wouldn't want those evil Euro facists intervening with your free all America way of life.

The only thing I'm "PRO" for is the ability for any individual regardless of whatever situation to do as their will bids them.

Oh lol. You Americans are so dumb. You wanna know the real reason Europeans think Americans are dumb? It is not because of your tv or anything. It is because you lot are so emotional about your country, not in the flag waving patriotic sense, but in the sense that your decisions about your government and country are just emotional. Over here in Europe Obama would never get elected, not because he is black, but because he is just an awful demogogue.

I believe in the freedom for people to co-exist with each other. People have inter-mixed since before human history and that will never change unless you enforce it with facism.

No they haven't, a tiny tiny bit in the past 200 years. There has been more miscegnation in the past month in western countries then there was in the 10,000 years before 1940. Is that annother little thing you in the 'land of the free' get told by your government? Oh lawd.

All this 'freedom' stuff is rubbish, you aren't free, you don't get to choose your life.
And the funniest thing is that you believe it without thinking about it, so much for freedom of thought.

Not only to I believe it, history proves it. It isn't about ideas of "liberalism" or "progession".

Is it fuck. Listen to yourself speak, 'how are you going to stop it' you're just annother loony progessivist mixed with some all american freedom emotional obbsesion.

Have you ever actually thought about freedom? You probably haven't.

Ever read an American Military Manifesto? The Exportation of culture is as much as a military operation as the exportation of violence and defense. The strongest western empires adhered to this policy and this is why we have emerged as the strongest and the most influencial in modern times.

The west is as strong as it is because of imperialism, and America is only as strong as it is because of slavery. And all anglophone countries are strong because of our shared roots and shared race.
'We' are the strongest? You mean Jamal the slang talking nigger, and sanchez the gang member? I thought you were all for individualism, and then you're the raving nationalist.


Why don't we get down to the real question, what is the point? Why let it happen? Freedom rhetoric aside. Why?

"Well it is not facism, and it would only force black people to do what they didn't want."

It would also force mexicans, whites, japanese, arabs, etc to participate in the beauacracy needed to carry this out. It's a moot point because nobody would agree to aid you in this.

"No they haven't, a tiny tiny bit in the past 200 years.

Intermixing has gone on long since before that. Our government actually doesn't tell us anything about this period. Science does.

All this 'freedom' stuff is rubbish, you aren't free, you don't get to choose your life. And the funniest thing is that you believe it without thinking about it, so much for freedom of thought.

The words of an englishman living in a police state. *You* aren't free. I, however, am.

Oh lol. You Americans are so dumb. You wanna know the real reason Europeans think Americans are dumb? It is not because of your tv or anything. It is because you lot are so emotional about your country, not in the flag waving patriotic sense, but in the sense that your decisions about your government and country are just emotional. Over here in Europe Obama would never get elected, not because he is black, but because he is just an awful demogogue.

Us (Intelligent) Americans don't care why you think we're so dumb. We just don't care about a nation of peasants who still worship their royality. You're a cultural non-factor to us. 2nd world. You suppose and assume so many things about us, that we know discussions with your irrational selves is futile.

In Europe, with people like you around, Obama would never be voted for precisely because he is black and a nation who has been intellectually under the thumb of the Church and Inbreeding Royales can not accurately guage the difference between an awesome demogogue or an awful one.

"Listen to yourself speak, 'how are you going to stop it' you're just annother loony progessivist mixed with some all american freedom emotional obbsesion."

It seems that way because the concept of rebellion or radical change is something that is purely alien to you. In your world, your government has their way and that's that. That's just not how things work here. People resist here. We have guns, we have capitalism, we have individualism. You guys have punk rock.

"Why don't we get down to the real question, what is the point? Why let it happen? Freedom rhetoric aside. Why?"

Simple. Because you think shit like this: "America is only as strong as it is because of slavery."

>>32
It would also force mexicans, whites, japanese, arabs, etc to participate in the beauacracy needed to carry this out. It's a moot point because nobody would agree to aid you in this.

You can't just say 'moot point' because it is very unlikely to happen.

Intermixing has gone on long since before that. Our government actually doesn't tell us anything about this period. Science does.

Lol you think you know more about this than loony racist me? I don't think you do. There has been no significant miscegnation in the past 1000 years in Britain, and before that it was anglo saxons with celts, whites with white.

The words of an englishman living in a police state. *You* aren't free. I, however, am.

The funny thing is, you are not. This little bit of government propaganda you're spouting shows you're not. Your strange amalgamation of post modern thought, commonly known as libfaggotry shows you're not free.

I bet you haven't even thought what 'freedom' actually is, you just let your tv tell you, that is not freedom.

In Europe, with people like you around, Obama would never be voted for precisely because he is black

Just like Britain wouldn't elect a woman? Already did.

Like it or not Europe is lightyears ahead of America culturally, America just has wealth and corporations, but even that isn't miles ahead of Europe.

It seems that way because the concept of rebellion or radical change is something that is purely alien to you. In your world, your government has their way and that's that. That's just not how things work here. People resist here. We have guns, we have capitalism, we have individualism. You guys have punk rock.

Lol you don't resist shit. Your government wanted a country of raceless serfs and you let them have thier way. If anything, in America corporations, hollywood, the media rule. You no longer have community, you no longer have the roots of community. One nation under the Jews lol.
I would laugh but we're ging exactly the same way.

America did only become as powerfull as it did, as quickly as it did beacuse of loads of cheap Labour.

And still, why support miscegnation? All you seem to want is the triumph of nature over man, his basest instincts over his rational judgement.