[IAMA] Trans-sexual

check your privilege, cis scum

So, I'm guessing that you're a dickgirl? How's the dating scene? I hear that it can be dangerous for transwomen, as some douchebags can get violent.

If I meet someone and know they are transsexual or genderqueer (e.g. from the context or setting), what is the appropriate way to find out what sex they were born as and what gender(s) they identify as (if any)?

Is there an accepted protocol? I don't want someone to feel bad because I misjudged their appearance.

>>3
Yes, ask about biological sex, and about what gender they identify as.

>>3
Just avoid those freaks.

evywun wunts 2 b da kool comptabiel, interestin' sociable doggy

>>1
privilege
Fuck off with your idiotic blame-inducing abstraction, cretin.

>>6
you mean kitty. on the other hand kitties aren't very sociable

speaking of those persons, atm it's impossible to change sex, that surgery is basically mutilating yourself

what's the point of changing sex or gender for that matter? gender is shit.

>>9
consider it a personal preference
do you forbid people to have personal preferences?

Seriously, why do people consider trannies to be mentally ill? Sure, some could be, maybe more than the average. Normies seem to think there's something intrinsic to the desire to change gender that qualifies as mental illness. Of course we know there is no such thing, unless a passion for the status quo and obedience to authority is the definition of healthy behavior.

>obedience to authority is the definition of healthy behavior

omg, trannies are freedom fighters now.

also the only wrong thing about is, as i have said, it's just self mutialtion or disguise at best. basically trannies want impossible, may be it will be possible later but now it is impossible. desiring for impossible make mark a person as a mentally ill, it always was so

>>10
no, but I still don't understand it.

>>12
desiring for impossible make mark a person as a mentally ill
wrong. holding two logically contradictory beliefs makes a person mentally ill. a transsexual who claims they changed their sex is insane (since biological sex is impossible to change); changing one's gender, however, is totally possible, because it's all about appearance.

personally I hate appearance and superficial stuff so I don't see much point in gender, but apparently some people see something in it that I don't.

>>11
It's a mental disorder. Think about the etymology of that word. It simply means you don't meet certain social norms in a way that has a notable effect on yourself or others. This is why homosexuality was once a mental disorder, but social norms later decided it's okay.

HAVE YOU READ YOUR DSM TODAY?

>>15
Then it's an overbroad definition. It's that kind of definition that was used in pre-WWII eastern Europe to get rid of dissenters.

>>16
It's a little more involved and there's a ton of drama. Every psychiatrist I have met hates the DSM, because they all disagree with a large part of it.

The first chapters of the Manual are actually worthwhile reading, since they basically explain and justify what counts as a ``disorder''. The real problem lies in pleasing everyone, which is impossible (and they shouldn't really try).

>>15

it is a truly bad definition
it's wrong to measure mental health with social norms. in acient greece homosexuality was ok (and cross-dressing too btw) then it suddenly became mental disorder and then it again become mostly ok. i read that doctors were basically forced to claim that homosexualty isn't a disorder in any way. human psychic doesn't work that way, it is deeper than social norms

>>16

in ussr in like 60's-70's people could be placed in a madhouse for being political dissidents. obviously they didn't meet certain social norms in a way that had a notable effect on themselves or others, so, ussr authorities were completely right according to you

>>18
i read that doctors were basically forced to claim that homosexualty isn't a disorder in any way. human psychic doesn't work that way, it is deeper than social norms
``Normality'' is not well-defined. A more appropriate metric would be logical self-consistency.

ussr authorities were completely right according to you
No, I'm just arguing that they were right according to that definition, therefore the definition is shitty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_%28social%29

lol

>>17
please, define "disorder".

This thread is threadstopped. You cannot reply anymore.

>>22
nice dubz

>>22

tranny butthurt

>>20
lol well dats not reely karanteed by da standad is it?

like if u run around putting carrots in ur butt ur not goink to get undefined behavyour are u?

>>20
fuck off, ``social sciences'' faggot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_%28mathematics%29

http://www.tranchan.net/

I dated a TG for a year.  His ``privilege'' was not very big though.

let's talk about correlation of gender identity disorder and nerdy beingness. is it just a quirky manifestation of assburgers syndrome or is it something else?

>>21
please use ``faggot'' quotes!

>>29
Associated Features and Disorders

Associated descriptive features and mental disorders.
Many individuals with Gender Identity Disorder become socially isolated. Isolation and ostracism contribute to low self esteem and may lead to school aversion or dropping out of school. Peer ostracism and teasing are especially common sequelae for boys with the disorder. Boys with Gender Identity Disorder often show marked feminine mannerisms and speech patterns.

The disturbance can be so pervasive that the mental lives of some individuals revolve only around those activities that lessen gender distress. they are often preoccupied with appearance, especially early in the transition to living in the opposite sex role. Relationships with one or both parents also may be seriously impaired. Some males with Gender Identity Disorder resort to self-treatment with hormones and may very rarely perform their own castration or penectomy. especially in urban centers, some males with the disorder may engage in prostitution, which places them at a high risk for human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection. Suicide attempts and Substance-Related Disorders are commonly associated.

Children with Gender Identity Disorder may manifest coexisting Separation Anxiety Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and symptoms of depression. Adolescents are particularly at risk for depression and suicidal ideation and suicide attempts. In adults, anxiety and depressive symptoms may be present. Some adult males have a history of Transvestic Fetishism as well as other paraphilias. Associated Personality Disorders are more common among males than among females being evaluated at adult gender clinics.

Associated laboratory findings.
There is no diagnostic test specific for Gender Identity Disorder. In the presence of a normal physical examination, karyotyping for sex chromosomes and sex hormone assays are usually not indicated. Psychological testing may reveal cross-gender identification of behavior patterns.

Associated physical examination findings and general medical conditions.
Individuals with Gender Identity Disorder have normal genitalia (in contrast to the ambiguous genitalia or hypogonadism found in physical intersex conditions). Adolescents and adult males with Gender Identity Disorder may show breast enlargement resulting from hormone ingestion, hair denuding from temporary or permanent epilation, and other physical changes as a result of procedures such as rhinoplasty or thyroid cartilage shaving (surgical reduction of the Adam’s Apple). Distorted breasts or breast rashes may be seen in females who wear breast binders. Postsurgical complications in genetic females include prominent chest wall scars, and in generic males, vaginal strictures, rectovaginal fistulas, urethral stenoses, and misdirected urinary streams. Adult females with Gender Identity Disorder may have a higher than expected likelihood of polycystic ovarian disease.