Obongo wins nobel prize for being a nigger

Thoughts?

>>40
The surge worked, we won the war in Iraq. Bush is a hero.

>>41
Yeah, and we're gonna collapse just like Rome and the Soviet Union did before us; by running this half-assed empire of ours. I don't call that a win by any means. We still have over half a million service men and woman stationed in over 700 bases around the world; in countries that will probably never lay a finger on us, ever.

Don't forget that Saddam was friends with the U.S. back in the 80s.

>>40
Obama and Bush are one in the same. There's no difference between them. The Nobel "peace" prize is a joke. We're still at war and he receives a medal for "peace"? Please, it's one thing to have Bush intentionally act like a moron on television to fool people into thinking he was really that stupid, but it's another thing entirely to insult my intelligence by having a President who's continuing the war effort to be awarded a "peace" prize.

>>40
It says more about the Euro-peons' view of America than it says about either Bush or Obongo, I think.

>>42
We're not really an empire, more like we have an interventionist defence policy because pearl harbor taught us the world hates our freedom and will attack us unprovoked unless we actively stop shit going down.

I mean the Japanese declared war on us, despite our military superiority, despite mutual peace agreements and years of delicate diplomacy and they did it because we stopped selling them oil because they were starting wars and torturing and enslaving people in their colonies.

>>44
We're not really an empire

In name, no. In practice, yes.

more like we have an interventionist defence[sic] policy

Defense and offense. Also, I agree. That policy is bad.

because pearl harbor taught us the world hates our freedom and will attack us unprovoked unless we actively stop shit going down.

Pearl Harbor was provoked by those very same interventionist policies.

I mean the Japanese declared war on us, despite our military superiority, despite mutual peace agreements and years of delicate diplomacy and they did it because we stopped selling them oil because they were starting wars and torturing and enslaving people in their colonies.

Yep. While we were talking about peace we were raping them at the same time. Words and peace agreements don't mean spit if you're still deliberately messing around in their affairs.

racism, yay!

victim complex, yay!

>>45
>Pearl Harbor was provoked by those very same interventionist policies.
Not selling them oil? Oh no, pass the kleenex. I can accept that an interventionist defence policy can be used by certain groups to justify imperialism, the reality though is that such groups usually aren't that powerful and it is a necessary evil because unfortunately isolationism does not stop people from whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.

The utilitarian part of me supports an aggressive neo-con foreign policy.

>>44
Yeah sure, America's just so fkin free. And everything it does is bring that freedom to the world. Sure.

Ever tried learning the real reason people don't like America, or are you too busy watching FOX "News"?

>>49

Can't you understand it? Not everything America does brings freedom to the world. It's only when the Republican Party is in charge. When Democrats are in charge, it does the exact opposite, hurting America on purpose in the worst possible way.

>>50
When Democrats are in charge, it does the exact opposite, hurting America on purpose in the worst possible way.
How so? By being less complete assholes than the reps?
Troll!

>>51

Troll!

Sarcasm. Your getting so defensive tells something about you.

>>48
the reality though is that such groups usually aren't that powerful and it is a necessary evil because unfortunately isolationism does not stop people from whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.

First off, I don't agree with "isolationism". But a non-interventionist foreign policy. That means trade with nations and talk with nations, but not blowing them up when they disagree with you. And that's exactly where

people whipping themselves into a frenzy of senseless hate against you.

comes from.

Second, there were plenty other factors I'm sure that provoked the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor; not selling oil was definitely one of them.

The utilitarian part of me supports an aggressive neo-con foreign policy.

Sad to see that you do. That's the kind of foreign policy that breeds that kind of hatred. And then people wonder why there's attacks (attempted or successful) on U.S. soil.

>>52
"Defensive"? How'bout "sick & fkin tired of so many actually assholes actually saying that crap for real"? Sarcasm's only fun when you stand out enough from the real ones that ppl can tell.

>>53
Yeah, like the Japanese suicide bombings last week in Los Angeles.  Yeah, nuking the little yellow monkeys sure riled them up, and we'll never ever be...

...wait a minute.

>>19
The Founders like Thomas Jefferson warned us of entangling alliances and foolhardy foreign policy.
The Founding Breeders warned you of neegrows too.
http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/jefferson/slaves.html#negroes
You tossed your dad under the bus, enjoy your fail nao.

>>20
What does that have to do with Obongo?
See above.

>>56
Yeah, Thomas Jefferson did write that latter to Washington I believe in 1786. In a way, he was right.

>>57
Whoops. Meant to say "letter".

>>54

The American false dichotomy of Republican/Democrat is a false consciousness[1]. They have the same masters and their masters' goal is bleeding us dry.

[1] look it up

>>59
Or in my words: I've always failed to see how you can get a (real) democracy out of two big, pretend-different blocks (or "parties") and (for all intents and purposes) nothing else.

In most European landscapes, Obama's kinda right-of-centre. To make him look good, put him in office after someone worse. Worked for Clinton, right?

>>60
That's because "democracy" is a tool of the elite to control the people. Lrn2 republicanism (not to be confused with the Republican Party).