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Muh Constitution

Name: Ronald Reagan 2013-03-03 0:05

Thomas Jefferson said "Every constitution, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right."

explain why it cannot be rewritten?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-03 13:44

There has to be SOME law enforced if you want to have rights because you have rights, as opposed to having rights because you've got the biggest gun. The latter is actually no different than a dictatorship; those too go by the biggest-guns strategy.

Just remember the anarchistic truism: My freedom ends where yours begins.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 3:05

>>2
my point is that the constitution is not written in stone and can be changed

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 9:05

>>2
My freedom ends where yours begins.
corollary: by limiting others' freedom, you can extend your own.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 10:37

>>4
No, that would be extending your power, not your freedom. You already had freedom and now you are stepping on other people to extend your power.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 17:48

>>3
I a constitution needs to be changed, it's because it's flawed.

The sane view of constitutions, is that it's like the foundation for a house; it's the basis upon which you build the house. Its purpose is to form a stable framework for the rest of the house.
Which is why you set it as right as you can first time, so that it never needs changing.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-04 17:58

>>4
Sounds like a cost-effective way to piss people off.

Actually, the truism is an important thing to remember when building a nation.
For starters; either Hank is free to murder George, or George is free to not be murdered. You can only have one.
And, contrary to painstakingly maintained superstition, choosing to not enforce any choice in the matter is the same as making a choice.

>>6
"If". Stupid typo.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-14 23:21

>>6
But no matter how strong the foundation it will eventually need adjustments and repairs.
Now I'm not saying rewrite the constitution but change it to apply in a modern way.
The right to bear arms takes away the fear of a government ruling by force. But they take away any weapon that could so much as make the fight fair?

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-15 19:19

The Constitution has been revised 27 times.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 11:18

>>9
Not nearly as many times as your mother has been niggerdicked!

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-16 11:54

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 12:35

>>8,9
If a constitution needs revising once or twice a century, it could be down to society changing faster than anticipated.
Need to change it over a dozen times a century, and it's more likely there are design issues.

Constitutions can be compared with operating systems; they can be monolithic monstrosities in need of frequent updates, or they can be minimalistic micro-kernels that only deal with the most important things itself, and delegates the rest to the main law.

Name: Anonymous 2013-03-18 15:54

>>1
This is the letter that he wrote and what he said in its entirety: http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl81.php
explain why it cannot be rewritten?
Or replaced entirely, and there's precedent for that. The Articles of Confederation were the first constitution of the USA, and it had many flaws. The biggest one being that set up a very weak general government which couldn't support the states in their time of most need (see Shays' Rebellion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion) and was eventually replaced by the current Constitution (this is probably where Jefferson got the idea for a law or constitution being replaced every twenty years).

>>6,8
Personally, I would like to go with the way Argentina goes with its constitution, fundamentally it has remained mostly the same since 1853 with reformed revisions every so often (the last being in 1994). Too bad that they didn't drop the Catholicism and go for complete separation of church and state like we did.

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Name: sage 2013-03-28 9:21

>>14-17
tl;dr

Don't change these.
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