I found this gem by Darwin of all people:

"Both sexes ought to refrain from marriage if they are in any marked degree inferior in body or mind"

EUGENICS

>>35
We are rational. We are logical. Our country is build on the backs of people that- at the core of it- find their current community to be lacking. It's just that you want us to return to what's "natural" for "the white race" and your views, when your views are not in my best interest. It's about you making yourself seem objective in a situation where all perspectives are inherantly subjective and the strongest ideals are the one that live on. Since, you're the one trying to make *me* believe anything anti-"white race" is wrong, where do you think you're placed in the overall picture?

Lol 'strongest lives on' lol america.

Mate your views ammount to 'it is happening, therefore let it happen' that is all they are. You're just avoiding making any sensible judgement.

You're the exactly the kind of wierd uneducated libfag that is ruining the west atm.

>>42

Think whatever you want. Anyone who doesn't conform to your worldview is automatically lacking "sensible judgement" or is a "libfag" or is "ruining the west". It's just excuse after excuse after excuse for not defending your position with more than: "Niggers are Niggers" or "Wake up White People!".

So there's really not much of a point is there? You really don't want to debate, you want compliance. If this is the sentiment you're carrying, I don't understand why you don't actually *do* something for your cause instead of trying to force your intellectual superiors in to doing the hardest work for you.

All of this is just a "Zero Sum" game you play so that you're free to keep your ideals, no matter how ignorant and childish they are. The world you want died along time ago. No white man, possessed of his own strengths and abilities as an individual would be stupid enough to lump himself in with you because of your own ability to accept and adapt to the world around you. The West is fine. It's always been ever changing and as a culture it's ability to adapt around failed empires and communism has been remarkable thus far. It's all a question of whether you realize your views are anti-west or not.

>>35
I would laugh at all the fallacies in that post and list them, but I'm just too lazy to.

n

>>35

While I believe that you have raised many valid points (especially against the bigot that is arguing with you) your irrational anti-European stance undermines your credibility greatly. You are basically dissmissing your opponent based upon the grounds that he is British and therefore of 'inferior surf stock' to you; yet ironically most Americans are themselves derived from these very Europeans who you claim "know nothing but oppression and being oppressed".
Your bizzare depictions of we Europeans as all invariably being inbred Royalists is nothing more than ignorant fantasy, for which you deserve to be mocked. You describe British (or maybe all Europeans?) as being "an underclass who have never fought for their own individual freedoms"; thus indicating your utter lack of knowledge of European history.

While you may like to consider yourself to be an educated individual, your discourse implies that you are not; as you are acting just as bigotted as the person you have been arguing with (whom I shall not waste my breath upon). In conclusion I would ask you all to please not judge people based upon their ancestors actions or their race.

P.S. I apologise if my English is not perfect (I'm German).

>>46
Note: http://www.amren.com

>>46

>>35 here. That was the point. What the fuck do I care about European, German or whatever. I was disregarding his argument on the same grounds as he would have done to me if I was black.

>>48
on the same grounds as he would have done to me if I was black.

What argument? You can't even defend your case, you don't even have a position on the matter so debate really isnt possible. All it ammounts to is 'It is happening, therefore we should let it happen. People should have the right to choose their partners'
Not to mention the laughable and horrible half liberal half nationalist attitude you have.

You just keep taking your corporate media medicine like a good liberal, leave the thinking up to the adults.

There is no advantage for anyone in the current course we're going on, the politicians and private interest groups are just gagging for a cultureless raceless serf class to exploit, and you liberals give it to them with your over bearing sentimental attitude.

>>49

>>and you liberals give it to them with your over bearing sentimental attitude.

No, corporations give it to anyone that can afford their prices/are profitable.  By removing culpability, you remove the desire to protect the culture.  Now shut the fuck up and heat your kids dinner up in the microwave.

>>27

>Any attempt to control a population's behavior through force, is facism.
>Freedom to co-exist certianly DOES mean the freedom to breed
>with whomever one chooses, even if it means the non-existance of a race.

Oh, my!
I think I've been there before...

