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How do I learn Linux

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-28 20:22

For one who has never touched Linux, how do you learn and how long does it take to become comfortable?

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-28 20:42

Just install it. It's not some exotic thing you have to study for. Just install it and use it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-28 21:27

>>2

Bwahahahaha!

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-28 23:40

i suggest first trying out some live cd distributions.  knoppix is a good one.  these run completely in ram off the cd, and will help you get a feel for the operating system and choose which distribution to install when you get to that point.  also, there are numerous places on the internet to help you along, with varying degrees of newb-friendliness. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 1:19

>>1
It depends. Like any system, it will take several years for you to be a whiz, zipping around doing stuff.

Many people probably learned it the same way (like I did); by installing over and over and practicing all the time. You'll find new things you want to do and you'll figure them out.

Hardware support can be frustrating, but in general, it's as good as the coders can get with the limited information available.

While it's a simple answer, >>2 is right. Just install it and play around. Break your machine. Reinstall.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 2:31

>>2
I lol'd thanks to your big sense of humour, good sir.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 3:02

>>5
>Many people probably learned it the same way (like I did); by installing over and over and practicing all the time. You'll find new things you want to do and you'll figure them out.

I've used it since 98, and I basically agree with this, except I'd mention the additional step of reading HOWTOS, FAQS and googling.

You'll fuck shit up, and you'll put it back together again; I had fun with this for a few years and now I can go months without thinking about what OS I use.

It's not that hard, but it is frustrating at times and you do have to read shit. Hell, if you grab knoppix and confine yourself to KDE you may not, on the other hand.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 3:36

write your own distro.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 3:56

I've heard gaming sucks on Linux. The answer, from what I've read is to get a dual-boot system to use Windows to run games. How easy is this to do?

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 4:39

>>9
Gaming sucks on Linux because:
- How do I ran Quake 3? There are almost no games.
- There's mediocre driver support from nVidia which is outstanding by Linux standards, and like no support from ATi.
- Linux generally sucks for sound, and don't get me started on the flaky drivers.
- Linux isn't exactly the best for gaming for a number of reasons and I don't know if performance will be that great.
- I don't know if they can use the newest GPU features with OpenGL from Linux, maybe they can, maybe not.
- Everything is a mess and you have to hack your way to do everything. Gamers can't do this, so companies won't bother.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 7:02

>>10
Your troll would have worked better if you hadn't used Quake 3 as an example of a game that isn't available for Linux. PROTIP: everything that id churns out gets ported to Linux, and eventually released under the GPL.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 7:33 (sage)

>>11
(I think he meant that Quake 3 is the only game available)

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 7:41 (sage)

>>12
(Then it still doesn't work well because there are also Quake 1 2 and 4, Doom 1 2 and 3, Unreal Tournament 1, 2003, 2004, Neverwinter Nights, Tribes 2, Alpha Centauri, RTCW... the list goes on.)

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 7:45

>>13
All those games suck though, except Quake and Quake II.

The only hope is Wine (Cedega is evil, like Red Hate), and I can't get much performance out of it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 7:49

>>11
It IS available for Linux, I used it because asking how do I run Quake 3 is a meme in Slashdot which means everyone's still playing Quake 3 in the absence of other games.

>>13
Wow, you've managed to list a dozen games across a decade! You're getting close to what's released for Win32 in a month!

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 8:40

>>15
Way to discredit yourself by knowing Slashdot memes.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 10:29

How is >>1 supposed to RTFM when his WiFi doesn't work?  :(

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 10:42

>>17
Should have bought a wireless device that had linux drivers.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 13:12

>>16
LOL

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 16:13

>>16 enjoy your digg!

Name: B-TRONer 2006-03-29 16:31

learning Linux is foolishness. Linux is the old way, B-TRON is the way that is modern, deep and reliable. With B-TRON the learning is not, you just know.

B-TRON is modern
B-TRON is simple
B-TRON is superiority to dead OSes

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 16:57

BeOS ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 20:01

>>22
haiku-os.org

It looks like it's still pretty beta, but if it's anything like the R5 that I tried out a year or two ago, it'll be awesome.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-29 20:55

http://www.desktopbsd.net
Built on FreeBSD; play with the included KDE as long as you want, but when you want to explore further, there's a Real Unix Descendent underneath.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 2:34

>>24
there's a Real Unix Descendent underneath.
Is this a good or a bad thing?

