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Iran enriching Uranium.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-11 13:16

http//news.yahoo.com/...

Why isn't Bush doing anything. He attacked Iraq with less evidence and while the UN inspectors were given access. Now Iran has blocked the inspections and the leader has claimed to have enriched uranium. And he called Kerry a flip flopper.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-11 13:31

Yeah, they should nuke the evil Iran, high-seat of Islam... no wait that would start WW III -- Terro (synonymos to muslim) vs. Freedom (to nuke others).

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-11 18:01

Islam vs Fascism: WHO EVER WINS WE GLOW!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-11 18:04

>>3
They got no nukes(yet). They will glow and we will watch it live on TV while eating popcorn. Oh the beauty of mushroom cloud.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 2:05

If Iran had nukes, who cares? Iran couldn't nuke the US, and wouldn't dare a nuclear annhilation. That's why nobody nukes
each other.

All nukes would insure is Iran's soverignty.



I still say all this is a war for Israel.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 5:15

>>5

So why did U.S. care so much about Iraq having nukes?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 8:27 (sage)

>>5

Israel.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 11:22

>>5

We should care because most islamofascists are not playing with a full deck, you see mutual annihilation only matters to people who care about being dead, if you haven't noticed islamofascists do not particularly care about being dead, in fact many of them welcome the opportunity to bang some virgin ass.

That aside though Iran is already making threats about the oil passing through the Straight of Hormuz which is 2/5 of the world production IIRC, can you imagine how much more serious that threat would be when they have a nuclear stick in their arsenal?

An interuption like that would bring many western economies to their knees, and would probably strengthen China and Russia who as always will deal with anybody to get their oil.

and >>1 First people like you were all whining oh noes the evil Buuuush didn't give diplomacy a chance now its oh noes the evil Buuuush is giving diplomacy a chance it wouldn't matter what the evil Buuuush did you would still disagree.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 11:34

>>8

Actually no. I supported the war in Iraq from the start. I just pointed out his inconsistency with Iran.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 12:04

>>9

Ok appologies for mischaracterizing you then, but still I think he is doing the right thing by handling each situation as it deserves and not just going hey we invaded Iraq so lets go do the same thing in Iran and maybe N. Korea too.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 12:26

>>10

HAHA, fag. Made you say sorry. Actually I hate Bush and Americans and the Iraq war. Fucking pwned.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 13:10

>>11

LOL, hey your grade 2 teacher just called, breaks over get back to class.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 14:26

Who cares, Iran isn't completely bat shit fucking loco. They are just average crazy, like China. China's never done anything outside their borders, so fuck them.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 14:57

>>13

You mean nothing like Tibet? or nothing like their constant threats against Taiwan? Or nothing like their support for North Korea? Or nothing like their arms dealers being all over Venenzulea kissing some Chavez ass? Which nothing in particular are you talking about?

And Iran is nothing like China, yes they are infact raving mad and would most likely use any weapons at their means.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 15:22

>>14
Chavez's cholo asshole needs a suck clean. Besides they're leaving Taiwan alone now and Tibet is within their borders.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-12 18:30

>>15

Tibet is within their borders...now how did they make it that way?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 1:02

>>8
>>12
>>10

? you giant american cunt. israel has nukes, why dont we bomb them? oh wait, americans have nukes, why dont all other nuke infested countries throw a couple in that direction?

in fact, america loands out their nukes from time to time, directly against the UN resolution of "no trading nukes else you get a slap on your wrist."

bottom line is, no matter what the rest of the world thinks, america lives in thier own little bubble, and this bubble is been threatened by the fact that other nations are a lot more tolerant, and the oil supply is running out. fuck you and your bubbly america dream. nothing exceeds than excess. so go fuck yourself and swim in your lake made out of money whilst the rest of the world starve and die.

i'm gonna go eat some grass cos i'm too poor... nothing beats hunger better than grass roots and stones. mmmmmmm.. rancid limestones. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 1:15

>>16
"Americans" raping away the "Indians" is ok, but some other country taking land is not. I don't get this shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:05

>>18

Heres what happened in America.

America was a big wide open space. White people came over here. Saw space. Said, gee let's live here. Some Indians lived there too. Enough space for everybody. For a long time, everybody lives together well enough. The 'Indians" didn't own this land. They didn't have a unified nation and they didn't claim the whole united states.

After a number of years, the Americans and the Indians started crowding each other. Over time, many Indians decided to assimilate into western society. More and more pressure was put on the Indians, and both the Americian society and the Indian society were competing ideologically and economically. At a certain point, the Americans and the Indians start killing each other. The Indians lose. Like all people that lose a war, they got royally screwed over at first. Later on, Americans, generally meaning white people, decided that they liked the idea of being generous and nice to everybody. So, they started doing all sorts of things for the 'native' tribes that 'owned' (and many tribes barely had such a concept) certain limited parts of American. No they did not make claims from sea to shining sea, most of the North American landmass was uninhabited. That's why it was called 'wilderness.'

The 'Indians' as you call them, were actually many different tribes that claimed certain parts of the united states. Much of their land by this point they had sold to the Americans. This is hardly stealing. Indians are now Americans or living on nice little government subsidized property, which I pay for through my taxes. Quite frankly, I don't even think they have a right to that money. I've never been one for giving anyone a free ride, but apparently anybody who isn't white deserves some sort of reparation for some sort of evil that 'white people' (and no-one. Yes, there is only one side to the story and white people are unilaterally evil and nobody ever harms white people) did collectively (as a whole somehow) and are responsible for.

That is quite frankly the dementia of a deluded and unrealistic mind. It's a one-sided argument that is entirely unfair to white people or the position they were in. It puts on the descendents of anyone who is white an unfair burden of guilt they neither need nor deserve. Why not laud white people for the good they have done? Enjoy science, which is undoubtably an original invention of western civilization. (The invention of 'science' itself as including the rudiments of scientific theory, scientific epistemology, formalized logic, philosophy of science, formalized rigorous explanation, and rebuttal of authority in reaction to contradicting evidence)

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:30

>>19
Just because Indians didn't tear up the world, form it like western civilization, and had different vaules did not mean white people could just lay claim to it. Sure they were not unified, but they certianly outnumbered the whites. There WERE indians from sea to shining sea. The only sale of land by Indians to white people I can recall is for Manhattan Island. I'm sure there were more, but for big chunks it was buy from french or a war with spain. Indians were on that land? Who cares. We'll just march them off to a shithole wasteland. That's equitable. Oh and we'll feel bad about it later, make future generations pay for it, and they'll bitch and moan, but we'll be dead so it's ok.

