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Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 17:17

[ ] told
[ ] really told
[X] motherfucking told

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 17:24

NO EXCEPTIONS

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 17:44

>>1
Back to /g/ , please.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 17:58

>>3
Fuck off, ``faggot''.
[i]Disregard that. Please choose a better audience for your post, such as >>3-san's suggestion, /g/. Thank you and have a nice day.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 17:59

>>4
[/i]

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 21:21

http://my.opera.com/community/countup/
www.opera.com

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 21:36

I try not to purchase things that I can't physically modify or are not part of a physical modification.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 21:37

Man I saw the title and thought this would be a 3DS thread.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 22:56

I wouldn't get an iPhone anyway being that I would have to switch to AT&T. Though, iSSH is a nice mobile SSH client.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 23:25

>>9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwV4XJJAAas

>>8
anything with a front-facing camera and fast enough processor should be able to do the same faux-3d effect as the 3ds.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-23 23:33

>>10
Oh cool, I actually have Sprint as my provider.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 0:10

>>11
of course. largest coverage area in the united states and cheapest price for unlimited mobile to mobile calling, unlimited sms, and unlimited data. only an idiot wouldn't choose that. especially with the htc hero out now and both the nexus one and the evo coming soon.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 2:10

http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/news/Snap-Diagram.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 2:31

>>13
Wow, who in hell's name would take the time out of their day to make this? Jesus Christ...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 2:33

>>10
Yeah but unlike phones, the 3DS will actually have good games.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 3:04

>>14
apparently someone at "sparkfun": http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/news.php?id=202
and it probably only took about 10 seconds to make...

>>14
while the major game development companies are still stuck in "make shitty ports of j2me games" mode, there are some games available for android that are pretty impressive.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 8:26

I'm thinking of getting a Nexus One. Am I a faggot? :(

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 9:06

>>16
As impressive as something like God of War for the PSP or The World Ends With You (I'm a faggot, I know) for the DS?

I think not.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 9:12

>>18
Sure it's possible, but I don't really think those things are appropriate for an Android based phone. Do you know how much juice it takes to power hefty 3D iPhone games? I think that it's more appropriate for juice sucking games to target dedicated portable handheld consoles as opposed to a handheld computer/communication device.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 10:29

>>19
Unlike the iPhone, portable gaming consoles have this advanced technology called "buttons". It helps with games, a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 11:14

>>1
[ ] told
[ ] really told
[X] motherfucking told

http://boards.4chan.org/g/

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 12:30

>>21
See >>3-5.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 12:52

>>19
most of the newer android phones beat the iphone pretty handily when it comes to 3d graphics.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 12:53

>>22
Listen here, jerkface.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 13:56

>>21
>>22
Butthurt iphonefag is butthurt

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 13:57

>>25
I refuse to be multitrolled.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 14:09

>>25
Haha.
Seriously though, I don't own any Apple product and I still have a deep belief in this thread's belonging to /g/

Name: Sagey McSagerson 2010-03-24 14:13

>>27
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 16:19

>>26-28
NYJMUA

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 22:05

>>23
I've only seen what iPhone 3D games look like, but is there a phone that has games that look better than the ones on the PSP?
Out of curiousity, even if they look better the lack of a proper control scheme makes them inferior anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-24 23:18

>>25
http://boards.4chan.org/g/

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 1:06

>>31
>>25
Sorry, I just thought you meant >>1-1000.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 1:09

>>30
unlike your shitty iphone, real phones have things like trackballs, buttons, and front-facing cameras, all of which can be used for game input.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 3:10

>>33
hehe, phone ``games''.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 6:18

iPhone has NO GAEMS

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 6:23

>>33
Poker, minesweeper, and Peggle aren't games.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 6:28

>>36
that's probably why >>33 didn't mention the fact that a lot of phones have touchscreens too.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 13:23

>>33
I have a 1st Gen iPhone I got for free. Since it was free I can claim less bias that that poor sod that paid 300 bucks for the stupid thing.
One word: TOUCH SCREENS SUCK

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 14:49

>>10
Wow, chill out you rabid moron. The 3DS is most likely using parallax barrier, which is infinitely crappier than head tracking. So you can calm the fuck down and get over your penis-envy already.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 16:42

>>38
see >>37.

