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Largest prime number

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 12:50

I have been thinking for a long time, yet I cannot discover wether there is a prime number that is greater than all the others. What do you think?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 12:53

It's kinda like penes, there's always one bigger than yours.

Name: ALEPH 2012-10-20 12:58

Of course there is a largest prime. Otherwise they would be infinite, which is absurd.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:01

infinite set

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:15

>>4
As well as infinite Fermat and Mersenne's primes.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:28

tHERE ARE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF PRIMES, YOU IDIOT... lEARN TO MATH.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:31

>>6
There is no infinity you kike-brainwashed toilet scrubber.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:38

>>7
You should be able to mention the last number then.

Fuck off, fagshit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:40

>>7
There might not be an infinity, but if you give me a list of prime number I will always be able to give you one more.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:41

>>8

∞ - 1

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 13:50

>>10
There is no infinity
You're not helping >>8-kun like that

Name: >>11 2012-10-20 13:50

I meant >>7-kun

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:05

prime numbers are as great as infinity

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:07

I know the largest prime, but you've probably never heard of it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:07

ONE WORD: THE FORCED FINITIZATION OF MATHEMATICS, THREAD OVER.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:46

>>8
It depends on the domain in which the numbers are being used. Infinity is bullshit spewed by idiots who are of a long line of idiots who go all the way back to the mathematical realism told by the pederast Plato. There is no unifying property of math that are true in every domain, much less a universal property that can be used to stretch forever like you retards believe. If you are working on a 32 bit computer architecture, then the highest number is 2^32. If you are using software to represent them, then the highest number is the highest number you can get without running out of memory. If you are doing physics, then the highest temperature is that which can be reached before the matter is reduced to pure energy. Even if you could keep heating it, you would run out of energy in the universe and that would be the highest number. Also in physics, the highest speed is the speed of light. It makes no sense to say 'infinite speed' because the universe would break down.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:50

66The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be the development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers99[1]

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[1] - (Gates, The Road Ahead, 1995, p. 265).

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 14:58

>>16
Z can be used to analyze Z/(2^32)Z. The lack of bounds actually make things simpler. Then theorems that hold for Z can be brought down to Z/(2^32)Z in various ways, and visa versa. There is a bridge between the two.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 15:11

>>18
fuck you jewstorm

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 15:19

>>16
you clearly don't understand the concept of infinity.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 15:38

>>20
ey has a point. Sometimes the model breaks down. But the solution is to just use an appropriate model and argue for its relevance. Then make sure all statements on the model will hold given its restrictions.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 15:54

>>21
ey
u mena ``e''

Learn your gender neutral pronouns, ``faggot''.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 15:54

there is no `model' for infinity.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 16:18

>>21
ey
It's ,,they'' you fucking piece of shit.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 16:23

Sure, ultrafinitism is retarded, but is it Abelson retarded?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 16:30

Suppose the number of primes is finite: p1, p2, ..., pk, and let n be the product of all these primes. n - 1 > pk so is not prime, so there is some i such that pi divides n - 1. Since pi also divides n, pi divides n - (n - 1) = 1, which is absurd. Thus the number of primes is infinite.
http://www.hermetic.ch/pns/proof.htm

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 16:32

>>26
Beautiful!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 18:45

>>16
Now I understand why they call her Jewkari.

You're saying everything has a lower and upper bound.

Yukari could remove the bounds, making something effectively infinite. Thus, Yukari is a Jew.

Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 18:55

>>16
It should be easy for you to tell us the biggest number, since we live in a finite world and it's absolutely true that we will never need a number greater than the biggest number you're about to tell us.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:04

