I was in a counterstrike server the other day... and it had listed in the rules "no racism."
As I look through the list of players, I notice typical stupid names... and then I notice one that read something like this:
~{aZn}-=PriDe=-~
A while later, another person joined whose name read something like this:
~VieT-Pride~
So, heck, I decided I'd make one of my own:
-=White_Pride=-
Seeing my new, changed name, the admin got all testy, and requested that I change my name back, and slayed me once.
Does anyone else see the stupidity in all this?
You can make azn-pride, viet-pride, black-pride, mexican-pride, hell, anything but WHITE-pride, and that's just dandy. But the moment you make a name like WHITE-pride, you are a racist!
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Anonymous2006-06-27 0:25
whine whine whine
bitch bitch bitch
cry cry cry
Lemme ask you something. Are you a faggot? Do you have a tampon string hanging from between your butt cheeks? Because only gay men care about stuff like this and only the most lonely and socially inept queers actually post about it on the internet. Every race has something they have to put with that they don't like. Not everyone is as insecure in themselves to actual post "why can't I do what [insert race] does"?
Seriously, you're pathetic.
Or maybe you're just 12.
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Anonymous2006-06-27 0:26
>>1
Do you believe that white pride should be allowed aswell or do you believe that no one should have racial pride?
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Anonymous2006-06-27 7:10
>>1
That server is racist, here on 4chan we don't accept that kind of behavior. Give us the server name and we will do what we can.
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Anonymous2006-06-27 10:54
>>3
I think his point is that there's an ugly double standard and a racism towards whites that is not often talked about.
The question is whether its okay for anyone to have pride in their race and if he should really be under attack if he's just mimicking everyone else. If he's going to persecuted for what he does then they should be too.
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darktsunami2006-06-27 12:30
white is not a race, but a generalized description of a color, like black pride makes no sense, black is an american term but african pride means a completely different thing, so does dominican pride, but i guess english pride just doesnt roll off the tounge as smoothly as azn pride ;)
It is just that the words "White Pride" sound like if some German were yelling "Hail Hitler". You know, they had their Nazi stuff and you have your KKK stuff and that has placed a kind of taboo/stigma over any white stuff.
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Anonymous2006-06-27 23:03
I think having pride for being born something or somewhere is illogical. You should be proud for being selfless, giving to charity and helping out, things that you actually decided to do out of moral conscience.
I know this christian white boy who runs a charity and spends most of his time persuading inner city youths to see crime and drugs for what they are and to see education and self-determination as a means of success. Apparently he has been to hospital 8 times due to assaults made on him as he focusses on crime ridden areas, but none of this has stopped him and he never talks about pride.
Then there are hoardes of black guys in prison feeling sorry for themselves and yelling thought stopping cliches like "BLACK POWER" and "BLACK PRIDE" and believing that they are somehow helping the same youths that the white boy actually goes out and helps.
Then you have KKK mutts running around going "we should be able to say white pride too!". I say that's hypocritical, they are acting exactly like the bad black people they try to claim represent all black people.
That tells me a lot about people who want to feel proud about doing something, they know they're assholes and since they are assholes they have no problem believing in bullshit that makes them feel better about themselves. They have no reason to be proud of anything, they are disgusting horrible people and the only way they can deserve to feel legitimately proud is if they change.
>>10
It is if it prevents you from committing a crime.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 2:57
>>11
Virtues are not virtuous or not based on things like that. If you are a really selfish person, you won't want to commit petty crimes like that anyway. But this is beside the point...
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Anonymous2006-06-28 3:00
>>9
"That tells me a lot about people who want to feel proud about doing something, they know they're assholes and since they are assholes they have no problem believing in bullshit that makes them feel better about themselves."
What is wrong about being proud of doing something? So long as it is a virtuous activity, what is wrong with it? Virtues are something to be proud of.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 4:00
WHITEY IS ANGRY
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Anonymous2006-06-28 5:51
>>12
Actually crime is the natural state of humanity, if you see a bag full of cash you are going to pick it up, everyone will, the only thing distinguishing between a bag of money on the floor with no consequences and the cash in the till at a liquor store are your virtues. Or of course the shotgun under the counter, but you get the point.
