The Theory of Love

Alright, I've been told numerous times that love is indescribable. In a worldly sense, I believe love is a false ideology, mainly because of all these nymphomaniacs, rapists, etc. I may seem pessimistic, but that is what I believe. The world is so corrupted and plagued by such primitive beings who indulge in sex and such. Those who marry for money and a great sex life, not for companionship or devoted trust to ones spouse. From a pyschological perspective, these traits defines males and females, as well as from my point of view. Males: Possesive, arrogant and chauvanistic, and at times deceptive. Females: Majority of the time deceptive; greedy. Love is but a simple fragment in this world. It holds no true value, because people fail to recognize it and act on it. They just care about themselves. Their own indulgences. I'm asexual because of these very same reasons and more. Relationships, sex, and marriage ALWAYS lead to problems, and the majority of the time, divorce ensues or maybe even death. I deny my primitive "instincts" and think out of the box instead of the "normal" individual. Why bother when one can avoid these unecessary anamolies? Lust is usually dominant. Love is underminded, thrown out. It usually about sex. I have plenty of other reasons why I do not like either gender as well. Males: AIDS, STDS, immoral, societal rejection. Females: deception, STDS. I supress my hormones. I reject their lustful manipulation. And I'm not insinuating that love does not exist, only that it's presence is but a fragment in the world, and in the hearts of humanity. This is my theory. Opinions?

That is not a theory.

What kind of critter are ya?

>>1

i love you.

>>1
What the fuck kid, sex is the best thing ever

>>1 win, >>5 loose.

Well at least someone has been listening to me here, want to get together, not in a gay/relationship/love way, but to chill around being cooler than everyone else. We can lob insults over the heads of all the breeders we see, it would be lots of fun as just like on the internet, trolling in real life is better with a like minded comrade.

i got ants in my pants and i need to dance.

love is idealistic bullshit.

I take it you've never really asked anyone who's been in love besides those who got dumped 9 times at 15 years old and still heard "I love you" 8 of those times before it happened.

Try asking some older people who aren't young, hormone enraged teens. Also skip the ones who got divorced 3 times already at 30. Despite how that is the majority today, that's not all there is.

Take someone I know. She may get pissed off at times, jealous and feel despressed about shit sometimes (her dad regularily raped her) but she decided to be different from this hellish world. She's warm, caring and devoted. Picture the most trusted friend you could have, one that would give up anything in their day for you, someone who shares your same goals in life and is always there when you need them, happily.

She was damn horny for the first couple of years and that was all cool, but at the same time she supports me in what I need to do, fights for me and with me, and even looks after my physical well being when I'm in too much pain to walk. (I go to doctors nearly every week).

Denying your physical desires is a great idea at first. We never did anything at the start until we decided to stay together. It gave her and myself a chance to prove our friendship was based on something else.

So you're mostly right. Hormones suck. But love is not indescribable. It's just the level beyond the trust and confidence you have in a normal friend.

>>10
Sounds like nice guy syndrome to me.

>>1
Now I was in love recently. I had managed to avoid all these realtionships and hormones, as I did see them to be a waste of my time. I instead found one really great girl and thought the world of her but never told her, she was my silent motivation. But as human beings, with some sort of soul they say, we need to believe in this thing called love because it gives up hope.

Now many people on these boards have never experienced even simple lust, so they rage out against the whole thing in some attempt at not caring? How many have fallen in love, and gotten hurt for it?

Though I always had that great chick in my mind, she ws simply there for motivation, an unobtainable dream. I always said that if I ever fell in love with someone else, I would remove all the mental sort of investment I put in her, and put all of it on the line with my new love. I did. She broke up with me March 31st, it sucked ass.

What happened was that I loved this girl, and was very willing to spend the rest of my life with her, but she told me that she just didn't love me. Now there is no way for me to know if that was all there was too it, but I hope to god it is.