43,154,247,973,881,626,
480,552,355,163,379,198,390,539,350,432,267,115,051,652,505,414,033,306,801,
376,580,911,304,513,629,318,584,665,545,269,938,257,648,835,317,902,217,334,
584,413,909,528,269,154,609,168,019,007,875,343,741,396,296,801,920,114,486,
480,902,661,414,318,443,276,980,300,066,728,104,984,095,451,588,176,077,132,
969,843,762,134,621,790,396,391,341,285,205,627,619,600,513,106,646,376,648,
615,994,236,675,486,537,480,241,964,350,295,935,168,662,363,909,047,948,347,
692,313,978,301,377,820,785,712,419,054,474,332,844,529,183,172,973,242,310,
888,265,081,321,626,469,451,077,707,812,282,829,444,775,022,680,488,057,820,
028,764,659,399,164,766,265,200,900,561,495,800,344,054,353,690,389,862,894,
061,792,872,011,120,833,614,808,447,482,913,547,328,367,277,879,565,648,307,
846,909,116,945,866,230,169,702,401,260,240,187,028,746,650,033,445,774,570,
315,431,292,996,025,187,780,790,119,375,902,863,171,084,149,642,473,378,986,
267,503,308,961,374,905,766,340,905,289,572,290,016,038,000,571,630,875,191,
373,979,555,047,468,154,333,253,474,991,046,248,132,504,516,341,796,551,470,
575,481,459,200,859,472,614,836,213,875,557,116,864,445,789,750,886,277,996,
487,304,308,450,484,223,420,629,266,518,556,024,339,339,190,844,368,921,018,
424,844,677,042,727,664,601,852,914,925,277,280,922,697,538,426,770,257,333,
928,954,401,205,465,895,610,347,658,855,386,633,902,546,289,962,132,643,282,
425,748,035,786,233,580,608,154,696,546,932,563,833,327,670,769,899,439,774,
888,526,687,278,527,451,002,963,059,146,963,875,715,425,735,534,475,979,734,
463,100,678,367,393,327,402,149,930,968,778,296,741,391,514,599,602,374,213,
629,898,720,611,431,410,402,147,238,998,090,962,818,915,890,645,693,934,483,
330,994,169,632,295,877,995,848,993,366,747,014,871,763,494,805,549,996,163,
051,541,225,403,465,297,007,721,146,231,355,704,081,493,098,663,065,733,677,
191,172,853,987,095,748,167,816,256,084,212,823,380,168,625,334,586,431,254,
034,670,806,135,273,543,270,714,478,876,861,861,983,320,777,280,644,806,691,
125,713,197,262,581,763,151,313,596,429,547,763,576,367,837,019,349,835,178,
462,144,294,960,757,190,918,054,625,114,143,666,384,189,433,852,576,452,289,
347,652,454,631,535,740,468,786,228,945,885,654,608,562,058,042,468,987,372,
436,921,445,092,315,377,698,407,168,198,376,538,237,748,614,196,207,041,548,
106,379,365,123,192,817,999,006,621,766,467,167,113,471,632,715,481,795,877,
005,382,694,393,400,403,061,700,457,691,135,349,187,874,888,923,429,349,340,
145,170,571,716,181,125,795,888,889,277,495,426,977,149,914,549,623,916,394,
014,822,985,025,331,651,511,431,278,802,009,056,808,456,506,818,877,266,609,
831,636,883,884,905,621,822,262,933,986,548,645,669,080,672,191,704,740,408,
891,349,835,685,662,428,063,231,198,520,436,826,329,415,290,752,972,798,343,
429,446,509,992,206,368,781,367,154,091,702,655,772,727,391,329,424,277,529,
349,082,600,585,884,766,523,150,957,417,077,831,910,016,168,475,685,658,673,
192,860,882,070,179,760,307,269,849,987,354,836,042,371,734,660,257,694,347,
235,506,301,744,118,874,141,292,438,958,141,549,100,609,752,216,882,230,887,
611,431,996,472,330,842,380,137,110,927,449,483,557,815,037,586,849,644,585,
749,917,772,869,926,744,218,369,621,137,675,101,083,278,543,794,081,749,094,
091,043,084,096,774,144,708,436,324,279,476,892,056,200,427,227,961,638,669,
149,805,489,831,121,244,676,399,931,955,371,484,012,886,360,748,706,479,568,
669,048,574,782,855,217,054,740,113,945,929,622,177,502,575,565,811,067,452,
201,448,981,991,968,635,965,361,551,681,273,982,740,760,138,899,638,820,318,
776,303,668,762,730,157,584,640,042,798,880,691,862,640,268,612,686,180,883,
874,939,573,818,125,022,279,689,930,267,446,255,773,959,542,469,831,637,863,
000,171,279,227,151,406,034,129,902,181,570,659,650,532,600,775,823,677,398,
182,129,087,394,449,859,182,749,999,007,223,592,423,334,567,850,671,186,568,
839,186,747,704,960,016,277,540,625,331,440,619,019,129,983,789,914,712,515,
365,200,336,057,993,508,601,678,807,687,568,562,377,857,095,255,541,304,902,
