Large Hadron Collider

Now I'm no expert, but first the nerds built a fucking huge machine, right? I mean FUCKing huge.
Then they hook it up to the internet with poor security, for all the hackers and terrorists to tamper with. "Here's your very own city-spanning toy that deals in processes not unsimilar to detonating an H-bomb. Enjoy."
Then among the very first things they wanted to study, is how big bang occured.
Now hold the fuck up.
How the fuck do you go about studying how big bang occured without any proof or results? What are the results? A big bang. Not a contained big bang, because there ain't such a thing as a contained creation of a universe. The only possible result that would count as a success is an actual big bang, meaning bye-bye universe.

...so why are we pissing about with eachothers countries, politics, races and such shit, when we should be focusing on stopping the nerds from deliberately destroying the universe?

You dipweeds are completely stupid.  If the Large Hardon Collider was capable of doing that, then any ol' supernova would have accomplished it by now.  UFAIL!

The end-of-the-universe tests has been postponed until spring 2009.

>>2
No, because the big bang is not a question of mass. Big bang was created out of nothing, remember? Instead the nerds are set to figure out the mechanic behind it, using a technique a supernova lacks.

>>4
Gotta call B.S. on that one, guy.  There's NOTHING Humans can do in their hardon colliders that isn't being accomplished RIGHT NOW across the universe in supernova, neutron stars, and in black holes.

I'll check DA WIKI on that, but I'm fairly sure I'm correct.

In this reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_of_particle_collisions_at_the_Large_Hadron_Collider

... it says:

"A second review of the evidence commissioned by CERN was released in 2008.  {...}  The report concludes that any doomsday scenarios at the LHC are ruled out because the physical conditions and events that will be created in the LHC experiments occur naturally in the universe without hazardous consequences.

So, once again, I'm right, and you're just fucking WRONG, 4chan!

I'm too beautiful to die, 4chan. ;_;

But have those events occurred on Earth before? ;_;

>>4
It couldn't quite be nothing, because to be truly nothing requires having no characteristics.  The ability to birth a universe is a characteristic.

>>8
Doesn't matter.  If these events produced a planet-gobblin' black hole, it would be well able to gobble the remnants of a supernova (notably, the neutron star in the center of the debris cloud).  We just don't see that sort of trend in the catalog of such objects.

The point is that these events are so vanishingly rare and of such infinitesimal effect, that it's perfectly safe to conduct such experiments on Earth.  The point is that there just isn't enough MASS involved in these experiments to make a black hole with enough of a maw and lifespan to actually pose a threat to the planet.  The Collider in question commonly has about a billionth of a gram of mass coursing along the rings.  That's not enough to make ANY black hole of the required size and duration to pose a threat.

And the esoteric matter like "strangelets" wouldn't be in any sort of environment to start converting other matter into itself.  Strangelets require neutron-star pressures in order to persist.

We'd also have to propose that serious scientists don't expect such experiments to have any effect worth worrying about.  After all, they live on the same planet.  If they truly thought there was a risk of letting a matter-eater loose, they'd just be killing themselves.  Hence they wouldn't do it.

Yes, yes, we hear some claptrap about the nuclear tests in the early 1940s, and how it was proposed that the atmosphere could be "set on fire".  Rational minds knew full well that there was no chance of that.  Nuclear reactions just don't have that sort of potency; the atmosphere just isn't structured for propagating a wavefront from an ignition point; and finally, the planet has been subject to cosmic rays, asteroidal impacts, and extreme volcanism.  Obviously, the atmosphere isn't fire-able ... because if it ever was, it would be set aflame in short order from some natural event.

>>6
Yeah, sure, firing a range of subatomic particles happens every day in nature. That's bullshit. Sure, there are SIMILARITIES, but it has always been the differences that has caused the "Whoops!" moments that until now has shown science how little it knows.

You do not fuck with the creation of the universe - it's as simple as that.