"Nice little governmetn subsidized property"? LOL, great way to gloss over history. "Concentration camps" would be a more appropriate description. Oh you're talking about now, boo fucking hoo, there are so few of them now, it doesn't even matter. Most of your taxes are paying old white people and your wars. And don't act like only white people pay taxes. White people cheat more taxes than any other race if you like to throw statitics around.

Your arguement is not one-sided at all. Nope, no bias here. LOL. Oh well, keep a stiff upper lip. People of ability have the burden of the world.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:35

>>17

A few simple reasons you big dumb ignorant cunt, they haven't constantly threatened to wipe their neighbors off the face of the world. And this pop quiz question:

Most terrorists and terror attacks in the world are carried out by:

A) Radical islamofascisits such as those running Iran.
B) Joooooos
C) Mormons
D) Your mum

Correct answer is A and that is why no one wants said radical islamofascists to have nukes because as noted above they really don't give a shit about mutual annihilation.

Oh noes typical argument of those suffering from the mental derangement known as liberalism America has nukes oh noes that means America is just as equal to a bunch of insane thugs in rags who want to wipe out anyone who doesn't conform to their religion, starting with Israel. That’s because you know there are no laws in America, and they go around nuking people for shits and giggles.

Gee America loans out nukes? Great so what's the monthly payment can I get 0% financing on that? Fucking retard.

And as for tolerant I don't know what fucking newspaper you read but take a look around the planet, America and many other western nations are the most tolerant places on the planet. I dare you to go to Saudi Arabia or Zimbabwe or N. Korea and condemn their government. They will teach you the meaning of tolerance in their filthy jails if you are lucky enough to even make it there alive.

In Zimbabwe they shoot to kill just for driving down Mugabe’s street there’s some tolerance for you, but in America even if you jump into the white house lawn they still try to take you in alive.

>>18
Boy another fucking retard, so just because someonme a few hudnred years ago supposedly stole some land we should all just role over and get nuked by Iran now? Get a fucking clue. Besides >>19 explained it quite well.

Fucking weak kneed euros were the ones stealing land and resources from well established civilizations and to this day most problems around the world we left behind by Euro fags and their colonization:

Israel/Palestine, Kashmir, Sri Lanka, Most of Africa, all in the shitter cause of Europe so go fuck yourselves before blaming America.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:40

>>19
What 18 means is, why is ok for the US to build empires but not other nations? They woke up one day and said... hey taking over countries is bad. Don't you do it now. Manifest Destiny? Huh... oh... well... ignore that. Likewise we can have nukes but you can't.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:42

>>22

Can you show me the US "empire"

Last I checked it was pretty much the rest of the old gang of Euros and the new boys to the club Russia and China building empires, they will sell anything to anyone with cold cash.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:48

>>23
Please. Do we have to stamp fucking US on the map before you get it? Nevermind, you can't read maps. The US does any thing it can to protect its interests. They are not clearly labeled for you people with your contrast on too high.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:53

>>21
18 here, I wasn't even talking about Iran. Learn to read, ignorant cunt.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 2:59

At the moment, Iran is able to enrich uranium at the laboratory level, ie not production level and it's not even near weapons grade. So what if all they're trying to do is make a few power plants? Yeah, unlikely, but what if?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 12:32

>>21

hahah your fucking ignorant american cunt. continue living in your little bubble. this is what i dub the "american-dream symptom". i gotta hand it to ya, your can-do attitude and excesses is really quite amazing. aint that right, you little all-american-boy living in the free world that you americans helped build :)  and of course, jesus visited "ancient" america, no less! i can't imagine anything better than living in a country filled with nukes, having "records" of jesus's visits, largest porn industry, not knowing very much geography or history, have slaves, own guns, anti-abortion, holywood, and loads of awesome fast foods.  could do with a bacon double cheese burger right now actually.. mmmmm.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 14:02

>>25

Then you really fail it for posting shit not even related to the thread, don't you?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 14:31

>>27

Sorry not American nor white, so you fail yet again, but I am very pro American.

But let’s go through your little diatribe:

Jesus visiting America? umm ok so if some group of people believe that then all Americans must believe it and this is actually relevant how? You know Europe is being taken over by a bunch people who believe in a moon rock, and they are not very tolerant of dissent, think you need to worry about that a little more.

Living in a country filled with nukes, forgot the little piece of history known as the cold war have we? Maybe you weren't even born during that time period given your ignorance.

Largest porn industry? Yeah looks like that whole Jesus thing you were going on about doesn't include everyone after all, sounds like freedom is working quite well to me?

Not knowing geography or history? umm ok again that means everyone riiight.

Slaves? WTF

Own guns yeah good freedom still working.

Anti-abortion yeah again freedom working, in America there is this little thing where you are allowed to have your own opinions and if some people want to hold that opinion unlike in many other parts of the world no one is going to throw you in jail. Last I checked abortion is still legal BTW.

Hollywood, well you have a point there, they are a bunch of fags and should probably move to Europe.

Fast food, yeah because you know there is no fast food any where else in the world and boy Americans only eat fast food, yeah please see Hollywood above, they are responsible for that appearance.

So don't be jealous little euro fag in your shitty overcrowded dirty euro town.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 17:40

>>28

No, it's called following a conversation, as opposed to raving lunacy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 22:28

>>29

What do you mean by: "Europe is being taken over by a bunch of people who believe in a moon rock"?

Also: How is this any different from an religion ever?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-13 22:33

>>19

The only thing that's demented, deluded and unrealistic is that this little scenario you cooked up to explain away that fact that this land is stolen.

The reason people don't laud whites for the good they've done is because you want them to laud whites for shit they didn't do. Science, philosophy, all of that was around long before whites.

What really happened is that whites have won a couple wars and have taken this to assume that they've invented everything and are superior.

How many time must you be reminded that history isn't over yet?

11?

389?

A thousand?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 9:24

>>31

Guy's too creative for his own good. He's probably talking about Mecca, although i doubt it came from the moon.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 19:47

It's like that always.

Ok, in college the other day, there was a black lady walking around with a stroller, with a crying baby, in the halls. She was singing to it with class doors open, stopping occasionally to rock the stroller back and forth, not paying a damn bit of attention to anyone behind her, and just going back and forth in the building with the wailing baby.

She'd lived in the US for generations. She spoke english. But, she didn't care a damn about what anybody else thought. Somebody tried saying something, and she just yelled her head off at him. Nobody knew what to do about her. Most black people are like this. They either have a chip on their shoulder, or they don't care a damn about what anybody else thinks, feels, or needs. If they step on you or make your life a little worse, and you're white, that makes them all the happier. After all, they were oppressed by you, so that makes them oppressing you righteous revenge. Has anybody oppressed them? Well, the government gives them money, free college, and preference for being black, and white people spend all of their spare time groveling to them... That doesn't sound like oppression to me. It sounds more like they are oppressing white people. Oh well.

