When Shinji is alone in the emergency room with Asuka after he's done calling for help from her, there is a moment were the screen pans all around the room and you hear Shinji's breath become quite rough but still low, then it shows his hand with some sort of fluid on it, personally I think that he was masturbating while Asuka was passed out, and some of the dialouge in the movie would only add substance to prove my point, but one of my friends thinks that the stuff in Shinji's hands was either tears or sweat.
Well 4chan, I wanna hear you opinions, cause really the fuck not, always good to get others opinions.
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Anonymous2005-12-28 14:40
Your friends are idiots or puritanical.
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Anonymous2005-12-29 3:45
It's pretty obvious he's masturbating. I agree with >>2, your frined is an idiot.
You can't really understand EoE unless you've seen the series. It also helps if you know that Hideki Anno, writer of both the series and EoE, got a lot of hate mail for the way he ended the series, and most of the weird and depressing shit in EoE is Hideki Anno rubbing the fans' noses in it.
"Oh, did you like Shinji? Did you respect him for struggling with his horrible and tragic life, his crippling clinical depression, then being able to fight heroically and save the day anyway? POOF! Now he fondles unconscious girls and masturbates on them, then tries to strangle them.
Oh, did you like Misato? She dies horribly. Did you hold out hope all this time that she and Shinji might have feelings for one another and be happy together? POOF! It's the world's most depressing kiss.
Oh, did you like Ritsuko? POOF! She loses her mind and goes insane, THEN dies horribly.
Asuka? Torn apart by the Mass Production Evas. Rei? POOF! She's the Angel of Death. Maya? POOF! She's a puddle of orange goo.
Did you hold out hope for some kind of comprehensible hopeful ending, since Shinji has saved the world? POOF! The world is destroyed anyway.
Suck on THAT, fans. I've got your happy ending right here."
NGE is one of the most impressive achievements in anime, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. But Gainax should have sent a few burly men to Anno's office after he finished writing episode 20, and given the project to someone else to finish. It frustrates the hell out of me. It could have been so much better than it was.
You can't really understand >>10 unless you've seen 4chan. It also helps if you know that >>10, writer of both threads and posts about NGE, got a lot of hate mail for the way he criticized the series, and most of the weird and depressing shit in his posts is >>10 rubbing 4channer's noses in it.
"Oh, did you like >>23? Did you respect him for struggling with his horrible and tragic life, his crippling clinical depression, then being able to fight heroically and save the day anyway? POOF! Now he fondles unconscious girls and masturbates on them, then tries to strangle them.
Oh, did you like >>1? She dies horribly. Did you hold out hope all this time that she and >>23 might have feelings for one another and be happy together? POOF! It's the world's most depressing kiss.
Oh, did you like >>4? POOF! She loses her mind and goes insane, THEN dies horribly.
>>7? Torn apart by the Mass Production Shiis. >>87? POOF! She's the Angel of Death. >>100? POOF! She's a puddle of orange goo.
Did you hold out hope for some kind of comprehensible hopeful ending, since >>23 has saved the world? POOF! The world is destroyed anyway.
Suck on THAT, fans. I've got your happy ending right here."
>>10's post is one of the most impressive achievements in 4chan, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. But Shii should have sent a few burly men to >>10's office after he finished writing that post and given the post to someone else to finish. It frustrates the hell out of me. It could have been so much better than it was.
Shinji is the total epitome of a /b/ poster in EoE. World gets destroyed. He laughs. Girl loses her mind and goes into a coma. He masturbates and laughs.
asuka got guro'd by the end, anyone thought about that?
>>14
in the end he proceeds to choke to death the chick he fapped to instead of raping her now that there was nothing else to do and she was unconcious.
he, my friends, is true /b/
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Anonymous2006-03-04 14:43
Why does Shinji want to choke Asuka so badly?
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Anonymous2006-03-04 18:32 (sage)
>>19
Watch the anime. I was rooting for him to strangle that shrill little bitch halfway through the first episode where she appears.
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Anonymous2006-03-04 18:34
But her mom fucking killed herself :(
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Anonymous2006-03-08 3:27 (sage)
>>21
Which makes Asuka the shrill, obnoxious, immature bitch we all simultaneously hate and feel sorry for, instead of purely hating.
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Anonymous2006-03-12 8:12
I disagree with poster 10 on the subject of taking the series away from anno. He is a great creative mind; episodes 25 and 26 are not the product of "writers block" - EoE was Anno's intended 25 and 26 (we know this because we see stills of ritsuko and misato dead in their EoE positions) - what happened was, his funding was cut. The man poured his heart and soul into the Eva project, and then his funding was cut. Look at episode 24. It leads into 25EoE just perfectly, but with funding cut---> "Wow, Shinji broke~ let us examine this for 2 episodes. 1 person can probibly draw THAT"
Fuck the Fan community to sending the guy hatemail. The people who complained about 25-26 DESERVE to see the objects of their lust brutally murdered. They were living in Anno's world; then they tried to tell Anno that "in his world; there just isnt enough Asuka fanservice"
Anno is a vengeful god. I wouldnt go as far as to say he was "fucked up in the brain" for EoE (Lilith-Rei), scenes like that are unique and memorable. EoE is torture that you suffer in the search for closure.
