Instead of relying on charisma, why not have Presidents based on intelligence and knowledge? Someone who has a masters or professional degrees, has written papers and books, and is just a really knowledgeable guy? Rather than, um, someone who's not.
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Anonymous2005-04-16 11:48
Because smart people are smart enough to realize that you wouldn't actually want to be president.
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Anonymous2005-04-16 20:00
Why can't we use the power of politics for GOOD instead of EVIL?
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Anonymous2005-04-16 20:22
Why can't we use the power of politics for GOOD instead of EVIL?
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York2005-04-17 1:12
Because politics arises from the collection of individual interests, and a sometimes rational, sometimes irrational assessment of how to deal with those interests. Population creates politics, and selfishness is inevitable. The best that we can do is to control it.
Experience is needed in addition to intelligence. Even though Bush is a dummy, the yearning for a 'philosopher-king' president (which I feel VERY strongly, don't get me wrong) isn't a guarantee of someone who can do the job the way it has to be done. You need either experience in one (usually both) of the houses of Congress or experience at another executive position-State Governor, in order to be taken seriously by the public, and not without reason. there is also a degree of literal truth in what >>2 's joke. Being involved in government from a certain point, in order to interact with the Executive branch and to get a feel for diplomacy and policy, is generally necessary to create the impression of electability. Of course this falls apart when we look at some of the basically dumb shit that people in government say and do. It's depressing, but that's why things are the way they are. I'm skeptical that a college professor would make a good chief executive, and this doesn't even relate to the irrelevant fluff of 'perceived strength'-they simply haven't been in government first hand for long enough to know certain protocol. But, since Bush fucks up protocol and gets away with it, maybe it's not inconceivable that someone cool could come in and fuck shit up for the better. They would have to present a forcefully ethical, detailed plan for how to better America, of course. That's part of why it kind of sucks that Howard Dean imploded his own campaign-he would have lost to Bush by a much wider margin than Kerry did if nominated, but the moral force in his speeches contains a germ for what Democrats need to do-make NEW democrats, and not worry about swaying republicans by gravitating toward them.
As for irrelevant charisma and looks alone, I have to say that barring presidential candidates from television during campaigning has a certain appeal for me.
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Anonymous2005-04-17 1:19
The brightest people (your professors, researchers, writers, etc) can't be bothered. They became like they are through the pursuit of their passion. Why would they go into politics?
"I just finished a series of studies in molecular biology that have determined the chemical folding of specific selenoprotein enzymes may be the key to curing certain types of hepatocellular carcinomas. What should I do now? Oh, I know! Become a politician so my opponents can smear me when they find out I've been fucking a couple of my post-doc lab assistants..."
Which brings us to politicians. Most of them are not stupid - which is why they pander to the masses like they do. If you want better leadership you'll need a more intelligent populace (who give a damn).
Presumably the most qualified individuals from the academy would be professors of Political Science, not hard scientists. These people would have an appraisal of the domestic and international situations, and would have seriously studied governance and legislation up to the present day more closely than even many politicans have done-someone on the outside has the luxury of analysis, not being forced to action unless and until they find themselves in the public office that they they have analyzed so closely, to be informed by history and a thesis for America's best course.
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Anonymous2005-04-17 16:41
Good point. Of course, it'd probably be a step down for them too. Academics are academics and not politicians.
Mind you, having some hard scientists in government wouldn't be a bad thing either. You can't expect a judge to know everything, hence the need for expert witnesses. Likewise with the legislative and executive branches.
Because a depressingly large portion of the population wants a President who they can percieve as being a "regular guy". Unfortunately, a "regular guy" isn't likely to be possessed of staggering intellect. On the contrary, being smart is detrimental to getting voters to think of you as a "regular guy".
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Anonymous2005-04-21 18:59
A smart, can-do guy is a danger to the forces that really control the country
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Anonymous2005-04-23 1:15
>>That's part of why it kind of sucks that Howard Dean imploded his own campaign
More like it kind of sucks that the media convinced everyone that Howard Dean imploded his own campaign.
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The yell was barely perceptable above the roaring crowd. The directional mike he was using didn't register it. The few thousand times the media played the clip without explaining this, while asking pundits to discuss if Dean was like Hitler, among other things, probably didn't help.
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Anonymous2005-05-27 14:23
Jimmy Carter had a PhD, and an IQ over 170. He was one of the biggest hypocrits we've ever had for a president, and accomplished little in his first two years, in his last two, he was viciously anti-communist; and I suspect very few of you would appreciate that.