>>13
Being proud for being born black or white is stupid. If you do something charitable you should feel proud.
I'm a rich white male, and i will only associate with other rich white people. black people exist for me to look down upon as they polish my shoes on the street corner.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 9:16
>>1
Dont sitt on your comp and play CS. Go outside yell "white pride" and shoot some niggers there.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 15:47
>>15
Just finding money on the ground, and picking it up, is very different from robbing a bank.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 19:38
Those who complain about internet racism are just as pathetic as those who practice it.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 20:17
>>1
You should've just rationally pointed out the AZN Pride and Viet-Pride thing when you were challenged by the admin instead of doing nothing and crying about it on 4chan.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 21:08
>>18
Due to the person's virtues. Many of people are capable of succesfully robbing banks, getting away with it and living in opulent splendour for the rest of their lives, but they choose not to as they have been morally embued.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 22:04
>>21
And the desire not to act as such based on inner, individual convictions is one of the most selfish things of all.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 22:44
>>22
No, it's selfless because they care about the fact that other people are sentient and we are better off in a crime free world.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 22:50
>>23
No, it's selfish because they don't want to see themSELVES as criminals, robbers, or thugs.
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Anonymous2006-06-28 23:05
>>24
Actually that would be a rational belief and thus part of a different dogma from morality. Therefore a synthetic judgement can only be applied if shared properties exist through a posteriori thought.
Bringing morals to politics has been cause of every stupid law and genocide.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 0:59
>>26
It is reasonable to base your dogmas on their effects, the effect of morality is democracy and thus the opportunity for greater wealth for less risk than that which can be attained through being a selfish minion in a tyranny.
Fuck Pride,Patriotism and Nationalism all together.
Nothing but bullshit comes from it.
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Xel2006-06-29 8:08
>>30 There's no reason to completely denounce loyalty towards something, because sometimes it might help to have the inspiration. I guess many conservatives are a very deterring example, being the dogmatic, fact-abhorring fools that they are/can be.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 10:52
Fuck diversity, muliy culturalism and socialism
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Anonymous2006-06-29 10:59
you're on 4chan...complaining about racism on the internet? GTFOH
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Anonymous2006-06-29 12:50
>>31
Liberals can be just as fact-abhorring as conservatives. It is NOT one sided.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 13:10
>>34
Those who call themselves liberals typically are. Most sane people I have met tend to be libertarians, various anarcho-invidualists(although they got pretty messed up view on politics) and ofcourse handful of those who have lost their appetite with politics and could care less as long as goverment leaves them and their jobs/hobbies alone. Most annoying and insane types I have met have been liberals, nazis, commies & other extreme socialists and christian "democrats".
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Xel2006-06-29 15:39
>>34 The American right is more dogmatic than the left, but recently the border has blurred somewhat. I'd still take the left anyday, but now I'm turning more towards the libertarians. >>35 Much like the left has to endure anti-capitalists, pacifists and anti-americans, the right has to suffer the indignity of protestants, anti-individualists and simple, fucking greedy people. I've started to dislike the socialists more though, which is difficult to not do when you live in Sweden.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 16:06
>>36
Don't forget those in the left who want the U.S. to bend over and let the Bill of Rights get ass raped by the U.N.
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Anonymous2006-06-29 16:12
thats because none of the other ethnicities set up groups devoted to promoting their ethnicity and crushing all others. For example: latin pride is just pride for being latin, i guess. But when you say white pride people take it that you mean to wipe out all other ethicities
After the central, dominant jew problem, NIGGER SHIT-STINK is the next most serious affliction facing Americans today.
WHAT THE IDEAL MULTI-RACIAL STATE NEEDS IS A NIGGER THAT DON'T STINK.
To everyone with uncauterized nasal passages, the analysis below of this pervasive Amerikwan problem will be thorough and compelling. Its conclusions incontrovertible.
