Mono-ethnic Countries

Whats wrong with wanting only your ethnicity to be passed on in the generations of that native land?

>>39
he was telling people that believing in the anthropomorphized gods was bullshit.
Yeah! You should ban fairy-tales for using anthropomorphized animals to tell the story.

>>41
And maybe, that will be a revelation, but Santa doesn't exist... sorry, kids :-(

>>27
>But there is an evidence for Sun!
I didn't say that there wasn't evidence for the fucking Sun. You only need to look out of a window to see the Sun. Fuck you for me having to explain that.

>How an "inanimate object" gave you "life"? I fear you're confused.
I'm not the one claiming that the Sun is our "creator", like it fucking waltzed down from the heavens and consciously decided to create all life on this planet. I know actually how the sun works and I don't need to deify it, the same way I don't deify a god damn puddle since water is required for life too.

>Still, it should be respected and recognized as the source of our life
No, it should be recognized for what it factually is. Not as some religious pop star.


>>29
>Albert Einstein was born into a Jewish family
OH WOW, SCIENCE (IN QUOTATION MARKS) IS DISCREDITED BECAUSE EINSTEIN WAS A JEW. I DID NOT SEE THAT ONE COMING.

I could go on but I'm struggling to get the usual entertainment value from this.

>>43
I didn't say that there wasn't evidence for the fucking Sun. You only need to look out of a window to see the Sun. Fuck you for me having to explain that.
Ah ha! You can see my God! But nobody can see your Jewish God, because it doesn't exist, so you Judaism with all its sects is the real Atheism, because it has no God.

I'm not the one claiming that the Sun is our "creator", like it fucking waltzed down from the heavens and consciously decided to create all life on this planet.
Yeah! You were created by green martians, who descended on an UFO saucer. Yay!

No, it should be recognized for what it factually is. Not as some religious pop star.
It should, else its place will be taken by your Judaic religion or some Scientology crap. It would also help inspire nationalism and patriotism - i.e. would help maintaining strong society.

>>44
>But nobody can see your Jewish God, because it doesn't exist, so you Judaism with all its sects is the real Atheism, because it has no God.
I think I'm made it pretty fucking translucent that I don't think highly of any form of institutionalised irrationality. So attempting to get my goat over the fact that I can see the Sun and not Jehovah/God/Allah doesn't really get either of us anywhere since I think it's all nonsense. I'm more than happy to go on the record as saying that I don't think there is any kind of God or mystic beings in existence, whether I can observe our local star or not.

>Yeah! You were created by green martians, who descended on an UFO saucer. Yay!
Science has some near perfect theories on how life began on this planet without invoking little green men or any other kind of whimsical bullshit such as celestial bodies being in any way knowingly involved in our "creation". It is however hilariously hypocritical of you imply that someone else probably holds a crazy theory that isn't support by evidence to be true.

>It would also help inspire nationalism and patriotism - i.e. would help maintaining strong society.
Wow, okay, give me a minute to contemplate the sheer bullshit of the answer to the question I'm about to ask you. How on Earth is state worship of the Sun supposed to inspire the kind of national xenophobia you admire? The suns shines equally on all people, so if anything it should inspire globalism and multi-multiculturalism. In fact, no, you're right. I shouldn't look down on your idea of 'one nation under the Sun'.

>>45
I'm more than happy to go on the record as saying that I don't think there is any kind of God or mystic beings in existence, whether I can observe our local star or not.
But the Sun is the God! And there is nothing mystic about it.

Science has some near perfect theories on how life began on this planet without invoking little green men or any other kind of whimsical bullshit such as celestial bodies being in any way knowingly involved in our "creation".
What is the state of being "knowingly involved"? Are you knowingly involved into this discussion or just react to the visual qualia from your monitor? How do you know, you have "free will" and the world is non-deterministic? How the functioning of your brain fundamentally differs from the functioning of Earth's ecosystem? Could Dinosaur bones be considered as the memory of the Earth?

