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Why Don't You Believe In God?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-25 19:48

Hi,

I am a Christian, and I was just wondering why the non-believers on this board don't believe. Why don't they?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-25 19:53

Any living creature fears death... at least on an instinctual level... That accounts for our self-preservation instincts.

Humans though, hold a special fear of death... we have the mental capacity to wonder about the afterlife... Heaven? Hell? Purgatory? Reincarnation?

All of these (and any religion) could be explained as humanity's desperate need for self-preservation, immortality, in a sense.

I do not fear death, that is why I don't belive in God.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-25 20:06

>>1

I dont believe because i beleive that it was the probabilties of science which made the blocks of life and shit... and why would a god put the world in so much torment (Africa, Terrorisim, and Religion... seriously... if a god wanted us to worship him... it would tell us to worship him... if a god created life... why ould it punish it to trying out everything he created (Drugs alchol sex  lucifer?) if he has the power to take temptations away why doesnt it? why would it create such things as choice... if we were meant to worship a god why would hit let us worship replacements (celebraties etc etc..) why doesnt it save a few million starving folk in africa.... it is cruel to its own children.. no god should be worshipped no god even if they are higher beings needs our petty worship as they can achieve things beyond our comprehension

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-25 20:12

Science is my god.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-25 21:15

>>1
For the same reason I don't believe an undetectable, microscopic, purple, chinese dragon lives within my butt.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 2:44

Because my parents are evil pagans who want to destroy you! Apparently.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 2:49

>>1
because there is no proof that god exists.

>>2, lol, if you dont fear death than go kill yourself immediately. Just because you are aware of your humanity doesnt mean that you have outgrown it. the formentioned "no proof, kay thx" is plenty. Then your opposition has to proove that god exists, which they cant, so they start to use terms like "faith" and "soul". Then they are very easy to emotionally cripple/ be made to look like a fool.

Play chess =D

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 2:52

People idolize over your mom because she acts like a guy. You ever wish you could have a girl as a friend, just to hang out with like one of the guys?  A girl that would have the same interests as you, the same enthusiasm, the same keen observations and sense of adventure?  How about a girlfriend that you could just hang out with, have fun with, and not have to listen to her whine and complain and leak.   Your mom is that ideal "hang out with" girl.  She has fans because she has all the best traits of a guy friend you can hang out with, only she happens to be a girl.  Understand that when people idolize over your mom, they idolize over the personality of a cool guy friend in a girl's body- an ideal friend/partner who has the best of both worlds, and would be nearly impossible to find.     

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 2:55

Protip human kind nearly 300,000
earth=3,650,000,000 years
universe=70,000,000,000 years*
Good created human as is own images and since humans has barely 300,000 years in the earth
The human god dosent exist and is not in any way the creator of the universe, earth or anything

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 3:23

fags who need to categorize themselves are doomed to be faggots

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 3:25

>>9 That logic FAILS just as hard as the "...IT HAD TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE!!!" logic that christians use.

Until there is proof that god exists, I will not believe he exists. You cannot "disproove" the existance of god because there was never any proof to begin with.

It is a waste to devote your live to an idea that has no basis, no bearing, no proof, and no point. God was created to plug gaps in scientific understanding; just look at the ancient greeks and their gods.

TRUE PROTIP: When arguing with a christian, use very simple arguments. It is tempting to try to swiftly "destroy" their idealogy, like in >>9's post, but that wont work, as these people are incredibly ignorant and fancy themselfs martyrs. The best thing to do is get them to say why they beleive their bullshit, and pick them apart from there. Attacking one idiot is easier than attacking them all.

1. There is no proof that god exists.
2. We cannot verify that what the bible states is fact.

If you are in debate club/ forensics/ your parents are chatholic/ you know alot of ignorant retards, I suggest you check out this link. http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp

Name: lol! !qD8Dfxzor. 2006-08-26 3:50

hi guys.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 3:50

>>7

is a faggot

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 4:00

>>11 We cannot verify that what the bible states is fact.

Not only that, we can show it for what it really is (A bad mishmash of collected mythologies that sucks, with no real plot structure etc...) as well as actually disprove it, and show contradictions within it that can only be explained by mental gymnastics.

Name: Chris Chin 2006-08-26 6:12

Hay guys, I'm Chris Chin, and I say dat da fact that yu and universe exist, arone, iz a proof dat God exist !

