/prog/ - Pay attention to my help thread

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:05

Hi /prog/. I'd like to get into programming. However, every time I try this I always start learning the wrong kind and/or the program I use likes to be a dick. I want to learn SPECIFICALLY for building game engines and the like. Can someone give me a step by step plan on which guides and tutorials to read first, which already created engines to fuck around with after I've learned a bit, etc? Also an opinion on which compiling/editing software to use for an absolute beginner would be great.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:10

Why not learn to program and use a computer properly first before you dive into more specialized domains?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:16

>>2
>he actually put sage in the email field

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:18

>>2
Is that your way of saying: ``Read SICP''?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:18

>>2
Help or ignore, your choice. Saging here because you're offended by god knows what is an idiotic idea.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:18

http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:19

>>5
We don't sage because of offense. Go back to /b/ please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:20

>>7
clearly you do from the second post, please go to /v/, you'd fit in well there.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:32

>>8
>>2-san didn't answer the original question. He merely suggested that an absolute beginner should start from the absolute beginning. It is polite to sage if you don't add to the discussion. Why do you take an honest comment as an attack?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:34

>>1
You're an idiotic idea. Leave us.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:37

C and K&R I guess

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:38

>>9
-"learn to use a computer properly"
-honest comment
Now you're just trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:41

Thanks /prog/, I'm quite aware of how to use a computer and use computer programs. What I'm trying to get out of this is which tutorials or books self-taught people here used when they were starting out and which program they worked with. That's not too hard for you now, is it?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:41

>>12
program I use likes to be a dick
I want to learn SPECIFICALLY for building game engines and the like.
which compiling/editing software to use for an absolute beginner
Do you see what I'm getting at?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:45

learn sepples I recommend
`idiots guide to C++'

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:47

>>14
Your point? Minor spelling and grammar mistakes have absolutely no relevance other than catering to autistic people.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:47

>>13
Read a book.
>>11
Don't learn from tutorials. That's a very bad way to start because their authors usually haven't got the slightest clue what they're doing. The tutorials that actually are worthwhile require prior knowledge and you'll miss their point entirely. I've been there. Save yourself the time of unlearning shitty programming.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:50

>>17
Fuck, thank you. One useful post.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:50

>>15
That's beside the point. I'm talking about the kind of person which would want to start with games programming.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 5:53

>>17
That's a very bad way to start because their authors usually haven't got the slightest clue what they're doing
K&R was written by the people that gave us Unix and C. HIBT?

>>16
I'm guessing his problem was with your retarded attitude, rather than spelling and grammar mistakes. Your immediate conclusion that he was autistic actually justifies this.

Name: >>17 2010-06-12 5:55

>>20
I should have wrote:
Read a book like: >>11 suggested.
The entire paragraph below that concerns tutorials.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:00

>>19
wut

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:01

>>20
It really does not because when people speak they often exaggerate things or say things they don't really think for the sake of agitating the other person. Please stop being so analytical, you're not good at it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:18

I don't know what's sadder, >>1 or the replies he's getting.
The only answers that could possibly be relevant are >>2, >>6, and ``if you want to become a programmer because of video games you have no business being one and won't enjoy it nearly as much as you think you will''.

Name: >>2 2010-06-12 6:22

>>4
That's a good choice, yes.
>>3
You're clearly not from around here. On text boards and other slow boards (yes, even slow imageboards), it is polite to sage under most circumstances. I don't sage when my contribution is major enough that I think other posters might be interested in reading it and such a thread is not being visible (first half of the front page at least). This was not one such contribution, and your thread was on top anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:23

>>24
Let's just hope he'll read his SICP before he ends up in an EA sweatshop or goes bankrupt trying to start an indie game company.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:33

>>26
Given his attitude, I hope he does go bankrupt and kills himself. Whether or not he reads SICP doesn't really matter to me.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 6:42

>>1,3,5,8,13,16,18,19
Fuck off back to the imageboards, please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-12 10:03

>>1
You're an idiot. We already have a textbook ready for you and yet, you ignore it. Just complete it and you'll then be ready to do whatever it is you wanted.

http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

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