After all that, I am supposed to be bitter and sarcastic to love, say things like "LOVE?!?! THAT'S BULLSHIT!", and while I have been bitter, I haven't gone that far yet. Love is something that everyone wants to attain, it makes you feel good, feel special, and it brings out qualities you never knew you had.

By "Surpressing" yourself, you are being a coward and not taking a chance, sure you will prolly get hurt, but it's the game. Just play smart.

>>10
Heh. Even couples who have been together for many a year eventually break up due to some "cirumstance", so I do not think it is as simple as you may imply it to be, which is most unfortunate. Human beings are too primitive to realize their corruption, and love is the same. They indulge in it, they do not care for one another. It's usually a "sex" relationship, not an actual emotional placement. Besides, marriage/relationships spawn various problems, especially if you have someone who is irrational or deceptive, or even lustful. Love is just a deceptive tool used to weave ones web around another unsuspecting individual. That's my philosophy, and I will stay true to it until true evidence of "true" love is this forsaken world is provided.

>>12
You will obviously say the very same things previous individuals have said. "You're too young to understand". I'm 15(16 next year) and understand perfectly. "Experience is not necessary in this case obviously. In Junior High, I was just as every other idiotic "normal" person. One who was manipulated by some things my peers were interested in, relationships. But since I grew more mature once High School came around, I came to my senses, and used my reasoning to do what was right. Simply have nothing to do with the lustful ambitious tendencies of sex and hormones. Just renounce them all, and stay morally adept instead of my primitive, instinctive peers who grew corrupt. There are four things in this world I do not believe in. Religion, government, race and love. I have studied these various categories thoroughly, and have proposed validated conclusions and reasons. As with love, corruption inevitably ensues. I detest corruption, and avoid it, such as love, as the numerous problems associated with it. I am an adolescent philosopher with a devoted intellect and prestige. I strive to avoid the wrongs of humanity, and do the right. I analyze the actions of humanity and conclude on the best course of action. I may seem a bit pyschotic, but I am perfectly stable in my mentality. I believe that humanity and it's constant corruption would better off to be erradicated, so that this world will no longer suffer, and us to shall no longer have to suffer the corruption we have dealt ourselves. I know that you think, "oh, that's human nature. It's "natural". It's only natural because humans wish to act in such a way, a corrupt and destructive way. We have wars, we indulge in pleasure, and we do as we please. Humanity should be destroyed. Logistics are also a part of the enigmatic mind.

I meant next month for age sixteen. A typical error of mine, typos.

I don't believe in love either.

Only stupid breeders will say you are manic for wanting all of their stupid asses removed from existance. They are a hinderance on the true goal of humanity, love and sex both work to bring this hinderance to a ridiculous and scary level. Worry not for what they would ever think of you >>14, because deep down, they wish they had the strength to overcome such things like you yourself are able to.

>>1

Man, you see it in a wrong way! It's true that love and relationships bring out many problems, but tell me just one point in life where you'll never have any problems?
Avoiding love is stupid. You may want to avoid problems, but you will avoid the good things as well. I think that love with all of its problems worth the struggle. Anyway, you can't improve if you don't suffer.
It's sad that the majority of today's youth have gone corrupt and only think about sex, but be glad that you are not one of them.
Beleive me, there still are people who think that love is more important than sex. Like me for example. I was together with my girlfriend for 10 months, and we never had sex. And not because we wasn't motivated for it, simply because it was a love relationship and we were "satisfied" by just being together.
The problem was that over time, I felt a stronger emotion for her than she had for me, and later the situation became like that I wasn't important for her anymore. But anyway that was true love.
And to state it clear, I'm no adolecent boy with overflowing hormones. I'm 23.

Anyway, sex is a piece of life, and in a harmonic relationship it could be the strongest thread between the two. It's just that you mustnt place it over love and other things. I think that if you just chase for sex for your own pleasure and don't care about others, now that's very bad...

Love leads to problems, but I don't think that it should not exist, just not be all about sex, and be more deep.
Like the love that we have for each other individual, thinking of what to do to get the society thinking and not just absorving thoughts.