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 6:20

I am a firm beliver that the negroid is not allowed into the kingdom of heabven

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 6:49

What prove do you need to proves that god exist ?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 6:53

>>16
And I'm a firm believer in Nutella.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 7:04

well i am God

i believe in myself

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 9:23

>>9

The Earth is 4.6 billion years old.
The Universe is 13-14 billion years old. (13.7 possibly)
Our species is around 3 million years old.

The nature of religion is such, that you cannot prove or disprove the existance of god, therefore shut the fuck up about it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 9:47

>>20

you cant prove anything

maybe the earth was rigged to look 4.6 bill years old

HOW ABOUT THAT

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 9:58

Since haruhi came to existance, God has lost his popularity, everyone prefers Haruhi and converted to haruhiism, that is why christinatiy failed.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 10:20

>>22
What's haruhi?  Chickens?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 16:37

I believe that it's perfectly possible for a God to exist.  Just because someone doesn't believe in your god doesn't mean they don't believe in any god, you egotistical jackass.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 18:39

i always though that if god created everything, all the other animals would praise him, like if a dog (or any other animal) would enter a church and see god cruxified he would sit, and stay there quiet, watching the god that died for him; so i feel that although were the only "thinking" species, we're the only stupid that praise a figure

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 19:30

Everything about the world proves there is no god, and that if there is, he's a dick.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 20:07

Father says to his son and daughter "There is a poisonous apple on the counter, do not eat it, it will kill you."

Whoever heard of something so ridiculous? Why would any "caring" and "loving" parent leave something lethal for them to eat, even WITH a warning? As a "test"? Okay, let's say they're adults in their ability to reason in comparison to God. Why choose to test them? In order to prove something? Eventually someone would have tried that figurative apple. Then once they do, who pays for it? That person/group only, right? Wrong, Adam and Eve ate it and their children paid.

Does this make sense? "Eat this apple and everyone who you give birth to will be defective and suffer and die." What's the meaning behind something so cruel?

If you say it's not cruel and we could just as easily eat poison nowadays and suffer the consequences, then who PUT this poison there in the first place?

TL;DR version No matter how you look at it, God punished his creations and all their children. No matter what on earth a person does to you you don't make their children suffer so much for it. Add in the question about why animals suffer as well since they have nothing to do with our choices as humans.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 20:12

Read through the Old Testament.  God is not perfect, loving, or benevolent.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 20:24

>>28
Love is one of his four main qualities, yet I can't see why they say that.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 20:50

>>27
Christianity has just been PWNT!

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 21:14

>>30
Not really.  It's an ancient argument.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 21:15

>>1
I read the bible.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 21:45

I've just never felt any logical reason to believe in a god. Hell, it's really kind of irrational to believe. To believe in god is a stop-gap measure to explain anything that you don't understand. I tell my friends that believe in god that "Hey, it's cool.. everyone has their own beliefs" but in reality I respect them less for it.

I'm not trying to be cocky, but "god" is a construct of man derived from the fact that we as humans have huge freaking brains and therefore the abillity to ponder our own being. Before there was science that could explain this, people needed something to answer that ponderance.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 21:50

>>31
Why do you think the argument has lasted so long then? The Christians can't refute it except with bullshit about different interpretations. Christianity loses.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 22:14

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Name: Anonymous 2006-08-26 23:23

http://www.thereisnolove.com/menu/words/nogod.html
Definitions:
God: The supreme, omnipotent, sentient being that is responsible for the creation of the universe.
Omnipotence: Limitless power and ability.
Sentience: Self-awareness and awareness of one's surroundings, along with the ability to make decisions.
Paradox: A situation in which logic is rendered impotent by its own rules.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 0:30

Do I belive that there is a god? not really, such a thing just sounds ridiculous.

I've read the Bible, well as much as i could stand anyway, and it is so full of inconsistencysit makes my head hurt.

Some things I noticed about your so called religion:
#1 Think back to 1st grade english and then look at the word "Bible", if I remember right a vowel is only Long if another vowel follows it or is atleast 1 consonant to the right. If that's true then the word "Bible" is pronounced
"Bib-le" and not "Buy-ble". you don't even know how to pronounce your own rulebook.

