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GNU/Communism

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:21

Linus B. Torvalds:

    GNU community that is an anomaly: virtually all users of GNU software and the GPL, under which my Linux kernel falls under, are unkempt, long-haired, beast-bearded dirty GNU hippies, and I am sick and tired of having to deal with them.

Linus actually hates GNU. :3

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:25

:3

stop that shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:26

Indeed. Linus once remarked on the LKML that the LF should do away with GCC in the near future for Linux development, to which many ardent GCC supporters retorted with much furore and faggotry.

Now that Debian has forked Glibc to smite the arrogant and belligerent Ulrich 'Ass-Pounder' Drepper and is experimenting with Clang/LLVM, it is only a matter of time before GNU software takes a back seat in future of Linux operating systems.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:27

>>1
Well, thanks to have stated the obvious.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:31

>>2
:c

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:37

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:43

Linus Torvalds appears excessively ambitious and uncouth almost every time he talks about Richard Stallman.
They're just tsundere for each other.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:44

Mr. Stallman brings us freedom, what does Linus bring? Faggotry, unprovoked insults and childish behavior. THREAD OVER

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 9:46

I think those two unrelated messages should have been posted separately. It seems that Torvalds was trying to use the wave of Obama enthusiasm to bolster his attacks on Richard Stallman. How sad.
For the Record, Richard Stallman supported Dennis Kucinich, then Stallman supported Ralph Nader after Kucinich dropped out.
I find it necessary to point out that Obama didn’t ride a unicorn across a rainbow to the White House. There was a lot of confrontation which was necessary to achieve this victory.
For the Record, Richard Stallman supported Dennis Kucinich, then Stallman supported Ralph Nader after Kucinich dropped out.

GNU-FREEDOM at work.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:01

>>9
It might be GNU-FREE, but is it GNU-FREEasinGNUFreedom?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:03

R. Matthew ``Trotsky'' Stallman brings us ideological slavery. He wants to be our masters, and we his slaves. Linus is just a troll, but a troll who cares not what you masturbate to in your spare time. Mr. ``Stalin'' Stallman requires that you sexually stimulate yourself to pictures of himself while you recite the tenants of GNU software.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:16

Another good example of so called ``Freedom'', where you can easily replace Freedom with "Hunger for more jewgold", is the C++ Sockets of some swedish douchebag at http://www.alhem.net/Sockets/index.html.

As you can see the Library is GNU/GPL'd, but there is a commercial license available.... for no less than 500$.

You have read correctly, this swedish inbred nazi expects you to pay 500 fucking dollars for something you get for free with Boost, or even Qt.

As a proof, here the Paypal link, which i just received after registering with dummy information (that moron doesn't even force an email activation!):

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=grymse@gmail.com&item_name=C%2b%2b+Sockets+Library+license+agreement&item_number=856&amount=$500

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:18

>>11
I think I saw you at /g/.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:21

>>12
Scons is the same way, it's dual licensed with GNU and a commericial license.

But to really solidify the the idea that the GPL is nothing more than a tool exploited by the Zionists for control and profit, one need look no further than Intel.

Much of their development software and SDKs are dual-licensed, with GPL community versions, but with forced commercial licenses for commercial use. Meaning if you're making money off of it, Intel wants a cut.

In conclusion, GPL = Communism = Zionism.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:26

>>14
In conclusion, GPL = Communism = Zionism.

Indeed. It's impossible not to see what's really going on: The GPL is just a tool used to enforce people to pay ridicolous fees.

Name: VIPPER 2011-02-05 10:54

>>3
it is only a matter of time before GNU software takes a back seat in future of Linux operating systems.
And what are you gonna run? Plan9 on userspace? Or android?

I mean seriously what fucking alternatives are there? Please tell me im sick of GNU.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 10:58

>>16
Clang as replacement for GCC.
Heirloom as replacement for the core utils.
KDE/XFCE as replacement for GNOME.
There are plenty of alternatives, really.

Name: VIPPER 2011-02-05 11:00

>>17
KDE/XFCE as replacement for GNOME.
Not what i would call a good alternative.

Also: if they are so good why has no one done a distro yet(assuming they didnt)?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:02

>>16
Anoncoreutils.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:03

>>16
FreeBSD and OpenBSD have already solved this problem. They're dropping GCC as soon as Clang/LLVM has matured.

And actual Linux distros like Debian (and Ubuntu) aren't far behind. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a situation where all GPLv3 software is cut from the major Linux distros, and forks of older GPLv2 software are brought up to speed.

And Clang/LLVM is maturing fast. Apple, Google, Cray, Adobe and others combined hired half of the C++0x and C1x ISO/IEC committee members to work on it. In two weeks during this last January, they implemented a dozen C++0x features, that took the GCC developers years to add. And the Clang developers did this while fixing hundreds of C99 and C++98/03 compiler bugs in preparation for the upcoming major launch.

Clang/LLVM is a fucking breath of fresh air compared to GCC.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:05

>>17
I need a replacement for Gnu Emacs, and XEmacs is gay. Is Climacs still being developed?

>>18
Also: if they are so good why has no one done a distro yet
Slackware uses KDE as main DE, last time I checked.
DEs are overrated, WM are the future.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:17

>>20
Apple, Google, Cray, Adobe and others combined hired half of the C++0x and C1x ISO/IEC committee members to work on it.
If this is true, than Clang is pretty much going to become the new defacto C/C++ compiler against which everything is benchmarked.

