He gave us hope and change and all those other tangible things. He deserved it imo.
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Anonymous2009-10-09 21:43
Typical nigger behavior.
Step 1: Attempt to do something.
Step 2: Fail.
Step 3: Collect praise and award for attempting to do anything at all.
That's the thing about being a nigger. You don't have to be successful. People will be impressed that you tried because the majority of your race doesn't.
Achievement unlocked: You are now 1/3 of a white man.
He, and the "movement" around him have given the rest of the world hope that we're(USA) not the monsters that the Bush administration left them believing we are.
It's not about what Obama's done, it's a message from the rest of the world, and we'd better listen. It's time to take off the black hat.
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Anonymous2009-10-25 14:59
A Nation is allways rated by the leader who has been ellected from the people. I dont think anyone thought in europe that there is any intelegent life left in the USA for voting Bush the second administration. Specialy since he fooled all to belive that there is a meaning in the meaningless patriotism that the usa suffer from. Partiotism is the last grain of evil thats left from the last century. Its mainly used for isolating the common people from the other countrys to soly obey the idea that the administration is the only "good force" that can protect you from the other "evil forces". Once you realise that at every country there are mainly the same people like in your country, you will know that there is no reason for war or other aggressiv behavior.
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Anonymous2009-10-25 17:54
>>17
Very true, but don't underestimate patriotism. It's more than just a grain. I've been to many countries, and you see flags waving in every one of them. We all want to be part of something bigger; something more important. Nationalism is the current ideology that uses this desire for evil. Let's make a flag covered with flames and burn all the others.
>>17
No, the real problem is people have strayed too far from the wisdom of the Founding Fathers and Framers of the Constitution.
Having a cheap plastic American flag or romanticized bald eagle that's Made in China on the back of your Dodge pickup truck and saying we're exporting "freedom" and "democracy" to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan is not patriotism — it's a complete mockery and quite disgusting.
The Founders like Thomas Jefferson warned us of entangling alliances and foolhardy foreign policy.
It has quite a lot to do with him. Obama supports being in entangling alliances and continuing the foolhardy forign policy of George W. Bush and his predecessors.
Flag waving patriotic nationalists are awesome, unlike shitty unrealistic ideals like socialism, nationalism actually works and has lifted millions out of tyrannical oppression by foreign imperialists. In fact that's the word you're looking for, not "nationalism",
"imperialism".
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Anonymous2009-10-29 3:51
Flag waving patriotic nationalists are mindless automatons. Trying to separate nationalism and imperialism in this context is sophistry.
Nationalism was an important step, but it's time to move forward. Though it was once an important unifying force, it has become a dangerously divisive philosophy.
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Anonymous2009-10-29 5:07
>>24
does not grasp that there is no substitute for blood-and-soil nationalism for social cohesiveness. It always unites.
Multiculturalism always divides and destroys. History is littered with the gnawed bones of nations that thought that the universe would make an exception for them.
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Anonymous2009-10-29 5:58
>>25
"does not grasp" that it's not an either/or, the 1930's, or even the use of metaphor.
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Anonymous2009-10-29 13:29
"patriotic nationalism" is an oxymoron
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Anonymous2009-10-29 13:46
>>24
I suppose you're one of these people who think those who work in office cubicles are mindless automatons aswell.
Spoiler: Thought occurs in the brain, you can't see it.
Nationalism <=> reactionary xenophobia
Imperialism <=> statist war of aggression
Proletarian internationalism <=> sounds cool, but unworkable in practice
Patriotism <=> acceptable, but got hijacked by nationalists
>>25
>History is littered with the gnawed bones of nations that thought that the universe would make an exception for them.
That's actually pretty poetic.
The truth is though that the most succesful empires have had combinations of multiculturalism and monoculturalism, by allowing cultures to mix for the purpose of yielding a superior superculture you take the best elements from both.
>>The truth is though that the most succesful empires have had combinations of multiculturalism and monoculturalism, by allowing cultures to mix for the purpose of yielding a superior superculture you take the best elements from both.
Could you please cite some examples? Also, how long did these empires last, and what destroyed them?
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Anonymous2009-11-03 16:53
I HATE women. I never had a girlfriend and never will. The only times I got laid was when I paid a woman or promised her something. I'm never going to hold hands with a chick, kiss a girl intimately because we're in love, or any of the other shit that human beings were made to do. I guess that I'm suppose to be happy masturbating every fucking night. I'm a man with sexual urges and can't get with a female. I'm suppose to be alright with that? THERE IS A FUCKING CURSE ON MY LIFE. A CURSE THAT PREVENTS ANY FEMALE FROM LIKING ME. Oh I forgot, I do get interest from fat chicks and I'm not attracted to fat chicks.