>>39
so they're going to add extra hardware instead of using head tracking, which even the DSi is capable of doing? wow, nintendo is stupider than i thought.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 16:51

Lol ITT: pointless pissing contests.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 17:17

>>40
That's the idea. But the DSi can't do it. There's unforgivable lag on that DSiWare app and that's unacceptable for anything outside of shovelware. Plus, parallax barrier provides an actual stereo image which is what Nintendo thinks everybody wants because 2010 is the year of stereo graphics. Most people I've talked to prefer stereo 3D to head tracking. It's sad.

But you know, a real GPU (Tegra2) could probably take care of head tracking efficiently. You could get the best of both worlds, provided you don't rotate the screen.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 18:20

>>42
have you actually tried to do it on the DSi?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 18:52

>>43
I'm not >>42 but you're dealing with a pretty standard 133MHz ARM CPU, good luck with that.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 21:57

>>43
Note the lag: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDMekXkA8Q

DSi mode hasn't been made accessible to homebrew yet, or I'd have been working on it myself (hoping to improve the speed.) But there is of course the fact that the game engine has to share the ARM9 processor with all that nonsense. I'm just not seeing it work out in any kind of action game.

OTOH, the 3DS is all but officially confirmed to be a Tegra2 (Cortex-A9 MPCore (dual core)), probably clocked at 800MHz judging from the language of the press release. The gap between one of these cores and the 133MHz ARM9 in the DSi is pretty huge.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-25 23:58

>>45
the DSi can do it, as that video shows. sure, it wouldn't work too well for action games, but as you already pointed out, the 3DS shouldn't have any trouble with that.
there are ways to run small bits of code in DSi mode now, but people haven't figured out how to make use of the cameras yet.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 0:25

PSP2 > 3DS
SONY WINS AGAIN!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 1:05

>>47
EXCEPT IN THE MARKETPLACE!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 1:24

>>47
the psp doesn't have tegra.
sony loses again...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 1:33

>>49
THE POWER OF THE CELL
SONY WINS AGAIN!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 3:05

>>50
tegra 250[1] with arm cortex-a9 mpcore[2] is better than even the wildest speculations about what the (still unannounced) psp2 might have.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra#Tegra_250
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9_MPCore

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 3:12

>>51
I like to see unbiased real-world benchmarks

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 3:45

>>51
Nintendo hasn't been about the most powerful tech for a while now so I'm very doubtful the 3DS will outdo the PSP2 in terms of power.

The only rumor I heard about the PSP2 is that it'll be graphically as good as the original Xbox.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 3:51

>>52
benchmarks of what, exactly? the speculations i've seen of what the psp2 might have vary from the same as current PSPs (222MHz MIPS chip) up to a single-core 1GHz ARM chip...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:07

>>53
the tegra apx 2500 is as good as what's in the original xbox[1], and it only has a single-core 600MHz processor.

1. http://hotchips.org/archives/hc20/2_Mon/HC20.25.331.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:12

Megahertz myth, a 2ghz core2 is faster than pentium 4 with 4Ghz.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:25

>>56
You're comparing a dual-core 64-bit processor running at or below it's rated maximum clock speed and a single-core 32-bit processor overclocked a lot higher than it's rated maximum clock speed.
Between a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore at 1GHz and a single-core ARM11MP at 600MHz the difference is pretty obvious.
Try harder next time.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:25

>>55
I still think the PSP2 will be more powerful graphically. That was one of the major advantages the PSP had over the DS so I doubt Sony will let Nintendo beat them at that.

I just hope they'll be easy to crack. Also anyone think there's a chance the PSP2 will be able to play PS2 games games just like the PSP can play PS1 games?