927,192,220,184,172,502,357,124,449,911,870,210,642,694,565,061,384,919,373,
474,324,503,966,267,799,038,402,386,781,686,809,962,015,879,090,586,549,423,
504,699,190,743,519,551,043,722,544,515,740,967,829,084,336,025,938,225,780,
730,880,273,855,261,551,972,044,075,620,326,780,624,448,803,490,998,232,161,
231,687,794,715,613,405,793,249,545,509,528,052,518,010,123,087,258,778,974,
115,817,048,245,588,971,438,596,754,408,081,313,438,375,502,988,726,739,523,
375,296,641,615,501,406,091,607,983,229,239,827,240,614,783,252,892,479,716,
519,936,989,519,187,808,681,221,191,641,747,710,902,480,633,491,091,704,827,
441,228,281,186,632,445,907,145,787,138,351,234,842,261,380,074,621,914,004,
818,152,386,666,043,133,344,875,067,903,582,838,283,562,688,083,236,575,482,
068,479,639,546,383,819,532,174,522,502,682,372,441,363,275,765,875,609,119,
783,653,298,312,066,708,217,149,316,773,564,340,379,289,724,393,986,744,139,
891,855,416,612,295,739,356,668,612,658,271,234,696,438,377,122,838,998,040,
199,739,078,061,443,675,415,671,078,463,404,673,702,403,777,653,478,173,367,
084,844,734,702,056,866,636,158,138,003,692,253,382,209,909,466,469,591,930,
161,626,097,920,508,742,175,670,306,505,139,542,860,750,806,159,835,357,541,
032,147,095,084,278,461,056,701,367,739,794,932,024,202,998,707,731,017,692,
582,046,210,702,212,514,120,429,322,530,431,789,616,267,047,776,115,123,597,
935,404,147,084,870,985,465,426,502,772,057,300,900,333,847,905,334,250,604,
119,503,030,001,704,002,887,892,941,404,603,345,869,926,367,501,355,094,942,
750,552,591,581,639,980,523,190,679,610,784,993,580,896,683,299,297,681,262,
442,314,008,657,033,421,868,094,551,740,506,448,829,039,207,316,711,307,695,
131,892,296,593,509,018,623,094,810,557,519,560,305,240,787,163,809,219,164,
433,754,514,863,301,000,915,916,985,856,242,176,563,624,771,328,981,678,548,
246,297,376,249,530,251,360,363,412,768,366,456,175,077,031,977,457,534,912,
806,433,176,539,995,994,343,308,118,470,147,158,712,816,149,394,421,276,614,
228,262,909,950,055,746,981,053,206,610,001,560,295,784,656,616,193,252,269,
412,026,831,159,508,949,671,513,845,195,883,217,147,982,748,879,261,851,417,
819,979,034,417,285,598,607,727,220,866,677,680,426,090,308,754,823,803,345,
446,566,305,619,241,308,374,452,754,668,143,015,487,710,877,728,011,086,004,
325,892,262,259,413,968,285,283,497,045,571,062,757,701,421,761,565,262,725,
153,407,407,625,405,149,931,989,494,459,106,414,660,534,305,378,576,709,862,
520,049,864,880,961,144,869,258,603,473,714,363,659,194,013,962,706,366,851,
389,299,692,869,491,805,172,556,818,508,298,824,954,954,815,796,063,169,517,
658,741,420,159,798,754,273,428,026,723,452,481,263,569,157,307,213,153,739,
781,041,627,653,715,078,598,504,154,797,287,663,122,946,711,348,158,529,418,
816,432,825,044,466,692,781,137,474,494,898,385,064,375,787,507,376,496,345,
148,625,306,383,391,555,145,690,087,891,955,315,994,462,944,493,235,248,817,
599,907,119,135,755,933,382,121,706,191,477,185,054,936,632,211,157,222,920,
331,148,502,487,563,303,118,018,805,685,073,569,841,580,518,118,710,778,653,
953,571,296,014,372,940,865,270,407,021,924,383,167,290,323,231,567,912,289,
419,486,240,594,039,074,452,321,678,019,381,871,219,092,155,460,768,444,573,
578,559,513,613,304,242,206,151,356,457,513,937,270,939,009,707,237,827,101,
245,853,837,678,338,161,023,397,586,854,894,230,696,091,540,249,987,907,453,
461,311,923,963,852,950,754,758,058,205,625,956,600,817,743,007,191,746,812,
655,955,021,747,670,922,460,866,747,744,520,875,607,859,062,334,750,627,098,
328,593,480,067,789,456,169,602,494,392,813,763,495,657,599,847,485,773,553,
990,957,557,313,200,809,040,830,036,446,492,219,409,934,096,948,730,547,494,
301,216,165,686,750,735,749,555,882,340,303,989,874,672,975,455,060,957,736,
921,559,195,480,815,514,035,915,707,129,930,057,027,117,286,252,843,197,413,
312,307,617,886,797,506,784,260,195,436,760,305,990,340,708,481,464,607,278,
955,495,487,742,140,753,570,621,217,198,252,192,978,869,786,916,734,625,618,
430,175,454,903,864,111,585,429,504,569,920,905,636,741,539,030,968,041,471

