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If programming languages were languages

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 7:32

C++ would be English. It's hideously complicated and has stolen ideas from a ton of other languages but didn't get any of them right. Even though everyone claims to know it, few people actually know most of the details. There are people who barely know enough of the language to put something together that mostly works -- but that apparently counts as "knowing" it.

Haskell would be Lojban. It makes perfect sense if you've taken the time to learn it, but it looks so damn weird at first that few people bother, and the ones who do usually go around feeling superior and telling everyone else how marvelous it is. Also, it's insistent on staying "pure" to a fault.

Assembly would of course be Latin. It was perfectly suitable at the time it was created, but practically no one speaks it anymore except for a couple of words and phrases.

HTML would be grunting and pointing. It's ok for communicating ideas, but despite what lower-level primates seem to think, it isn't a real language.

XSLT would be sign language. It *is* a real language, but a really annoying one to use. However, about 0.1% of the time it happens to be the right tool for the job.

Lisp would be German. Combining words together to make new words? Same general idea as "cdaddr".

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 8:12

Actually, I think LISP would be an agglutinative language like Hungarian. Wikipedia lists the longest word as Töredezettségmentesítőtleníttethetetlenségtelenítőtlenkedhetnétek meaning "you [plural] could constantly mention the lack [of a thing] that makes it impossible to make someone make something defragmenter-free".

It also has pretty weird verb order compared to English, and the verb order can be quite flexible - relations between words are often denoted by case suffixes instead of sentence position. It is also quite confusing to people who know only English. (thinks I (fits this LISP)).

Of course, there's probably some sort of weird polysynthetic language that fits LISP better, but I don't know much about those.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 11:36

Python would be Dutch. Een woord aan de gedwongen inspringen van code thread over.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 11:41

Fjölnir would be stofnlok
*
"GRUNNUR"
;

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 11:52

>>3
Dutch doesn't have very much whitespace though. Very long words. Maybe something like Vietnamese, because it separates individual syllables with spaces.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 11:56

Clojure would be Novial. Otto Jespersen disliked the arbitrary and artificial character that he found in Esperanto and Ido. Additionally, he objected to those languages' Latin-like systems of inflection, which he found needlessly complex. He sought to make Novial at once euphonious and regular while also preserving useful structures from natural languages.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 12:39

>>6
Good sir, you just managed to make a JVM based language sound attractive. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Name: 6 2008-12-19 12:41

>>7
I've been trying out Clojure for the past week, and you don't really need bad analogies to make it sound attractive. The only bad thing about JVM is the fact that it is named after one of the most harmful programming languages ever.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 13:17

>>8
Once the JVM gets a tailcall instruction, it will be complete.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 13:26

>>9
I don't really miss it that much. Theoretical wankery aside, loop/recur has been good enough for me this far.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 14:16

>>1
Lisp would be German. Combining words together to make new words? Same general idea as "cdaddr".
That's retarded. You've seized on a totally minor detail. No one even uses anything past perhaps CADR. Lisp is a pretty good candidate for lojban though. Good ideas from other languages have been combined with completely novel and unambiguous syntax.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 14:28

>>11
Good ideas from other languages have been combined with completely novel and unambiguous syntax.
Holy fuck! Get your timeline right.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 14:44

>>11
But Lisp has no syntax. Haskell obviously fits the bill there.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:00

>>13
no syntax
:(

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:01

>>14
:(
)(
fixed

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:45

>>13
Every languaga has syntax, you moron.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:46

*language

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 15:55

>> 11

Lisp [...] Good ideas from other languages have been combined
with completely novel and unambiguous syntax.

Only that it actually was the other way round: many languages got good ideas from Lisp (Lisp goes back ~ 50 years). Even something as fundamental as the if statement/expression was introduced in Lisp first, see http://www.paulgraham.com/diff.html for many more concepts which are now mainstream.

So, perhaps Lisp should be compared to some old Indo-European language on which many others are based, like the Proto-Indo-European language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language).

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 16:11

>>18
0/10 for mentioning Paul Graham. Seriously, someone needs to hit that faggot with a bus.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 16:12

>>19
because he's popular or because he's actually done something bad?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 16:52

>>20
Because he wastes all his time writing stupid "OMG LISP IS AWESOME" essays on his domain name that's named after him, instead of actually doing something useful.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 17:02

>>20
Because he is an intolerable cock stuffer.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:15

>>19
What type, PCI-E or AGP?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:23

>>23
I grinned mildly.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:28

>>23
Please, never do that again.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:42

>>25,23
Seriously.  Neither of those are buses.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 20:42

>>23
I cried crocodile tears for sympathy.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 22:14

>>23
AGP still exists?!

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 22:46

>>26
AGP and PCI-E are -standards- for a high-bandwidth bus. For all intensive purposes they are a bus. Stop being pedantic.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 22:56

Funny story about pg: his essay about how Lisp made him a millionaire is on the MIT Open CourseWare site for CS 6.001 -
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-001Spring-2005/LectureNotes/index.htm

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-19 23:27

>>30
"PG" will never be mentioned here again. True satori does not come from material wealth.