Probably not but I can hope... ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:35

>>58
sony already has let nintendo beat them at that by wasting time on the psp go while nintendo has been busy working on the 3DS, and by aiming for original xbox-level graphics while nintendo has been aiming a lot higher.

it'd probably need a 2.5-3GHz processor to play PS2 games at reasonable speed. either that, or the same processor as what's in the PS2.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 4:46

>>59
I'm pretty sure Sony has more than one team of engineers so I don't know what time was wasted on the PSPgo. Though the ones who made it probably could have spent their time in a better way.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 5:45

Hahahaha! Proprietary handheld consoles. You enjoy your faux-3D and Sony games while I play every good (read: pre-1997) game under the sun on my GP2X Wiz.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 6:05

>>61
You can play pre-1997 games on the PSP too...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 6:29

>>62
I know, I have one, but it's much less hassle with open source hardware to run anything than it is to void your warranty by homebrew-ifying a proprietary system.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 9:07

>>46
The thing about the DSi is that it does not provide an acceptable solution. So it can do it in the very same way that it can run Crysis given enough flash to use as swap: clever software HMAs, and way too much lag.

>>53
If Sony wants to underpower their portable, who cares? If there's some rule that PSP has to beat DS in power, it falls apart the moment Sony fails to deliver on it. Nintendo's specs don't magically degrade when Sony's do.

Nintendo is keeping with the convention of roughly matching the power of their console from the previous generation. GB/C:NES, GBA:SNES, DS:N64. That leaves 3DS:GameCube -- which is just what devs are saying about it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 12:33

Who care about handheld gimmicky bullshit?

Project Natal is where it's at, just wait for E3, fags

The PSP was closer to the PS2 and not the PS1 graphically, I wonder where that leaves PSP2...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 12:47

This fascinate you with portable feeling as if you carry PS2.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:01

>>65
75% of the games I care about are DS titles. Gimmicky? No one really cares about the DSi's enhancements, but the touch screen can only be called a gimmick because Sony hasn't copied it yet. (Honestly, I thought it was retarded before I picked up a DS for homebrew. Can't live without it now.)

Head tracking can be put to good use - I would love to do 3D modeling with head tracking and a touch screen (okay, it's a bit small, but damn.) This stereo 3D crap? (Stereo 3D makes the task of modeling worse, not better. Argh.) Well it's 2010 and it's what we get instead of flying cars. We've been gyp'd, and it's only profitable because of the types of people who still watch 4:3 broadcasts in 16:9 and call it HD. They think they want stereo 3D, and everyone knows that.

I'm inclined to agree about Project Natal. I don't really care yet, but some day I will.

I wonder where that leaves PSP2...
Here, apparently: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/16/exclusive-sony-psp2-arriving-in-20102c-features-powervr-sgx543-graphics.aspx

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:10

>>67
Really? You look forward to getting home from work or school and flailing around like a faggot?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:11

>>68
getting home from work
Hahahaha!

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:16

>>68
Could you quote, please? Since my answer is "no, why would you think that?" I have no idea what part of my post you're responding to.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:25

>>70
I'm inclined to agree about Project Natal. I don't really care yet, but some day I will.

Project Natal just seems stupid. Apparently Microsoft is having 2 press conferences at E3, one for Natal and a normal one. The only conference I consistently look forward to is Sony's since they actually announce some exclusive games (even if they're one or two years away).

I'll just keep hoping that Sony will make a PS2 emulator (which is highly doubtful since they haven't made one for the PS3 yet) for the PSP2 just like they did for the PS1 one the PSP.

I CAN DREAM, CAN'T I?

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 14:47

>>71
I meant that of all the waggle technology, I like the idea of Project Natal the most. And I don't care yet because I presume it still involves flailing around like a faggot. When they start reading sign language with it is when will be in a caring mood.

In the meantime, you can feel free to flail around like a faggot, grasping your wand with the bulbous protrusion at the end. C'mon man, you must have seen this one coming.

Anyway, PS2 emulation would be giant a pain in the dickwand as far as emulating on the PSP2 goes, unless it will feature another MIPS processor of the 64-bit variety this time. That goes against speculations of an ARMv6 architecture, but I wouldn't really be surprised if they did it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 15:16

>>72
Oh, I think the Sony Move is also awful and a clear ripoff of the Wii. But it's still better than Natal because it actually has buttons.

Although it would be pretty cool if I could cut a guy in half in Gears of War 3 with the chainsaw bayonet by controlling it with my dick in Natal.