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:15

>>30
Is this one of those illegal primes?

Welp, time to dban my hard drive.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:20

>>31
How can a number be illegal?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:28

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:33

>>33
Woah... that actually makes sense.

So somewhere on the web, illegal stuff like CP is probably being shared openly just by posting numbers, right?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:34

>>34
Would you believe me if I told you that all data can be represented as a string of numbers?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:35

wait what the fuck

microsoft excel, for instance, can be represented by one single big ass number?

what's 4chan's number?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:37

>>35
Not without blowing my mind... does that mean that life itself can be boiled down to numbers? When I walk down the street to the store, are there numbers behind each step? Behind each breath I take? Shit's crazy.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:37

>>33
But as the sum of what we all know and agree, the wisdom of crowds has no greater value than Trivial Pursuit. Wikipedia is full of mistakes, half truths and misunderstandings.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:47

So if an image can be represented by a number, does that mean there are certain functions behind some images?

If I posted an image, how would you find it's numerical representation?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 19:54

>>37
https://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1350710985/
May be relevant to your interests.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:03

>>39
data:image/png;base64,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

Paste that into your browser's address bar.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:04

>>41
javascript: and data: URIs typed or pasted in the address bar are disabled to prevent social engineering attacks.
No thank you!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:06

>>42
What the fuck is a ``social engineering attack''?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:09

>>37
We use binary computers.
Every binary number has a base 10 representation.

You can't be this fucking retarded, of course you can represent anything binary with a huge ass number.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:16

>>43
Are you serious?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)
Fuck off back to /g/, retard.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:17

>>45
I know what social engineering is, but how do you do an ``attack'', particularly through use of a data: URI?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:23

>>46
``hey faggot look at this cool pic of a le base64 reddit XD''
and it's actually a javashit script, like those they use for spamming freenode and the one they used to spam the imageboards a few years ago

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:27

>>47
But they begin with a MIME type.

And why block that client-side?

Why not block http:// URLs? I hear sometimes those ask for your credit card number!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:32

>>33,40
https
Terrible!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:38

So somewhere on the web, illegal stuff like CP is probably being shared openly just by posting numbers, right?
http://sageru.org/kareha.pl/1180582751/

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:51

>>48
But they begin with a MIME type.
you think normal people know what a MIME type is?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 20:57

>>51
They're the guys in striped shirts that don't talk. Everybody knows that.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 21:00

>>50
not clicking that

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 21:08

>>53
fuck off paranoid fagstorm

it's a stupid textboard
if you're so paranoid, you should have noscript, so you should be safe

you know what, go jump in a lake of jewish cut dicks

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 21:11

you know what, go jump in a lake of jewish cut dicks
I don't think I have one of those nearby, time to do some cutting…

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 21:27

>>53
Your browser probably already preloaded it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 22:01

>>56
What kind of shit browser preloads random links?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 22:08

>>57
There are image board extensions that do this. No joke.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 22:09

>>57
The kind of shit browser a moron like you would use.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 22:52

>>58
Extensions.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-20 23:02

>>59
fuck off fagfuckingcockdickshit

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 4:34

soo, >>30, what is it? .jpg.gz again, or regular prime number?