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 5:56

He probably means, it's better than Linux since there are no fanboys.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 5:58

>>25
either, depends on your point of view.
>>26
>it's better than Linux since there are no fanboys

not a state of affairs I expect to last for long, I'm afraid. ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 6:02

There are BSD fanboys. They're the ones who always show up in any Linux related topic to troll about Linux geeks not having girlfriends.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 6:04

>>28 talk about the pot calling the kettle black! And people wonder why I stick to XP.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 6:41

>>29
What? Winders users troll about Linux geeks having no girlfriends too.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 6:46

>>28-30
No computer users have girlfriends.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 7:53

>>31
I do

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 8:38

>>32

Not-breathing ones do not count.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 9:45 (sage)

>>1
flamebait

I lol'd

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 12:51

>>2
flamebait

I lol'd

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 21:49

>>35
LOL.

That's what I do when I see something funny online. Your post(s) did not qualify for that honor.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-30 22:29

http://asdfg.yutex.ru

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 2:36

>>37 GTFO, no one cares about your Java bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 20:54

>>2

Um, Unix based systems, especially some flavors of Linux, are NOT just plug and play. If you don't know what you are doing, You are in trouble.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 21:34

>>39
's still the best way to learn linux.  screw something up horribly.  get into trouble as a result.  don't do it again.  repeat as necessary.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 21:49

>>40

Yes, I know, I'm just putting that out there so this guy doesn't put something important on there off the break. Nothing like seeing that you just nuked your hard-drive with gigs and gigs of downloaded and alphabetized porn never to be seen again.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 23:40

>>39
zOMG i did not noe dat!!1 They're not that fucking hard to setup and/or use.

>>1
Use Gentoo.

Name: Anonymous 2006-03-31 23:58

>>42

Um, They are fucking harder than windows, and Linux is waaaaay more convoluted than what was done with OS X, believe that.

I hate windows to death but I know that it is far easier to use than Linux is. Walking into UNIX without some knowledge is asking for some trouble. One wrong command line or one necessary file out of place, say goodbye to a working os and hello to a re-install. I should know, I use a UNIX based OS.

Using Linux, or any UNIX based OS, without knowledge is like walking through a minefield without a mine detector. With knowledge, a user can own unparalleled.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-01 0:02

>>1
if you really want to learn linux, i recommend lfs  (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org).  if you can get it working, you'll know pretty much everything you'll ever /need/ to know, and be able to figure out the rest easily enough.  if you can't get it working, you'll get the opportunity to try it all over again.  fun!

of course, this assumes you have the patience to catalogue all your hardware, follow lots of instructions and compile everything from source.  if you can't stomach anything without shiny menus and someone else to do all the work, just pick a distro and install it.  they're all pretty much the same when you're just starting out.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-01 0:10

>>43
They're only harder if you're incompetant. Also, I should know as well, because I use a UNIX-based OS. I doubt this user is going for a fucking command line OS or some shit anyway, they'll probably end up with SUSe OSS or something.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-01 0:51

>>37
I hate you.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/1610/memsuck6zg.png

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-01 0:59 (sage)

>>37
>>46
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Name: Anonymous 2006-04-01 1:59

>>45

I'm comfortable on many popular OS'es, tho there's still some I want to try out like Irix. Dang SGI machines are sooo expensive...

Last I checked, lack of knowledge=incompetent. Notice, all I said was that the guy needs some knowledge before going into Linux

Definition of Incompetent:

incompetent |inˈkämpətənt; i ng-| adjective not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully

Just FYI...

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 0:50

>the guy needs some knowledge before going into Linux

Not really. Everyone I know who uses Linux (including myself) just installed it and figured things out as they went. You'd be surprised how little you really need to touch the command line when you aren't trying to do obscure things.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 16:14

>>48
Knowledge != Skills

So shut the fuck up.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 16:19

knowledge => skills

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 16:38

>>49

You CAN learn that way, it's just not efficient to do so. I mean, I don't even really need GUI if I know the command lines. Playing around with it just builds a dependacy on GUI by itself.