*grabs dick*

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 15:23

Just because you guy don't go to work and hang arround in the internet you cant effort a Iphone. Get a job

~Guido Westerwelle

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 16:35

>>73
Well that's just it. Waggle has proven itself to be deserving of the derogatory term. Nintendo-waggle has buttons too, you know, and it's still not great. Natal is doing something fundamentally different, which is why it has a hope--you don't need buttons if the system can comprehend fine gestures.

I fully expect Natal to pave the way for such a system. On the other hand, if NIA-type tech advances fast enough it may well eclipse the Natal stuff. I don't think we'll see either of these advance to the point of outmoding other control schemes without a serious change in the way input is processed. We're still writing software for it with programmed heuristics, when we should be writing software that comes up with its own heuristics. (NIA does this already, but not to the extent I imagine.)

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 23:00

>>61
I actually ordered a Pandora, way back. ;_;
I knew it would turn out like this, though. It's cool, as long as it gets here before Cortex-A9 netbooks do, and the nubs are good.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 23:25

>>76
Pandora would have been impressive in 2006. My phone that I got a year ago has more powerful hardware.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 23:44

>>76
Oh shit dawg. That sucks. It would still have the actually-fits-in-your-pocket factor, but yeah, knowing it would come to this is why I didn't order one.

>>77
It would still have been impressive in 2008. 2010, not so much.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-26 23:57

>>77
Equally powerful, more likely. And chances are it's a bitch to program for, unless it's a WinMo device, in which case your fancy hardware is useless.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 0:30

>>79
it's an android device. so no, it's not a bitch to program for.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 1:10

>>75
Well, Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 were really good on the Wii. I've actually seen girls play Mario Kart Wii and enjoying it (girls don't play games here). Nintendo made games are usually good but they can't be held responsible for 3rd party shovelware where all you do is waggle.

I'm curious about the new Zelda, they said it'll require WiiMotion+ so maybe it'll have realistic sword combat. Probably not though...

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 2:44

>>81
I wasn't very good at Super MR GAY, but MP3 was pretty good. It's a bit of an exception, though. It's not really a shooter, and honestly I had better luck with using a stylus for MPH (it's overall worse, though, because the dpad and form factor are uncomfortable for shooters.)

I'm not saying the waggle is all bad, but there's obviously something missing. I'm happy to concede that a big part of that something is in the amount of dedication the developers put into handling the input, but that still leaves a lot of the spectrum completely unaddressed.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 2:50

>>82
MPH had that huge reticle which helped but overall MP3 had much better aiming due to the fact that you could lock-on an enemy and still aim freely.

Overall I still prefered the control scheme of Metroid Prime 1 & 2 (because I didn't have to aim at the screen so I could sit more comfortably). The point is motion control works, but only few developers actually make something worthwhile.

Also SMG was awesome, ur a fag.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 4:47

>>83
About MPH, I mean the stylus control was better than waggle. Due to the greater angle, precision is finer.

The point is motion control works,
The point is that it doesn't ever seem to work as well as something else would. When it comes down to it you're still voting for MP1&2.

Also SMG was awesome, ur a fag.
What was that horrible thing I said about SMG now? Look, if you want to argue in this manner please start a thread in /v/.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 4:56

>>84
I liked MP1&2 controls more because I have a TV in my room and I sit in my computer chair with my legs on the bed. Can't do that with the Wiimote and aim.

But really, you honestly think you could control a game more precisely with Natal than you do MP3 or some other high quality Wii game? Also I didn't find MPH more accurate at all (the game was a lot worse but that's besides the point).

Super Metroid is still king.

Name: Anonymous 2010-03-27 18:56

>>85
But really, you honestly think you could control a game more precisely with Natal than you do MP3 or some other high quality Wii game?
Natal right now? Who knows--I haven't tried it. Have you? The tech that Natal is building, on the other hand, should subsume anything you'd do with a wand. It fine enough gestures can be read (in real time) then I see no room for incredulity.

Touchscreen control responds more accurately to movements in the hand. A lot of this is afforded by the fact that close up, lateral hand movements are actually on par with rotations. It doesn't work that way when you're 8 feet away, you have to rotate to generate any significant amount of change, and that is inverse square, nowhere near 1:1.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-06 9:32

Back to /b/, ``GNAA Faggot''

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