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/more_fun_with_the_libertoids/#c25727

Yep.

majorityrights... that site kicks arse.

>>52
Yeah I think Fred Scrooby = RedCream. They have the same kind of style.

>>53
LIES!

P.S.  Remember, Sep. 8th is the second annual RedCream Appreciation Day.

>>49
>>51

So let me get this straight, I'm "a liberal" because I think living a China-like society where the government dictates the sexual habits of others is the opposite of freedom and human rights?

Ok, here's the deal: You guys admit that you're gonna need extra-ordinary political power to enforce your ideas, admit that you're gonna have shoot and kill even those of your own race who don't conform to your ideals and I'll "own up" to be "a liberal" (whatever THAT is supposed to mean)

>>55
nigger

Interracial Marriage - y/n?
y

>>53

i lol'd

Moar liek Interfail Mirage, ammirite?

The irony about this is that everything that's said about Stormfags is rendered true in this thread. I mean, you'd probably get more people on board with your cause if you show that you're serious.

But the inability to admit that you're gonna have to take up arms against the rest of the world in this shows how cowardly these guys really are when you get down to it.

It's not "it's happening so let it happen" ...it's more like: "it's happening and to stop you're gonna need to kill, hurt, maim and generally use force on many people.

>>60
It's not "it's happening so let it happen" ...it's more like: "it's happening and to stop you're gonna need to kill, hurt, maim and generally use force on many people.


Are you fuck. Deporting a couple million people isn't shit compared to what goes on in the world year after year. And you wouldn't even need to do that, just make it taboo again, cut the non-whites out of society, they will leave.


The fucking irony here is that you cannot do or say one thing to justify it, I think your silence proves that I have the stronger case.

But the inability to admit that you're gonna have to take up arms against the rest of the world in this shows how cowardly these guys really are when you get down to it.

Lol? Ethnic wars go on all the time with little intervention, you think NATO is going to come rescue a few million immigrants from the middle of a frist world country? They aren't going to do shit.

You aren't a liberal you're just a fucking idiot with a lack of perspective. It is by no means impossible, seen as most people preffer to date there own race, we can shut the boarders anyday. You wouldn't even need to kill anyone, you might not have noticed libfag (no doubt you have never been outside your leafy little suburban exsistance) but not everyone is so bought into your little libfag dream land, that they're willing to fight and die for it. It wouldn't happen.

>>61

Seriously, what the fuck are you on about? "A couple million people"? Non-whites out number whites in most countries. If it was as easy as that, it would've been done already. The reality is that people of all races are going to resist you, social taboo or not. Besides, the "taboo" thing has already been tried or are you trying to believe that everything before the 1960's didn't happen?

"Lol? Ethnic wars go on all the time with little intervention, you think NATO is going to come rescue a few million immigrants from the middle of a frist world country? They aren't going to do shit.

Again with this "few million". Alot of the races you talk about have lived in these western countries for 2 or 3 generations (The UK included). They aren't "immigrants" and once again, these people aren't gonna just lower their heads and quiet leave. You have to be on some hardcore meth to think that.

"You aren't a liberal you're just a fucking idiot with a lack of perspective. It is by no means impossible, seen as most people preffer to date there own race, we can shut the boarders anyday."

Then shut the fucking borders, then. Don't talk about it. Make it fucking happen. And, LOL @ "lack of perspective". What would a delusional dumbfuck crying "libfag! libfag!" know aobut perspective? You're a fucking idiot if you think you can just close the borders and make over-reaching changes into the lives of billions of fucking people and have there not be any fucking blowback.

>>62

Seriously, what the fuck are you on about? "A couple million people"? Non-whites out number whites in most countries. If it was as easy as that, it would've been done already.



The reality is that people of all races are going to resist you, social taboo or not.

People are just like you mate, they do what the media tells them.

Besides, the "taboo" thing has already been tried or are you trying to believe that everything before the 1960's didn't happen?

Yeah and the white race was goign to hell back in the 60's right... America and Britian were flooded with non-white immigration then wern't they..