How on Earth is state worship of the Sun supposed to inspire the kind of national xenophobia you admire?
It cuts off christian influence and points to our ancestry, as farmers who celebrated the Solstice, instead of your "irrational" (tm) christmess.

The suns shines equally on all people,
Except the Jews, who never done any farming.

>>46
And farming supposes, that the nation practices sedentary way of life - i.e. nation is creative, instead of being destructive nomadic, like the Jews and other gypsies do. Such philosophy will perfectly exclude all outsiders and enclose the nation behind "Chinese Wall" from the detrimental outside influence.

>>46
Except the Jews, who never done any farming.
I take it you've never heard of a kibbutz.

>>46
>But the Sun is the God! And there is nothing mystic about it.
You just contradicted yourself. The statement might be a little more credible if you didn't keep mentioning amaterasu, by the way.

>What is the state of being "knowingly involved"?
You are aware of your own involvement in an event or action, I.E. something the sun cannot be.

>Are you knowingly involved into this discussion or just react to the visual qualia from your monitor?
Oh fuck me, do we really have to entertain this pseudo-philosophical bullshit?

>How do you know, you have "free will" and the world is non-deterministic?
Because there is no evidence to suggest that I don't have free will and anyone who seriously takes the position that they are a massive tool should just kill themselves since doing so would just be your "fate".

>How the functioning of your brain fundamentally differs from the functioning of Earth's ecosystem?
You are tripping balls with this one. You do not need me to hold your hand and explain how synapses firing differ from tectonic plates grinding each other something ornery.

>It cuts off christian influence and points to our ancestry, as farmers who celebrated the Solstice
And why the arbitrary hard on for farming? Also, I'm now a Jew, a Christian and an atheist? Please just stick to one, I suggest atheist.

>Except the Jews, who never done any farming.
Okay, ignoring the fact that one doesn't need to farm to be outside in the sun, Jews did farm. Kind of hard to feed yourself just on scavenging.

>Such philosophy will perfectly exclude all outsiders and enclose the nation behind "Chinese Wall" from the detrimental outside influence.
You realize that completely isolating yourself from the outside (and holy shit, good luck surviving without any imports or exports. You can be just like North Korea!) world means no internet, right? The very thing you're using to communicate with and benefit from every day of your life?

>>48
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz#Economics
In the 1970s, kibbutzim frequently hired Arab labourers. Since the 1990s, teams of foreign workers have been brought in, many from Thailand and China.
i.e. it has failed.

>>49

You realize that completely isolating yourself from the outside (and holy shit, good luck surviving without any imports or exports. You can be just like North Korea!) world means no internet, right?
I realize, we should preserve our languages, culture, have control over our country and oppose multinational corporations. Economics should be limited to necessities, like the Internet. And we shouldn't blindly import Christianity, Communism, Liberalism and other -isms. I.e. we should preserve our diversity, because multiculturalism leads to disasters, like Communism and Islam, which engulf whole world.

You just contradicted yourself.
How?

The statement might be a little more credible if you didn't keep mentioning amaterasu, by the way.
Yeah! Santa doesn't exist, it is just a pagan personification of winter! Ban Santa for not being Judaic enough!

Oh fuck me, do we really have to entertain this pseudo-philosophical bullshit?
So, you can't answer? I won? Cool!

Because there is no evidence to suggest that I don't have free will and anyone who seriously takes the position that they are a massive tool should just kill themselves since doing so would just be your "fate".
I won! You have no rights suggesting, that Sun has "no will".

Okay, ignoring the fact that one doesn't need to farm to be outside in the sun, Jews did farm. Kind of hard to feed yourself just on scavenging.
Nope. They just purchased grain and produced alcohol, using other peoples work. Then Jews sold alcohol back to peasants, taking grain as security.

You do not need me to hold your hand and explain how synapses firing differ from tectonic plates grinding each other something ornery.
Both act to achieve the equilibrium.

And why the arbitrary hard on for farming?
Civilization born, when people began farming. It wasn't born from some crazy nomads, invading your country and stealing your property.