Accept it (10)
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Anonymous2006-03-12 12:56
EoE is a feel good apocalyptic movie.
Death and Rebirth is what I have trouble accepting. I mean, a movie clip show?
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Anonymous2006-03-12 15:13
What is the petrified angel at the end of Death and Rebirth? Why is kaoru(?) levitating at the end?
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DJR2006-03-14 12:59
What do you guys think of the ending? Theres a big arguement whether everyone in the world, cept Shinji and Asuka, is dead. Or that simply everyone is in that orbiting stream of blood/souls(?), and that eventually, they'll come back to life x_X??
But, how do you think Asuka (or obviously died horribly) and Shinji (who was inside his Eva, which is floating out in space now) end up on the that beach??, and who bandaged Asuka :P?
ahhh~ speculate 4channers, speculate.
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Anonymous2006-03-14 16:15
Everyone's consciousness is combined in the LCL except Shinji. The purpose of the Human Instrumentality Project is to destroy the separation of consciousness (individual thought). Shinji creates this, but rejects it in the end, becoming individual from the world.
But you don't know what he can do from that point on, or what Asuka's role is.
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Anonymous2006-03-15 4:22
>>23
Even if Asuka weren't jailbait, I could never stand her.
On the other hand, there can NEVAR be enough Ritsuko and/or Misato fanservice. NEVAR!!!1
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Anonymous2006-03-15 14:29 (sage)
>>26
Anno went off his antidepressants. That's what I think of the ending of EoE and that's all the explanation there will ever be.
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Anonymous2006-03-20 14:35
The moral of the story of EoE is there are poeple who'll give up their lives for nonsense.
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Anonymous2006-03-22 17:36
Wasn't the setup at EoE supposed to be an allegory to Adam and Eve?
I thought that Asuka was alive at the end and the had to reproduce to make more people. I have no idea why Shiji would choke Asuka if that was the case...
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Anonymous2006-03-23 3:44 (sage)
>>31
If you don't know why Shinji would choke Asuka, you didn't see the series.
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Anonymous2006-03-23 17:23
They don't have to mate. They could die off. Or merge back with the collective. Or explode.
>>33
Or he could just strangle her, which he should have done about fifteen episodes before that.
Asuka is a hot-looking li'l loli, if you're into that kind of thing, but she is a shrill, nasty, hateful little bitch. In the whole 18 episodes where she appears, there's hardly a scene with her and Shinji together where she isn't insulting him, bullying him, or occasionally kicking and slapping him. She's worse than Akane Tendo--Ranma Saotome is a loud-mouthed jerk who provokes what he gets, but Shinji spends 18 episodes kowtowing and cringing and walking on eggshells, hoping she'll not hurt him too badly today, but she still goes totally fucking PMS insane almost every time she sees him.
Yes, I HATE Asuka.
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Anonymous2006-03-25 19:02 (sage)
I'm a masochist like Shinji so I adore Asuka anytime.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 15:01 (sage)
Shinji isn't a masochist. He is submissive and eager to please, but he does not seem to enjoy being hurt.
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Anonymous2006-03-26 22:47
He's jerking off. Asuka even "tells" him that she knows about his fantasies about her, so he's probably done it before.
And Shinji isn't a masochist or whatever the fuck, he's a fucking pussy and a fucking coward.
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Anonymous2006-03-27 3:57 (sage)
Well, lots of teenage boys spank the monkey. Asuka does tell him that, yes, but does she actually know, or is she just guessing and trying to say the most hurtful things she can, because she's a hateful, sadistic, immature, cruel ball-busting bitch who gets off on hurting people?
Shinji is an unsympathetic character in the English dub, yes. He's whiny and sarcastic, and this is part of the reason the English dub sucks. In the subtitled version, it is easier to see that he is a complex character. He is sometimes brave and noble, and sometimes not; toward the end of the series he's rather badly fucked up, it's true. This is because he's not a two-dimensional cardboard cutout like Koji Kabuto.
English dub Shinji makes me want to strangle him. I empathize with subbed Shinji.
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Anonymous2006-03-27 16:03
I hate Shinji. And Asuka probably does know that he jerks off to her. He's not exactly subtle, always staring at her tits and her ass like she won't fucking notice.
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Anonymous2006-06-17 17:43
I think that is a bit a parody of the old testament, You know, Adam and Eve are in the begining of the "old evangelion" like shinji and asuka are in the end of the new evangelion. It's a way to say "Do you like asuka/shinji? well, this is the only way to have it. In the end of the world". Shinji is the last man in the world and asuka the last woman. They are the end of evangelion.
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Anonymous2006-06-18 0:56
>>41
>English dub Shinji makes me want to strangle him. I empathize with subbed Shinji.
What a load of bullshit.
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Anonymous2006-06-18 10:35
Ever wonder what would happen to the series/EoE if Gendo was a human being, instead of a self proclaimed bastard
in english, jacking off on a comatose body is an assholish deed. in japanese, it's just another beautiful revelation of the depth of one's own personality.