Name: I am drunk, again 2012-10-21 5:33

Wait, aren't prime only based of the base 10 notation?

If so, then don't we have to start a base 16 prime algorithms?

I wonder if we can make one better than Mersenne prime using base changes, assume by headache is correct.

I cannot seem to mentally express 0111 is divisible by 0010, so 0111 is not a prime.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 5:58

>>63
Wait, aren't prime only based of the base 10 notation?
Of course not, a prime is a prime in all bases.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 6:29

>>64
Not in the the bases I command!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 11:45

Wait, aren't prime only based of the base 10 notation?

Holy fuck this guy is retarded as a Redditshit

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 14:23

>>62
.jpg.gz again? Explain.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 15:48

>>63
This is why I ask my bank to convert my balance to base-8, because it means I get more money.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 15:51

>>67
See >>50.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 15:54

>>69
Not clicking that.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 15:58

>>70
I guess you won't get an explanation, then.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 17:11

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Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 17:30

gret snek

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 18:54

derp snake looks a faggot

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 20:12

Have you read le SICP today?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 20:20

>>77
largest dubs

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-21 20:21

mine

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 3:01

have you tried symta?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 5:07

>>38
But as the sum of what we all know and agree, the wisdom of crowds has no greater value than Trivial Pursuit. Wikipedia is full of mistakes, half truths and misunderstandings.
Crows are wise birds.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:03

>>16

he didn't ask what the highest prime in the universe is, more likely he's asking mathematically which doesn't actually exist so infinite is a valid answer.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:06

Infinity exists. It's real. WTF are you idiots talking about.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:17

>>81

oh ya jerkoff? have you SEEN infinity before?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:19

>>82
I don't need proof; Yahweh has spoken to his chosen people, a glorious message of the neverending sequence.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:20

>>82
No, but I've never seen carbon molecules floating around in the air either.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:22

>>83

holy shit i just choked on my coffee

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:24

If infinity doesn't exist, how do you measure 'distance', if pythagoras depends on infinity?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:25

If infinity doesn't exist, how many times can I cut a piece of wood in half?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:26

If infinity doesn't exist, why do I drive one?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 14:31

If infinity doesn't exist, what is n+1?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 15:54

>>86-89
You have my undying love, /prog/.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 16:31

The world is not a matrix of discrete states. the world is a continuous infinity of points.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 16:33

if infinity doesn't exist, what is Π? what is circle?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:03

>>92
Π denotes product-of-series. It is not a number.

Neither is a circle. What are you on?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:06

if infinity doesnt exist, how many points are there on a line?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:21

>>94
4294967296.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:24

no

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:26

>>93
Let's assume he means pi.

What's the last number of pi, ``finitist'' faggot?

Name: VIPPER 2012-10-22 17:39

Guys, its just the shit-spammer again, dont reply.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:46

>>98
How do you pronounce your dumb name?

Is it viper? As in, "viper? I barely know her!"
or is it vipper as in, "Ouch! I just caught my foreskin in my zipper!"

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:46

^^
<..>
 WW -- faggot

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 17:48

VIPPER QUALITY

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:00

Saying that there is an infinite number of primes is not the same thing as saying there is no largest prime.

``There is no largest prime'' is a true statement and completely valid and provable under finitistic mathematics as defined by algebraic topology: a semi-ring representing the natural numbers. ``There are infinite number of primes'' is a false statement under rigorous finitistic mathematics (the only kind which is worth considering as realistic), although informally the word "infinite" could be interpreted as a metaphor for a non-halting recursive process that generates prime numbers.

/thread

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:11

>>102 never took a real analysis university mathematics class.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:13

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:17

>>102
How do you solve integrals without infinitesimals?