What's the problem with being against those who want people not to have private properties and life? What's the problem with getting your work's worth and not being able to slack off through your life? What's the problem with hating a political system whose death toll in camps, torture, death penalty, and political persecution, only rivals with its death toll for dying of hunger because eventually everything gets to suck so much people can't even afford to eat? What's the problem with being against a completely flawed failure of a system that sucked everywhere and every time it was used, and has today's worst quality of life? Communism blows, get used to it; I know it's easier to lift your left fist and yell "Rebellion!", "Power to the masses!", "Give me free LSD!", etc., but you gotta grow up someday you know.
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Anonymous2005-05-27 19:50
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Preaching to quire, you misunderstood what I meant.
I meant that "The Internets" probably doesn't appreciate being told that the smartest president the US ever had went pretty conservative.
it's not that he did it; it's that he lied about it. Getting awesome head from fat chicks also becomes my business when it's on my dime.
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Anonymous2005-05-31 5:35
I think it's quite pitiful that they had to resort to what does he hit to damage his image, because they couldn't find real stuff that went really wrong.
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Anonymous2005-05-31 21:51
>>23
Instead of doing anything of significance the government spent its time on something as idiotic as whether the president got his jollies. Wait... how does the president fucking some intern affect my life or how the country runs?
Frankly, I don't give a shit if some idiot in office lies over something so trivial. It's completely irrelevant to my life. How can you possibly justify the whole brouhaha without sounding like some absolute moralistic idiot?
And you're complaining about your money being wasted? That whole political shitshow was a colossal waste of money, not the original romp in office. And since when are presidents not allowed to have sex?
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Anonymous2005-05-31 23:36
I am The Republican! Arrr! I will devour you!
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Anonymous2005-06-01 3:23
Republicans are faggots and Democrats are pansies. Both of them suck.
And it was on your dime because the Republicans were so desperate to nail Clinton with ANYTHING, no matter how trivial and stupid.
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Anonymous2005-06-08 16:20
republicans are all repressed homosexuals. that's why getting a blow job was such a major shocker to them. even though most of the country could have cared fucking less. lieing to congress and the US to start a war of aggression is okay, however.
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Anonymous2005-06-09 4:33
since when are presidents not allowed to have sex?
Since America is so full of puritans it stinks sometimes. That's why war is better than having it sucked, and in TV, violence is ok but sex is zOMG I'm suing the channel.
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Anonymous2005-06-12 0:33
i think martin luther king and some other presidents including kennedy were womanizers too.
and i agree with what everyone said that it was a obivous waste of money and it was nothing more the a scheme to make clinton seem bad after having a good term. the republicans were obivously desperate.
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Anonymous2005-06-13 13:06
BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING NEW WORLD ORDER
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Jim Crowbar2005-06-20 7:42
No, you all fail. The question is: Why isn't Schwarzenegger elected?
"Democracy is flawed because humans are shallow and superficial."
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Anonymous2005-07-03 15:04
"God save the Queen."
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Anonymous2005-07-04 8:46
>>38
I think she's about as safe as she's going to get.
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Anonymous2007-12-30 11:32
bump
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Anonymous2007-12-30 19:18
presidents are now elected based on whether they've got skeletons in their closet. anyone deviating from milquetoast cannot be elected. Thanks to the press and hyper partisan politics our country (the US) is now a pile of shit.
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Anonymous2007-12-30 19:19
>>41
oh, almost forgot - and smart people are the ones who have no taste for the current political climate.
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Anonymous2007-12-30 21:06
Because democracy only works for kikes. Democracy is for retards who enable the kikes and the muds.
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Anonymous2007-12-30 23:17
All of our smartest presidents have been failures. Nixon is considered the most intelligent (in terms of raw brain power) president in history and Theodore Roosevelt was a PH.D and president of Princeton University. Both presidencies ended in complete failure.
Believe it or not--its the qualities we all love to hate that make a great leader. Looks, personality and general charism are traits that have the ability to unite people. Forsight and leadership traits can never be taught and very few are born with them. A leader must have a brain--but beyond a certain point it has very diminishing returns.
Imagin Ed Witten sitting down with China or Isreal and trying to press and agenda--good lord we would be pushed around like a 3rd world nation. Just like in buisness--the most intelligent people in washington will usually take advisory roles--i would bet all my belongings in a simple wager: That The Rock with Aristotle as a political advisor would prove to be a far more successful administration that if the roles were reversed.