Also, I'm now a Jew, a Christian and an atheist? Please just stick to one, I suggest atheist.
A Christian Atheist, who respects Jewish liberalism and multiculturalism?

>>50
>Economics should be limited to necessities, like the Internet.
Sorry, bro. The internet isn't necessary to live and exposes you to foreign influences!

You're only allowed your daily ration of state distributed handful of rice, half a loaf of bread and as much water as you can carry in your hands. Don't like it? Clearly only an evil Jew wouldn't like it! Off to the re-education camp for you.

>we should preserve our diversity
Yes but isolating yourself from all the diversity the world has to offer.

>multiculturalism leads to disasters, like Communism and Islam, which engulf whole world.
Nice hyperbole. We couldn't even have this discussion of either "engulfed the whole world." Islam, while pretty big, doesn't persist everywhere and Communism is not fondly thought upon by the world at large. China is moving away from it and people realize that they would rather be free and North Korea is starving to death, demonstrating how it crumbles naturally over time.

>How?

Because you're ascribing the quality of "God" to the Sun. This is not an observation of the Sun, it is deification. You are giving it mystic qualities and lore. 

>I won! You have no rights suggesting, that Sun has "no will".
Please repeat in English but that sentence makes no sense. I think you might be asking me to prove a negative, though.

>Nope. They just purchased grain and produced alcohol, using other peoples work.
Okay, so, where did the money come from and where did the food they needed to earn it come from before they could buy it?

>Both act to achieve the equilibrium.
A completely arbitrary quality. There are so many other forms of equilibrium that could but don't equate to the Earth or you brain.

>Civilization born, when people began farming.
Am I going to have to say arbitrary again? It's a completely moot point.

>A Christian Atheist
Okay, stop right there. You can't be both. I know this isn't your strong point but think about this for a second. You can't be theist AND atheist. The "a" in atheist denotes a lack of theism. I'll put this in the context of a wikipedia link so you can swallow it better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

>>50
i.e. it has failed.
I suspect that it's because CAFOs and factory farms in general are taking over the agricultural sector in Israel just like they've done in the United States, and communal living isn't as popular as it was in decades past. The whole green/environmental/localism movements may end up rejuvenating the idea of communal living and local farming operations, it certainly has helped family farms around here.

>>51

You're only allowed your daily ration of state distributed handful of rice, half a loaf of bread and as much water as you can carry in your hands. Don't like it? Clearly only an evil Jew wouldn't like it! Off to the re-education camp for you.
Nope. I dislike when Rothschilds do revolution, kill your own leaders, then make you a communist slave in their play against Hitler and U.S. Neither I like when some niggers are on the streets of my city and the Rothschilds run economy. The only thing I love is when my country is strong and Rothschild's tribe finally perishes in Holocaust.

Yes but isolating yourself from all the diversity the world has to offer.
Consider Islamic world - it's big, globalized and has little diversity. Now consider your giant chirstfuckery-mcdonalds-hollywood-jew brainwashed western world - it has even less diversity. Sorry.

Okay, so, where did the money come from and where did the food they needed to earn it come from before they could buy it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resellers - one example

A completely arbitrary quality. There are so many other forms of equilibrium that could but don't equate to the Earth or you brain.
Nope. Single operator NAND is enough to build computer, which will simulate "many other forms of equilibrium".

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinators and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus -- both could be used to prove general theorems, using equilibrium.

Okay, stop right there. You can't be both. I know this isn't your strong point but think about this for a second. You can't be theist AND atheist.
You can, because to be Atheist you need the definition of "God", so you use some concept of a God, and, in our case, you use Judaic/Christian concept. If you've declared, that Sun doesn't exist, then you would be a Pagan Atheist.


Because you're ascribing the quality of "God" to the Sun. This is not an observation of the Sun, it is deification. You are giving it mystic qualities and lore. 
Please, define "mystic qualities" and "deification"
I'm just defining the term "God".