>>19
Yes. Love DOES exist, you just need to see and find it.

And sex is a part of life but it's not what life is all about.

>>1
yeah, i said the same thing when i was sixteen too. don't worry, it's just a phase, you'll grow out of it

Love between men and women doesn't work very well. Too much differences. Women are for breeding and manlove is the way to go.

>>14
>>20
Love does exist, Love is only want you call chemical reaction towards one you want to spend your time with and raise your children with. Or simple impregnate so your pitiful gense can live on Thas love fo you.

>>23
Wrong. Love is not tied to reproduction. Love is just very strong friendship. It's not even necessarily sexual although often it is.

>>23
Heh. That's the thing. Love "is" just a simple emotion. An emotion brought on by chemical reactions in the body. Stimulation for pleasure and bonding. Oxtocins in the body fill a person with passion and bonding of another. Sooner or later that passion and bond ends due to decrease of Oxytocin. Love is truly nothing, just a simple reaction. A primitive reaction that intices one to lust, or "love". Love doesn't last either. It corrudes just as the body does, and becomes nonexistent. Once that "feeling" and attachment fades away, couples have problems.

>>11
Nice guy syndrome, yup. Good thing some girls actually like being treated like a princess. I don't see many like that though.
>>12 she was my silent motivation.
Absolutely. That has worked for me too over the years. That's why I say love is just like a higher level of trust and friendship.
>>12 How many have fallen in love, and gotten hurt for it?
Never got hurt by it. Only 13 year olds and fools get "hurt" by trusting and believing in their real friends. If a "friend" or girlfriend or whatever proves they are not trustworthy they are not your "friend" any longer. It's their loss, not yours. THEY ruined the friendship. You can't be sad you lost a total bitch as a friend, and if she turns out to be one, then your incorrect assumption was just that--wrong. Rational, logical thinking will understand that a bad friend is no friend at all. Feelings and hormones don't care, that's why they are worthless.

Feelings drive you to feel attracted to someone you can't trust, or even go so far as to "love" someone you hate. We've heard that, right? It's hormones, brain stuff, whatever. Trust is not based on feelings, it's based on logic and experience.

>>12 Love is something that everyone wants to attain, it makes you feel good, feel special, and it brings out qualities you never knew you had.
True on most accounts. It is "special" only in the sense that it's rare and basically a show of the best of humanity. It does make you "feel" great, but again, if that feeling can't be backed up with logical, cold hard facts, forget it. And yeah, it does make you do things you never thought you could before. That's why I quoted the motivation line. A good friend is a strong motivation to do good for them. It only makes sense to repay good with good. Notice how it's all logical?

>>13
Hell yeah, you're right on all of that. Relationships are mostly based on sexual attraction and irrational feelings at first. That's why only couples who have been together for a long time are my source of advice. They always simplify it to a solid friendship, a tried and tested one. All friends/couples will fight and argue and disagree. So saying that love is bad because those things happen is like saying friends are bad. Love is a deeper sense of friendship, basically a permanent one. And yes, that causes a lot of problems. I have to admit to the difficulties involved to being married. But because I can raise a family and have someone who works together with me, for the same goals, I find it well worth it. (get permanently involved with anyone and you will learn their flaws and see their worst sides).

It's insanely hard to find the right person, your odds in America are worse than 50/50. You know why? 50% of marriages end, but they might get divored more than 2 or 3 times in their life, so that's 3 failures, not just one. And think about too, how many stay together for the sake of their kids or some other excuse? Only 50% end. More than that stay together unhappily. So your chances are more like 20% to be happily married.

>>18
If I understood correctly, you decided to stay together, and to leave, mutually, correct? That's the right way to do it--the mature way. Just because 80% of people have sex, get married or date someone just for hormones doesn't mean they're doing it right. Hell, think about the fact that most marriages will end or  be unhappy, that means even those are bad examples.