They're just plain uncivilized compared to most whites. It's the god honest truth. The only time that you get civilized blacks are when you have black people live in a place where they are surrounded by 20 whites for one of them, and they are FORCED to learn how to act civilized.

Mexicans are the exact same way. I rent out rental houses in another city. They broke the contract in a billion ways. They painted the kitchen a billion different colors. They broke things throughout the house, in one case they removed the glider from a drawer. They also stole many items from the house. They also overcrowded the tiny house with like 15 people, and they made some sort of bizarre contraption for sexual acts using seran wraps and another draw in the kitchen.
 
The neighbors constantly complained about them just going to the bathroom in the front of the yard, and doing their business out back, which had houses to the side and back all. It was visible by children. Yes, the house did have a bathroom. I guess they just couldn't wait.

That's one house. I've had this happen with THREE different houses; every single fucking time I give one to a Mexican. In the future, I'm not renting out to Mexishits. Fuck them. One time we found out that they were illegal and had forged documents, and they just disappeared from a house they trashed. Being 'tolerance' costs me money. Ignoring reality costs me money. If 1+1=2, 1+1 damn well equals 2. I don't care how much other people tell me not to be observant, else fear the grade school bullying of being called 'racist.'

Truth makes me money. Illusion costs me money. 'Diversity and equality' fucking ignore reality and cost me money. I work damn hard. I am not going to ignore my own experience because some fucking trust-fund baby who hasn't worked a day in their life talks about how 'racism' is 'wrong-thinking,' while they live in their ivory towers with their perfumed and trained minorities, while I have to deal with the majority of blacks and mexicans, i.e. complete guttertrash.

The majority of poor people in the United States are white. Some of them, especially in the bible belt, are even MORE strict and concerned about morality than the richer people in the US. I know; I grew up in a poor white neighborhood where everybody's uncle was a super-patriotic priest.

Everybody picks on whites, poor, rich, opressed, or other. That's cause most whites are TERRIFIED to even call themselves white. Poor whites are generally moral, proud, clean, honest, industrious, and hard-working people. Some times you get a bad apple, but his or her mom will beat the living daylights out of them until they get things right. This is more than being 'just' cultural. The Mexican family mentioned here was catholic, but white catholic families don't act like a bunch of trash. They have more scruples than that.

The Mexicans have far more than white people did when they came to the U.S. They have technology. They have land. They could get the ball rolling. They could do so with less work and risk. They have a heck of alot more than the white settlers did in terms of technology and logistics, but they just can't pull anything off. When you are surrounded by human beings that act more animals, what is one good apple going to do? Act like an animal, because only an animal survives in a pack of animals.

You occasionally get a shitty white, but the other whites keep them in line. White people aren't allowed to keep other races in line. Hell, they aren't even allowed to observe these things. That's 'wrong' thinking circa Orwell's 1984. Thinking 'wrongly' is 'discrimination,' (and all thinking is a form of discrimination.) That's 'racism,' which means you are a nazi that wants to kill six million jews.

Oh, and that anybody that cares about white ethnic interests, which we do have, is an absolute paragon of evil in our society.

Oh, dear lord, if you suggested a college fund for whites only, that's pure evil! That's racism. A college fund for blacks only is luadable and wonderful. That's ANTI-racism. It's a fucking double standard. Seems to me that racism means anti-white.

The irony of this situation is that white people tend to be some of the most civilized people, but I tell you, when you DO get white people pissed, it won't be a couple of hundreds killed in a riot; they'll take out the trash with millions. You just wait for it. A couple of hundred thousand illegal immigrants in cities all over the U.S. will look like a fucking cakewalk once you get white people pissed off.

Our current age has become like an experiment to test just how much bullshit white people can take as a whole.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 20:19

The CIA has intercepted materials with potential use in nuclear plants and weapons facilities.  Most of these are traded on the black market by Russians.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 20:21

>>33

I doubt it came from the moon either, but that is what all the Muslims bow down and pray to 5 times a day, a piece of rock *they* think came down from the moon, the same piece of rock that the pagans there before them were worshiping, I don't know what Allah would make of all this idol worship *snicker*.

And as for other religions, last I checked tele-evangelists were only duping the stupid not blowing their houses up. That goes for Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. etc. so no its not like any other religion.

And to >>34 that is exactly right, as I posted before I am not white, I am south Asian, but I agree 100% with 34. The problem is not that all blacks or Mexicans or whoever are scum, but the ones you let into your country are the ones who were scum to start with even in their own country! The civilized people have no need to jump over fences illegally to get to the USA, they legally migrate like most normal law abiding people (such as my parents).

And as for the blacks they have been given a sense of entitlement by the left (because they need votes) and so they think the world owes them, meanwhile they are busy destroying themselves trying not to be like "whitey", instead of actually educating themselves in something other than basketball and drugs they wallow away in their false black pride, proud of what? Absolutely nothing!

Heck I see the black family who lives on our street, the "kids" (probably late teens early 20s) play b.ball all day, meanwhile when I was their age I was studying my butt off, that is why I earn a six figure income now and the blacks are still whining away in their ghettos. I have never stopped studying and working hard, right now I am working on my MBA and will be looking at a considerable boost to income when I am done, and all sponsored by my company cause they know I do my work and do it well. Also any blacks who do have some sense and make something of themselves are immediately labeled uncle toms.

Take even the current US administration, it is so laughable that the democrats in all their years of power have never really placed minorities in any positions of real power, but the so called racist repubs have a black Sec of State and a Latino Attorney General, but of course they are labeled as sell outs or just ridiculed by the very leaders who have done nothing for blacks and Latinos over so many decades. How pathetic!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 21:03

>>34
I'll fill in for the liberals.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 21:05

>>34
500 YEARS OF SLAVERY AND OPPRESSION AND U THINK U ARE THE VICTIMS WAAH WAAH WAAH, IM NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING U SAY, JUST REPEAT THE SAME OL' ARGUMENT OVER AND OVER AND HOPE YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH, SCARED ENOUGH OR TIRED ENOUGH TO STOP CRITICISING MY BULLSHIT, THEN IM GONNA HINT THAT ALL WHITES ARE EVIL AND THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING I GET AND WHEN YOU RESIST I WILL CALL YOU A RACIST FOR CARING ABOUT YOUR OWN RACE!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 21:07

"DESERVE EVERYTHING I GET"
Deserve everything they get*

Oops, was that some weird freudian slip? I guess it would be nice if I had the same treatment as ethnic minorities.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 21:14

We're the fucking hegemon in this world now so we do as we please. Back in the old days, empires used to beat the shit out of the areas that they conquered. America is trying to safeguard itself and that's why we do the things we do. Is it not natural to fuck up all the other countries that pose a threat to our safety and that of our allies?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 21:34

>>40
Urm, they choose to pose a threat, we don't beat the shit out of them for the hell of it. We learned from the mistakes of wolrld war 1 and leading up to world war 2 and how what we did to Germany pissed them off and how we ignored them when they were arming themselves to the teeth.