Nice hyperbole. We couldn't even have this discussion of either "engulfed the whole world." Islam, while pretty big, doesn't persist everywhere and Communism is not fondly thought upon by the world at large. China is moving away from it and people realize that they would rather be free and North Korea is starving to death, demonstrating how it crumbles naturally over time.
Communism happened just because of the Jews - even fucking Fidel Castro is Jewish, same of Chinese revolutionaries, who were Jewish or got Jewish/Soviet funding.

>The only thing I love is when my country is strong
And that's the oppose of what you'll get if each country isolates itself off from the others. Seriously, do you have any idea how much your country imports and exports in terms of physical goods alone? No country in the world has all the natural resources on its own land to produce everything it needs. Almost every country buys and sells to other countries, not to mention outsourcing of services and scientific collaboration.

>Consider Islamic world
Let's not because that was never the topic. The very idea of a multi-cultural society is that it consists of multiple interacting cultures, not a single one because then it would be a mono-cultural society which is what you're going to end up with if you isolate yourself off from everyone else. One country interacting with no one has less diversity than many countries all interacting with each other. 1 is less than 100. This is pretty basic stuff.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resellers - one example
Resellers still purchase the goods to begin with.

>Single operator NAND is enough to build computer, which will simulate "many other forms of equilibrium".
No... that's not how it works. You're just playing with words.

>If you've declared, that Sun doesn't exist, then you would be a Pagan Atheist.
You clearly don't understand what the word means, even though I helpfully explained it to you. Atheism is the rejection of ALL Gods, not specific ones.

>Please, define "mystic qualities" and "deification"
I'm not a dictionary. Go read one.

>Communism happened just because of the Jews
Oh hum, what a curve ball. Did not see that one coming etc. etc. Let's entertain this nonsense for a moment though. You're saying that Stalin, Lenin and Chairman Mao were Jewish? I really wonder if you believe there's anyone who ISN'T Jewish.

I really wonder if you believe there's anyone who ISN'T Jewish.
I'm fairly certain that he probably operates under the delusion that he isn't Jewish.

Things seem to have gone quiet on this front in favour of new JEW JEWS JEWS threads. A shame because I wanted to hear what the Russia Jew hater had to say about the idea that all communists are apparently Jews.

>>56
Go be commie in Israel, kill your nationalist president, give us your money and Palestinians - their land - you're an internationalist after all!

>>57
>JEWS JEWS JEWS GO BACK TO ISRAEL JEW JEWS JEWS
Nothing to say? That's what I thought.

>>58
So, why should we tolerate Jews inside our nations?

>>51
North Korea is starving to death
North Korea had food supply from Soviet Union, but when SU was destroyed by the Jews, NK was left without food. NK requested help from Jew-dependent states, but to no avail -- the Jews declared economic blockade, trying to force NK to surrender its independency. It is not that Kim Jong-il was an evil dictator, he have just refused to give the Jews any power over Koreans.

>>60
There's no nigger in NK, they can't be so unhappy.

>>60
>It is not that Kim Jong-il was an evil dictator, he have just refused to give the Jews any power over Koreans.
One might say that he was a little bit... ronery?

>>61
Koreans have to import fertilizers, so if U.S. go default, NK will get another famine. The joy of uncontrolled globalization!

>>59
Oh dear, not this again. How about you ask the question posed to you first?

Do you really believe that everyone communist is a Jew? And is there anyone you don't think is a Jew? I'm seriously interested in who you could possibly name as not being a Jew having insisted that they're everywhere, control all the money in the world and all the scientific endeavours.

>>64
Do you really believe that everyone communist is a Jew?
Read http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm

And is there anyone you don't think is a Jew?
Hitler and Stalin surely weren't. You can see it, because both defended their people interest, instead of Jewry. Japan somewhat controls its economy and employment, but not completely. China was overrun by Rothschilds and other families, but still retains relative control over its economy. Russia and U.S. are 95% Jewish, while USSR after Stalin had much less Jewish influence, than before 1937.