If you reside in Amerikwa, especially in big-city Amerikwa, you've surely had occasion to ask yourself this question a thousand times over.
WHY DO NIGGERS SMELL LIKE SHIT?
Why won't nigger shit-stink wash off?
Or, to ask the question theologically: Why would a just God make the nigger smell like a pile of shit?
The religious answer is obvious:
God wants blind people to hate niggers too.
There's also the thoroughly researched and well-known SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION for why niggers stink.
Sweat like a nigger. Stink like a nigger.
SCIENTIFIC BIOLOGICAL FACT: NIGGERS ARE BORN TO STINK. COMPARED TO OTHER RACES, NIGGERS GOT HUGELY OVERSIZED AND HIGHLY OVERACTIVE STINK GLANDS.
This isn't about mere differences though. You're using "differences" to enforce social policy when mankind has pretty much made up it's mind on how to treat each other.
You're just a petty racist, nothing seperates you from the KKK or nazis.
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Anonymous2006-07-10 16:37
Europeans are more diplomatically inclined, Easterners are more mathematically inclined, Africans are more survival inclined, etc.
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Xel2006-07-10 17:57
>>50 Oh yes, different races have different buffs. BECAUSE THIS IS OBLIVION!!!
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Anonymous2006-07-10 23:10
>>49
So you agree that there are differences between races even though this fact may cause some people to wrongly use it to justify discrimination against certain races?
You're using the word "differences" as a place holder for "flaws" or "inferiorities". These percieved flaws or inferiorities suspiciously favor the race that have been known to habitally undermind the potential of other races. These percieved flaws or inferiorities have never been proven to be naturally occuring within any race, but instead more reasonable evidence points to culture. (Environment)
Arguing solely for nature at any point is a complete disregard for what we've already gleaned from science- that nature and nurture work in concert to form a complete person.
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Anonymous2006-07-11 2:52
>>53
The chinese and non-black immigrants from poor countries (mexico, eastern europe, asia) to the US on average score higher on IQ tests than black americans. Therefore the environment is not the only factor. The similiarity in results for different races in similiar environments shows a strong trend with asians scoring the highest and sub-saharran africans the lowest. The nature of averages is such that there are blacks who are more intelligent and capable than asians.
From the facts meritocratic-eugenics would be preferable to anthropological-eugenics.
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Xel2006-07-11 3:09
>>54 'From the facts meritocratic-eugenics would be preferable to anthropological-eugenics.' Don't worry, the American way of life already ruins the lives of those with the wrong beginnings - there is no reason to effectivize this system of exclusion any further via research.
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Anonymous2006-07-11 3:47
<i>The chinese and non-black immigrants from poor countries (mexico, eastern europe, asia) to the US on average score higher on IQ tests than black americans. Therefore the environment is not the only factor.</i>
I'm not talking about "only", this is what you still don't get. I'm talking about "in concert"- when it comes to the human ability to cope in a human environment- it's always a combination. We shouldn't even be having this discussion until you're prepared to fully address the fact that nature and nurture do not work seperate or independant from each other. Ever. These are the most basic of facts, deal with them.
>>55
Exactly. Besides that, don't you imply that we already live in a meritocrat-eugenics society by virtue of the IQ test results(and the importance of those test results) and the precieved (see: subjective) positioning of the races? Guess what: According to you we pretty much already live in a Meritocratic Eugenics society and you know what? It still isn't working.
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Anonymous2006-07-11 14:54
>>55
You show a poor understanding of meritocracy. Meritocracy is the polar opposite of aristocracy in terms of child-rearing and opportunity distribution. However you are right in saying the US is not a meritocracy in this aspect since there is no good approximation for equal opportunity apart from public schooling. Apart from child-rearing, the US is one of the closest countries to providing equal opportunity in the world due to it's extensive economic freedom.
Bear in mind meritocracy does not give people opportunities if they are unqualified as that would be in the same illogical realm as aristocracy. Ideally children would be given 3 square meals a day and educated and tested in various subjects especially critical thought and scientifically determinned what they are good at so they can make a better decisions with what marketable skills they should develop.