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Anonymous2008-01-01 12:07
People who are both smart and have what it takes to be a good politician also wouldn't go anywhere near the office, they're smart enough to not want the job.
Really, everyone criticizes you no matter what, and god help you if you actually fuck up.
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Anonymous2012-12-24 18:08
It bothers me that politicians can lose their job for having straight sex [Clinton, JFK, etc].
But if it's gay sex, the bohemian grove applauds you and your political career is still secure.
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William Henry Draper III2012-12-24 18:47
>>46
What happens in the Bohemian Grove, stays in the Bohemian Grove
I saw a obese tan woman at the store talking in Ebonics on her Iphone about
how she would get more money if she had more kids. Then I looked in her
cart, and it was piled high with organically fed T-Bone Steak, Deli Lobsters,
40oz malt liquor bottles,80 lbs of cubed watermelon and 10 cigarette cartons,
which of course was all paid for by food stamps. Meanwhile, I'm stuck on
Kool-aid and Ramen noodles because I choose to work and provide for myself
instead of leech off of the hard work of others in society.
I'm disappointed that all those Negroes and Hispanics vote liberal so they can
do illegal drugs all day instead of working. Is there any way I can outsource
my work to my asian roommate, whom apparently has a better work ethic
than i by nature, so that i can get in on these drugs and work evasion?
I'll be happy to broker a deal. Manufacturing social constructs like race and
then pitting those groups against each other for my own profit is what I do
best. I'm so glad that God chose that I be born white to solve things.
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Anonymous2013-01-04 18:37
Sorry for my english, the definition of politics itself speak of gain power and mantain it, nothing more and people just love douchebags.
Intelligence is not (only) the capacity of trunk others wills and use it.
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Anonymous2013-01-04 18:38
I almost forget it, thanks for the link richard.
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Anonymous2013-01-16 8:00
>>49
Don't waste money on frivolous luxuries, instead learn to cook so you always eat well every day, sleep early, masturbate every morning after you wake up and exercise at least 3 times a week, you will always feel good, and use your in depth knowledge of your sector of the economy to invest your spare money, spread your investments around and don't blow all your money like a retard.
Learn Chinese, research your career options, get a decent STEM degree, move to Macau, make a few bachelor friends and go on frequent trips to mainland China to find an attractive grateful woman who grew up in poverty and wants rich western white man to sweep her off her feet and take care of her. Sign a prenuptial agreement and study Chinese law to make sure it is airtight. Don't commit any crimes, don't cheat on her, never use violence except in self defense in extreme situations, don't be a douche, treat you wife like a queen, raise your kids, introduce them to sports early, persist in reviewing their education until they are 18 and encourage them to socialize, help your wife accomplish her life dreams if she wants (probably just become a school teacher or something, just don't be a chauvinist).
Don't feel bad about bad things then try to delude yourself by thinking about good things to cheer yourself up. Separate your emotions from your logical thought processes, when you are calm and unemotional use cold hard logic to decide what is best, when you are emotional think about the specific emotions you are feeling and where they are coming from, think about how pointless they are. Try to reinforce positive emotions but never allow emotions, positive or negative, to affect your logic when making important decisions.
I thought the Electoral College was how smart people would bribe their way towards election, even if all of America didn't want to see them or their ideals win the presidency in the first place.
The Civil War was caused by the Electoral College.
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Anonymous2013-02-21 17:27
>>53
It is normal to be lazy, don't delude yourself into thinking you are special just because you do a few things differently.
Because democracy is not about who’s the greatest and wisest, it’s about who’s the most popular and is the best at bullshitting people, and since people are educated by public schools funded by gubamint, for the most part, they think it’s really great and that it’s a duty to vote and encourage their shitty system, the fact that public school is inefficient helps: they can’t question elections, or candidates, they just go and vote like the retards they are.
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Anonymous2013-03-04 3:08
not voting makes you more stupid than those that do. there will never be a party that exactly matches all your views, therefore some sacrifice will always be made. in the current system minority views will never be represented. so you vote for who you hate least.
vote, and pressurize to change the system between votes
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Anonymous2013-03-04 5:16
>>58
Voters do have a certain capacity for reason. You are right though, it is not a case of "people power", democracy has just made it slightly more difficult for the corrupt to push the country in their direction. More luxuries for those in power, more wars, etcetera.