All the problems that you hear with prisons like killings and bad influences. Isnt the simple answer be just have all prisoners be in isolation. Don't let them mingle at all. Have them stay in their cells indefinitely.
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Anonymous2005-08-09 16:46
That's called a cubicle.
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Anonymous2005-08-09 21:38
A normal human being needs other people. In isolation, prisoners are known to go crazy and/or commit suicide.
I also don't understand why... exactly... violent criminals are allowed to send ENOUGH mail from prison to prison that they can communicate hits, directions for outside activity, etc. Fuck 'em! Only let them send enough mail that the staff can actually screen (never mind drugs and other shit) before sending it out. OR, if you think this is a bit severe, why not apply the above scheme only to those who have been caught doing exactly that sort of thing? Similarly, why not just limit yard time blocks to 5-10 people at a time, who are neighbors, and rotate it so you only get yard time once every week or two? That seems like plenty. Just fucking read books and work out. Hell, I'd get a lot of reading done.
I'm against the death penalty, and I'm aware of the self fulfilling prophecy of the "prison culture", but I don't see why it's unreasonable to make large (not total) changes in the interests of keeping the peace within the prison system. We make ethical "exceptions" in so many other spheres, that we literally shouldn't care how much communication these people have, except insofar as it brushes against the questions of human rights.
Paradoxically, I see no reason why felons shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Anonymous2005-08-10 2:37
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Its also ironic when you give prisoners access to the internet. Heck if I was in a cell but had internet access I wont complain at all.
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Anonymous2005-08-10 2:57
Hell if i was in prison and had internet, i would keep doing crimes to go there. Free food, dont have to work, and get to stay on the internet 24/7 >_>
Send them to war in Iraq. Not only is prison, but people will care less if you kill your squadmates, kill yourself, or get assraped.
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Anonymous2005-08-11 18:11
Well given that people in isolation would go insane, if prisons implemented massive isolation for all inmates, I guess the sentences should be lowered?
Ie Robbery - 5 years
with isolation - 3 years? Because he suffers more
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Anonymous2005-08-11 18:17
And with heavy crimes like murder....well the death sentence can definitely be scratched off because lifetime or 20 years isolation is already equivalent ot death itself
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Anonymous2005-08-12 8:12
Most people would go insane through isolation. Schizoids (such as myself and, I suspect wuch of 4chan) would be happy with the peace they would have to think, read, and hopefully waste time on the internet (although the latter would interfere destructively with the former)
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Anonymous2005-08-12 14:16
Maybe we should treat prisoners like people who fucked up and not irredemable warts on the ass of humanity. nah, that's too hippy. just fucking weed them out of the gene pool.
most young people like to say that kind of pseudo-conservative thing until they fuck up.
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Anonymous2005-08-15 16:56
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Well it should be given that human beings fuck up once in a while. But I do agree three strikes is really impractical as well.
It should be TWO strikes. I mean what freaking reason does a thief have to do it the second time. He should have learnt his lesson the first time.
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Anonymous2005-08-15 18:48
Prison in America seems pretty ineffective to me. You've got cons, locked up in one place for X amount of time and what do they do? Well it's pretty much business as usual. The continue to deal drugs and run their criminal enterprises from the inside. And while they're waiting to get out they enjoy free room and board, television, sports facilities (letting violent convicts become stronger... what a great idea...)
The US really needs to understand that their are some people who are so fundementally evil (serial killers, rapists, child molestors) that it really would be a boon to society if they were eliminated.
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Anonymous2005-08-15 19:42
three strikes is just stupid. if you are a repeat offender it should be taken into consideration at sentancing. mandatory sentancing is insane, like zero-tolerance rules at schools.
Getting caught should be enough of a deterrent, but our laws are written by pussies.
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Anonymous2009-01-07 1:22
OP obviously has no idea about corrections. Keeping prisoners isolated from one another would not only be extremely difficult but also dangerous. Humans without proper socialization become extremely violent when confronted even in a non threatening way. Keeping the prisoners in their cells all day would increase violence and suicide.
Remember, the goal of corrections is to rehabilitate the prisoner not isolate them!
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Anonymous2009-01-07 6:09
most hardened criminals don't have the education for any honest work at all
so obviously the only viable solution is to lock em up until they earn a phd
and those who already have one need to research a cure for aids/cancer/newfaggotry
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Anonymous2009-01-07 9:36
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You're obviously a frui9ty liberal faggot who's heard and ignored arguments for punishment and deterants before, so I will just point out why your beliefs are contradictory.
What about all those homeless wrecks who need rehabilitation but also have the moral dignity not to commit crime? Why should they be treated worse than violent criminals? If you think we should pay to rehabilitate them aswell, then why should they be treated the same as criminals? You obviously have a very poor understanding of reality if you failed to notice this.
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Anonymous2009-01-08 3:09
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How are the homeless treated worse than inmates? That makes no sense at all.
Homeless people have one thing that really defines the difference between them and inmates...homeless people still have their freedom. They can still walk the streets, sleep in their own bed(or whatever they decide to rest on), and can still socialize with whoever they please(wanted or not).
Additionally, we don't have the resources to rehabilitate the homeless. Our services are already stretched too thin in its current condition.
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Anonymous2009-01-08 9:48
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Convicts get 100% free medical care, paid for by the taxpayer (that's you) for the full length of their sentences, free food, shelter, libraries, free cable TV, and exercise equipment.
Homeless people don't.
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Anonymous2009-01-10 16:05
>>29
If resources are limited why are we giving them to violent criminals instead of homeless who hardly commit any crime?
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Anonymous2009-01-10 20:52
if they locked each prisoner up in their own respective cell and forced them to pick a course, not only would this produce more productive members of society but open up alot of jobs for teachers/tutors.
sounds good to me.
p.s they should lock homeless people up for being homeless...seems like the way to go.
p.p.s if i was homeless i'd just go to prison. duh.