>>50

Fucking make me.

I happen to think that using stuff without knowing enough about it is a bad idea,  >>1 did the right thing by asking questions. I wish more people knew to read the instruction manual before using. So, don't get all pissy at me over this shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 20:13

>>52
I lol @ anger. LOL.

Also, can I have your address and a plane/bus ticket so's I can go and make you shut the fuck up?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 20:16

>>53

Give me your e-mail and you got it. But you're gonna have to pay for your own beat down, pussy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 21:00

>>54
I'm not paying for it, I just got a new 30" HD monitor and have a distinct lack of cash. <Insert second sentence of your post here.>

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 21:04

Well you can still give me your e-mail. That way, you'll still have the adress in case you find yourself in the neighbohood. It's been a looong time since somebody tried to shut me the fuck up. I can wait a little longer...

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-02 22:51 (sage)

This thread is comedy gold.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 5:29

>>52

1. make clean
2. make 52
3. ???
4. Profit!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 11:57

>>54
>>56
Who is stupid enough to put an email address on 4chan?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 12:02

>>59
moot

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 12:20

>>59
I'm not.

>>57
I aim to please :)

>>56
You could always post your address here.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 12:49

>>59

Hey, guy wants to come shut me up, I'd like to see that. I think it would be fun. I'm tired of kicking this local ass, I want something imported.

>>61

I'm not the one who asked for a home address, the other guy did. He wants my address, he needs to post his e-mail and pay for his own keg of whoops. I have the tap ready and everything. I was asked for an address, I asked for a E-Mail in return so I can give an address. If guy is too pussy to give E-Mail, it kinda ends there, with him bitching out.

Seems I must keep waiting for someone to shut me the fuck up.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 13:05

>>62
when someone from the internet finds you and shuts you up, you don't talk again pal

might not want to spit so much around here

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 13:17

>>63

I'm not hiding from anyone, Give me an E-Mail, and I'll e-mail a location to come get a free ass whooping, bullet or shank in the gut. Just that simple...

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 14:16

lol back on topic

it depends...if you are one of the pepole that can transfer all there games to gpelgl and get there nivdia drivers to install then not mutch time at all

i'd reccomend setting up a windose/linux(you'd probly like a os like xandos or fedora core 4) and see how you like it

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 15:57

>>64  Give me an E-Mail, and I'll e-mail a location to come get a free ass whooping, bullet or shank in the gut.

AROUND BLAX NEVER RELAX

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 16:05

>>66

Who said I was black? Violence is universal.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 20:30

>>67
You're still a nigger

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 21:23

>>67
Yous a nigra

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-03 21:32

>>68
>>69

Just because I'm not a pussy like you guys, I gotta be a nigga?

Well fuck you bitches then.

You want some too? Being nigga haters and all, I know you'd jump at the chance. There's plenty of free hurt to go around. You'll probably have to form a line, no pushing, everybody get's a turn.

I'll go tell the hospital and morgue to be ready to pull double shifts soon.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 3:18

>>70 INTERNET TOUGH GUY IN DA HIZZOUSE!!!1

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 4:20

>>70
IS THIS SUM VIN DIESEL?

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 4:59 (sage)

>>70
http://pictures.superzooi.com/albums/forum_fun/bat5119.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 5:05

>>70 is so obviously nigra. The facts he thinks violence is normal, wants to beat people, and gets trolled so easily prove so. No whites or black people would be this retarded.

Too bad he can't do anything about Anonymous. BIX NOOD!

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 6:17 (sage)

>>74
See >>73

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 7:35

A link to a picture posted by Anonymous on w4ch? No thanks :)

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 11:54

>>74

NO U

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 12:04

>>74

Goodness, Someone says he wants to come shut me up, I accept his challenge and I am deemed nigga for not being a craven coward and backing down like a pussy. Honetly, What has happened to my america? I never said anything about going after anyone. But if someone wants to come around here looking for trouble, I have no problem giving them any.

No wonder terrorist hate the USA so much, It's now filled with lace waering pansies that like to fag up eveything.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 12:25

>>78
No, actually, it's full of easy-to-troll niggers.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 12:45

>>79

NO U

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-04 12:48 (sage)

>>79

It's filled with both. STFU!

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