It's about time. I've been tired of the GCC/MSVC/ICC oligopoly.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:28

>>22
Plus it's not just a hack job, look at the Clang source, it's well-written, well-factored, self-documenting and well-commented. You can actually understand how it works, unlike GCC.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:33

>>23
Totally this. Just take a peek at the GCC source if you feel adventorous- it's horrible. Actually, beyond horrible. It's like GNU attempts to redefine the term 'horrible'.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:40

>>24
GNUHorrible.

So, clang supports ``blocks'', are they some kind of anonymous functions?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:55

>>25
When clang says they support ``blocks'', they're referring to Obj-C/Obj-C++ blocks, which are in deed anonymous functions, aka lambdas.

Since Obj-C is a superset of C99, you can pretty much use blocks in C99 code.

There's also someone working on adding C++0x lambda functions too.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:58

Anonix should switch to Clang/LLVM.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 11:58

>>26
lambdas
C

I'm going to compile clang right now.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:00

>>3
Linus once remarked on the LKML that the LF should do away with GCC in the near future for Linux development, to which many ardent GCC supporters retorted with much furore and faggotry
this one? http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/25/186

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:02

>>28
I'm personally waiting for C++0x lambda functions, the syntax is a little closer to home, and it has a lot more expressibility. You get to chose precisely what gets bound to the closure, and where it is bound by value or reference. I'm not sure you can do the same with Obj-C blocks.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:06

>>30
Me too, but till they implement C++0x's lambdas, I can mentally masturbate with those blocks.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:51

>>1

I am a GNUtard.

I
 am Rottweiler-like loyal,
 buzz cut my hair amd
 shave every morning,
 take bath (if (Summer) ? three : two;) times a day,
 wear suits (some Hugo Boss... but not the expensive ones),
 am found of Emporio Armani frangrances.

Offense taken, sir. Offense taken.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:55

>>30,31
lambdas and no garbage collector  This must be VERY USEFUL!!

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 12:57

>>32
I
  program in LITHPu
  still live in my moms basement
  smoke weed every day

fixed for you

Name: 32-kun 2011-02-05 13:06

>>34
I
 program in C || Java
 have a tiny apartment
 don't smoke.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 13:09

>>33
It is useful, as a matter of fact! The closure object is just like any other C++ class object, with a default constructor, copy constructor, copy assignment operator, move constructor, move assignment operator, and destructor.

Therefore, you can copy it around, allocate memory on the heap for it, and move it there using rvalue reference move semantics, and so on.

You get to manage the life time of the closure. And because you get to choose what variables get bound to the closure, and how they're bound (by-value or by-reference), you get to manage the life time of what is bound too. It's quite powerful.

Garbage collection is training wheels for babies first program.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 13:21

>>33

Ever heard of Linear Lisp?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 13:39

I
 program under a mutual exclusion lock
 always waiting, looking at the clock.
My
 low resources make me wait extra,
 guided by a semaphore of Dijkstra.
Is
 this an infinite wait,
 did my threads eat the bait?
Now
 my computer is like a rock,
 waiting eternally in a deadlock.

self.join()

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 14:24

>>36
Does it copy-construct everything bound in it so that it won't segfault when pointers and references disappear from stack and get deallocated from heap?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 14:55

From GNU to to retarded hipstertalk to C++ to LITHPu to C++ to pseudo-technical craptalk

Only in /praque/

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 15:49

>>39
It depends if you bind by reference or if you're binding pointers to objects.

If an object is allocated on the stack, and you bind a pointer to that object within a closure, which you then copy into the heap, once the stack object goes out of scope, it is destructed and deallocated and you have a dangling pointer in the closure.

You still need to be aware of the life times of various objects, and you need to ensure that objects bound by reference or the objects referred to by pointers remain valid for the duration of the closure's lifetime.

If you use smart pointers to objects allocated on the heap, you won't run into any problems. Unfortunately, reference-counted smart pointers have their own performance problems if you use them at to fine of a granularity.

On the other hand, if the closure is only used during the lifetime of a stack allocated object by executing the lambda, then you don't need to worry.

It's a lot to think about perhaps, but it first nature stuff for us experts. We don't even need to think about it, our idioms and ``muscle memory'' are conditioned to work around these nuances and also exploit them for maximum efficiency during execution.

But if you can't deal with it, that's why the invented garbage collection: for all of you babies who will never be EXPERT PROGRAMMERS!

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 16:14

>>41
You still need to be aware of the life times of various objects, and you need to ensure that objects bound by reference or the objects referred to by pointers remain valid for the duration of the closure's lifetime.
That!
That exactly makes this ``feature'' barely ever useful.  You can't PITAlessly compose functions through higher-order combinators that make life with Haskell so much easier.  Maybe when Boost.Phoenix will be updated for C++0x it would help.
Proper lambdas plus Phoenix HOF and scope management and currying plus automated lifetime management could really make C++ tolerable.  But, alas, all of its ``features'' are crippled.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 23:02

check my dubs

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 3:57

check dubs everyday

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 13:51

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 14:01

>>45
Thank you, really. Thank you, I enjoyed reading every single word.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 14:03

>>46
You're welcome. Linus is hilarious. If I were on the mailing list back in 2001, I'd reply to him "More of this, please".

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 14:33

>>45-47

Sun, 1 Apr 2001

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 14:38

>>48
So? Doesn't make the message any less valid just because it's satire. GNU hippies are unkempt.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 14:39

Uhm, yeah... I don't know who wrote this, but it came from Washington
state and was written with MS Outlook... Something tells me that this
April Fool's joke wasn't Linus'. :-)

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 15:17

>>50
How about
learning how
to multiline
quote, ``faggot''?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 20:39

: (      >mfw semantically incorrect quoter lectures others on the subject

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-08 12:21

>>38

That was... beautiful.

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