Lesson 1: Don't terrorise civilians for not opposing their government, agreeing to shoot at americans because you have been mislead IS not a crime. It sounds insane to say this, but the alternative is punishing them for a war they could not stop. Shoot back, just don't shoot at them.

Lesson 2: Don't bend over and accept a cock like a frenchman (the cock just happens to be their national animal) when someone starts fucking with anyone. If an iraqi soldier fires his AK in the general direction of Kuwait, ship over 350 m1a1 abrams and 20 squadrons of helicopter gunships and make it clear that you will kick ass at the slightest provocation.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-14 22:19

>>36
the first and rather educated perspective.

>>29
well i reckon you should become an american :) you ignorant wannabe-american cunt. did i incorporate race into any of the discussion? no. are you then implying "all-american-ness" is exclusive to the Caucasian americans? you idiot. you deserve to be an american and please do not hesitate to apply for a green card and join the rest of their freedom movement. it appears that they will be needing a hand in conquering the rest of the world. regarding the cold war, am i wrong to say that's over?  then why hold onto the nukes? weapons of mass destruction? c'on, wasn't that the excuse to invade iraq? and dont tell me that they are evil-doers and not allowed to have weapons. out of the history of the world, it is america whom dropped the first atom bomb and swiftly followed up with another. you see any1 else dropping a-bombs on cities? no. it is america whom supplied the weapons to the middle-east.

>>38
500 years of opperssion will leave a group of minorities in the shit for many decades to come. much like the problems of Aboriginals in australia, the little 10% of the population uses significant and sizeable amount of tax payers dollars. it is no coincident that the government would want to fix the underlying problem (poverty, lack of education etc etc) by encouraging this group of people to strive in both education and social standings through welfare. again, it achieves the initiative of improving the distribution and spectrum of recipients of tax payers dollars and raises the average spending power per capita. now if everybody can spend more money on bullshit american products, wouldn't that enforces america's own economy further and perhaps, just perhaps, speed up the process of bombing iran? righto ignorant all-american lad~

having a white's only fund or even an asian exclusive charity etc etc. you see the problem here? these people are not the bottom 10% of the population that utilises, lets say 30~35% to illustrate my point, tax dollars on crime prevention, health care etc. yes, poor whites or whatever group of ppl *should* get welfare, and they do in many other countries around the world and not been differentiated by their race or religion. not sure how it goes in america, but there are places in the world where college/uni is free and indeed health care.

addressing the freedom aspect of your wondrous, magical land of america. blacks have the freedom to form their little black-only group. and yes likewise, the whites-only group can exists quite happily in this equation. now when you throw your 2nd amendments into the mix, in my most humble opinion, that's the catalyst for more racial hatred if not inflame the situation further. again, ignorant americans just dont seem to see that. perhaps i am generalising, but hey, just giving a taste of your own medicine :) given all islamic ppl are gun toting, bomb strapping extremists, and americans can't stop stereotyping people, then my implication is such that all americans are ignorant cunts.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 0:03

>>42
Nonsense, you instantly assume all humans are evil. Well let me let you into a little secret. Culture is irrelevant, ideas like honour and morality has cropped up in every culture and after every war, such ideas are technology not culture. That's just it, they are self-evident truths tha are woven into the fabric of reality. All it takes is for a person to be mentorred briefly in this knowledge for it to be passed on for life and after a person has absorbed simple idea such as assertiveness, discipline and reason they instantly decide to become conservatives. All blacks who decide to become conservatives rise above the bullshit that is the only thing left that is truly holding he black man down. Racism only bothers them when it actually happens to them and they react assertively proving they are human, not giving in to hatred and paranoia and making themselves look foolish. Irrationality slides away into silence and is replaced with a crystal clear view of the world and how to react to it to do good for yourself, your friends and your family and to improve yourself further. The things you do actually have an efect on your surroundings, you are no longer corrupted by superstition, instead of hiding in the shadows in fear, you go outside and get the answers you need. Finally you are free at last!

So what if a few blacks form their black-only groups and a few whites form white-only groups, not all humans are stupid and mislead and only in a free-speech environment where you can criticise anyone for anything and shout it out loud can there be any chance of the humans in the society remaining sane. Frankly I'd rather have crackpots like the KKK and the nation of islam as isolated groups no one takes seriously, than have a group like them running the country.

Sure, some americans are ignorant cunts, but at least you won't find yourself being executed for saying that. Maybe someday you will learn that killing and ignoring anyone who disagrees with you just isn't the way forward. That people can be evil, you can be evil and everyone in whatever group you belong to, but that people can be good aswell, that you can do good and rational aswell and maybe even your group can adopt freedom in it's list of ideals and engage in rational debate instead of childish insults.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 0:46

from >>42 :
>>43, well said. perhaps profanities were not the appropriate channels to conduct this debate. rest assured that i understand that exceptions are applicable upon all societies and it is the under-educated and conservative(ignorant) members of communities that are the main driving force within, what i perceived as, the american mainstream. however, it is exactly these issues: lack of knowledge and stereotyping that the americans media and administration so often portrays. world domination seems to a very pervasive and prevalent theme.

i do not assume all people are evil. but americans, through the dominance and ignorance of their administration, have stamped their authority as the invaders and destroyer of societies while flying under the banner of freedom fighters. can you not see your ways are often seen as "evil" in many places in this world? in reality, america has the most nukes and the most chemical/bio weapons. UN should disarm america's weapons of mass destruction if you guys really want to be the frontier of true freedom.
 