...because let's say they DO find out how to cause a big bang - how to cause a chain reaction to blow up the fucking universe. Then in comes some terrorists/hackers/activists/George Bush and steals it and uses it out of some stupid human reason, due to belief/circumstance/politics/brain cancer/technical glitch. I bet the people on Alpha Centauri won't fucking like that.

>>10
The atmosphere is made of air. Air is combustible. With enough heat, you can also separate air particles into plasma, and if this reaction in its turn is statitically exotermic, and hot enough to convert air around it into plasma, you have a chain reaction that will set all air on fire like a match would do to gasoline vapours.

The a-bomb wasn't a matter of rational minds conquering the unknown, because the science by then wasn't advanced enough to even conduct plasma experiments. It was a matter of the biggest testosteron dicks in the states going: "Let's blow shit up! I don't care if the japanese surrenders - I want to blow stuff up, damnit!" They had no clue, but they got lucky. Now this luck has gotten the nerds cocky enough to gamble not the planet, but the entire universe, on "This SHOULDN'T be that different from natural processes put into put into a completely different environment.". They're the limpest cocks around in the world, desperately trying to score recognition, and if you think otherwise, you overestimate the entire human race.

I lost my penis somewhere and I can't seem to find it so I'm just looking everywhere.

>>13
Have you tried looking inside the HLC?

>>14
Wow, I really suck at spelling today. I probably have a fever.

>>15
I've had Pac Man fever for over 25 years.

Haha.  Every time I see this thread title, I think it says Hardon instead of Hadron.

Large Hardon Colitis

ITT nerds who will never get laid.

>>19
"laid", listen to yourself Mr. Disco

>>19
>>20

This thread is serious thread. Who cares if you've gotten laid. Pretty soon there won't be anything left to fuck.

>>12
Thank you for not understanding the physics of the problem.  The reality is that if the atmosphere was that metastable, SOMETHING would have set it all off already.  An asteroid strike.  A volcano.  A lightning strike.  And man's many furnaces and electric arcs.

The basic point is that without FUEL for the atmosphere to oxidize, a burning wavefront can't be sustained.

Why I bother trying to educate you public-school weenies, I'll never know.

Probably because your tiny limp cock is a disappointment at the bath house so you want to try and over compensate

It's funny because 'hardon' is actually slang for an erect penis.  It has little if anything to do with hadrons, which are subatomic particles.

Unless your penis is very very small, then you can say you have a hadron hardon.  That would be hilarious.

>>24
not really

>>25
Yes, really.  Hardons in and of themselves are funny, tiny penises always get a chuckle, and when you add wordplay to the mix with 'Hadron hardon', it's just pure comedy gold.  You can't deny that.

Unless, of course, you're one of those poor unfortunate people with a hadron hardon.  In that case, we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you.

Haha.

>>22
An atomic bomb can not be compared to any naturally occuring phenomena. It's an artifical process. What you're basically saying is that you can't really make t-shirts, because if making t-shirt was possible, we'd find them lying about everywhere in nature. ...or we'd find naturally occuring satellites broadcasting The Earth Channel, spontaneously created during Earths history.

With a plasma chain-reaction, the air would act like the fuel. Normally air doesn't, but the science of that time had no idea of knowing whether air would fuel plasma.

>>27
It's an artificial method of producing a lot of plasma.  Any asteroid strike will do the same, and the planet has been hit many times by such.

How does it feel to be constantly PWND by me?

P.S.  Science at the time had a good understanding of plasma and how it could propagate.  Simply put, there was some suspicion that a nuke would provide a good propagation, but any sane man could see that even a nuke was limited.  It's just the most massive energy release by Humans, ever ... but it DOESN'T mean that such a massive release would set the atmosphere aflame.

You sound like some local yokel from the 1940s, being played by some National Enquirer article.  The laymen and badly-educated are as susceptible then as now about certain forms of emotional hype.