Again with this "few million". Alot of the races you talk about have lived in these western countries for 2 or 3 generations (The UK included). They aren't "immigrants" and once again, these people aren't gonna just lower their heads and quiet leave. You have to be on some hardcore meth to think that.

What are they going to do? They are the lowest socio-economic class, they have no guns, they are barely in government (almost 0 in top government). What are they going to do when state media denouces them and says they're being 're-settled'. Big woo, a couple of riots, that'd just give more justification to throw them out.

Then shut the fucking borders, then. Don't talk about it. Make it fucking happen.

I am not a politician and neither are you libfag.

And, LOL @ "lack of perspective". What would a delusional dumbfuck crying "libfag! libfag!" know aobut perspective? You're a fucking idiot if you think you can just close the borders and make over-reaching changes into the lives of billions of fucking people and have there not be any fucking blowback.

Nothing would change dramatically for people other than the immigrants. What is 6 million people spread out to there country of origin? That is nothing, a million indians go back to join a billion indians, 500k africans go back to africa, 30k Iranians go back to Iran or the middle east.

Anyway it wouldn't require mass deportation, you just give them incentive to leave and they will go. Nearly 2k blacks left Britian when Boris Jhonson got elected mayor of London.

You think they're all gonna get super libfag self righteous and rally round the poor rehtoric of the left? Are they fuck.

You still cannot justify why we should let it happen. It is a great shame for the western world, it is it's death.

Multiculturalism works in South Ossetia, amirite?

"People are just like you mate, they do what the media tells them."

I'm sorry but I don't understand what this means. In your scenario of an exodus of non-whites... who controls the media? You or "The Jews"? Also: Can you explain to me how any control of the media that gears towards enforcing ideals on people isn't some form of facism? Is it because "you're right"?

"Yeah and the white race was goign to hell back in the 60's right... America and Britian were flooded with non-white immigration then wern't they.."

Huh? Is that sarcasm or something? The "not marrying outside of your race" taboo is something that has been around for a long time. That's all I'm saying. This isn't some new radical idea that you're presenting.

What are they going to do? They are the lowest socio-economic class, they have no guns, they are barely in government (almost 0 in top government). What are they going to do when state media denouces them and says they're being 're-settled'. Big woo, a couple of riots, that'd just give more justification to throw them out.

"State media"? LOL.

"I am not a politician and neither are you libfag."

So?

"Nothing would change dramatically for people other than the immigrants. What is 6 million people spread out to there country of origin? That is nothing, a million indians go back to join a billion indians, 500k africans go back to africa, 30k Iranians go back to Iran or the middle east."

I think you need to check your numbers. Try to factor in all the companies that one way or another uses these segments of the population for profit. 

"You still cannot justify why we should let it happen. It is a great shame for the western world, it is it's death."

Why try to justify something that need no justification? It's my belief that people's reproductive organs are their own property and whatever law you pass, people are gonna do what ever they want. Whatever race they are, their cock or pussy doesn't belong to the state or the whims of others.

Your line of thinking is that if someone can't come up with a good reason to allow something that law or society should have no control over in the first place, then it's not facism and therefore it's not wrong. This kind of thinking doesn't represent the west.

>>65

[...] then it's not facism and therefore it's not wrong

LOL @ the paranoid jew who is obsessed with "faScism" but can't spell it rite!

FaSc-ism -> FaSces -> Bundle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

>>42

Mate your views ammount to 'it is happening, therefore let it happen' that is all they are

That's all they have!
Even the more brainy ones, like Robert Lindsay!
Interestingly enough, even that "argument" fails when, let's say, the Italians start deporting Gypsy scum. LOL.

It's happening = THEREFORE = It Must Be Good

That's progressivism of the most idiotic kind.
"Calendar Progressivism" I call it.

>>53

BUSTED!!!

http://www.thecivicplatform.com/2008/01/21/irish-joke-for-st-martin-luther-king-jr-day/

lolololololololol
LMAO

>>68
That is redcream's website? Not bad, if I do say so myself...