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 12:18

>>36

I require funds.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 12:33

Have you ever noticed that america helps everyone they fight. After world war 2 america rebuilt japan,so that it could become the second great civilization in the world today, and right now we are rebuilding Iraq to not suck so bad, after an attack, (though perhaps a misleaded one) to protect the world from Hajji and Habib who decided to get all bosnian and try to kill people this century.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 13:20

>>46
Considerring how much they bitch about it and gloat about their success, we would have been better off committing mass genocide. I guess that's the cost of selflessness, the fact that people prefer to delude themselves into a false sense of victimization and just general craziness instead of being selfless too.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 14:24

>>47
ha, an interesting idea

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 14:30

>>44
America needs their arsenal, because otherwise china whould kill us eventually. Dont you understand the concept of mutually assured destruction? Also we have only used it once, and then only because it was the only choice, the end of an inevitable armsrace, as human science developed nucular fission during a time of strife. America's use of the atomic bomb saved japanise lives, and even after being merciful about defeating them we still footed the bill. We should keep nukes in american hands, because noone wants a nucular haulocost. were skrewed if the balance of power tips.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 14:37

>>47

Genocide is an emotive term; just like holocaust. It works people into a frenzy, but it isn't anything special from killing. It's like a politically correct signal that people should actually care that somebody died, otherwise they're just apathetic.

Lots of people on both sides died in a war in Iraq, when Iraq didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. Now, posthumously, they died for 'regime change.'

Nobody cares a damn.

Now, if they had died by 'genocide' or in a 'holocaust' then somebody would actually care.

People are pretty damn pathetic these days. They've been really screwed up by a twisted world view.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 19:59

in the long run less ppl will die in iraq than before

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 20:07

>>50

I concur.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 21:13

there just too much americanness in this thread. "in the long run, less ppl will die" what the fuck kinda argument is that?! base on the fact that you assholes disarmed their weapons of mass destruction? or after draining the country out of their natural resources?

islam extremists has nothing to do with saddam and he's already removed all other religous fanatics during his reign so there isn't much left to "kill". he is pro-arab, regardless of religion, and now, america has linked the number 1 person whom is against islamic state, religous fanaticism from power. 

we need more ppl from this forum, http://www.friendsofaljazeera.org/ to post in this thread. get a 2nd opinion in this whole rigamorole. ;)

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-15 23:30

>>53

I'm an American. I didn't support the war in Iraq. I don't know anybody who did. All the talking heads are now going after Iran and telling us how deadly Iran is. I don't support the coming war in Iran either. I don't know anybody who does. I know plenty of people that are against it. I don't know of anybody that supports the Iraq occupation either. Again, I know plenty of people against it.

The average American didn't support the war in Iraq and we don't support the war in Iran either. But, guess what, we didn't have any SAY either. The kings do what they want to. Guess what, both sides, Democrat and Republican, are the same people wearing different team colors. The democrats support Israel and middle east intervention. The Republicans support Israel and middle east intervention.

What the hell are we supposed to do? We don't run this country anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-16 2:24

hey guys, iraq is better off, they are not being killed by a despotic ruler, and their resources whitch had previously been used to build palaces now will go to the people. And they have cable tv.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-16 2:42

>>55
 hahah omg! yes that makes it all the better :) given a choice i'd take the cable tv over a palace anyday!

sadamm killed muslim extremists. sadamm killed his enemies (ppl that tried to assinate him). perhaps his methods were boarderlining mass murder/genocide, but correct me of i'm wrong, aren't we trying to destroy muslim terrorists right now? say afgans mujahidden? please be aware that saddam fully supported russian's occupation in afghan for the reason of westernising afghanistan. not turning it into a oppressive, religous fanatic country that it is in right now.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-16 4:40

The only reason Saddam seems so bad, is because he's just more efficient than us, and his intelligence agency was a lot better (probably due to it being mostly domestic), therefore we are just jealous of him.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-16 7:06

>>36

You don't even know what it means to be black and have to deal with the very same stigmas you so freely whitewash entire groups of people with. You need to settle the fuck down and stop thinking so much about other races. You are one man, you are weak and there is nothing you can do to change anything around you unless you have an army and a shitload of money behind you.

Get over yourself. You don't know shit. You're just some little punk kid who eventually is going to be put into place by REALITY.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-16 7:09

>>43
 TRUTH TOLD

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-17 3:40

Mine is the biggest dick.

In other news, it's 3 fucking percent. WHOOPDEEDOO. I don't give a fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-17 18:19

>>56 "Saddam killed his enemies"

Man then I guess Iraqi children are pretty hardcore especially all those Kurdish ones in those villages Saddam gassed, sure looked like they were just mind their own business, but now you have enlightened us, they were all secret child ninjas out to assisinate Saddam, why I guess all those Olympic atheletes Saddam's boy was torturing and the highschool girls he picked from year books to be raped and killed, they too were all super secret ninjas ready to assasinate Saddam.

Now the whole child prison thing is clear, all this time we though he only kept the kids in there to make their parents comply, boy how wrong we were, it was infact the kids that were the danger, evil murdering ninja assisns that they are! Who would have thunk it!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-17 18:28

>>58

Dealing with stigamas? Being brown there are plenty of stigmas to go around, I just choose not to dwell on it and spend my entire life feeling that someone owes me something or wallowing in some false sense of self pitty. Instead I decided to do what I can with what I have been given and have done pretty well with that.

Where did I say I wanted to change everything around me? I have succeded in changing my own future, something many blacks seem incapable of trying, they are still waiting for someone else to do it for them, their perpetual sense of entitlement, they are still going to be waiting for their leaders or the government to lift them up while every other race passes them by.

Perhaps I don't know what it means to be black, so enlighten us are you black? I wonder if you even know the name of even one of you forebears who was a slave, but please do continue with you tales of woe and oppression.

As far as reality goes I think I am well grounded in it, it sounds like the black community is the one that needs to wake up and figure out just because some ancestor hundreds of years ago was someones slave it doesn't mean they can sit on their duff all day and cry about it.

Cause guess what in the long sordid history of this world, our ancestors have all been someone's bitch at some point in history, so if you want to ruin your life over some long dead old guy be my guest.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-18 0:38

>>61
and i guess that's enough to warrant an invasion of iraq. why not invade china, malaysia and brunei seeing that they had a ruthless history against women and children. are you also telling me that there are no women & children casualties from all the wars initiated by the US in the history? hows about invading india seeing that certain minister's son openly shot a bar tender in cold blood for refusing  him drinks. He got away with it scot free. why not also invade indonesia also, seeing their government is murdering the papuans.

please, clean up your shitty backyard before advancing halfway across the globe to ninja loot ppl's natural resources. ignorant american cunt.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-18 10:48

>>63

According to your argument then the world should have just let all the dictators do as they wish, Hitler should have been left alone because guess what many thousands more civilians were killed in even a single allied bombing raid than have been killed in Iraq so far. And here's another little fact Saddam killed far more civilians than are even close to having been killed in Iraq by the liberation, but in your mind its only wrong if "ignorant american cunts" do it, so who is really ignorant here?