Name: John Cowan 2008-12-20 0:06

Lojban *really is* Prolog, or rather a superset of it.  And I should know.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 0:15

>>29
Their not anythings for any kind of bus.  Stop trolling me.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 1:14

Stop trolling
You'd do well to follow your own advice.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 1:20

>>32
wow, i haven't seen that name in a while.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 7:28

IM GONA LOJBAN UR ASS

Name: lambda theory 2008-12-20 8:18

hi LTU!!

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 8:18

>>37
THIS IS WHY WE DON"T SUBMIT /PROG/ TO LTU

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 8:25

Forth would be like Finnish. You end up stacking suffixes on top of other suffixes and in the end around one in two thousand people (or in Forth's case, programmers) might understand what you're saying... if they can remember what the actual word (first three syllables) was (after hearing fifteen syllables worth of suffixes). Chain three of these together and you can express poignant commentary on anything.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 10:46

LISP would be any of the Semitic languages i.e. Hebrew, Arabic, Akkadian...

The Concatenative Languages would be the Germanic Languages.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 10:57

Lisp would be any language you want; Guy L. Steele Jr., "If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Lisp, he has any language he pleases."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 11:03

lisp would be braille. it's ugly as fuck and completely useless.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 11:50

>>41
Hasn't Guy L. Steele stopped jerking off to Lisp and moved on to Python?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 12:03

Guy Steele the DECIEVER, Abelson the DENIER, Sussman the SUSTAINER.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 12:43

Forth would be any language you want; Elizabeth D. Rather, "If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Forth, he has any language he pleases."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 13:18

Haskell would be any language you want; Taro, "If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Haskell, he has any language he pleases."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 13:21

sage: "If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone any language he pleases, he has any language he pleases."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 14:25

mi to flava lojban , or something.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 14:28

"If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone BBCCODE, he has any language he pleases to write some rad BBCODE programs."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 14:31

i listen to rap music is this the right forum

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 14:38

>>46
"If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Haskell, he has a dead dog."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 14:39

>>51
I smirked.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 15:23

>>51
I burst out laughing and then came in my pants :(

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 15:27

>>51
I laughed, came in my pants, chortled, and then sent snort flying onto my autistic girlfriend's malshaped face.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 16:15

>>51
"If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Haskell, he can feed a Korean family of four."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 16:31

>>52-55
Same goddamn person. In addition to that, we have been trolled, not once, not twice, but consistently.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 16:38

>>56
It is nice to have some consistency in your life, is it not? You are however sadly mistaken, as there are at least two people represented in that sequence of posts.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-20 18:46

>>56
Do you mean constantly?

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 3:48

C# would be an annoying straight man poorly imitating "Gay Accent" while performing a flamboyant homophobic joke.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 3:59

Since when is HTML a programming language? It is a Markup Language... just "organizes" and "classifies" data. It doesn't manipulate it or anything.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 4:05

>>60 M$ people think it is because of .HTA
Not saying they are right, just pointing out why they are losers.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 4:07

>>60  the post says "it isn't a real language."

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 4:54

It's a language. Not a programming language.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 8:01

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 8:50

>>39
I lol'd at how you implied that programmers are not people.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 14:00

Guido we have hard on high
Sweetly indenting o’re the code,

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 19:24

>>66
hard on



          .'"".      I LIKE PYTHON BECAUSE I ENJOY HOMOSEXUAL
         c' )"/      S/M. OH GUIDO MAKE ME USE THAT FUCKING
        __>  /_      INDENTATION. OH BABY I'M CUMMING.
     .-`_    ._'-.
    ( -' \  :/  )/   THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DO IT: GUIDO'S
     \\._|  (  //    WAY! THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T USE ALL
      '-/)   \(,     CONTROL STRUCTURES. IF YOU NEED A DO-
         /  ) )      WHILE LOOP, A SWITCH OR BREAK OUT OF A
        / .'\ |      NESTED LOOP, TOO BAD. GUIDO SAYS IT'S TO
       /.'   \|      KEEP THE LANGUAGE CLEAN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY
      ||     ||      TO PUNISN HIS SLAVES. THIS DOESN'T MEAN
    __|/     |/__    THAT PYTHON IS FLAWED, JUST WORK AROUND IT.
    _._)     (,__;                       FUCK I'M CUMMING AGAIN.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-21 19:43

http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=91701
C++ would probably be absinthe. If you have some, you think you are all-powerful; everyone else just thinks you're really f*cked up.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 4:39

BTW Russian has free order of words in it.
For example:
I am a robot. - Ja robot.
Robot a I am. - Robot ja.

All are fine.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 11:52

russisch ist waanzinnug

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 20:38

anus ist haxed

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 20:51

MEIN ANUS IST GEHAXEN

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 20:54

anus ist haxt

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 21:30

I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS TOPIC.

Name: Anonymous 2008-12-22 22:10

хакс моего ануса

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-19 22:20

Which would be Java then?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-19 22:32

>>76
Swahili. It's spoken by AIDS

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-19 22:45

>>29
intensive purposes
intents and purposes

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 1:20

>>78
For all intensive purposes, it still makes sense within that context.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 7:44

for all in tents and purposes

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 7:52

This is a nice thread.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 8:18

∀intents purposes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 10:22

Fjölnir would be Polish.