>>67

i don't get this. you people act like inter-racial relationships haven't already been attacked in the west. they have, it's just it really comes down to if you have the right to control people's reproductive organs. i mean is rape or child molestation on the same level as inter racial relationships, so ON THOSE GROUNDS it should be illegalized? or is this just some more unprovable bullshit that "harms society" like how prohibition or the current marijuana laws are?

>>67

Well, yeah. I mean, what exactly is so bad about it OUTSIDE of the usual stuff Stormfronters try to scare us about? The way I see it, everything "progressive" that we've done has led to overall peace. I mean, sure, the peace we have on earth isn't perfect...but I think considering our overall history, a history filled with racial, idealogical and cultural divides that we've over come, it isn't so bad. You'd have to be a fool to believe that trying to impose LAWS on people's freedoms, whatever they are, are gonna fly in this world. If you think that people won't kill to protect those freedom, you're mad. People these days kill for less.

>>70
>>71

The Plight of Mixed Race Adolescents
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/08/the_plight_of_m.php

 Roland G. Fryer, Jr, Lisa Kahn, Steven D. Levitt, Jörg L. Spenkuch, National Bureau of Economic Research, July 2008

NBER Working Paper No. 14192

Issued in July 2008

——Abstract——-

Over the past 40 years the fraction of mixed race black-white births has increased nearly nine-fold. There is little empirical evidence on how these children fare relative to their single-race counterparts. This paper describes basic facts about the plight of mixed race individuals during their adolescence and early adulthood. As one might expect, on a host of background and achievement characteristics, mixed race adolescents fall in between whites and blacks. When it comes to engaging in risky/anti-social adolescent behavior, however, mixed race adolescents are stark outliers compared to both blacks and whites. We argue that these behavioral patterns are most consistent with the “marginal man” hypothesis, which we formalize as a two-sector Roy model. Mixed race adolescents—not having a natural peer group—need to engage in more risky behaviors to be accepted. All other models we considered can explain neither why mixed race adolescents are outliers on risky behaviors nor why these behaviors are not strongly influenced by the racial composition at their school.

[...]

>>65
I'm sorry but I don't understand what this means. In your scenario of an exodus of non-whites... who controls the media? You or "The Jews"? Also: Can you explain to me how any control of the media that gears towards enforcing ideals on people isn't some form of facism? Is it because "you're right"?

Well the British governmnet still does controll the BBC, but just in less than obvious ways.

Huh? Is that sarcasm or something? The "not marrying outside of your race" taboo is something that has been around for a long time. That's all I'm saying. This isn't some new radical idea that you're presenting.

Exactly people will just be returning to the norm. It is hardly going to take a massive leap in logic to justify something which people have done since forever anyway. As soon as the media becomes less sympathetic towards minorities, multiculturalism ect things will go back to the way they were.

I think you need to check your numbers. Try to factor in all the companies that one way or another uses these segments of the population for profit.

Alot of them do, but they're just small time factory labour, shelf stackers. We aren't going to be gettign rid of members of banking familes or high up people.

Why try to justify something that need no justification?

Lol? Of course it needs justification. This is a concious consequence of our governments actions not somthing written in the book of fate. It could all stop tommorow.

You just avoid the question because you have no justification, or as usual the justification is so riddled with poor liberal 'logic' you don't want to say it.

It's my belief that people's reproductive organs are their own property and whatever law you pass, people are gonna do what ever they want. Whatever race they are, their cock or pussy doesn't belong to the state or the whims of others.

No one is saying they aren't, no one if forcing breeding.

But it is not a persons 'right' to live in a country, it is the decision of the government. And then all that needs to be done is that decision to be reversed.
No more coloureds in the country, no more miscegnation. Only a few million people would be effected, and then most of them would leave volentarily given the right incentives.

Lol Britain gives 500 million pounds worth of 'aid' to india each year. Stop aid, spend 2 billion on re settleing immigrants, we'd have made it back in 4 years of not giving them aid. This is by no means immpossible.

>>69
No.

Go marry outside your species.  NAO.

>>74
U first, nibber.

>>73
"Exactly people will just be returning to the norm. It is hardly going to take a massive leap in logic to justify something which people have done since forever anyway. As soon as the media becomes less sympathetic towards minorities, multiculturalism ect things will go back to the way they were."