Maybe if the other western powers would show more back bone than interest in their pocket books half these thugs masquerading as leaders would be put in line, but they know all too well that the rest of the world only cares about money and nothing else. Why look at Europe, Russia, China etc they will make deals with anyone.

And just FYI it was Europe and their meddling that started and saw the worst wars humanity has ever seen, so if the label should be applied to anyone it should be "ignorant european cunt". And even now instead of standing firm against oppression they make deals with the oppressors.

To quote an excellent WSJ peice from quite some time ago, way before 9/11 way before Bush, in fact it was utopia on earth as we knew it becuase the almighty Clinton was in power:

"The Europeans have no idea how absurd they look across the Atlantic as they defend, as if it were the highest moral principle, their right to treat with the most despicable thug regimes on the planet (Iran, Libya, Cuba). Is this the high water mark of European civilization? Is the vaunted EU so weak that it depends on this trade?"
-Wall Street Journal-Europe (editorial page), August 29 1996

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-18 23:10

Ignore em, Some European country getting nuked over another cartoon will take away some of the smug indignation and may actually make the UN act so the US won't hafta

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 2:14

>>62

Yes, I am Black. And that's why I know all that shit you're saying stems from immaturity and a profound misjudgement of the outside world. It's laughable that you think you can whitewash an entire group of people as having "a perpetual sense of entitlement".

Do you, yourself, have a "perpetual sense of entitlement" by virtue of the fact that you feel you are simultaneous;y "entitled" to good things in life and you "strive" towards that. So because of this you're "entitled" to unequivically judge everyone and everything around you. Maybe whites have a "perpetual sense of entitlement" which else makes them entitled to their arrogance? For everything you bring up about blacks- I could bring up about whites or any other race. It's fucking boring.

You think you're just "telling it how it is" or "making an observation" but you're not. You're just looking at the results without making any effort to acknowledge or indentify the social  mechanisms involved with the perception of race. You're acting like the Human Condition doesn't apply.

Think about this: Trying to just simply exist as a human being and everyone telling you what you should or shouldn't do (or be able to do) based solely on the color your skin. When I say everyone- I mean whites, blacks- everyone. You pick up a book and stop playing B-ball = A majority of your own race hates you. You become "learned" and chill with whites = "Hey why don't you play basketball?"

You don't seem to understand that there's a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario playing out here. And you are consciously perpetuating a myth that "everything's gon be awight" when some of the hoods around me register for the local JC.

There is something seriously wrong with the entire notion of race and until we as a society are ready to sit down and see where race has benefitted us as intelligent beings- all of your notions of what entire cultures should or shouldn't be doing is entirely fucking meaningless.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 9:11

>>66
Many people, such as Albert Einstein and many races such as Eskimoes have genetically larger IQs. The evil white race was given the right environment as all white people since the end of the ice age were miraculously lucky and fed by a silver spoon, it of course has nothing to do with the fact that maybe whites are intelligent and built the civilisation that gave them the ability to rule the seas. We need to make sure children are born with the right genes and the right environment, so no one has to suffer being a dumbass anymore.

Since blacks have low iqs and aren ot very succesful, they should go. If you think they should stay it must be due to illogical racist reasons since you must have some perverse desire for everyone in the future to be black at the expense of their less desirable traits. Being black myself I fully support this idea. If you imply I am not black you are a racist.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 9:12

>>67
Oh, and as for environment we need pro-scientific western environments most of all, since people brought up in those conditions are the most succesful.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 10:04 (sage)

This fucking thread delivers. Liberally.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 13:30

We were reading a magazine item about wildlife preservation in Africa, and naturally we thought about who, as usual, does that preserving.

Did Blacks create wildlife and/or environmental conservation in Africa? Nope. Whites did. In fact, one major conservation project was begun by the late White actor William Holden. Did Blacks create a medical network in Africa where doctors travel to remote Black tribal villages and distribute medicine and medical advice, free of charge? Nope. Again, Whites did that. What about birth control advice -- which Blacks refuse to follow? Again, that idea came from Whites.

What about when there is a bloody civil war in Africa, e.g. Rwanda or the Ivory Coast wars -- do Blacks anywhere in Africa work to stop those wars or aid the victims? No. Whites always step in and try to stop those wars, and try to aid the Black war victims.

When a drought strikes Africa, who trucks in water, or supplies water pumps [which are stolen by Blacks and sold] and water purification devices? Again, Whites.

The fact is that, for all the talk in Hollywood [Jewish] productions about Whites being evil oppressors, Whites collectively are the nicest, most compassionate people on Earth. In fact, that feature is the problem in the West: we are too damn nice. Immigrants? Sure, bring them in! Blacks voting [solely for leftist candidates]? Great! Mexicans becoming Congressmen [to later hinder anti-immigration bills]? All right! Humans are all the same, correct? Sure!

The oddest thing is that human beings tend to think that all other groups of people think exactly like them, until they actually meet and interact with those groups.

No other race compares to whites when it comes to being "nice." That's the truth. And, it is only because we are so nice that we allow those races to demonize whites. Dishing out some truth is just too mean for us to do. I mean, how would black people feel without their victimization from slavery? How would Jews feel without their victimization from the holocaust and the rest of their 'pity-party' religion and heritage? I mean, telling them that slavery and holocaust have absolutely nothing to do with the white race today, and that the people that HAD anything to do with those events are long dead and therefore out of scope, would absolutely cause them to self-destruct. What would be the meaning of life for them without living in a revisionist past where they can blame all of their problems on an invisible yet omnipresent white scapegoat?


Yep. Those evil White people...rotten to the core..

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 15:02

Iran is 10 years away from Nukes, why are people pissing their pants now when this should be the time for diplomacy?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 15:36

>>67

You know you're not black, I know you're not black. Just give it up.


>>70

It's the same people posting the same shit and over and over and over. Don't you get it? It's not "nice" when you hold it over everyone's heads. It's arrogant and only supports the fact that whites are inherant cowards with a superiority complex. You're so afriad of the impending backlash for all the shit you've done you're trying to convince all non-white that you've been "the nicest race". Too bad this tactic is only working on the people it's REALLY meant to uplift: Other whites.