>>65
Belorussia looks nationalistic, but remains under strict Jewish control: Lukashenko, Myasnikovich and Sheiman have Jewish background. Most Belorussian Jews ran away, so it's harder for the Jews to completely control the country.

>>66
They heavily persecute all true nationalistic activities...
The closed corporation “Christian Initiative,” whose actions aimed at creating inter-ethnic strife and consolidating people with anti-Semitic leanings around itself had even been publicly condemned by the exarchs of the Orthodox Church in 2006, has been put under great administrative pressure. Several kiosks belonging to the “Christian Initiative” were closed. The organization was also fined severely for publishing

http://judaism.about.com/od/jewishhumor/f/jewry_ukraine.htm
Ukraine seems to be losing its openly Jewish population, but knowing post-USSR specifics, half of the population should consist of crypto-jews - ones who have privileged positions due to nobody knowing about their jewishness (i.e. only their mother is Jewish).

>>65
>Hitler and Stalin surely weren't.
I remember one of your buddies disagreeing on that point, you might want to go speak to him, assuming it wasn't just you.

>Russia and U.S. are 95% Jewish
This actually makes me feel incredible pity for you. It's likely that you actually believe this to be true. What a fearful, insecure life you must lead believing in an imaginary enemy that makes up the population of two of the largest countries in the world. That's no way to live.

>>66

Where are all the McDonald's, Walmarts, niggers, Pakis, and Arabs in Belarus? If Belarus is an example of "Zionist control" then what's the problem?

What exactly do Norwegians, Swedes, Poles, Hungarians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Latvians, Lithuanians, and so many other groups "owe" black people? They had absolutely nothing to do with colonialism or slavery. What crime did they commit (other than being white) to be punished with hordes of non-white immigrants?

Nationalies have become abstract marks of citizenship and nothing more. According to globalists, all it takes now for someone to ethnically assimilate into an ancient culture is to be born there, and not the heritage of hundreds of generations of men who have worked the land and starved themselves to feed their families and women who have labored generation after generation to birth and nurture their sons and daughters using the soil of their native land. Apparently none of that matters anymore. You can be an ugly emasculated piece of slop slung that just washed up ashore and immediately have the honor of being called the demonym of your host country.

>>72
>Apparently none of that matters anymore.
Because they never did matter. National identity was only ever a means for people to feel that they belong to something they probably don't know anything about while having an exclude and hate others who weren't in your special, national tree club house. Most people are horribly insecure and crave something to belong to that tells them who they are and nationalism is the oldest bad solution to people's fears and ignorance. Because everyone who isn't an idiot (note the clause) knows that there is zero fundamental difference between someone whose family has lived in one country for 20 generations compared to someone who lived there for 2 generations.

Damn, isn't someone going to hate on Jews and/or foreigners in general? It's been, like, a full day without bigotry and racism on /newpol/.

>>73
nationalism is the oldest bad solution to people's fears and ignorance
What, older than religion?

>>74
From me, you'll have to make do with anti-religious bigotry. Maybe some Yankee-bashing thrown in, but only if an exceptionally dumb one shows up.

Oh, and the front page has been down. That may be why it's (been) so quiet.

>>75
No, okay, religion is the worst. Nationalism is the oldest secular solution though.

>>77
Secular as nationalism may be, it does tend to (want to) elevate its Precious Fatherland to outright godhood, and in the process becomes something of an organised religion in its own right, in all but name.

In that respect, nationalism and religion are two worms in the same apple; they're built on pretty much the same ideas, and they both fag up the world in pretty much the same way.

And the cure for both is the same: for people to wake up and call bullshit. Which just fkin ain't gonna happen.

>>78
for people to wake up and call bullshit. Which just fkin ain't gonna happen.
I'd hate to be pessimist, but I agree. It just goes to show that humanity hasn't evolved very much as a species. Sad but true.

>>79
I'd hate to be pessimist, but I agree. It just goes to show that humanity hasn't evolved very much as a species. Sad but true.
Wait for nigger demographic to take over, you will learn what is regression.