And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

"Alot of them do, but they're just small time factory labour, shelf stackers. We aren't going to be gettign rid of members of banking familes or high up people."

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

"Of course it needs justification. This is a concious consequence of our governments actions not somthing written in the book of fate. It could all stop tommorow."

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

"You just avoid the question because you have no justification, or as usual the justification is so riddled with poor liberal 'logic' you don't want to say it."

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

[quote]But it is not a persons 'right' to live in a country, it is the decision of the government. And then all that needs to be done is that decision to be reversed.[/quote]

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

>>74
I'm against interspecies marriages, sorry redcream.

>>76
And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

They will. Nobody wanted the situation we have now, they just let it happen.

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

Lol. A couple million of the worst educated and poorest people wouldn't do any long term damage.

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

Wtf are you on about you imbecile. This is a matter of population and citizenship, nothing to do with your emotional nonsense and everything to do with government and immigration policy.

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

Who gives a fuck about 'western capitalism'? lol You're twisting in the wind now.

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

Tranlastion; I can't justify it, and can't argue against your points. I'll try to turn the debate into what I want because if I don't I will lose gg libfag.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

Then the government will get voted out, as they are going to be in Britain.

'growth of capitalism' lol. And you're trying to criticise my knowledge of economics. No country 'needs' immigrants unless it has a declining population, and that is a completely avoidable consequence. Cheaper housing, tax cuts for young families, so easy.

Get it out of your head the 'omgz tha corporations run da world' government has the monopoly on force.

>>76
And this is my point. What if people, no matter what you say or how much you whine, genuinely don't want to "go back to the way things were."?

They will. Nobody wanted the situation we have now, they just let it happen.

LOL what? Do you even understand how capitalism works?

Lol. A couple million of the worst educated and poorest people wouldn't do any long term damage.

Why? Why does it need justification? You don't believe that some people fall in love or even that people have a mind of their own?

Wtf are you on about you imbecile. This is a matter of population and citizenship, nothing to do with your emotional nonsense and everything to do with government and immigration policy.

If that were true (about me being liberal) this argument would've been over a long time ago. I'm looking for how your argument benefits the growth of western capitalism. So far the best you've given me is "becuz yer a liberal m8".

Who gives a fuck about 'western capitalism'? lol You're twisting in the wind now.

And see, the thing is, I don't need to justify something if I have all the power and if I'm in full control. You're the one that wants the power to eject whole segments of the population based upon the loose idea of "things being better". This isn't about justification. This is about your ideal and how you're gonna convince people to go along with it.

Tranlastion; I can't justify it, and can't argue against your points. I'll try to turn the debate into what I want because if I don't I will lose gg libfag.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

It has never dawned on you that the growth of capitalism may require immigrants? What the government and the people simply don't want the decision to be reversed? What if the government does it but a vast majority of the people DON'T? What then? You still haven't told me what would happen....it's probably because you know that you'll look like exactly what you are: a coward and a faggot AND a tool

Then the government will get voted out, as they are going to be in Britain.

'growth of capitalism' lol. And you're trying to criticise my knowledge of economics. No country 'needs' immigrants unless it has a declining population, and that is a completely avoidable consequence. Cheaper housing, tax cuts for young families, so easy.

Get it out of your head the 'omgz tha corporations run da world' government has the monopoly on force.

>>79

First, how do you (some random english fuck on the internet) know what people want or wanted? Also, if you think that millions of people who buy sell and work for western capitalist economy won't have any effect whatsoever, then you do not understand captialism. It's that simple. If you don't care about capitalism then SAY it. I however, DO CARE. And so do a lot of people more powerful than you.

Secondly, your crying about inter-racial relationships could be placed under "Emotional Nonsense" just as easily as the shit you oppose.

Listen, you aren't in control, you don't have any power lol. If anything you're even more inconsequential than ever before, no tribe, no people. The only thing that keeps you alive (and why conservatives laugh at you for being weak) is the state you so desperately want to expand ad infinitum.

But I am conservative. I'm just not a racist.