History doesn't lie. You can call it liberal spin or whatever...but that's just "white conservative spin". It doesn't matter because *GASP* Whites are not the future.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 21:51

>>72

Sorry, I forgot that objective observation was racist. Oh, yes, I'm afraid of all the backlash and punishment I'm going to recieve for something that had absolutely nothing to do with me.  Yes, I must pay out more government money to black college funds because somebody owned slaves, and they may be like, I don't know a 100  degrees of separation related away to me, and perhaps 10000 away degrees related to you (I'm assuming you are black.) Hmm, should arabs and asians also pay out reparations? They came from Eurasian man like all non-blacks, which means they are probably about 500 degrees of separation related to people who owned slaves in america. I guess other non-whites not from africa can pay 1/5 the amount to blacks that whites do. After that, are we square?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 21:59

>>73

Oh, and you can pay, I don't know, like a 1/100th to yourself, and some blacks will have to make more donations than others. After all, the percentage of free blacks that owned slaves was higher than the percentage of free whites that owned slaves during that time in the South. And what about the mixed blacks? If they are half white, does that mean they have to pay a full reparation or a partial reparation?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-19 22:40

>>74

Also, if you had an ancestor that was a black slaveowner that owned black slaves, does that mean that you have to pay reparations or do you still get reparations? Or, if you are black and you had an ancestor that was a black slaveowner and an ancestor that was a black slave, do you recieve or pay full or partial reparations?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 2:15

>>73
>>74
>>75

You guys don't seem to understand that the race issue revolving around blacks have nothing to do with slavery itself, but social, cultural and political practices of racism that served as a countinous oppression for an entire group of people who were at that point- nationalized. (Unlike illegal immigrants).

This just ended 50 years ago, guys.

Who fault is it that you see this as: "More money for them shiftless niggers." and not as it actually is: "More money for poor Americans."

With that said, reparation is an argument that used against blacks these day by other white. I know of exactly ZERO black people that are discussing getting moeny through reparations.

But if you really wanted to go deeper into it, the U.S government did promise the post-slavery black population a helping of sorts. The same kind of helping hands Japs, Jews and Vietnamese got when American felt responsible for displacing and dirupting an entire group of people.

You see: Not everything is about you and what you don't want to ply. What everything IS about, however, bettering society. Society would be ten times better than it is if you would turn all that judgmental energy into optimism and a willingness to see others succeed.

The problem with the white race is that they can't stand the idea that anyone is above them.

This is why you're going to bite off more tahan you can chew with China.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 8:45

um....

poor people != black
poor people != white
rich people != black
rich people != white

whiteness and blackness are entirely separate from richness or poorness. If you are going to fight poverty, which is actually a good goal rather than the pure twisted insanity of anti-racism, you should focus on POOR people. The majority of the poor in the U.S. are white, and therefore the majority of people helped if the poor were bettered would be white.

Equality between the races is a silly idea. This sort of thing fluctuates. Besides, the races don't have to be equal in the first place. Countries don't have to be equal either.

Look, if you are so ethnocentrically focused, why don't you go to black countries and help the poor there, instead of demanding advantages over whites in white countries. There are plenty of places in the world where blacks have absolute sovereignty. They are sucky places, but that's the fault of the peoples living there. And no, don't go scapegoating that one on white people. The world does not revolve around us like blacks and jews seem to think. So, go on, go do something productive instead of looking for equality when you should be looking for enhancement.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 9:37

OK GUYZ THIS TOPIX IS ABOUT IRAN NOT NIGGERS OK

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 14:24

>>78
Sand niggers < niggers

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 15:56

>>79
True.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 16:19

lol guess where civilization started. certainely not in Africa.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 18:47

>>77

In America whiteness/blackness go hand-in-hand with richness/poorness. The only reason "A majority of the poor are white" is because whites make up the majority in America. Anti-Abortion laws aid you keeping those honkey numbers up. Too bad everyone with sense sees through this tactic and Abortion in the areas of the country where all the politicans, intellecuals come from will remain a matter of choice.

Furthering my point- how is it you don't see that a majority of blacks are impoverished. It's only been 50 years, do you expect overnight change from a race of people who have been systematically held back? How can even deny Jim Crow? How can you deny the striization of blacks whom scored higher than whites on IQ tests in the 1940's? How can you deny these things have had an effect on the population and expect to reconcile the white/black race issues in this country.

You're either a fucking fool or you simply are a white supremacist. There can be no other option. You're either wholly ignorant or a bigot. 

Case in point: The only reason anti-racism seems insane to you is because you perceive America as a "white country". A system of racism is benefitial to you (whites) and no one else. That's why you're cnoservative. That's why you're the status quo. That's why you're "business as usual".

American isn't a white country. And that will be shown to be the truth in the next 80-90 years. You're going to eventually have to deal with this undeniable fact before it deals with you (harsely).

You keep saying that the world doesn't revolve around you and yet...your superiority complex, arrogance and fear from losing some advantage you think you have over others still persists.

Why is this?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 22:50

"whiteness/blackness go hand-in-hand with richness/poorness"
"how is it you don't see that a majority of blacks are impoverished"

After thinking, for so many years, that more Blacks live in poverty than any other racial group, I decided to check the facts for myself. Being inundated with pictures of little starving Black children in the media, you come to accept the "obvious fact" that, because there are more starving Blacks on television, there are more starving Blacks in the real world.

In 2004, based on the Census' People and Families in Poverty by Selected Characteristics: 2003 and 2004, there was a total of 36, 997,000 people living below the poverty line. The population estimates as of July 1st, 2004 showed a total American population of 293,656,842 persons, so about 12.5% of the population is below the poverty line. The 2004 American Community Survey shows a total of 285,691.501. The Census poverty document states 12.7%. Thirty-seven million people is a lot of people; about as much as the entire state of California. (ILLUSTRATION: A White woman from impoverished Appalachia. Greatness can come from the White poor who are not poor genetically; think of Poe. The same cannot be said for the non-White underclass that absorbs so much of our tax money today.)

We'll use the Community Survey numbers:

Total Population by Race

Whites - 216,036,244, 75.6%
Blacks - 34,772,381, 12.2%
Asian - 12,097,281, 4.2%
Hispanic - 40,459,196, 14.2%
[We're compelled to use the inappropriate term 'Hispanic,' when what is really meant is Mestizo, because we're citing the actual government documents, which persist in using this confusing non-racial term. -- Ed.]

Total Below Poverty Line by Race

Whites - 16,870,000
Blacks - 9,000,000
Asian - 1,209,000
Hispanic - 9,132,000

Percent of Population Below Poverty Line

Whites - 7.8%
Blacks - 25.9%
Asian - 10%
Hispanic - 22.6%

That's a fairly convincing percentage; a quarter of American Blacks live below the poverty line while less than 10% of Whites do. In other words, Blacks are more likely to be poverty stricken than Whites. The numbers don't lie; there it is. But wait. 37 million people in poverty, 17 million are White?

Let's look at the percentages based on poverty figures instead of total population. Remember, the total below the poverty line is 37,000,000 (36, 997,000).

