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Bitcoin ASIC

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-15 22:32

Poor genetics and savage beatings from my father have left me with a brain that only functions at 20% of the level that most people operate with. With that in mind, please use small words to explain to me the consequences that this whole ASIC thing will have on Bitcoin. Also, how many Butterfly Labs 15,000Mh/s thingies have you preordered?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-15 22:35

BAD SIN SIN SATAN NO, Small enough, you un-intellectual anthropodic pleeb?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-15 22:39

The Jews will use specially made chips that waste electricity for the sole purpose of devaluing bitcoin in order to rob Bitcoin from the Goyim as they did with gold and fiat currencies throughout the ages.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 2:57

Shit'll be crazy yo

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 3:18

None, i'm poor..
Well, bitcoin has a built-in deflation mechanism, (difficulty ramps up over time / making them harder to find -> more valuable).. the butterfly labs thing will probably work against this a little (for a chunk of money they get easier to find / small(-ish?) bitcoin surplus? -> small(? / probably temporary) drop in prices..? // bucking the trend...?!)

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 3:30

it may also be a scam.. site is offline and all

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 3:35

I don't understand what "mining" is and how it can produce money.
Anyone cares to explain ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 3:46

You mine for, well, hash function outputs with certain properties, namely a run of zeroes.. then when you find a valid one, it gets publicly announced (verified as yours) and put in your e-wallet..

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 4:21

So, you can create bitcoins out of nothing ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 4:29

>>9

Yes, just like the normal banking system can. But a bitcoin costs energy to generate. That's unlike the banking system. So at a certain moment, the cost of generating will be more than the value of the generated. Then no new bitcoins come into the economy.

This will ramp up the value of a bitcoin. That's called deflation. The early adaptors will cash their bitcoins and then to whole bitcoin economy will crash. Render them worthless.

It's like a ponzi scheme. Only really, really advanced.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 5:57

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 5:58

Sounds cool. Any idea when it will crash down ?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 6:22

the v0.7/0.8 transaction fork kind of caused one.. but it bounced back up pretty quickly..

Botnet mining

In June 2011, Symantec warned about the possibility of botnets engaging in covert "mining" of bitcoins,[61][62] consuming computing cycles, using extra electricity and possibly increasing the temperature of the computer. Later that month, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation caught an employee using the company's servers to generate Bitcoins without permission.[63] Some malware also uses the parallel processing capabilities of the GPUs built into many modern-day video cards.[64] In mid August 2011, Bitcoin miner botnets were found;[65] less than three months later bitcoin-mining trojans infecting Mac OS X were discovered.[66]

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 6:32

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 6:34

bakas, bitcoin generation costs time, energy cost is very small. also issueing real money cost the worth of paper, metal, labor of minters and the price of the factory whose only purpose (unlike your pc) is to mint

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 6:47

I'd give it 3 months to halve it's price, if it doesn't just keep rising...

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 6:55

>>15
My PC actually runs Linux Mint because I am a big fat nerd.
>>13
consuming computing cycles, using extra electricity and possibly increasing the temperature of the computer
Oh dear God!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 7:10

were you a real nerd you would use gentoo, arch, lfs, at the very end  (for lazy nerds ) debian  but not ubuntu for dummies, so ur just fat

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 7:12

>>18
Gee I wonder if I was actually posting with 100% sincerity on /prog/.
Wait
on /prog/
Guess I wasn't.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 7:12

There is a wild growth of derivatives based on bitcoins now. The operators of these devices are anonymous or they operate under a pseudonym. 

They can undermine the value of bitcoin, because the value of money is base on, at the end of the day, trust.


Look at this:

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitmarketUSD#rg360ztgMzm1g10zm2g25zv

The peek is caused by the operator, who started to use other people money to speculate. And then lost it all.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 8:09

hows that stat in the top right...
Network total    40.659 Thash/s

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 8:16

Currently, 25 bitcoins are generated with every 10-minute block. This will be halved to 12.5 BTC during the year 2017 and halved continuously every 4 years after until a hard limit of 21 million bitcoins is reached during the year 2140.[1][10]

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 8:24

>>21
soo, as few as a thousand of those 30GH/sec asic's is going to nearly double the current network power..?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 8:38

....and to the real question, can you turn an asic into a graphics card ?! ;D

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 8:40

i just checked that butterfly lab site... omg, 30000$ for a miner. in how many years will it pay itself
>>19 aww, i didnt want to offend you. i hope you actually werent sincere. im just mad at mate desktop for getting rid of nyan cat

Name: sage 2013-03-16 13:07

You faggots are going to ruin my jewish plans

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 14:48

>>24
No, it's too specialized. But you can turn it into a space heater.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 15:02

>>6
They are being DDoS-ed. Someone got that butthurted.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 15:48

>>25
~700 BTC to buy that rig, which would earn ~80 BTC per week if the hashrate went up by 10x.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 18:31

>>1
Poor genetics and savage beatings from my father have left me with a brain that only functions at 20% of the level that most people operate with.
that's okay, Nikita seems to manage just fine with 5%

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 19:19

>>30
hes an above average programmer though

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 19:21

>>31
So are 50% of all programmers.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 19:46

>>32
YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED AND YOUR IDIOCY OFFENDS ME TO NO END. I FUCKING HATE YOU.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 20:41

>>33
It's okay to be mad, Nikita

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 20:54

BTC mining difficulty adjusts itself.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 20:56

>>10
Unlike a ponzi scheme though, after the early adopters cash out, the system will still be there.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 23:56

>>36
The value will be destroyed if the hash algorithm is broken by advances in hardware. A quantum computer or a supercomputer cluster with millions of these ASICs might be able to overpower the rest of the Bitcoin community. Aluminum used to be more valuable than gold, but then a cheap process was discovered and its value collapsed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 0:02

What the fuck does mining difficulty have to with anything?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 0:08

>>38
What good would cornering the market and destroying the value do if the money is then worthless? Interesting, if it would take only 1000 of those fastest ones to out-hash the rate of the network before it wrecks everything and people stop buying, they still stand to sell $30M dollars of them.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 1:26

>>37
The value will be destroyed if the hash algorithm is broken by advances in hardware.
The information security will also be destroyed in this same event.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 10:06

this black dude I know bought some new shoes called ASICs and they is tight.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 10:16

>>37
quantum computer
Quantum doesn't mean magic, dipshit.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 12:15

>>41
Computerized shoes? The singularity is near.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-17 13:36

>>42
It might as well mean magic, since its only real use is for scaring idiots.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 2:49

2010 May 21     laszlo first to buy pizza with Bitcoins agreeing upon paying 10,000 BTC for ~$25 worth of pizza courtesy of jercos

a fucking half million dollar pizza

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 3:33

>>45
It's worth as much as two people agree to it. I would not pay hundreds of thousands for a famous painting and yet, many people would.

Name: alertbot(v0.13-r18532) 2013-03-18 20:02

BREAKING NEWS
Bitcoin just passed the USD $50 barrier, niggaz mad

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 20:28

I had 8 bitcoins, and managed to get it up to 26 bitcoins through gambling the other week. Then I lost it all.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 20:36

I sold my bitcoins for about 6 bucks each a long time ago.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 20:42

>>47
Provably because Bitcoin coin will start being regularized bye the FinCEN [1], meaning that now it's ``officially recognized'' by the US government.
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[1] - http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html

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