Your message was perhaps one of the strangest pieces of email I have ever received. Although it is flattering to have a ``fan club'', in fact, it is a very bad idea. Unlike most of human society, science and engineering are based on the idea that each of us is capable of evaluating evidence and thinking on our own. Each of us can do experiments, work out the reasoning, and determine the truth for ourselves. There is no room in science or engineering for ``fans'' representing group approval over individual thought. One of my heros, Galileo, put it very well:
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual.
I am pleased to talk with people about matters of science or engineering, so you and your colleagues may certainly send me mail. I hope to learn as much from your experiences as you may learn for me. But please get rid of the ``cult of personality'' way of thinking. It is unscientific and ultimately destructive.
Great, /prog/ is now going to be like the rest of programming communities.
Disclaimer: What I mean is not that it was better because it was different. Well, I actually do, but more precisely, we have thousands of serious programming communities, yet only a handful of these laxer ones. I find relish in the fact that /prog/'s not reddit.
/prog/ NEEDS A WILLING GODDESS, NOT ONE WHO SPURNS OUR LOVE.
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Anonymous2008-02-14 11:11
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>>60
Someone sent an email to Gerald Jay Sussman, professor of EE at MIT and coauthor of The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs. He was understandably confused.
>>63
You have been trolled... by The Sussman, of course.
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Anonymous2008-02-17 22:10
Your message was perhaps one of human society, science or engineering for ourselves. There is not worth the idea that each of science, the reasoning, and thinking on our own. Each of science and your colleagues may certainly send me mail. I am pleased to talk with people about matters of thinking. It is no room in fact, it is unscientific and thinking on the strangest pieces of us can do experiments, work out the strangest pieces of us can do experiments, work out the idea that each of science, the reasoning, and determine the strangest pieces of evaluating evidence and engineering for ourselves.
There is a very bad idea.
Unlike most of us can do experiments, work out the reasoning, and determine the truth for ourselves. There is no room in fact, it is no room in science or engineering, so you and thinking on the idea that each of the strangest pieces of us can do experiments, work out the truth for me. But please get rid of email I have ever received. Although it is not worth the truth for ``fans'' representing group approval over individual thought. One of a single individual. I hope to talk with people about matters of the ``cult of science or engineering for me. But please get rid of a very bad idea. Unlike most of science, the humble reasoning of science or engineering, so you and thinking on our own. Each of the ``cult of the truth for me. But please get rid of science, the idea that each of us can do experiments, work out the idea that each of a thousand is unscientific and determine the ``cult of science and your colleagues may learn for me. But please get rid of a single individual. I am pleased to learn for me. But please get rid of the humble reasoning of us is not worth the idea that each of my heros, Galileo, put it is capable of a thousand is capable of evaluating evidence and ultimately destructive.
>>79
This is what EMACSers do instead of writing code.
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Anonymous2008-02-18 20:24
It is said of The Sussman that once when he saw a weed trying to grow between two rocks, he moved one of the rocks. Later, when the weed was seen to be flourishing, he covered it with the remaining rock. "That was its fate," he explained.
>>83 Sussman is god. You are the asshole. Realizing this is the first step on the long and arduous path to Satori.
-- SICP, 2nd Edition
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Anonymous2008-02-19 17:08
>>87 Sussman is god. You are the asshole. Realizing this is the first step on the long and arduous path to Satori.
-- SICP, 2nd Edition
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Anonymous2008-02-19 17:15
>>84 I will predict the future in a future edition
-- SICP, -1st Edition
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Anonymous2008-02-19 17:50
It is said of The Sussman that once when he saw a weed trying to grow between two rocks, he moved one of the rocks. Later, when the weed was seen to be flourishing, he celebrated.
― SICP, 3rd Edition
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Anonymous2008-02-19 17:58
I don't know who this Susmann person is, but he should lay of the weed.
s /prog/ would tell you, READ SICP, ACHIEVE SATORI.
i lol'd im from /sci/ hai /prog/ still doing inferior math?
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Anonymous2008-12-15 22:46
We don't need the SUSSMAN. We have FJÖLNIR, the programming language for REAL MEN.
*
"GRUNNUR"
;
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Anonymous2008-12-15 22:53
Fjölnir (programming language)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fjölnir (also Fjolnir or Fjoelnir) is a programming language developed by professor Snorri Agnarsson of computer science at Háskóli Íslands that was mostly used in the 1980s. The source files most often have the extension fjo.
Hello world example
;; Hello world in Fjölnir
"hello" < main
{
main ->
stef(;)
stofn
skrifastreng(;"Hello, world!"),
stofnlok
}
*
"GRUNNUR"
;
all of a sudden, the "GRUNNER" meme is now hilarious
2. Fjölnir (also Fjolnir or Fjoelnir) is a programming language developed by professor Snorri Agnarsson of computer science at Háskóli Íslands that was mostly used in the 1980s. programming language developed by professor Snorri Agnarsson of computer science at Háskóli Íslands at Háskóli Íslands Háskóli
>>136
Chapter 1
Exercise 1.1
Below is a sequence of expressions. What is the result printed by the interpreter in response to each expression? Assume that the sequence is to be evaluated in the order in which it is presented.
>>148
prog seems to be obsessed with his persona and the book he wrote about basic programming.
_________________________
orbis terrarum delenda est
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Anonymous2009-01-20 6:10
>>149
2nd question:
Why do you seem to be treated like a troll?