So >>1, you can DEFINITELY learn a lot by watching other people. I applaud your efforts to stand back, but don't give up on finding a truly trustworthy friend, despite the difficulties. Ask any parent who takes good care of their kids, they'll tell you it's the hardest thing in life but the most rewarding. And who knows, you might get lucky and meet someone awesome like I did, just by random dumb luck.

>>26
I never said you could not trust someone. I was just stating that it's better not to trust anyone so that you will not be misfortunate. I've many friends, but I only trust one particular person, because I know him inside out. He is devoid of malice, and is a great friend.

Love is a fucking complex thing which can't be explained in a couple of words. There are also many differents kinds of love. Also, love =! attraction. I'm attracted to most of the girls I see, do I love them? Nooooo. Love can leave you bitter pretty quick, but hell, the 'sweet' isn't as sweet without the 'bitter'.

I also have some major problem right now (http://dis.4chan.org/lounge/#1147041391), but outside of the thoughtfull/emo periods, doing something for someone you love fullfills you with so much satisfaction that you don't even want to attempt to get bitter/sarcastic. Love is great, but so, so hard to attain...

>>28
I suggest you read my first post to this topic. I said that love is not nonexistent, but only a fragment in this world. "Love" is a rare case. Love does exist, but it is rare. Like I said, it's usually just used as a tool for the lustful ambitions of others. Yes, sex does not matter in a true relationship, or one that many describe as true love. In a true sense of love, which some believe, companionship, having someone to be close to, is the true form. Yet, sex is entirely involved the majority of the time. My opinion may seem a bit contradictory, since I know both the negative and positive aspects of love. Most of which being negative, obviously. When I have an opinion, it's usually a yes-no opinion, like Religion and government. Like I believe that anarchy should be enacted, human beings should be capable of leading themselves living in harmony. But primal instinct strays humanity from this path. That is why we need government for enacting the law, and disdaining chaos, yet a democracy still leads to it, as well as any other government. Ergo, the yes-no opinion. But when it comes to "love", I am on an entirely different scale. Yes, I believe that love is realistic, but it is only a fragment in this world. A simple ideology. Evidently, it usually disdains from this "true" path and hurls down the one of corruption. Lust, chauvinism, hatred, death, and despair. This is what it truly leads to. And no, my life has not changed. I still as you say, "cold", and disdainful of a so-called love. Human beings use their instinct when it comes to "love", not their reason. That's why there are all these nymphomaniacs running rampant. Those, that devolve into the most disgusting and intolerable beings. The rapists, pedophiles and sadists(sexual torture). The beings society deems unworthy of life or mercy. This devolution occurs through "lust", or through a scientific perspective, imbalanced chemicals I suppose.

>>29
 Aye, lust of pleasure can turn a man into something that society deems unworthy, but so can lust for life.

Reason, logic, truth, they are all so very relative. At one point in time, everyone knew the Earth was flat, they had cold logic, obvious reasons, and they knew it was the truth. Only by their own greed, did they discover what more there is to the world, and so things became as they are today.

We can put human beings in the category of horrid creatures, but it does not settle anything, nor does it make you any different. You can forsake love, call it illogical, useless, and based on all the wrong reasons, or ending with corruption, but if it is never explored then we will never understand.

Right now, some 14 year old girl is crying because she lost her boyfriend. She said that she loved him, but she was just being childish and immature. Right now another girl is crying, but she was more foolish than the previous one, not because her feelings were false, but because they were true, she did love him... and now she suffers for it. A fool, but a true person.

In order to truely bring order to choas, life to death, peace to despair, you must not simply say you know both end of the spectrum, you must feel them. It is easier to banish humanity as worthless and hate it, than it is to try and help it change.

So go on and truely prove your worth, those of you who say that mankind is worthless and doomed. Go out there and do your part, that it may not be entirely worthless.

>So go on and truely prove your worth, those of you who say that mankind is worthless and doomed. Go out there and do your part, that it may not be entirely worthless.

You do realize this means killing people, right? Right?