Total Below Poverty Line by Race

Whites - 16,870,000
Blacks - 9,000,000
Asian - 1,209,000
Hispanic - 9,132,000

Percentage of Total Below Poverty Line by Race

Whites - 45.6%
Blacks - 24.3%
Asian - 3.3%
Hispanic - 24.7%

So if you had 100 poor people in a group, 25 would be Black, 25 would be 'Hispanic,' and 46 would be White.

Admittedly, yes, black people have a higher percentage IN RELATION TO THEIR OWN POPULATION that is below the poverty line. BUT, the majority of blacks are NOT poor. In fact, blacks don't even make up the majority of poor in the U.S., whites do. Second, whites aren't 'majority rich' either. The majority of whites are middle class, which they have remained at for a very very long time. A minority of whites, less than 1%, are fabulously rich. In fact, the jews make far more than the average white, and they make up a larger amount of the rich rich class.

Whiteness is not associated with 'richness,' jewishness is a much closer approximation. Whiteness is associated with middle-classness.



"American isn't a white country. And that will be shown to be the truth in the next 80-90 years. You're going to eventually have to deal with this undeniable fact before it deals with you (harshly)."

About the latter, you are absolutely correct; about the former you are incorrect. America is currently a white country with heavy amounts of minorities, and American was a 'white' country. In the future, America will not be a white country (which is our own damn fault because we tend to actually be one of the least ethnocentric-minded races, read http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com/vol2no2/km-unique.html by Professor Kevin MacDonald ), unless white people do something about it. And, as I was pleasantly surprised to find out, they are.

Go on, threaten us. Threaten white people. Tell us that we're evil. Mistreat us with words. Abuse us. Blame us for things that have nothing to DO with us, with long-gone civiliZations long dead. Buy into your revisionist history that uses the white race as its scapegoat, and puts a burden on those living who have nothing to do with the dead. Keep on playing that game. But, I'm going to ask you; do you really want to piss white people off? Do you really want to have a fight with the white race on your hands?

Well, I'm going to appeal to your sense of fair play. This isn't about white supremacy. This is about something far more foundational. It's about the preservation of my people and my way of life. I respect your right to do that; I'm going to ask you to respect my right to do that. Go to a black country. You have plenty of choices. Hell, if you manage to improve those countries, you become a black hero. There is much work to be done in those places, and it should be black people doing it. The age of every white country being multiracial and multicultural is about over. As you might have noticed, if you do any research on the current affairs of the U.S. or Europe, white survival and preservation is becoming a very popular idea. The fact that you hear anything about this with a (jewishly and liberally) biased media says that there are a great deal more people that support these ideas than you would think. A silent majority won't stay silent forever. You watch; things are changing.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 22:52

Oh, and I'd also like to mention here, that if you are being fair-minded, you have to admit that the poor majority is white. So, you would be far more accurate to say that poorness is associated with whiteness rather than blackness, because a majority of the poor are white.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-20 23:29

"How can you deny the striization of blacks whom scored higher than whites on IQ tests in the 1940's?"

Sterilized for high IQ? Please provide a source.

There are still some blacks that test higher than some whites on IQ tests. People born with severe genetic defects tend to have lower IQs.

As for sterilization and eugenics laws in the U.S., 90% of the people sterilized under eugenics laws were white. What in the world are you complaining about?

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Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 2:03

>>83

In America, a majority of the white people are poor because whites are the majority in America. Nothing you wrote refutes that. Blacks are disportionally impoverished in a country where there were systems set up to ensure there would be unequal treatment. Nothing in your post refutes that, either.

White hands alone did not build this country. White hands alone do not continue the growth of this country. Whites did didn't invent democracy. They didn't even invent the ideal. And White hands alone did not build this country's culture. America ceased to belong soley to whites the moment you started letting everyone in and the moment you gyped this land from non-whites. Which is basically from the beginning. Keep in mind this also includes races that were never considered "white"- namely the scottish and the irish. When the English conquered them they were assimilated in an Alexanderian fashion into "The white race".

There's a reason why the Dutch and other "white countries" take your overtly supremacist notions as a bit of a lark. It's because "white people" don't exist. If Iceland, Norway or Dutch decides to kick out the arabs- they are doing so out of "Dutchness" or "Icelandicness"- not out of "whiteness". 

To be "American" isn't to be white. I realize that you *think* this to be true because you are so immensly loyal to the "white race". Your whiteness is your identity. The problem with everything you're saying is that I don't consider myself "black" in the same way you consider yourself "white". Inside, I don't "feel like a black man". Or "think like a black man".

Ever hear the term "Petty Cash" or "Walking Money"? That's what "my race" is to me. A frivilous social commoditity. An act people take part in because society has given them little choice. Anyway...

"Go on, threaten us. Threaten white people. Tell us that we're evil. Mistreat us with words. Abuse us. Blame us for things that have nothing to DO with us, with long-gone civiliZations long dead. Buy into your revisionist history that uses the white race as its scapegoat, and puts a burden on those living who have nothing to do with the dead. Keep on playing that game. But, I'm going to ask you; do you really want to piss white people off? Do you really want to have a fight with the white race on your hands?"

What I said wasn't a threat. Your idea of change is a return to old ways. And it's a very clever deception to turn this into some "new movement" or "neo" sentiment among the white population. This is nothing but delusion on your part.

The only way this can be a threat to you- is if you are afraid of losing "white privelage". This change- should only effect those who have unfairly, unjustly and unethically used (and abused) white privelage under the misguided notion that this country "belongs to them". Whites proved to the rest of the world that such notions of posession are merely convienant at best.

It is in this way that you set yourselves up for abuse. You *are* afraid. And your list of atrocities commited in the effort of quelling this fear are long and any resistence to the coming change will be enacted from that primal cowardice.

Another aspect of your arugment that you refuse to acknowledge is that you can not claim to have nothing to do with the henious actions of "your people" and at once readily accept "all the good" you think your race has done "for humanity".

You keep repeating the same shit over and over like useless dogma. And you've yet to explain to me, how one can "revision" the holocaust, the atomic attack on japan, African colonization, East Indian colonization, South/North Amerindian colonization, Slavery, Jim Crow?

You simply must understand that you cannot leave unreconciled...the fact that whites have been at the focal point of a lot of artocious world events and crimes against humanity...al in the name of "your race" and this notion that you've been "the nicest race".

What irks me about you in particular is that everyone on these forums seems able to express a degree of doubt or at least question themselves. As a 13 year child I was led to believe that everything black and from Africa is pure and good. And that whites have done everything bad and tainted everything.

I have the sense enough to question MY culture. Why do you not question yours, if not out of loyality and the superiority complex you happily wear as a prize?

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