I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm going to become the biggest asshole in the world. I tried the whole being considerate thing and it got me nowhere. If people can't handle my newfound harshness, then bring it on. BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
I get happy when I hear about some college slut getting murdered or injured in a hit and run. "oh she was a beautiful and talented girl, how could this happen." I don't know but I'm glad it did.
In short, Obama wins the prize for not being George Bush.
Which says a lot about Bush right there.
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Anonymous2009-11-04 13:00
>>40
The surge worked, we won the war in Iraq. Bush is a hero.
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Anonymous2009-11-04 13:27
>>41
Yeah, and we're gonna collapse just like Rome and the Soviet Union did before us; by running this half-assed empire of ours. I don't call that a win by any means. We still have over half a million service men and woman stationed in over 700 bases around the world; in countries that will probably never lay a finger on us, ever.
Don't forget that Saddam was friends with the U.S. back in the 80s.
>>40
Obama and Bush are one in the same. There's no difference between them. The Nobel "peace" prize is a joke. We're still at war and he receives a medal for "peace"? Please, it's one thing to have Bush intentionally act like a moron on television to fool people into thinking he was really that stupid, but it's another thing entirely to insult my intelligence by having a President who's continuing the war effort to be awarded a "peace" prize.
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Anonymous2009-11-04 14:53
>>40
It says more about the Euro-peons' view of America than it says about either Bush or Obongo, I think.
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Anonymous2009-11-05 15:27
>>42
We're not really an empire, more like we have an interventionist defence policy because pearl harbor taught us the world hates our freedom and will attack us unprovoked unless we actively stop shit going down.
I mean the Japanese declared war on us, despite our military superiority, despite mutual peace agreements and years of delicate diplomacy and they did it because we stopped selling them oil because they were starting wars and torturing and enslaving people in their colonies.
more like we have an interventionist defence[sic] policy
Defense and offense. Also, I agree. That policy is bad.
because pearl harbor taught us the world hates our freedom and will attack us unprovoked unless we actively stop shit going down.
Pearl Harbor was provoked by those very same interventionist policies.
I mean the Japanese declared war on us, despite our military superiority, despite mutual peace agreements and years of delicate diplomacy and they did it because we stopped selling them oil because they were starting wars and torturing and enslaving people in their colonies.
Yep. While we were talking about peace we were raping them at the same time. Words and peace agreements don't mean spit if you're still deliberately messing around in their affairs.
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>Pearl Harbor was provoked by those very same interventionist policies.
Not selling them oil? Oh no, pass the kleenex. I can accept that an interventionist defence policy can be used by certain groups to justify imperialism, the reality though is that such groups usually aren't that powerful and it is a necessary evil because unfortunately isolationism does not stop people from whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.
The utilitarian part of me supports an aggressive neo-con foreign policy.
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Anonymous2009-11-06 13:35
>>44
Yeah sure, America's just so fkin free. And everything it does is bring that freedom to the world. Sure.
Ever tried learning the real reason people don't like America, or are you too busy watching FOX "News"?
Can't you understand it? Not everything America does brings freedom to the world. It's only when the Republican Party is in charge. When Democrats are in charge, it does the exact opposite, hurting America on purpose in the worst possible way.
>>50 When Democrats are in charge, it does the exact opposite, hurting America on purpose in the worst possible way.
How so? By being less complete assholes than the reps?
Troll!
>>48 the reality though is that such groups usually aren't that powerful and it is a necessary evil because unfortunately isolationism does not stop people from whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.
First off, I don't agree with "isolationism". But a non-interventionist foreign policy. That means trade with nations and talk with nations, but not blowing them up when they disagree with you. And that's exactly where
people whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.
comes from.
Second, there were plenty other factors I'm sure that provoked the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor; not selling oil was definitely one of them.
The utilitarian part of me supports an aggressive neo-con foreign policy.
Sad to see that you do. That's the kind of foreign policy that breeds that kind of hatred. And then people wonder why there's attacks (attempted or successful) on U.S. soil.
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Anonymous2009-11-07 0:13
>>52
"Defensive"? How'bout "sick & fkin tired of so many actually assholes actually saying that crap for real"? Sarcasm's only fun when you stand out enough from the real ones that ppl can tell.
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Anonymous2009-11-07 15:08
>>53
Yeah, like the Japanese suicide bombings last week in Los Angeles. Yeah, nuking the little yellow monkeys sure riled them up, and we'll never ever be...
The American false dichotomy of Republican/Democrat is a false consciousness[1]. They have the same masters and their masters' goal is bleeding us dry.
[1] look it up
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Anonymous2009-11-10 22:59
>>59
Or in my words: I've always failed to see how you can get a (real) democracy out of two big, pretend-different blocks (or "parties") and (for all intents and purposes) nothing else.
In most European landscapes, Obama's kinda right-of-centre. To make him look good, put him in office after someone worse. Worked for Clinton, right?