>>28
"there was some suspicion that a nuke would provide a good propagation, but any sane man could see that even a nuke was limited"

Now you're grasping. In the turn of the century even things such as radiation was news. Those involved in the project couldn't calculate the spread (detonation area) of the reaction, which meant they could aproximate its density or pressure, which meant they could only guess at the temperatures involved, what those temperatures would do, and what any plasma would do to the reaction. (A plasma bubble could very well contain the reaction, concentrating the heat into enormous tempratures.) If the resulting temperature would exceed any known temprature was at that point anyones guess, and had nothing to do with sanity.

...so they gambled. With the world at stake, even if some few scientists would have gone insane, you really should listen to them carefully, because in the event that they really are the sane ones, the world ends.

...and why did they gamble? Basically no reason what-so-ever. Japan would surrender in a couple of months, and even if they would have slaughtered everyone in the US, the rest of the world would still survive it.

What happened was that the hairless monkey upstairs asked his subordinate monkeys if they were finished making the bomb, they replied "Yes, you just push this button, but we don't think that it would be such a good...", the hairless monkey upstairs shushed them, took the bomb and left, because if it's something that military brass accounts for, it's lack of intelligence, even for this pathetic spieces.

>>28
>>29
Oh snap! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

OP is a fucking idiot who doesn't understand physics

actually that goes for pretty much everyone who's posted

/thread

>>31
I took high school physics with the world renowned Mr.B and I must say you're all wrong. Seeing as how gravity has a force of 9.8m/sec it only makes sense that my jizz should only travel at 60mph to deliver an effective kill shot regardless of where it hits.

>>32
Is it made of superheated plasma? If so, we need to find you a girl to help contain the eruption so that it doesn't come into contact with air (setting it on fire).

>>33
Stand back, everyone! I'm a skilled engineer chick. I'll contain it. *puts on safety goggles and mounts Anonymous.* I assure you that my vaginal walls will completely and safely contain the entire eruption inside my vagina. Fire in the hole!

*gets pregnant*

The nerds are actually trying to "recreate the conditions of the universe a fraction of a second before Big Bang" happened. How will this NOT destroy the universe???

"Natural occurences" my ass. There are no natural phenomena that accurately mimics all the conditions of what set off the big bang.

This is actually a question of nerd faith: The nerds believe that their god, the Big Bang, is the one and only god, meaning that it can't happen again. This is mere stupidity.

Further, this huge machine is open to all kinds of human error due to construction flaws (that the constructors spotted a LOT of), continuous maintenance requirements, access to the world wide web, the general limitations of the human brain and general nerd herd arrogance.

The nerds are actually the most stupid people on this planet: They dedicate their lives to simplify everything down to theoretic equations, needing numerous trial-and-errors to understand something, but still believing that their calculations are free from practical error. This belief in science is, and will always be, a religion: The belief that what so far has been established is correct. It's just that this religion is continuously rewriting their bibles as soon as a contradiction is made. These are religious nuts trying to blow up the world. Where is George Bush when you actually need him? "Yes, CERN is hiding weapons of mass destruction! They have lots of oil to! Invade! Invade!"

Lol, the OTHER religious nutjobs came up with their own bullshit. They translated the Nostradamus text

"Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
Raypoz will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the earth will show signs."

which tells about a ruler named Raypoz that will be a local threat to any rebels within the local region of Geneva (and this takes place during a war),

into this:

"All should leave Geneva.
Saturn turns from gold to iron.
The contrary positive ray will exterminate everything.
There will be signs in the sky before this."

Contrary positive ray?? This is like saying "God" is short for "German Oil Drought".
Needless to say, AFTER this "positive ray" destroys the different-minded, the war carries on as if Raypoz realy had no effect on anything else.

>>36
"recreate the conditions of the universe a fraction of a second before Big Bang"
Way for the documentary to turn "before" into "after". This has to be one of the greatest misses in history of documentation. Great job.

>>38
...or "after" into "before". That works too. :P

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