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Gay OO argh

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:03

I suppose I better learn one of them gay OO business oriented to be able to code inane custom apps for some corporate...

I come from the C demoscene school, so using OO and especially using stuff like .NET or JVM to me is like pulling my eyes out with a spoon; but the world changes nobody cares about pure performance anymore it seems. I gotta go with the flow...

So, which is the lesser of two evils for someone like me?
C# or Java?
(or any other you might suggest)

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:17

Smalltalk

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:18

C#|.NET is about anal slavery
Java is about LOC
C is about premature bitfucking
groovy is about whatever
slojure is about awesome

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:23

If you're anything like me you'll probably like java better, OP.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:27

If you're anything like a competent programmer, you'll prefer C# to Java but nearly anything else to either.
Since you sound like kind of an idiot, try Java.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:39

>>5
is it seforples fucktard with his baseless statements again?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 7:43

I didn't cut it in the C demoscene school
ftfy

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 8:07

why does the demoscene even exists?
there's bound to be much better, easier, more effective ways to do it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 8:18

Smalltalk/any language with a CLOS.

maybe Scratch is for you

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 8:19

>>6
Maybe you should learn to read.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 8:24

>>9
I agree. Having read AMOP, I wasn't able to grasp why the fuck sepples and java tards think their languages are object oriented.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:18

>>1
OO always sacrifices performance
( ≖‿≖)

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:22

>>12
Functions sacrifice performance too.
Everything should be done with GOTO's.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:28

>>13
Without function prolog and ending, function calls would perform exactly the same as goto statements. Which makes me wonder, why do compilers still bother to save the registers, move the base pointer and so forth if they could just do away with it completely. It's not like anyone's still writing custom assembly to mess up the registers.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:34

>>14
I don't think you have fully thought what just said through.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:35

>>14
The same some reason people think function calls should always return to the caller, tradition and lack of imagination

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:38

>>16
Functions returning to a random point in the code segment would be pretty awesome for most purposes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:38

>>16
So how should it be done?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:44

>>18
Can't you let me troll in peace?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 9:51

>>19
Trolls should at least make some sense to work properly. Thus, it is you who is depriving yourself of peace while you troll.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 11:53

>>17
I personally would like to return to another process somewhere, with CoW.

>>1
Without further qualifying factors, I would suggest C#. On the other hand, embedded programming is kind of a big deal and Android uses a less terrible than most Java implementation. (If you're just looking to branch out, get into embedded stuff. Though I'd personally avoid Android.)

Kudos on being a C dude. I feel your pain buddy.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 11:59

>>9
This. CLOS is pretty nice for OO, but OP seems to want something liked by the ENTERPRISE, so I'd go with C#, but Java isn't that much different from it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 12:29

>>11
I don't know enough about Ambient-Orientation to argue your statement.

>>16
The program is just chilling, running normally, when suddenly a 42 appears somewhere and it doesn't know what the heck.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 12:40

>>23
Except for the whole "tied to MS" thing. Maybe.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:22

>>8
How is babby formed?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:25

The answer is Common LISP

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:26

>>27
It always is. But unfortunately, you can't use toy languages for making monies.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:30

>>24
oh god how did that get there i'm not good with computer

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:39

>>29
I'm 12 and what is this?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 14:42

>>30
Go write a compiler or something.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-11 18:43

Learn COBOL and become an ENTERPRISE GOD

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 1:57

I hate dealing with code written by people like OP.  The faggots who name all their variables like cryptic registers and document nothing.  They have huge swaths of copy and pasted code from their "performance tweaking", a lot of it commented out so they can revert to other implementations later if necessary (they just don't want to delete it).  Nearly all their functions are declared inline.

I have to go over your shit code, turn it into something manageable by multiple people (there's OOP for you), and then document your shit.

You can always spot poor programmers pretty quickly.  They are tied to a particular language.  They hate one or more languages.  Why?  They don't understand it.  They assume what they know is superior.

Go suck some cocks, man. Suck a mean fat one.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 9:43

>>33
I lol'd, though I must ask you this: do you really think people hate PHP adn Java because they don't understand them? I'll leave Sepples out because it's possible that no one understands it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 10:22

>>34
Also, how can one hate Java? I understand if someone does not like it, but why such hard feelings? It isn't even nearly as fucked up as PHP is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 10:38

>>35
OutputStream s = new BufferedOutputStream(new FileOutputStream(new File("asd")));

It's almost like I'm really writing LISP.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 10:46

>>17
Considered harmful.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 12:28

OutputStream s = (new BufferedOutputStream
                      (new FileOutputStream
                           (new File
                                ("asd"))));

HOLY FUCK !

I'm giving up LISP for JAVA so I can write ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS to ENTERPRISE PROBLEMS using ENTERPRISE GRADE ALMOST-LISP!

It's going to be Great!

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 13:05

>>38 nice one, now how about some WITH-OPEN-FILE/STREAM macro to go with that?

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-12 13:12


#include <stdio.h>
int main
(
  int argc, char **argv
)
{ if
  (
    (
      (
        (
          (
            (
              (
                argv[1] )))))))
              { printf
                (
                  "%s\n", argv[1] );
                return 0; } return 1; }

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