All that is known about Polish is that it's slavic language and that you can say "Kurwa" in it.
Somehow you keep hearing that "GRUNNUR" or "Kurwa".

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 10:50


for i in /intents and purposes/*
do
  $something
done

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 16:59

>>80
for all in tents and porpoises

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 17:02

>>85
feral porpoises in tents?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 17:58

What would LOLCODE be?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 18:36

>>87
The noises that Helen Keller made.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 20:07

>>29
It's "intents and purposes".  This shit really has to stop.  "Intensive purposes" doesn't even make sense in context, I will never get why Yanks continue to mangle the saying in this manner.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 20:23

>>89
I'll hax your anus for intensive purposes.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 20:42

>>89
Yanks continue to mangle the saying in this manner.
Wut. Why do you blame us?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 20:54

>>86
Balls deep in a feral porpoise in a tent? Your manager is.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 20:58

>>59
Oh you.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 21:31

>>89
What the hell are you talking about?  It's the British that stole the saying from the U.S. and ass fucked it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-20 22:43

>>94
IHBT.

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-23 17:28

I prefer Forth

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-23 23:57

>>40
>LISP would be any of the Semitic languages i.e. Hebrew, Arabic, Akkadian...
>
>The Concatenative Languages would be the Germanic Languages.

heh, spirits in the computer

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 0:06

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 16:36

What about Java?

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-24 16:42

Java would be English, and you would feel kind of bad about it :(

Name: Anonymous 2009-03-25 3:05

Python would be Esperanto.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 13:55

I thought Forth would Polish (reverse Polish that is).

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 14:09

What would Brainfuck be?

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 14:11

Brainfuck would be Java.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 17:58

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 17:59

K would be Japanese. For an ordinary person it looks nothing like a real language, but those who know it can produce complete words and sentences just by throwing random characters in the mix.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 18:05

Malbolge would be Klingon. Useless as fuck, but still interesting, at least to laugh at. Nobody really knows it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 18:05

Chinese is APL then.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 19:05

>>87
The sounds that Terri Schiavo made.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 19:07

>>104
You're being too kind to Java.

Name: Anonymous 2009-04-17 19:17

>>110
You're
Back, villian, or I will brake thy pate across!

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:11

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:12

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:12

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:12

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:12

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:13

Lain.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-19 1:13

Lain.

Name: !fKKySeJwGc 2009-09-19 1:14

I dread to think what Arabic would be.

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-30 16:32

xcvbnm

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-30 16:37

>>119
Perl

Name: Anonymous 2009-11-30 17:01

Which language would Perl be?

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-19 18:51

>>122
Sanskrit

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-20 3:19

[b]Congratularation! we're on L[sub]t[/sup]U![/b]

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-20 3:57

>>124
Valid perl code.

Name: Anonymous 2010-04-20 8:50

>>124
That better not be true.

Name: ​​​​​​​​​​ 2010-09-08 13:18

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 0:32

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-20 23:55

would C be latin?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 11:40

>>9
Oddly enough the loop-recur thing is great. The clojure people have actually said that even if the JVM gets TCO, they're keeping it because it makes code easier to understand. The only disadvantage right now is that mutual tail recursion can't be optimized. (And if it's only two functions, they have a trampoline feature built into the language.)

lisp haters, check out clojure, you can use every java library ever in your code without any translation, it's pretty tight

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 11:42

C would be Latin I think. In that it's influenced so many languages and you can see its marks everywhere.
Lisp would be Chinese, just as influential, but strange and alien to our Western minds. (Having learned a small amount of both, I think this is a reasonable analogy.)

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 14:45

would C be Lain?

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 15:06

APL would undechperiable ancient hiroglyphics

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 15:33

APL would be Chinese: Ideograms.
Common Lisp would be Japanese: The grammar is ridiculously simple but the vocabulary is quite complex.
C would be Latin: It's relatively consistent and has influenced many other languages.
C++ would be French: It's influenced by Latin and kept all its quirks while stacking nonsense onto it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 15:51

>>135
Sounds like you don't know Latin or French.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 15:53

>>136
I don't know much about Latin but French is my mother tongue.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 16:11

>>136
Actually >>135 is smarter than you think.  The French language maintained strong similarities with Latin, at least in writing.  For example, word temps, meaning time, resembles its Latin counterpart tempus.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 16:17

WTF!?!?

How come shit thread like this is still alive.

fucking faggots

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 19:04

>>1
XSLT
the right tool for anything

hahahaha

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-21 19:05

ooc would be the language of the gods themselves.

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-26 2:31

BUMP

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-29 8:02

BAMPU PANTSU

N ecpin O'Xetos

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-29 11:27

Name: Anonymous 2011-08-29 11:57

Perl would be Latin

can say everything relatively quickly

everyone wants to learn it to feel smart, though not really useful aside from learning pronouns(scope)

C++ would be Italian

C would be Spain Spanish

Java would be British English (seriously Colour not color? fucking brits)

Ada would be American english, made by americans for americans

Python would be french

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