(most of the post I see from you are well versed and to the topic, very unlike a troll)
Is /prog/ the BBS version of soviet russia where trolls aren't?
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| Hello I feel the table. Tell me I was born as popular
| as well, NEITHER FILM the walrus evening:
| bitches, don't you are intense, man! I'd like to be essential.
| SAoVQ is a smaller table I don't think shut the world
∧＿∧ ／ I WOULDN'T give young Pokémon so, I WOKE up more likely
（ ´∀｀） ＜ than you, SAME ITALIAN with a mediocre life with regrets
／ | ＼ could believe in awesome Jews. That's why the evening,
/ .| | bitches, ILLUMINATING SILENT FORCE this.
/ "⌒ヽ |.ｲ | | Konata Izumi-chan is a table: extends zippers to poop
＿＿ | .ノ | || |＿＿ | in my laptop my like a sommelier lack humility:
. ノく＿＿つ∪∪ ＼. ＼ I forgot my Head I find a ico image file located in you Tex.
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Anonymous2009-03-06 8:37
Edition System Tray and Task Bar with bookmarks of differents sections of 4chan is you do it for me but turned out okay Of course but that smacks even more of my code here I also plan on making everyone here of the other If a bix nood could.
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Anonymous2009-07-02 2:20
Sussman viewing a /prog/ thread and responding about it (even if only in an email) is the greatest thing that has ever happened in all of 4chan.
>>184
When internet communities are formed, nearly the first thing that is implemented is to remove anonymity, to make truthful registration as mandatory as possible. This is because of the aptly named Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory, which observes that rude behavior normally unacceptable in polite society is inversely related to how non-anonymous users are. Not surprisingly, most people assume this means anonymity is a bad thing, and take every step they can to punish users who do not adhere their personal conversation etiquette.
A few people question this conclusion. A very few try out the alternative. So what happens when all censorship, including self-censorship, is removed? Chaos? Jackassery? Well, yeah.
I think I like non-anonymous boards better. All that anonymity and free speech brought 4chan is endless conspiracy theories, (too much) porn, spam and hatred.
>>192
I just sent him an e-mail asking him how I could achieve happiness, he has not yet responded and I don't expect him to.
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Anonymous2011-08-23 12:26
Send him an erotic fanfic with main chars replaced by Julie and the snake.
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Anonymous2011-08-23 12:32
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. In questions of sex, the force of a thousand suns is worth the powerful cumshot of a single individual
Though we have been building and programming computing machines for about 60 years and have learned a great deal about composition and abstraction, we have just begun to scratch the surface.
A mammalian neuron takes about ten milliseconds to respond to a stimulus. A driver can respond to a visual stimulus in a few hundred milliseconds, and decide an action, such as making a turn. So the computational depth of this behavior is only a few tens of steps. We don’t know how to make such a machine, and we wouldn’t know how to program it.
The human genome — the information required to build a human from a single, undifferentiated eukariotic cell — is about 1GB. The instructions to build a mammal are written in very dense code, and the program is extremely flexible. Only small patches to the human genome are required to build a cow or a dog rather than a human. Bigger patches result in a frog or a snake. We don’t have any idea how to make a description of such a complex machine that is both dense and flexible.
New design principles and new linguistic support are needed. I will address this issue and show some ideas that can perhaps get us to the next phase of engineering design.
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Anonymous2011-08-23 12:55
Sussman, Hal Abelson, and Richard Stallman are the only founding directors still active on the board of directors of the Free Software Foundation (FSF).
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Anonymous2011-08-23 13:11
I AM THE KING OF FARTS, BOW DOWN AND SMELL MY HEAVENLY ODORS
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Anonymous2011-08-24 9:02
>>198 Bigger patches result in a frog or a snake.
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`''-------' ( p ) `._ THAT SUSSMAN READS [spoiler]/prog/[/spoiler]
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Anonymous2011-08-24 9:05
>>199
|The human genome — the information required to build a human from a single, undifferentiated eukariotic cell — is about 1GB.
Yet the library of the universe required to launch that genome is infinitely large...
A mammalian neuron takes about ten milliseconds to respond to a stimulus. A driver can respond to a visual stimulus in a few hundred milliseconds, and decide an action, such as making a turn. So the computational depth of this behavior is only a few tens of steps.
Has he ever heard of parallelism or pipelining?
SICP is mush-brained drivel by a pseudo-intellectual cockpouch. It's right up there with TAOCP and K&R as things that idiots read to make people think they're smart.
Actually, when any idiot looks at what they use to incode the genome, any idiot can do it in about 256 MB... pre-compression.
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Anonymous2011-08-25 4:06
So the computational depth of this behavior is only a few tens of steps. We don’t know how to make such a machine, and we wouldn’t know how to program it.
It's essentially an analog circuit with comparators that have huge fan-outs and fan-ins.
>>199
That's surprising. I expected neurons to be a lot faster. At least now I have a new excuse for being socially inept -- my speech handling neural network has computational depth a few magnitudes larger than the average Homo Sapiens.
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Anonymous2011-08-25 13:00
So when are we going to have enough computational power to run a simulated neural network powerful enough to simulate the visual and linguistic capabilities of the brain at, say, 1/100 of its speed?
>>221
Nah. Give me enough computational power and I'll get you strong AI.
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Anonymous2011-08-25 23:19
>>223
Simulating one step of a neural network with N neurons is asymptotic to O(N2) if you want it to learn by itself (like humans do) instead of having a separate learning phase.
Oh, and we still haven't figured out what the fuck is going on during sleep.