#2 Adam&Eve, oh my ... the story is just horrible and most of it goes against what you christians preach about in the first place. first Adam and Eve are naked in a jungle paradise with all of the animals, sounds like the makings of a beastiality film to me. Adam and Eve also only had 2 sons (as far as i know) Kain and Able, ok if we are all decended from these two then someone had to bone their mom and thats incest and wrong. people laugh at this like its a joke yet its the fucking truth.

#3 good old Jesus, he died for my sins...so I can get away with anything really and go to heaven because he died 2000+ years ago? you christians are nuts.

#4 Moses, ok god gets pissed and floods the earth, only moses and his family survive in a giant boat, all other humans are wiped out. For us to be here, again someone had to commit incest.

#5 the biggest reason I don't believe in ANY god or Deity is there is no physical proof of something like that existing, having faith in something or someone like that is like stepping off of a cliff and having faith that you're not going to fall to your death.

In closing there are so many religions and no matter which one you follow you're going to hell, so say all of the other religions. And people have fought over their religion for countless centurys, something that has caused that much innocent bloodshed can't possible be any good. So for me I'll live by man's laws and let every religion fight it out, last one standing is bound to be the correct one.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 0:46

I believe in a Creator...but I also believe the Bible is full of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 2:15

>>37
#1, lol, exceptions to spelling and pronunciation in MY english?

#2 and #4: This makes me wonder as well. Someone had to bonk their mom yet it's against the bible to do so. Break your own rules whenever it seems convenient? Great way to make yourself sound untrustworthy.

#5 though, there could be higher beings, or aliens for all we know. We just see no evidence of them coming anywhere near us, or having any influence over us.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 3:51

I believe in altana. She created us from her divine tears.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 4:16

>>40
Is that like the emo godDESU? "I cried thus the world was born, boo hoo, now we can all cry together."

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 4:56

>>41 it's worse than emo, it's ffxi.







long ago, there were gods. They did godly shit, and eventually got bored, and went to sleep. Then along came Zilart (they're like regular humans, but with TATTOOS!). They became really advanced, and eventually tried to use their technology to open the gate of the gods, and go the realm where the gods lie, which they(the zilart) called Paradise.


Now, this pisses the gods off, so they kill the zilart. In actuality, the technology would've destroyed the world, so the descendants of Zilart, the Kuluu decide to sabotage it (kuluu are like zilart, except they don't have telepathic powers.)

Now, because of the sabotage, there's a huge backup in the crystal powerline (think the mother of all toilet clogs) and most of the zilart are killed, and the kuluus are morphed into hideous beings by the explosion.

Seeing the destruction on the land, the goddess altana cried on the Batallia Downs, and from her five tears the races of Vana'diel were born. Seeing this, the god Promathia, being all chainy and angsty and emo and shit got pissed, and used the weaknesses of each race to create their enemies, the beastmen.

Well people and beastmen have been at war ever since, if you want to read more into the story, go to a website called History of Vana'diel, and remember- you're a fag.












although ffxi has a better story than the bible lol.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 14:46

>>42
I, in fact, lol'd at that.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 15:48

>>1
assuming you're not trolling

I do not suscribe to christianity because it includes way too many things that I find unbelievable.

To me the bible is not different from stories and legends in that it carries wisdom and is an important human heritage but should not be taken at face value.

Christianity is spirituality, yet it is politics.

The interpretation of christianity that I often see borders  on superstition. Worried about the afterlife? Believe in god and you will be saved. Life-threatening condition? Pray. That is not acceptable to me.

Soothsaying? I do not think that the apocalypse is coming in this lifetime or the next. It certainly isn't coming because hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.

Christianity offers a set of absolutes in a world filled with temporality. It changes yet christianity does not offer to correct for it.

It is self-righteouness. Our denomination is superior to all others. My world view is not nearly narrow enough to even start to believe that.

I disagree with about all the Church's (whichever we're talking about) views on sex.

I know governments can be run without religiosity.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 15:51

>>44
continued

Lastly I believe in doing good things for their intrinsic value, not because someone is watching.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-27 19:47

Anonymous, you are a man of many religions! Why do you fight against yourself?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 1:54

>>46
I am legion

Name: Inigo Montoya 2006-08-28 1:55

>>46
Because you killed my father.  Prepare to die.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 14:29

GOD IS DEAD

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 15:06

"NIETZSCHE IS DEAD"

               -GOD

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 15:20

DSFARGEG

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 15:58 (sage)

tl;dr

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-28 16:36

fake

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Name: Anonymous 2012-05-29 0:52

>>54
Nigger.

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