>>31

Heh, part of my point was that it would be more difficult, and you would in fact be better if you helped them out with advice and direction. Give them the truths of the world, try to see if they might be more than just simple beasts, tis the real test not just for them, but for you.

They'll always be beasts and always be set in their ways, no matter how much actual logic and truth you serve to them on a silver platter (which they don't deserve but will still of course bat it away in the idea that they are correct, due to the fact the number of breeders exceeds the number of intelligent life. "lololol because everyone does it and tells us it is rightm, it must be so" fucking wastes of space time and minds), they are ingrate fucks and their only fate in the face of eventuality is death in any case, so one might as well bring them to their goal as soon as possible.

>>33

Sure, but bringing them to their goal without letting them know why is useless. If a man wrongs you, so you let him meet death with a sniper round, or a stab in the back, he will die... but will he understand why? Shouldn't someone be there, to explain after he wronged you, that he wronged you, and if he is unable to repent, then he should gladly accept the consequences? Now what he does after that point it up to him, but suffice to say he will of died hearing the reason, perhaps not understanding, but hearing none the less.

Please though folks, we digress from our points of love.

I was in love, I got hurt. I am so happy though, that I got to expierence that feeling though, for it brought things out of me of which I never knew. I learned about myself, I learned about people, and I learned a little more about the world.

Now given, afterward I fell and hit the ground pretty hard, but by doing so, I will be able to rise even farther than before, for now I have expierence to back up all my theories. Some pains you must face if you want to become stronger. You can do a work out and be sore, so in an effort never to be sore again you don't work out, but then how will you become stronger? Some pains are not only inevitable, but also helpful. Learn folks, not just through the works of another or even your own thoughts, but by going out and living.

Well, this is what I established about 4-5 months ago.

My opinion of the world…

The world is a dark wasteland. One engulfed by deception and despair. Paranoia is constant and the turmoil of the land is infinite. Human beings are inexplicitly weak. They indulge themselves is the pleasures of the world with their deceptively complacent life styles.

Life is barren. Hatred in concealed within the soul, but is usually unleashed as a hail of merciless abuse. I think only of the negative aspects of the world, for the malicious intent is much higher than the benevolent characteristics. I do not “worry” about my brethren. I only think of what they do because they ARE my brethren. The same life form. All in correlation  with flexibility of emotions and behavior. Chaos dominates the land. The world. Even the universe. The multi-verse is full of various things, hatred being one of which. From a philosophical perspective, I know how the world is (yet my father thinks otherwise), which is deprived of any sense of virtue. Only the fragments of hope instilled within few people. Either individually, or those collectively in a religious sect.

Love is supposedly a benevolent and gratifying emotion. Yet, love in this world is a comical joke. Love conceals lust. Lust is the true, deceptive form of love. The whole world writhes with this thought. Human beings do not “love” one another. They wish only for gratification. Impeccable pleasure. From a worldly outlook, this speculation is highly accurate. Love is comprised of three components. Passion, commitment and infatuation. A true love that is difficult to attain.

Religion is the major source of spite. An individuals “opinion” is the dominating factor. Various Religions dislike one another due to their principles or opinions of one another. I highly disapprove of Religion because of this. The only thing I believe in is God; nothing more or less. The destructive properties of one’s opinion can be devious.

Well, from analyzing this information you may come to the conclusion that I am an enigma, or that I am problematic. That prediction is obvious though, and I myself occasionally think I am insane in this corrupted world at times. My sympathy for my fellow brethren has been eradicated, with the exception of my comrades. My loyalty does not waver. 

Partial on the theory of love, but I'll construct an actual one on that sometime soon. I've recently been busy with English reports. x.x

For the whole hilarious thread, go here http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1145500944/

For the longest time I thought the same as you. But be careful, you will end up ruining yourself phyically mentally like I have. Does love really matter? Does life itself really matter? Do what you want if it makes you happy... Just remember that you're no different than the person that chooses to be in a relationship for whatever reason, and that you will both end up dead and forgotten at one point. So do whatever it takes to enjoy life while you still can.

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