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:23

>>104
Oh look, it's that lecture again.

It's true, it would be retarded to call int ``the set of all the integers'' and = the ``pick out the integer to the right side from the infinite set''.

That doesn't mean infinity can't be treated as an useful concept in mathematics, though. You can't simply say irrational numbers are worth shit because they're not infinite after all, you can't simply say imaginary numbers are worth shit because i isn't an actual number, and you can't say negative numbers are worth shit because you can't have -2 apples.

Name: >>93 2012-10-22 19:28

>>97
I'm not a finitist and there is no last digit of pi. Stop being silly.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:37

>>97
The base 10 representation of pi is an approximation of it. Pi in base pi = 1.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:41

>>108
People do that for real. And then unit is irrational. Have a nice day.

circumference and radius are never co-rational.
the diagonal of a square and its perimeter are never co-rational.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:43

>>108
Define base pi.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:49

>>105
Infinitesimals are merely heuristics for the asymptotic boundary conditions of a non-halting recursive process (Archimedes' Method of indivisibles), which can be distilled via the transfer principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Method_of_Mechanical_Theorems

>>106
That doesn't mean infinity can't be treated as an useful concept in mathematics, though.

It hides the complexity of thinking about non-halting recursive processes sure, and gives you a declarative syntax. But the problem is that this syntax has become so entrenched within mathematics that people believe the semantics of infinity is the same thing as the syntax, and that therefore infinity itself must exist in an absolute declarative sense.

People have confused the map for the territory.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 19:51

>>110
define express

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 20:17

>>111
This. Infinitists erronously reject the Kantian analytic-synthetic dichotomy of form and object, of syntax and semantics. They believe in the epistemological monism of infinitistic idealism, and reject the dualism of mathematics as a language for computational/mathematical realism.

Infinitists are Mathematical Marxists who live in a fantasy realm. Like an extremist cult, they indoctrinate new zealots with their Dialectic of Infinity.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 20:26

>>113
lol.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 20:30

>>111-113
Interesting. Looks like I don't know math after all.

But if you ask me, the finitists are the ones who look like an extremist cult to me.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 21:08

>>115
But if you ask me, the finitists are the ones who look like an extremist cult to me.

Christians are to infinitists as Platonic/Aristotelian philosophers and gnostics are to finitists.

Christianity had its beginnings as a cult until expanded to enslave much of Europe for centuries. But it was eventually exposed as the ideological canard that is, when reality could no longer be ignored with the advent of empiricism and logical positivism. Now Christianity is dying, with most of its not even seriously practicing it.

Like Christians, Infinitists will soon no longer be able to ignore reality as computationalism and algorithmic information theory become the dominant paradigm in the sciences.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 21:09

>>113
fuck off, cretin

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 21:09

>>116
Corrections:

*as a cult until [b]it/[b] expanded to
*with most of its adherents not even seriously practicing it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 21:10

>>117
Kill yourself you Mathematical Marxist! Death to the Reds!

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 22:43

>>113
Infinitists erronously reject the Kantian analytic-synthetic dichotomy of form and object, of syntax and semantics. They believe in the epistemological monism of infinitistic idealism, and reject the dualism of mathematics as a language for computational/mathematical realism.

Damn son, you just denied the meta-circular evaluator.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 22:50

Finitists can't Turing machine.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 22:53

>>120
Finitists deny the possibility of anything being meta-circular.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 22:54

>>121
The tape doesn't need to be infinite. The writer head just creates another slot at the end of the tape when it would otherwise roll off of it.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-22 23:32

>>123
Right, we must require abstract mathematics to conform to the discretely observable physical reality, but we can permit a physical thing to violate the conservation laws.

Self-directed tape production is meta-circular in concept.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-23 0:06

Linear bounded automatons can represent the evaluation of a meta-circular evaluator over a finite number of steps.

Our Universe has a definitive and thus finitistic bound in terms of entropic progression.

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-23 0:50

>>124
Most people would agree that it isn't possible to implement a touring machine in reality. I was just trying to make the unboundedness of the tape more intuitive for a Finitist

Name: Anonymous 2012-10-23 6:53

(λx.x x) (λx.x x)

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